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Diprosalic
06-11-2010, 01:58 PM
nadal not looking too good for wimby.

lopez ends nadals:
- winning streak
- grass winning streak
- winning streak against spanish players




:lol: @ all who's saying Lopez will win.

:cool:

samanosuke
06-11-2010, 01:59 PM
:haha::haha::haha: oh poor Rafa even faboys started to beat him :haha::haha::haha:

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 01:59 PM
:sad:

At least Rafa can regroup himself before Wim. Plz concentrate Rafa :sad:

Well done Lopez, you were serving great.

EDIT: Just read Rafa is injured, get well soon Rafa

Shirogane
06-11-2010, 01:59 PM
Great win for LaLo.

SheepleBuster
06-11-2010, 01:59 PM
hahaahahahhahaha. The next GOAT lost to freaking Lopster.

ChuckNorrisFan
06-11-2010, 01:59 PM
Kind of expected

Spaniards bending over for Nadal as always

gaitare
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Player with a game more suited for grass won, yay.

ReturnWinner
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Lol Lalo congrats :) I just watched from 3-3 in the second, some great deep, low slices to break Nadull and some good serves and volleys to serve out the match.

Surcouf
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Most obvious tank of the year.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
hahaahahahhahaha. The next GOAT lost to freaking Lopster.

why so mean?

tyruk14
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Nadal needs to return a little better in a couple of weeks, but a solid effort on serve from Lopez.

madmax
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Nadull losing to one of his bitches:haha: Awesome stuff:banana:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Lopez has saved Queens now :D :yeah:

Go on and win it, Feli!! :yeah:

oranges
06-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Apocalypse in nigh, Lalo pulled it off :eek:

Surcouf
06-11-2010, 02:01 PM
Nadal tanked, it was just too obvious.

SheepleBuster
06-11-2010, 02:01 PM
Oh and why the sad face. I am still astounded that in 21st century, people refuse to live their own lives, and instead of focusing on their own stuff they encourage others to keep it together. It's really something. Maybe if we all concentrated on our lives and families and things going on around us, it'd be better for all of us?

tyruk14
06-11-2010, 02:01 PM
Fish has saved Queens now :D :yeah:

Go on and win it, Feli!! :yeah:

Fixed.

JolánGagó
06-11-2010, 02:02 PM
Expected tank :yeah:

Rafito gotta recover from his sore ass before wimby.

Wilanderer
06-11-2010, 02:02 PM
Who the hell is :( Lopez ?

Voo de Mar
06-11-2010, 02:02 PM
:worship: Lopez isn't a mug like Verdasco and Almagro, has already beaten Nadal twice :p ;)

The most sensational Queens Club since 1998 when in the semifinals were S.Draper, Woodforde, Tieleman and B.Black... Lopez plays the winner of Llodra-Fish match - an offensive player in the final is guaranteed :yeah:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:02 PM
Fixed.
I like how you tards bring up Murray or someone who has beaten him to annoy me :yeah:

Keep it up, you're doing great :D

Johnny Groove
06-11-2010, 02:02 PM
Lopez was too good :hatoff:

We now return you to your regularly scheduled MTF Nadal hater wankfest.

Har-Tru
06-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Good stuff Feli.

Nadal was touching his right knee.

Haelfix
06-11-2010, 02:04 PM
Rafa didn't play a bad match. He was dominate from the baseline more or less.
He just never got a read on Lopez's first serve, and didn't get many returns in a competitive position. Further he didn't get enough free points on his own serve and a few errors (and a double) cost him the breaks.

Feli got the rest of his points on S/V which was smart b/c he was getting killed on the baseline.

ImmzB
06-11-2010, 02:04 PM
You have 2 give credit 2 F.Lopez.

But Rafa will be back for Wimbledon!

ufiors
06-11-2010, 02:04 PM
C'MON ROGER!!! YOU'RE STILL THE ONE

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
nadal = clay court specialist!

last non-clay title win........indian wells 2009.

13 months!!!!!



nadal should skip all grass and hard tournaments, he is pathetic!

losing to lopez is the ultimate humiliation.

this guy is not worthy of the world number 1 ranking, federer was right, nadal cannot handle the pressure of the number 1 ranking!

retire nadal!

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
Thank heavens! Now hopefully the :bigcry: the Spaniards always bend over brigade will finally stfu.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
Nadal was touching his right knee.

Really?

peribsen
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
So happy for Lalo!! Wonder what they'll say now about Spaniards bending over...
But all the top guys (bar Fed) out before SF? Is it only coincidence?
This wouldn´t be a tank, but a whole blitzkrieg of Panzers!!!

Diprosalic
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
Good stuff Feli.

Nadal was touching his right knee.

of course he did. everybody knows that only an injured nadal can loose.

tyruk14
06-11-2010, 02:05 PM
I like how you tards bring up Murray or someone who has beaten him to annoy me :yeah:

Keep it up, you're doing great :D

Tard? Coming from he who has a massive picture of Murray in his sig. with that foghorn of a mouth gaping open? Yeah, very intelligent. And I dislike Nadal, but I despise Murray. If that makes me a tard, so be it. It's better than being a turd.

federernadalfan
06-11-2010, 02:06 PM
this was a tank
he missed too easy of a overhead on the tiebreak that he would normally make 99 out of 100 times

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 02:06 PM
nadal = clay court specialist!

last non-clay title win........indian wells 2009.

13 months!!!!!



nadal should skip all grass and hard tournaments, he is pathetic!

losing to lopez is the ultimate humiliation.

this guy is not worthy of the world number 1 ranking, federer was right, nadal cannot handle the pressure of the number 1 ranking!

retire nadal!

Whats wrong with you, he just lost a match dont be so dramatic

superslam77
06-11-2010, 02:06 PM
Oh and why the sad face. I am still astounded that in 21st century, people refuse to live their own lives, and instead of focusing on their own stuff they encourage others to keep it together. It's really something. Maybe if we all concentrated on our lives and families and things going on around us, it'd be better for all of us?

go tell these fangirls :bigclap: it is all defensive playing that works on clay.

Like that sad fangirl and all those fat girls crying near the end :rolleyes:

Fangirls Rafa ain't gonna be your boyfriend!!! deal with it!

malisha
06-11-2010, 02:07 PM
gotta love this knee jerk reactions in every fucking thread these days :haha:

Nadal,Murray,Roddick and Cilic will all be just fine for Wimbeldon


good win for Lalo though

Art&Soul
06-11-2010, 02:07 PM
:haha::haha: Good for the game, well done Lalo, beat Nadull in straight sets :yeah: and lets the excuses begin...

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 02:08 PM
C'MON ROGER!!! YOU'RE STILL THE ONE

No he is no2 and Rafa has no points to defend in Wim :wavey:

Any way VAMOS RAFA PLEASE REGROUP AND PLAY BETTER PLEASEEEEE VAMOOOOOS

gin lemon
06-11-2010, 02:08 PM
Rafa can now go to Mallorca for a well deserved rest and come back fit and healthy for Wimbledon

Har-Tru
06-11-2010, 02:09 PM
Really?

Yes, and putting a bad face.

of course he did. everybody knows that only an injured nadal can loose.

I was merely stating a fact.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:09 PM
Tard? Coming from he who has a massive picture of Murray in his sig. with that foghorn of a mouth gaping open? Yeah, very intelligent. And I dislike Nadal, but I despise Murray. If that makes me a tard, so be it. It's better than being a turd.
You make me laugh :lol:

I am a Murraytard, but I'm not the subject at hand. You dislike Nadull? Okay, then you're a hater then. Better than being a tard, huh? :D

Oh the hate you give Murray really makes me laugh, keep it up, it's entertaining :yeah:

osalsyst
06-11-2010, 02:10 PM
The whole time I kept thinking "How the hell is Lopez is winning here?" Nadal seemed to be firing winners at will some of the time. Seemed like all Feli was doing was serving. Except at the end, once the rally started it, it was all Nadal. Great win for him! He should win the tournament now.

tektonac
06-11-2010, 02:10 PM
not an upset.

FedFan
06-11-2010, 02:10 PM
Expected tank :yeah:

Rafito gotta recover from his sore ass before wimby.

Now that the clay court season is over he will have more and more a sore ass. And don't forget his knees. :sad:

By the way, when was the last time Rafito has won on an other court than clay?

Noleta
06-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Well done Lalo:yeah:Rafa needs some time off before wimby:hug:

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Am surprised. Watched until 3-3 in the breaker, when the BBC's stream had a spazz, & my impression was Nadal had chances in pretty much every Lopez service game. Still, the result is good for tennis - NOT because Nadal lost, but because a player with a traditional grass-court game won - so I'm not complaining.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Very impressive from Feli! I thought he had a chance, and he obviously knew it too. He kept a high intensity level throughout the match and stayed aggressive, and capitalized on Rafa's many mistakes.

As for Rafa, not a great week in terms of play quality, but what's most important is he got some matches in. Now he needs to rest up a bit, but he's clearly looking quite jaded.

I think Feliciano will win the title now.

dombrfc
06-11-2010, 02:13 PM
I assume he wasnt fit? :P

Get in Feli! No spanish bitches here

Pirata.
06-11-2010, 02:13 PM
Vamos Feli! :bounce:

Still, the result is good for tennis - NOT because Nadal lost, but because a player with a traditional grass-court game won - so I'm not complaining.

This, always good for the game.

christallh24
06-11-2010, 02:13 PM
Awww, he lost. Poor Rafa. No doubt this means he has no chance at Wimbly. :rolleyes: Go home, Rafa. Get some much deserved rest. It was a good time to lose, this being the first day of World Cup and all.

Forewarning. The next time Rafa beats a fellow Spaniard...and badly, I'm going to bring this thread up.

SheepleBuster
06-11-2010, 02:14 PM
I am no Rafa fan but the guy lost a freaking match. No big deal. At least he wasn't crying like Murray. haha. I mean losing to a guy named Fish. What can be more embarrassing?

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:14 PM
Everyone, this is a tune up event before Wimbledon, the man just came off of winning the French Open. You can't expect the world from him. He'll be fine, as will all of the other players (outside of Nole) who were upset this week. Let's not act as if the world is going to end because of Rafa losing in this 250 event.

Another RogFan
06-11-2010, 02:14 PM
No he is no2 and Rafa has no points to defend in Wim :wavey:

Any way VAMOS RAFA PLEASE REGROUP AND PLAY BETTER PLEASEEEEE VAMOOOOOS

Following "Everko" and "Start da Game" steps. Vamos!:cool:

djb84xi
06-11-2010, 02:14 PM
That was the worst Rafa's played all year long. Why didn't he take a hint and skip this event to get more rest for Wimbledon after the French? To me this was a bit of a dumb move and he paid the price for it. However it doesn't excuse the fact that he played awful and his opponent played well. I'll give credit where it's certainly due, Lopez played a smart match and deserved the win 100%. This was a rare moment where Rafa loses to a fellow Spaniard, considering the fact he normally wins against all of them.

I won't use this as an indicator of what will happen at Wimbledon, but it is a sign that Nadal needs to do some serious tweaking to his game, if he plans to do well at Wimby and for the rest of the year. He knows now that the BS he just threw at Lopez, damn sure ain't gonna cut it at a slam, so it would be wise to cut out all the silly errors and play smarter tennis.

Congrats, Feliciano! Maybe now, you'll show a bit more potential.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:15 PM
I like how you tards bring up Murray or someone who has beaten him to annoy me :yeah:

Keep it up, you're doing great :D
Like how you do with pretty much all other players? Seems you dish it out but can't take it.

Persimmon
06-11-2010, 02:15 PM
Expected.

Now Feli will repay Rafa in the locker room.:aplot:

kindling
06-11-2010, 02:16 PM
Thank God!!! Feli can be so up and down, glad this was an up day.

Har-Tru
06-11-2010, 02:16 PM
LaLo pulling a Joslyn James.

Har-Tru
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Nadal didn't play that bad?

He played much worse against Istomin, it's just LaLo is an excellent grass courter who served very well.

paseo
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
WTH?! Man, I've been a joke at predicting these last few months.
Anyway, the Queens tournament director must feel a bit upset by these upsets.

Drugs Ruin Lives
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
Stop losing to mugs Nadal.

You're almost as bad as Olderer.

Mjau!
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
Feli! :woohoo::bowdown: Now go for the title champ! :yeah:


Rafa's off clay status still a question mark. Wimbledon will be the litmus test. :unsure:

AsGoodAsNew
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
It's a disgrace that Nadal is the World No 1. It's not his fault, it's the ranking system, but he can weep himself out of Wimbledon while pretending to touch his knee in pain, Roger can turn up and win and STILL isn't number 1. It really doesn't do the game any justice. Everyone knows now that Roger is the real number 1. Roger's clay results are far better than Nadal's grass and hard court results.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:17 PM
nadal = clay court specialist!

last non-clay title win........indian wells 2009.

13 months!!!!!



nadal should skip all grass and hard tournaments, he is pathetic!

losing to lopez is the ultimate humiliation.

this guy is not worthy of the world number 1 ranking, federer was right, nadal cannot handle the pressure of the number 1 ranking!

retire nadal!

Wow, you have definitely quickly made your way up the crazy hater list :help:

djb84xi
06-11-2010, 02:18 PM
Everyone, this is a tune up event before Wimbledon, the man just came off of winning the French Open. You can't expect the world from him. He'll be fine, as will all of the other players (outside of Nole) who were upset this week. Let's not act as if the world is going to end because of Rafa losing in this 250 event.

Hey, you're totally right about this. I do think he should've skipped Queens, but what's done is done now. There obviously has to be some improvements made and the awkward errors have to stop, if he is to do well at Wimbledon. Hopefully he'll correct himself and do better.

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 02:18 PM
That was the worst Rafa's played all year long. Why didn't he take a hint and skip this event to get more rest for Wimbledon after the French? To me this was a bit of a dumb move and he paid the price for it.
Congrats, Feliciano! Maybe now, you'll show a bit more potential.

Don't be silly, he hadn't played any match on grass in two years bar an exho last year, so you really just expect him to skip out and just enter a slam?? Makes no sense. Anyways he's playing doubles too, so the extra match should do him good.

Persimmon
06-11-2010, 02:18 PM
Now that the clay court season is over he will have more and more a sore ass. And don't forget his knees. :sad:

By the way, when was the last time Rafito has won on an other court than clay?

IW 2009?:o

ZaZoo)
06-11-2010, 02:19 PM
MTF Nadaltards standards:

Roddick, Djoko, Murray loses from nobody >> poor form

Nadal loses from nobody >> obvious tank



Gotta love it.

acionescu
06-11-2010, 02:19 PM
Great for LaLo :bounce:

Rafa, go rest yourself a little, you deserve it :hug:

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 02:19 PM
Roger's clay results are far better than Nadal's grass and hard court results.

Not in the last 12 months, though.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:20 PM
It's a disgrace that Nadal is the World No 1. It's not his fault, it's the ranking system, but he can weep himself out of Wimbledon while pretending to touch his knee in pain, Roger can turn up and win and STILL isn't number 1. It really doesn't do the game any justice. Everyone knows now that Roger is the real number 1. Roger's clay results are far better than Nadal's grass and hard court results.

No, they aren't FAR better at all. Rafa lost in the SF in Miami and Indian Wells in his return from injury. He was injured in Australia. He made all SFs and QFs at the end of the year last year on hard courts in his return from injury last season. Rafa hasn't even played on grass since 2008.

Their results are about even on the surfaces. Doesn't do the game justice? Oh please, Roger isn't the real #1 as the ranking show that, simple as that. He doesn't have the results to be #1, sorry, time to deal with that reality.

He definitely is the best when he's on, but that just doesn't cut the mustard as an excuse. Stop being bitter.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Like how you do with pretty much all other players? Seems you dish it out but can't take it.
I can take it, what am I doing? I've taken it for the past year and a half. But then again, you've only been here 6 months or so, so you wouldn't know :D

I give it and take it, deal with it.

Vida
06-11-2010, 02:21 PM
didnt see this one coming.
lopez :yeah:

this wont bother nadal at all I think.

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 02:22 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Nadal didn't play that bad?

He played much worse against Istomin, it's just LaLo is an excellent grass courter who served very well.

Nah, you're not alone, thickness just comes naturally to some people. Impressed with his groundies and some of the winners he hit, could have returned better, but that would take credit away from Lopez who served well.

Corey Feldman
06-11-2010, 02:22 PM
top 5 seeds at Queens all obliterated in 24 hours

BOL Llodra now

Aaric
06-11-2010, 02:23 PM
Nadal is so stupid playing this event :rolleyes: He´ll never learn

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:23 PM
MTF Nadaltards standards:

Roddick, Djoko, Murray loses from nobody >> poor form

Nadal loses from nobody >> obvious tank



Gotta love it.

Djokovic and Murray are in poor form, though. Rafa just came off from winning the French and hasn't played a grass match in 2 years. I mean, I know you are going to start masturbating over this loss because it excites you so much and allows you to justify your irrational hate for him, but it's not a big deal, not for him or Roddick especially. It's a 250 tune up event for the big show at Wimbledon.

But I what I do love is seeing how people are putting so much more into this than what it really is. Sad, sad, bitter haters. But much better comedy than any TV show :D

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:24 PM
didnt see this one coming.
lopez :yeah:

this wont bother nadal at all I think.
Of course it won't, as long as he keeps the idea that he was injured and tired in his head and that's why he lost, then he'll be fine for Wimby :yeah:

MrChopin
06-11-2010, 02:25 PM
Uncle Toni will make sure Lopez regrets this for a long time.

Ales_Alessandra
06-11-2010, 02:26 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
get some rest for Wimbly now Rafa! :devil:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:26 PM
Djokovic and Murray are in poor form, though. Rafa just came off from winning the French and hasn't played a grass match in 2 years. I mean, I know you are going to start masturbating over this loss because it excites you so much and allows you to justify your irrational hate for him, but it's not a big deal, not for him or Roddick especially. It's a 250 tune up event for the big show at Wimbledon.

But I what I do love is seeing how people are putting so much more into this than what it really is. Sad, sad, bitter haters. But much better comedy than any TV show :D
You're becoming a class A Rafatard :yeah:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:27 PM
Hey, you're totally right about this. I do think he should've skipped Queens, but what's done is done now. There obviously has to be some improvements made and the awkward errors have to stop, if he is to do well at Wimbledon. Hopefully he'll correct himself and do better.

He will take a few days to rest and then he will probably look back at his performances here, and take the positives and grow from them. His mentality to be aggressive is good but his execution was poor the last 2 matches, as well as his return game. If he skipped Queens, he would have no preparation on grass before Wimbledon. It's good he got some matches in just to get some type of a feel on the surface. He'll be fine, a lot like how Roger lost in Estoril and eventually made the final in Madrid, it's best to work out the kinks now, get the bad play out the way, and get ready to rock and roll at Wimbledon.

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 02:28 PM
Can't understand why people are saying it was a mistake for Nadal to play here. He could probably do with some matches on grass in preparation for Wimbledon, having not played in a real match for 2 years.

The Pro
06-11-2010, 02:28 PM
Lalo didn't win.

Nadal bent over for himself. :cool: ]:drool:

alter ego
06-11-2010, 02:28 PM
MTF Nadaltards standards:

Roddick, Djoko, Murray loses from nobody >> poor form

Nadal loses from nobody >> obvious tank



Gotta love it.

Actually it's a lot worse. After the match against Daniel they were like " look at Rafa! he hasn't played on grass in 2 years but he has the same form as 2008". After Istomin: "great win, it's not a problem he didn't play well, in 2008 he lost some sets in the first rounds but went on to win Queens &Wimbly". After Lopez :" obvious tank, good thinking now he has more time to prepare for Wimbledon" .

Corey Feldman
06-11-2010, 02:30 PM
credit F.lo you supermodel

if that had been Almagro serving it out, Nadal would still have won

Uncle Toni will make sure Lopez regrets this for a long time.Lopez will suddenly find Karlovic, Isner and Gulbis in his draw at Wimbledon

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:30 PM
You're becoming a class A Rafatard :yeah:

No, more like common sense. I said this yesterday, the result in this tournament for the top players is secondary. Their goal is to get matches and work on their games on the surface. Rafa hasn't played on grass in 2 years, so you have to expect rust, and he just came off of winning the French, so you have to expect some fatigue. It is what it is, everyone has their bad days, but it's good he, along with Roddick, got theirs out the way now instead of at Wimbledon.

Unlike your man and Djokovic, Rafa and A-Rod have actually proven that they have good form or can put in good winning performances consistently.

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 02:32 PM
Can't understand why people are saying it was a mistake for Nadal to play here. He could probably do with some matches on grass in preparation for Wimbledon, having not played in a real match for 2 years.

Who needs practice? players can just turn up and magically adapt to any surface, didn't you know? After Wimbledon, I advice Nadal to just take a 2 month break and not even play till the USO.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:33 PM
No, more like common sense. I said this yesterday, the result in this tournament for the top players is secondary. Their goal is to get matches and work on their games on the surface. Rafa hasn't played on grass in 2 years, so you have to expect rust, and he just came off of winning the French, so you have to expect some fatigue. It is what it is, everyone has their bad days, but it's good he, along with Roddick, got theirs out the way now instead of at Wimbledon.

Unlike your man and Djokovic, Rafa and A-Rod have actually proven that they have good form or can put in good winning performances consistently.
You're a class A-Rafatard, common sense or not :shrug:

And Murray can put in consistent performances ;)

Mjau!
06-11-2010, 02:33 PM
Most obvious tank of the year.

How dare you accuse Nadal of tanking!? :( Rafa wouldn't do that. He always fights!

malisha
06-11-2010, 02:33 PM
Lopez will suddenly find Karlovic, Isner and Gulbis in his draw at Wimbledon

or Karol Beck

ZaZoo)
06-11-2010, 02:34 PM
Djokovic and Murray are in poor form, though. Rafa just came off from winning the French and hasn't played a grass match in 2 years. I mean, I know you are going to start masturbating over this loss because it excites you so much and allows you to justify your irrational hate for him, but it's not a big deal, not for him or Roddick especially. It's a 250 tune up event for the big show at Wimbledon.

But I what I do love is seeing how people are putting so much more into this than what it really is. Sad, sad, bitter haters. But much better comedy than any TV show :D

They are ALL in shit form, Nadal won RG beacause he's the best on clay by default, his draw was funny as well. (Same way Fed won his AO this year by default, no contenders, poor form this year by everyone),

my point is what this guy just said:

Actually it's a lot worse. After the match against Daniel they were like " look at Rafa! he hasn't played on grass in 2 years but he has the same form as 2008". After Istomin: "great win, it's not a problem he didn't play well, in 2008 he lost some sets in the first rounds but went on to win Queens &Wimbly". After Lopez :" obvious tank, good thinking now he has more time to prepare for Wimbledon" .

:rolleyes: :worship:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:35 PM
I can take it, what am I doing? I've taken it for the past year and a half. But then again, you've only been here 6 months or so, so you wouldn't know :D

I give it and take it, deal with it.
You don't take it well, though. You make excuses for Murray, and the reason why people call out Murray is because you pretty much call everyone else a tard, yet you don't seem to understand that's exactly what you are, and much worse. And on top of that, you are a petty hater also. So you are sort of an immature hypocrite.

Nadal loses here, whatever, it isn't that big of a deal to me, it's a 250 event. When Murray loses, you still find a way to make an excuse for him and say he's going to dominate such and such player and generally act delusional, like he's in good form or something. Basically, get real man.

malisha
06-11-2010, 02:37 PM
Actually it's a lot worse. After the match against Daniel they were like " look at Rafa! he hasn't played on grass in 2 years but he has the same form as 2008". After Istomin: "great win, it's not a problem he didn't play well, in 2008 he lost some sets in the first rounds but went on to win Queens &Wimbly". After Lopez :" obvious tank, good thinking now he has more time to prepare for Wimbledon" .

mate you need to realize that there are Nadal fans in here who are just clueless and only fanboys

there are many on the other hand who actually understand the game and they were not posting bullshit like that

Johnny Groove
06-11-2010, 02:37 PM
And Murray can put in consistent performances ;)

Consistently shitty, yeah.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:38 PM
They are ALL in shit form, Nadal won RG beacause he's the best on clay by default, his draw was funny as well. (Same way Fed won his AO this year by default, no contenders, poor form this year by everyone),

my point is what this guy just said:



:rolleyes: :worship:

Rafa isn't in bad form, he played well vs. Daniel, he showed flashes in these past 2 matches on decent form. A-Rod was one of the best 2 oe 3 hard court players throughout the early part of the year. He's still the #2 player on grass, regardless of the loss yesterday.

Nole is not in good form. Murray is not in good form. You are grasping for straws in trying to connect Rafa and Roddick to your man, but they are way ahead of him. You want to make this loss seem like a big deal, but it simply isn't.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:39 PM
You're a class A-Rafatard, common sense or not :shrug:

And Murray can put in consistent performances ;)

He has not put in the consistent performances since Australian Open. Which is where it is ridiculous you would have anything to say about any other player when your own player is not playing well.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:40 PM
You don't take it well, though. You make excuses for Murray, and the reason why people call out Murray is because you pretty much call everyone else a tard, yet you don't seem to understand that's exactly what you are, and much worse. And on top of that, you are a petty hater also. So you are sort of an immature hypocrite.

Nadal loses here, whatever, it isn't that big of a deal to me, it's a 250 event. When Murray loses, you still find a way to make an excuse for him and say he's going to dominate such and such player and generally act delusional, like he's in good form or something. Basically, get real man.

I do take it well, though, that's the thing. I hardly ever make excuses for Murray, I just say bad play by him, and good from his opponent. I understand completely that I am a tard. Since when haver I said "I am not a tard"? Never, so stop making up stuff ;)

I am a hater too, and I don't care if you think that's immature or not :shrug: Atleast I'm not arrogant like you, and think highly of myself and have my head up my own arse and think that I am above everyone else when clearly you're not and you aren't any better than anybody on here :)
When Nadull loses, tonnes and tonnes or people on the baord say it's from fatigue, which is bullcrap. When Murray loses I am disappointed and say that he was playing bad, but not all the time.
Basically, get a clue about me before making statements, man :)

malisha
06-11-2010, 02:40 PM
played well against Daniel?

he was ok but one cannot judge someones form by the match with Marcos Daniel on a grasscourt

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:41 PM
Actually it's a lot worse. After the match against Daniel they were like " look at Rafa! he hasn't played on grass in 2 years but he has the same form as 2008". After Istomin: "great win, it's not a problem he didn't play well, in 2008 he lost some sets in the first rounds but went on to win Queens &Wimbly". After Lopez :" obvious tank, good thinking now he has more time to prepare for Wimbledon" .

Just ignore the stupidity, that's all you can do. Ignore it, and pretend it isn't happening :hug:

Seriously, though, the result in this tournament for the top players isn't as big of a deal as getting matches in on grass.

B.z.A.
06-11-2010, 02:43 PM
hahahahhahahahahahahahhaha

ApproachShot
06-11-2010, 02:43 PM
nadal not looking too good for wimby.

lopez ends nadals:
- winning streak
- grass winning streak
- winning streak against spanish players



As I said after Federer lost at the QF of the French Open this year, all good things must come to an end and so too ends some of the streaks associated with Nadal (albeit not hugely important in magnitude). He's still my second favourite for Wimbledon. Remember this is the first match he has lost in months.

Even still, this was a match he should have won easily. But then again he shoud have beated Istomin with greater ease than he did. I'm sure he will be hitting the practice courts hard (unless he is cautious about aggravating an injury) because he can't afford to slip up early in Wimbledon. I have a feeling that in a best of 5 sets match, he won't be as likely to loose these matches - not because he could stil potentially come back from after being down 2-0 in sets, but because of the psychological advantage he can have over most opponents in a Grand Slam context.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:43 PM
played well against Daniel?

he was ok but one cannot judge someones form by the match with Marcos Daniel on a grasscourt

Yes, that's very true.

I guess I would say his tactics were good as he was looking to be aggressive. He had an aggressive mentality in his 3 matches for the most part, now he needs to rest and train a bit to get the execution down pat.

malisha
06-11-2010, 02:46 PM
agree flyboy..he will need that kind of game for Wimby
needs to be said though hes more vulnerable mentally while playing that style but only with it he can do well there

so yes this was the wright gameplan

Corey Feldman
06-11-2010, 02:46 PM
flyboy struggling to deal with this loss

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 02:49 PM
flyboy struggling to deal with this loss
I can hear the tears hitting his keyboard.

henke007
06-11-2010, 02:49 PM
lol@this

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 02:52 PM
I can hear the tears hitting his keyboard.

:lol:

tumbak
06-11-2010, 02:53 PM
or Karol Beck

Felo won't be surprised 2 times by Karol. If whole the season was on grass, Lopez would've been a top 10 player.

Aenea
06-11-2010, 02:53 PM
Guys, isn't there the WC for you to watch :D instead commenting on some warm-up tournaments? All those top players will play pretty different come Wimbledon. No worries about any of them except Novak who seems to still be looking for his game. At least he's doing well in doubles with Erlich :rocker2: Maybe they are opting for the title :)

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:55 PM
I do take it well, though, that's the thing. I hardly ever make excuses for Murray, I just say bad play by him, and good from his opponent. I understand completely that I am a tard. Since when haver I said "I am not a tard"? Never, so stop making up stuff ;)

I am a hater too, and I don't care if you think that's immature or not :shrug: Atleast I'm not arrogant like you, and think highly of myself and have my head up my own arse and think that I am above everyone else when clearly you're not and you aren't any better than anybody on here :)
When Nadull loses, tonnes and tonnes or people on the baord say it's from fatigue, which is bullcrap. When Murray loses I am disappointed and say that he was playing bad, but not all the time.
Basically, get a clue about me before making statements, man :)

I don't have my head up my ass, but I am mature enough not to hate someone I've never met or go on the thread of a player I don't like and mock that said player.

I never said Nadal lost because of fatigue, I'll say this once again, I'm not a tard. I don't put any player above the game. Don't connect with the many Rafa idiots who make statements like he's the favorite at Wimbledon or he's better than Roger. I may come off whatever way mostly because of the constant hate he's getting, I counteract that.

Also, I don't put any player above the game itself. To me, that's what being a "tard" is. Nadal losing isn't a big deal to me. You get defensive when Murray loses. You may give the opponent credit, but you also make excuses for Murray how he still better than Nadal, how he's going to start playing amazing out of the blue, how it's not a big deal for him that he lost here even though he was emotional after the loss to Fish. Let's not pretend that you don't.

You may not be as bad as some people on here but don't act as if your innocent, I'm not either in some respects myself. No-one is.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:56 PM
flyboy struggling to deal with this loss

:clap2::lol::ras:

mark73
06-11-2010, 02:56 PM
nadal = clay court specialist!

last non-clay title win........indian wells 2009.

13 months!!!!!



nadal should skip all grass and hard tournaments, he is pathetic!

losing to lopez is the ultimate humiliation.

this guy is not worthy of the world number 1 ranking, federer was right, nadal cannot handle the pressure of the number 1 ranking!

retire nadal!

He is pathetic? He missed last years grass to injury, won wimbledon in 2008 and he is pathetic? He just lost to a very good player lopez in the quarters after winning everything on clay. That makes him pathetic?

How pathetic does that make you?

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Felo won't be surprised 2 times by Karol. If whole the season was on grass, Lopez would've been a top 10 player.

Karol Beck is a pretty damn good player on grass. It's not too surprising Feli would lose to him.

malisha
06-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Felo won't be surprised 2 times by Karol. If whole the season was on grass, Lopez would've been a top 10 player.

and Beck would've been top 50 player

ZaZoo)
06-11-2010, 02:57 PM
flyboy struggling to deal with this loss

Seriously, defending Rafa on every post misleading himself that Rafa's in fine form, it was just a clay season and no contenders.

gorgo1986
06-11-2010, 02:58 PM
Nadal was too tired in the end to come back, he got some practice here on grass and I am happy he lost because he desperately needs some time off. Lalo is one of the most dangerous players on grass. I am so happy for him, I hope he wins the title now and gets back into the top 20. Strong season for Feli, this could be his second title of the year. And another Spanish is having a successful season. Vamos!!!! After all his personal problems Feli is playing great.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:00 PM
agree flyboy..he will need that kind of game for Wimby
needs to be said though hes more vulnerable mentally while playing that style but only with it he can do well there

so yes this was the wright gameplan

Yes, that isn't his natural game plan so he will make more errors, which will lead to a lessening of confidence. But as you say, it's the only way he'll win Wimbledon, so he just has to take the good with the bad and hope that his game will improve come Wimbledon time, and it should with some rest and more practice on grass.

Commander Data
06-11-2010, 03:01 PM
:lol:@MTF-overreaction..

What is the big deal here? Nadal just won an Slam. Maybe he is a bit tired from that, no?

gorgo1986
06-11-2010, 03:01 PM
I can hear the tears hitting his keyboard.

Yet a tired Nadal still made the Quarters and outperformed Murray on grass, who is number 1? deal with it.;) Now Lopez will win the tournament and Rafa will rest up for Wimbledon. Success!

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:02 PM
Seriously, defending Rafa on every post misleading himself that Rafa's in fine form, it was just a clay season and no contenders.

And Rafa won all of the matches and all but 2 in straight sets. He came off on injury to make back to back SF in Indian Wells and Miami. There is no misleading, he is in good form, and he's playing his first event on grass in 2 years. And playing Lopez, a top 10-15 grass player. I didn't expect the world from him here, I don't know why anyone else would. It's not a big deal, it's a 250 event, a tune up. Haters are really desperate to make this into some dramatic event, when it simply isn't.

You should worry much more about your man losing to Malisse, really. And your man losing pretty much to anyone lately. That's bad form. Winning doesn't=bad form.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:03 PM
I don't have my head up my ass, but I am mature enough not to hate someone I've never met or go on the thread of a player I don't like and mock that said player.

I never said Nadal lost because of fatigue, I'll say this once again, I'm not a tard. I don't put any player above the game. Don't connect with the many Rafa idiots who make statements like he's the favorite at Wimbledon or he's better than Roger. I may come off whatever way mostly because of the constant hate he's getting, I counteract that.

Also, I don't put any player above the game itself. To me, that's what being a "tard" is. Nadal losing isn't a big deal to me. You get defensive when Murray loses. You may give the opponent credit, but you also make excuses for Murray how he still better than Nadal, how he's going to start playing amazing out of the blue, how it's not a big deal for him that he lost here even though he was emotional after the loss to Fish. Let's not pretend that you don't.

You may not be as bad as some people on here but don't act as if your innocent, I'm not either in some respects myself. No-one is.
You are one of the most arrogant posters I've ever come acroos, boardering on GlennMirnyi territory.

Murray is much better to watch than Nadull, but I have never ever said that he is better in achievements, and you are very defensive when it comes to Nadull, so, I guess that makes youy like me, no? :shrug:

I am not acting as if I'm innocent, I am far from innocent.

mark73
06-11-2010, 03:03 PM
I am no Rafa fan but the guy lost a freaking match. No big deal. At least he wasn't crying like Murray. haha. I mean losing to a guy named Fish. What can be more embarrassing?

A physically healthy fish is easily capable of being in the top 20 if not higher. Problem is he's injured half the time.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:04 PM
:lol:@MTF-overreaction..

What is the big deal here? Nadal just won an Slam. Maybe he is a bit tired from that, no?

Well, you know how it is, desperate to find something to latch on and justify their hate of Rafa, it is what it is.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:04 PM
Yet a tired Nadal still made the Quarters and outperformed Murray on grass, who is number 1? deal with it.;) Now Lopez will win the tournament and Rafa will rest up for Wimbledon. Success!
Nadull didn't look tired to me. Murray didn't have the luck to meet Istomin in the third round either ;) He had a very good Fish to come up against.

I am dealing with it, Nadull is no.1? Big deal.

I would love Lopez to win Queens, and Murray is also resting up for Wimby, so success!

mark73
06-11-2010, 03:07 PM
It's a disgrace that Nadal is the World No 1. It's not his fault, it's the ranking system, but he can weep himself out of Wimbledon while pretending to touch his knee in pain, Roger can turn up and win and STILL isn't number 1. It really doesn't do the game any justice. Everyone knows now that Roger is the real number 1. Roger's clay results are far better than Nadal's grass and hard court results.

Are you familiar with how the ranking system works? :lol:

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:07 PM
Feli :hearts: :inlove: :worship:

Rafa :hug: :yeah:

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:08 PM
Nadal was too tired in the end to come back, he got some practice here on grass and I am happy he lost because he desperately needs some time off. Lalo is one of the most dangerous players on grass. I am so happy for him, I hope he wins the title now and gets back into the top 20. Strong season for Feli, this could be his second title of the year. And another Spanish is having a successful season. Vamos!!!! After all his personal problems Feli is playing great.

u know that excuse is getting really annoying.
everytime he loses, he is tired or injured.
i like rafa, but u gotta stop using that BS excuse man.
he lost because he isnt good enough outside of clay.
he has no confidence and he just doesnt have the talent to win on grass and hard consistently.

his form has been dipping since monte carlo and because he is so good on clay, he could get by playing 90% level and win everything on clay, but since we are away from clay, unless he plays his best, i dont thing he will win another title for the rest of this season.
he has to work that much harder to win on grass and hard to make up for his lack of talent and ability on those 2 surfaces.
fighting spirit can only get u so far, u need sheer skills to win on these 2 surfaces, after all tennis is a sport about talent and skills.
his skill set on hard courts just isnt upto standard.

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 03:09 PM
Seriously, defending Rafa on every post misleading himself that Rafa's in fine form, it was just a clay season and no contenders.

What a stupid thing to say, whether it's clay, ice, wood or whatever, he still had to beat those in front of him no matter who they are and he did. At least his winning unlike the players below him and Federer, yet you dismiss it because it's just clay. Some people are so incredibly daft and devoid of any ability to reason whatsoever.:rolleyes:

Bilbo
06-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Nadal will be fine for Wimbledon. Not surprising he lost today after winning a slam and changing the surface. I remember when Federer won the FO. He skipped the week after which normally each slam winner does. So you have to give credits to Nadal for playing in Queens while being mentally tired.

allpro
06-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Good week, good workouts for the champ.

He didn't need the extra two matches and now he get some rest and heal his famoose ass :yeah:

sheva07
06-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Great day for the grass game.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:14 PM
Good week, good workouts for the champ.

He didn't need the extra two matches and now he get some rest and heal his famoose ass :yeah:
So, is Gloryhole crying yet? :)

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 03:15 PM
I hope Nadal will play better at Wimbledon, I am not impressed. May be he tanked the match to get rest, but if not he has to think hard and concentrate on Wimbledon or he will not be good! :(

Ashlar77
06-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Great win Feli! :worship:

Orka_n
06-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Tank or not, I always feel happy when Nadull loses. :aplot:
Great stuff, Feli. :hug:

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 03:17 PM
u know that excuse is getting really annoying.
everytime he loses, he is tired or injured.
i like rafa, but u gotta stop using that BS excuse man.
he lost because he isnt good enough outside of clay.
he has no confidence and he just doesnt have the talent to win on grass and hard consistently.

his form has been dipping since monte carlo and because he is so good on clay, he could get by playing 90% level and win everything on clay, but since we are away from clay, unless he plays his best, i dont thing he will win another title for the rest of this season.
he has to work that much harder to win on grass and hard to make up for his lack of talent and ability on those 2 surfaces.
fighting spirit can only get u so far, u need sheer skills to win on these 2 surfaces, after all tennis is a sport about talent and skills.
his skill set on hard courts just isnt upto standard.

You have to tone it down a little, no one wins all matches, losing is part of the game, He just lost a match.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:18 PM
You are one of the most arrogant posters I've ever come acroos, boardering on GlennMirnyi territory.

Murray is much better to watch than Nadull, but I have never ever said that he is better in achievements, and you are very defensive when it comes to Nadull, so, I guess that makes youy like me, no? :shrug:

I am not acting as if I'm innocent, I am far from innocent.

OK, thanks for the opinion on my personality.

Thinking Murray is more interesting to watch than Nadal is an opinion. In their personal matches I would agree, but other than that.......

It's not better in achievements, you say Murray is better than Nadal. You have said he's a better player and will beat him when they play, when the H2H doesn't show that. 2 of the 3 wins for Murray were against a severely injured Nadal, AO this year, Rotterdam last year. Just because one guy may be more watchable doesn't mean they are a better player.

I guess I am defensive about Rafa. But my words are never "stop making fun of him, you suck, you are a stupid hater, Nadal is the best!!!!11111." I try to keep an intelligent and knowledgeable conversation, while others on here calling each other names and making excuses, that's the difference.

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:19 PM
Well, you know how it is, desperate to find something to latch on and justify their hate of Rafa, it is what it is.

its got nothing to do about hate.

i think people are disappointed and annoyed that rafa is the world number 1 but he has not won a single non-clay title in 13 months and that federer is holding the aussie open and wimbledon titles and final of the US open but he is ranked number 2. rafa is only holding the french open and doesnt win anything outside of clay, yet he is ranked above federer.

u have to question the ranking system.
this is similar to safina and jankovic being ranked number 1 ahead of serena without winning slams while serena holds nearly all the slams.

imagine if the opposite happened, that rafa holds 2 slams and a final and federer only holds 1 slam but federer is ranked number 1 ahead of rafa. how would u feel about that?

gotta put things into perspective

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:21 PM
OK, thanks for the opinion on my personality.

I sense some sarcasm here, but I'm not sure. But you should take the opinions seriously, cos he have some ego problems.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:21 PM
u know that excuse is getting really annoying.
everytime he loses, he is tired or injured.
i like rafa, but u gotta stop using that BS excuse man.
he lost because he isnt good enough outside of clay.
he has no confidence and he just doesnt have the talent to win on grass and hard consistently.

his form has been dipping since monte carlo and because he is so good on clay, he could get by playing 90% level and win everything on clay, but since we are away from clay, unless he plays his best, i dont thing he will win another title for the rest of this season.
he has to work that much harder to win on grass and hard to make up for his lack of talent and ability on those 2 surfaces.
fighting spirit can only get u so far, u need sheer skills to win on these 2 surfaces, after all tennis is a sport about talent and skills.
his skill set on hard courts just isnt upto standard.
Right.

He made back to back SFs on hard after coming off of injury.

He played his first event on grass in 2 years.

Last year he made all SFs and QFs coming off of more injuries.

At least wait until a big tournament (ie. Wimbledon) before saying he sucks and can't do anything on grass or hard. His results on the surfaces are right among the top 5 guys in the game. You expect him to be a world beater every week, but not even Rafa is capable of that. Chillax a bit.

Howard
06-11-2010, 03:21 PM
nadal = clay court specialist!

last non-clay title win........indian wells 2009.

13 months!!!!!



nadal should skip all grass and hard tournaments, he is pathetic!

You mean the guy who has won both Wimbledon and the Australian, plus another final at Wimby? Let's see, who else has done that among active players? There's Federer of course and... and... Guess they should all stick to clay, or retire.

The guy loses one match and his career is over. Sheesh.

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:22 PM
You have to tone it down a little, no one wins all matches, losing is part of the game, He just lost a match.

im a rafa fan.
but the fact remains that he has not won a non-clay title for 13 months.

Another RogFan
06-11-2010, 03:22 PM
You're becoming a class A Rafatard :yeah:

Agree!
Like all Rafatard "flyboy" was trying to dress up some image of objective tennis expert but at the end the truth come to the surface. It's really pity "flyboy" - you are one of the crowd already. Vamos!:cool:

mark73
06-11-2010, 03:24 PM
What a stupid thing to say, whether it's clay, ice, wood or whatever, he still had to beat those in front of him no matter who they are and he did. At least his winning unlike the players below him and Federer, yet you dismiss it because it's just clay. Some people are so incredibly daft and devoid of any ability to reason whatsoever.:rolleyes:

:yeah:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:24 PM
its got nothing to do about hate.

i think people are disappointed and annoyed that rafa is the world number 1 but he has not won a single non-clay title in 13 months and that federer is holding the aussie open and wimbledon titles and final of the US open but he is ranked number 2. rafa is only holding the french open and doesnt win anything outside of clay, yet he is ranked above federer.

u have to question the ranking system.
this is similar to safina and jankovic being ranked number 1 ahead of serena without winning slams while serena holds nearly all the slams.

imagine if the opposite happened, that rafa holds 2 slams and a final and federer only holds 1 slam but federer is ranked number 1 ahead of rafa. how would u feel about that?

gotta put things into perspective

Federer doesn't win anything on clay, why should he be #1? Roger doesn't win anything outside of majors, does that not matter? Rafa has a 5-2 H2H over Roger in GS matches, is that disregarded?

Nadal is ranked above Federer because he's had better results. It's pretty much that simple.

Things into perspective? Easy. Nadal is #1, Federer is #2, and their results bear out the reasons why that is. Get over it, please.

SlicedAce
06-11-2010, 03:24 PM
Tank or not, I always feel happy when Nadull loses. :aplot:
Great stuff, Feli. :hug:

Is it me or are the Swedish posters on this board really stupid and childish except maybe one and never have anything of worth to say except when it's concerning Soderling.

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:25 PM
Right.

He made back to back SFs on hard after coming off of injury.

He played his first event on grass in 2 years.

Last year he made all SFs and QFs coming off of more injuries.

At least wait until a big tournament (ie. Wimbledon) before saying he sucks and can't do anything on grass or hard. His results on the surfaces are right among the top 5 guys in the game. You expect him to be a world beater every week, but not even Rafa is capable of that. Chillax a bit.

semifinals is not a title win.
and u expect him to win wimbledon?
the second he meets a top player at wimbledon, he will be shown the exit.
no one remembers semis, only titles matter

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:25 PM
Agree!
Like all Rafatard "flyboy" was trying to dress up some image of objective tennis expert but at the end the truth come to the surface. It's really pity "flyboy" - you are one of the crowd already. Vamos!:cool:

Being a Federer fan doesn't mean you have to be a Rafa hater. They don't have any issue or personal rivalry, why would you?

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 03:26 PM
its got nothing to do about hate.

i think people are disappointed and annoyed that rafa is the world number 1 but he has not won a single non-clay title in 13 months and that federer is holding the aussie open and wimbledon titles and final of the US open but he is ranked number 2. rafa is only holding the french open and doesnt win anything outside of clay, yet he is ranked above federer.

u have to question the ranking system.
this is similar to safina and jankovic being ranked number 1 ahead of serena without winning slams while serena holds nearly all the slams.

imagine if the opposite happened, that rafa holds 2 slams and a final and federer only holds 1 slam but federer is ranked number 1 ahead of rafa. how would u feel about that?

gotta put things into perspective

You praise Nadal when he wins like no one else and you bash him bad when he loses, you have to be more logic, enjoy tennis and relax, He just lost a match after giving the most successful clay season ever in history. Don't bash him cause he lost a match. It was going to happen one day. He needs to regroup and concentrate in Wimbledon. not to be in too much pressure or so indifferent.

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:27 PM
Federer doesn't win anything on clay, why should he be #1? Roger doesn't win anything outside of majors, does that not matter? Rafa has a 5-2 H2H over Roger in GS matches, is that disregarded?

Nadal is ranked above Federer because he's had better results. It's pretty much that simple.

Things into perspective? Easy. Nadal is #1, Federer is #2, and their results bear out the reasons why that is. Get over it, please.

read my sig.
that my answer!

superslam77
06-11-2010, 03:27 PM
I sense some sarcasm here, but I'm not sure. But you should take the opinions seriously, cos he have some ego problems.

MR.perfect Rafa's personal lawyer for ACC :rocker2:

let's vote already

AsGoodAsNew
06-11-2010, 03:27 PM
You have to tone it down a little, no one wins all matches, losing is part of the game, He just lost a match.

Hello Sweet!;)

Losing is part of the game but as you said yourself in a previous post, this was not impressive. The point for me is that other than that short clay court season he hasn't done much winning....

FormerRafaFan
06-11-2010, 03:28 PM
:haha::haha::haha: oh poor Rafa even faboys started to beat him :haha::haha::haha:

Excuse me but Lopez has never been a "fanboy", he's won once over Nadal, and he technically is better than Nadal on grass. It's his favorite surface.

That being said, Lopez played very well today, Nadal sucked. It was a well deserved win.

allpro
06-11-2010, 03:28 PM
Murray is much better to watch than Nadull.

:haha:

At least Nadal made it to the quarters and lost to an in-form F-lo.

and slamless Murray?....lol, kinda like you Gloryhole -- just a whiny little bitch :lol:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-11-2010, 03:28 PM
First time I cheered for Lalo! :haha: Good win!

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:29 PM
semifinals is not a title win.
and u expect him to win wimbledon?
the second he meets a top player at wimbledon, he will be shown the exit.
no one remembers semis, only titles matter
So basically, to be validated, Rafa has to win every event he plays. And should win, even coming off of injuries.

Also, you are a mind reader, and can predict his future results using your magical crystal ball :bounce:

Yeah, like I said, that's definitely a crazy mentality to have :crazy:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:30 PM
Hello Sweet!;)

Losing is part of the game but as you said yourself in a previous post, this was not impressive. The point for me is that other than that short clay court season he hasn't done much winning....

And that's why he's world #1. Because he doesn't do much winning.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:30 PM
read my sig.
that my answer!

Read my post.

You are not sounding sane!

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:30 PM
You praise Nadal when he wins like no one else and you bash him bad when he loses, you have to be more logic, enjoy tennis and relax, He just lost a match after giving the most successful clay season ever in history. Don't bash him cause he lost a match. It was going to happen one day. He needs to regroup and concentrate in Wimbledon. not to be in too much pressure or so indifferent.

:hug:

yea ur right!
im getting too emotional.

but how long do we have to wait for him to win a non-clay title?
is it going to be like last year, that his last title win was rome 2009 and we had to wait 11 months for his next title.

oranges
06-11-2010, 03:31 PM
Flyboy to soon enter NadalSharapova/rafawonCYGS fanboy territory :rocker2:

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 03:31 PM
2 of the 3 wins for Murray were against a severely injured Nadal, AO this year

No, Murray was outplaying him & winning when the injury happened.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:31 PM
I sense some sarcasm here, but I'm not sure. But you should take the opinions seriously, cos he have some ego problems.

I don't take most anything on here seriously. Oh, and I wasn't being sarcastic.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:33 PM
No, Murray was outplaying him & winning when the injury happened.The thing is, though, we don't know when the injury occurred or if he was injured going into the match. All we do know is the end of the second set and the third set Rafa was physically struggling and couldn't give his best.

mark73
06-11-2010, 03:33 PM
What a stupid thing to say, whether it's clay, ice, wood or whatever, he still had to beat those in front of him no matter who they are and he did. At least his winning unlike the players below him and Federer, yet you dismiss it because it's just clay. Some people are so incredibly daft and devoid of any ability to reason whatsoever.:rolleyes:

Mixed doubles on a hard matress surface, featuring Wozniacki and Ivanovic. :drool:

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 03:33 PM
Hello Sweet!;)

Losing is part of the game but as you said yourself in a previous post, this was not impressive. The point for me is that other than that short clay court season he hasn't done much winning....

this!:yeah:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:33 PM
Flyboy to soon enter NadalSharapova/rafawonCYGS fanboy territory :rocker2:

If that is what ignorant haters call me for showing common sense, go right ahead :angel:

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:34 PM
To anyone arguing with Glory: he is a young child (only 13/14) Please watch how you respond to him, and remember he is just a little kid.

rocketassist
06-11-2010, 03:34 PM
The thing is, though, we don't know when the injury occurred or if he was injured going into the match. All we do know is the end of the second set and the third set Rafa was physically struggling and couldn't give his best.

Wrong.

Murray outplayed him for the two sets, and Nadal was even playing well. Now shut up and fuck off you excuse making fanboy.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:35 PM
The thing is, though, we don't know when the injury occurred or if he was injured going into the match. All we do know is the end of the second set and the third set Rafa was physically struggling and couldn't give his best.

We do know :confused: Rafa said he felt something go in his knee in his last service game in the 2nd set. He didn't have any injury coming into the match.

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 03:36 PM
The thing is, though, we don't know when the injury occurred or if he was injured going into the match. All we do know is the end of the second set and the third set Rafa was physically struggling and couldn't give his best.

He was playing extremely well most of the time he was on court. We never know what's going on with any player.

gorgo1986
06-11-2010, 03:37 PM
and by the way all the haters who are happy for Feli, you should know that Feliciano is one of Rafa's best friends, so really its a win, win situation. Rafa loses to one of his best friends, gets to relax, enjoy the world cup and prepare for Wimbledon.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:37 PM
Wrong.

Murray outplayed him for the two sets, and Nadal was even playing well. Now shut up and fuck off you excuse making fanboy.

Awwwww, you can't make a point without resorting to insults :hearts:

rocketassist
06-11-2010, 03:39 PM
Awwwww, you can't make a point without resorting to insults :hearts:

It wasn't too bad when you were just excusing the Soderling loss but it's clear now you're one of those 'never loses unless injured/tired/woke up on the wrong side of the bed' fanboys.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:39 PM
We do know :confused: Rafa said he felt something go in his knee in his last service game in the 2nd set. He didn't have any injury coming into the match.

OK, good to know. So therefore, he played the tiebreak injured. And then the third set before retiring. That goes back to what I said, in that you never know what may have happened if Nadal wasn't injured, how the match would have played out.

Murray played amazing and deserves credit but Nadal being hurt definitely cannot be forgotten as a footnote of what happened during the match.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:40 PM
Awwwww, you can't make a point without resorting to insults :hearts:

flyboy, I find you pretty irritating :hug: but if you want a good laugh find the Nadal-Murray IW 09 Final thread and have a good giggle at the excuses made by the Murraytards for that.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:41 PM
He was playing extremely well most of the time he was on court. We never know what's going on with any player.

He was, Murray was amazing and outplaying him. I wasn't trying to take anything away from Murray or make excuses for Rafa. The fact is, though, the second set tiebreak, the third set, he was clearly struggling, and if he had been healthy throughout the match, we don't know what the result could have been.

gorgo1986
06-11-2010, 03:41 PM
Stop the bickering in here, for Rafa lovers there is a positive and that is Rafa getting some much earned rest, for Rafa haters, well Rafa is not gonna be winning again this week. All is good now relax and watch the world cup. Its a good game.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:41 PM
Murray played amazing and deserves credit but Nadal being hurt definitely cannot be forgotten as a footnote of what happened during the match.

I think it can. Rafa lost to Murray, end of.

edit: Rafa has w/d from doubles with the hamstring strain he picked up yesterday and will spend his first weekend at home since before IW :hearts:

Rita
06-11-2010, 03:42 PM
12 pages :spit:

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 03:42 PM
OK, good to know. So therefore, he played the tiebreak injured. And then the third set before retiring. That goes back to what I said, in that you never know what may have happened if Nadal wasn't injured, how the match would have played out.

No. All we know is that while they were on court, both before & after the injury, Murray played better than Nadal.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:42 PM
It wasn't too bad when you were just excusing the Soderling loss but it's clear now you're one of those 'never loses unless injured/tired/woke up on the wrong side of the bed' fanboys.

I give full credit to both Soderling and Murray for their victories :wavey:

But that does not make the fact Nadal was injured in those matches untrue.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:43 PM
To anyone arguing with Glory: he is a young child (only 13/14) Please watch how you respond to him, and remember he is just a little kid.
Great argument, l_mac :loL: I especially like how you call me a "little kid" :lol:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:44 PM
No. All we know is that while they were on court, both before & after the injury, Murray played better than Nadal.
Yes, he was. Then Nadal got hurt and was physically struggling clearly in the tiebreak and third set. I never said Murray wasn't outplaying Rafa or doesn't deserve credit, he was and he does. But we don't know what could have happened and just how everything would have went if Nadal were not hurt.

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 03:44 PM
Flyboy to soon enter NadalSharapova/rafawonCYGS fanboy territory :rocker2:

Fanboy or not, at least he's putting his views better than the other nonsensical posts and posters in this thread, who after posting utter rubbish, then getting called out for it and can't come up with a sensible riposte resort to labeling people fanboys or whatever to diminish their argument.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:45 PM
I think it can. Rafa lost to Murray, end of.

edit: Rafa has w/d from doubles with the hamstring strain he picked up yesterday and will spend his first weekend at home since before IW :hearts:

You may forget it, but in the grand scheme of things, no, it cannot be forgotten. Saying "end of" doesn't make you right or end the debate.

sennoc
06-11-2010, 03:47 PM
Did Lopez win the first set? Yes, he did. And Nadal's famous fighting spirit disappeared. What a surprise. It's so easy to have a brave heart if you are winning in the best circumstances...

*Jean*
06-11-2010, 03:47 PM
Feli :yeah:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:47 PM
flyboy, I find you pretty irritating :hug: but if you want a good laugh find the Nadal-Murray IW 09 Final thread and have a good giggle at the excuses made by the Murraytards for that.

Thanks for giving your honest opinion of me, it's appreciated :wavey:

Oh, and thanks but no thanks for the Nadal-Murray IW thing. I'm having enough fun at the stupid people on here right now ;)

habibko
06-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Lalo :worship: :hearts: the better grass courter won! :D

now win it all :rocker2:

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Great argument, l_mac :lol: I especially like how you call me a "little kid" :lol:

Argument? :confused:

You are a kid :shrug: IMO poeople should watch how they respond/treat you because you are a child.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Thanks for giving your honest opinion of me, it's appreciated :wavey:

Oh, and thanks but no thanks for the Nadal-Murray IW thing. I'm having enough fun at the stupid people on here right now ;)
In turn we're having so much fun with you :D And you have the nerve to call people stupid :lol: Or is that your ego again?

oranges
06-11-2010, 03:49 PM
Fanboy or not, at least he's putting his views better than the other nonsensical posts and posters in this thread, who after posting utter rubbish, then getting called out for it and can't come up with a sensible riposte resort to labeling people fanboys or whatever to diminish their argument.

Is that me who was suppsoed ot riposte something?

BTW, regurgitating the same 'cannot lose unless injured' nonsense is not what I'd call better presented, sensible views. It's the definition of clownish, boring and lacking in common sense, just like the aforementioned duo.

rocketassist
06-11-2010, 03:49 PM
Fanboy or not, at least he's putting his views better than the other nonsensical posts and posters in this thread, who after posting utter rubbish, then getting called out for it and can't come up with a sensible riposte resort to labeling people fanboys or whatever to diminish their argument.

Shut up and go back to the kitchen.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:50 PM
In turn we're having so much fun with you :D And you have the nerve to call people stupid :lol: Or is that your ego again?
My mother told me not to mess with children so I'm not going to now :hug:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:50 PM
Argument? :confused:

You are a kid :shrug: IMO poeople should watch how they respond/treat you because you are a child.
Why? I have been fine for a year and a half on here, so why change now? You sort of treat me as if I'm nothing, which is extremely insulting, but can't say I'm surprised with you. I mean you have tried to get me banned countless times, and treat me like a little 2 year old :lol:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:51 PM
My mother told me not to mess with children so I'm not going to now :hug:
So now that you know that I'm 14, you're going to stop arguing with me? Don't be such a little girl :lol: You seemed fine with arguing with me beforehand :)

Matt01
06-11-2010, 03:52 PM
Congrats, Feli :yeah: :worship:


Shut up and go back to the kitchen.


For speakng the truth? Hardly :wavey:

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:52 PM
Fanboy or not, at least he's putting his views better than the other nonsensical posts and posters in this thread, who after posting utter rubbish, then getting called out for it and can't come up with a sensible riposte resort to labeling people fanboys or whatever to diminish their argument.

Exactly. That's all they can do though, is insult and say silly things, because they are empty headed. This is how empty headed people behave. It's so much funnier and funnier the more worked up they get, simply because they cannot handle facts. It's not my problem, though :angel:

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 03:52 PM
Is that me who was suppsoed ot riposte something?

BTW, regurgitating the same 'cannot lose unless injured' nonsense is not what I'd call better presented, sensible views. It's the definition of clownish, boring and lacking in common sense, just like the aforementioned duo.

No, it wasn't addressed to you specifically, just about the thread in general, but I noticed that you only jumped in to attack the "clownish" posts of flyboy on page 13, when there were already tons of clownish posts from others? Or do you actually think his post is the only one devoid of common sense in this entire thread?:confused:

Shut up and go back to the kitchen.

If you want me to cook for you, you'll have to ask nicer than that, okay?:)

martinatreue
06-11-2010, 03:52 PM
Get well soon, Rafa. Let those multiple injuries heal ;)

malisha
06-11-2010, 03:54 PM
The thing is, though, we don't know when the injury occurred or if he was injured going into the match. All we do know is the end of the second set and the third set Rafa was physically struggling and couldn't give his best.

Nadal said he was playing his best tennis in first two sets

he got spanked in both

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:56 PM
Nadal said he was playing his best tennis in first two sets

he got spanked in both
He was definitely being outplayed, I never said he wasn't. Nadal played well, Murray played amazing. But that doesn't change the fact Nadal got hurt I guess at the end of the second set, and from that point forward was injured. I'm not trying to make an excuse or somehow take shine off of Murray, simply saying a factual statement.

Filo V.
06-11-2010, 03:57 PM
So now that you know that I'm 14, you're going to stop arguing with me? Don't be such a little girl :lol: You seemed fine with arguing with me beforehand :)

No, I'm not, and we aren't arguing, we're debating ;)

l_mac
06-11-2010, 03:58 PM
Why? I have been fine for a year and a half on here, so why change now? You sort of treat me as if I'm nothing, which is extremely insulting, but can't say I'm surprised with you. I mean you have tried to get me banned countless times, and treat me like a little 2 year old :lol:

I treat you as a school kid, that's what you are. It's uncomfortable for me to see posters arguing with you. There's an assumption that everyone posting here is an adult and I think its important to point out those who aren't. It's one thing for older posters to behave in a childish fashion, another when a poster is child-like on account of actually being a child. People need to make allowances for you.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 03:59 PM
No, I'm not, and we aren't arguing, we're debating ;)
Arguing, debating. They're basically the same thing, only different words.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:00 PM
I treat you as a school kid, that's what you are. It's uncomfortable for me to see posters arguing with you. There's an assumption that everyone posting here is an adult and I think its important to point out those who aren't. It's one thing for older posters to behave in a childish fashion, another when a poster is child-like on account of actually being a child. People need to make allowances for you.
What a load of crap. I think the people who don't want to argue with someone just because they are 14 are a bunch of cowards. As RFK would say, man up :wavey:

And you treat me as I am? Ok, is that why people treat you as if you are a hateful person?

allpro
06-11-2010, 04:02 PM
Glory, you're only 14 y.o.? :eek: ........I take back what I called you and I would like to exchange it for something more age appropriate, this:

http://www.uzoj.com/emoticons-smilies/3d%20animated%20and%20big%20emoticons%20and%20smil ies/Large%20JvP%20pack/emot15.gif

Hehe.....no hard feelings and best of luck to Murray at Wimbledon! ;)

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:04 PM
Glory, you're only 14 y.o.? :eek: ........I take back what I called you and I would like to exchange it for something more age appropriate, this:

http://www.uzoj.com/emoticons-smilies/3d%20animated%20and%20big%20emoticons%20and%20smil ies/Large%20JvP%20pack/emot15.gif

Hehe.....no hard feelings and best of luck to Murray at Wimbledon! ;)
Thanks :rolleyes:

Seriously, I don't care if people call me names...it's an internet forum, and I'm more than mature enough to not take it seriously.

End of.

gorgo1986
06-11-2010, 04:04 PM
Thanks :rolleyes:

Seriously, I don't care if people call me names...it's an internet forum, and I'm more than mature enough to not take it seriously.

End of.

Deep down I am sure you are a nice kid.:wavey: Good luck to Murray at Wimbledon.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 04:06 PM
Yeah, he's a sweet boy. Everyone go easy on him. Think back to when you were 14 :lol: :hug:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:07 PM
I bet yous were all assholes when you were 14.

Sillyrabbit
06-11-2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah, he's a sweet boy. Everyone go easy on him. Think back to when you were 14 :lol: :hug:

He really is 14? :lol: I thought you were just having a dig at him. Explains a lot. Now if only other posters were 14 too.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 04:16 PM
He really is 14? :lol: I thought you were just having a dig at him. Explains a lot. Now if only other posters were 14 too.

No, I wasn't having a dig :lol: He seems to be misunderstanding me too. I think it is important that people keep in mind his age when they're interacting with him here.

On topic: Rafa looked delicious in his presser :inlove:

allpro
06-11-2010, 04:17 PM
I bet yous were all assholes when you were 14.

Hehe.....but I didn't have internet when I was 14 so my impact was much more limited :angel:

paseo
06-11-2010, 04:17 PM
Actually it's a lot worse. After the match against Daniel they were like " look at Rafa! he hasn't played on grass in 2 years but he has the same form as 2008". After Istomin: "great win, it's not a problem he didn't play well, in 2008 he lost some sets in the first rounds but went on to win Queens &Wimbly". After Lopez :" obvious tank, good thinking now he has more time to prepare for Wimbledon" .

:lol:

Flyboy to soon enter NadalSharapova/rafawonCYGS fanboy territory :rocker2:

I don't think anybody can reach the height that was rafawonuso09.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 04:19 PM
I don't think anybody can reach the height that was rafawonuso09.

Still no-one has matched the dreadfullness of R=FK. rafawonuso09 wasn't a genuine account.

Waterfox
06-11-2010, 04:19 PM
so obvious that Nadall tank this match!!!
he doesnt need to waste time and effort on this tourney

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:19 PM
No, I wasn't having a dig :lol: He seems to be misunderstanding me too. I think it is important that people keep in mind his age when they're interacting with him here.

On topic: Rafa looked delicious in his presser :inlove:
There is no reason they should be any different to me. I think it is important to remember I am an individual too, and that you should be honest all the time, no matter how old I am.

And what kind of language is that? Rafa delicious? You sicken me :o

Matt01
06-11-2010, 04:23 PM
Still no-one has matched the dreadfullness of R=FK.


How dare you say something like that. RFK is and always will be a genius. Best and most brilliant poster ever.

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:25 PM
How dare you say something like that. RFK is and always will be a genius. Best and most brilliant poster ever.
Really hope this is sarcasm.

Smoke944
06-11-2010, 04:26 PM
gotta love this knee jerk reactions in every fucking thread these days :haha:

Nadal,Murray,Roddick and Cilic will all be just fine for Wimbeldon


good win for Lalo though

yea

emotion
06-11-2010, 04:27 PM
Great win for Lopez happily
Bad loss for Nadal joyously

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Yes, he was. Then Nadal got hurt and was physically struggling clearly in the tiebreak and third set. I never said Murray wasn't outplaying Rafa or doesn't deserve credit, he was and he does. But we don't know what could have happened and just how everything would have went if Nadal were not hurt.

Yes I know but you can say that about anything. It's trivially true. Who gives a shit?

rafa_maniac
06-11-2010, 04:31 PM
I didn't watch the match, this must be why Rafa lost :sad: Seriously though, not a big surprise considering Rafa's performance yesterday and Lalo's form on grass. I didn't think Rafa was in this to win it, and I don't think he'll be too upset to be home, have a week off from tennis and not have to deal with this weather anymore. Good win for Lalo, I don't doubt this will do little to stop the talk about Spaniards "bending over" when they face Nadal though... Can't wait for Wimbledon!

ossie
06-11-2010, 04:33 PM
strategic tank from the king, lol 15 pages :haha:

rocketassist
06-11-2010, 04:36 PM
This off the BBC :lol:

606: DEBATE
Nadal must have been injured or something. He can't have been 100%

Del Potro owns the Moonballer

viruzzz
06-11-2010, 04:38 PM
Sweet :devil:

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 04:40 PM
I didn't watch the match, this must be why Rafa lost :sad: Seriously though, not a big surprise considering Rafa's performance yesterday and Lalo's form on grass. I didn't think Rafa was in this to win it, and I don't think he'll be too upset to be home, have a week off from tennis and not have to deal with this weather anymore. Good win for Lalo, I don't doubt this will do little to stop the talk about Spaniards "bending over" when they face Nadal though... Can't wait for Wimbledon!

no way is nadal winning wimbledon. there is just absolutely no way!
if u cant beat lopez, then nadal has no chance against guys like federer, roddick, murray, karlovic, kohlschreiber, gulbis, soderling, etc.

so he didnt win doha, aussie open, indian wells, miami, queens.
he mostly likely will not win wimbledon, canada, cincinnati, US open, beijing, shanghai, paris and london tour finals, because they are on grass and hard and all the top players are returning.

so nadal's next title will mostly likely be monte carlo 2011 or barcelona 2011.
he got rid of that clay court specialist tag for a while in 2008/2009 but now rafa is back to being a clay court specialist.
a clay court specialist is when u can only win titles on the clay, and rafa fits that defition perfectly now.

Matt01
06-11-2010, 04:43 PM
no way is nadal winning wimbledon. there is just absolutely no way!
if u cant beat lopez, then nadal has no chance against guys like federer, roddick, murray, karlovic, kohlschreiber, gulbis, soderling, etc.


Overreacting much? :rolleyes: Or jinxing? :p

Lopez is arguably a much better grass court player than likes of Kohlschreiber, Gulbis and Söderling.
And Roddick? Well, his form is form going expontentially downhill since March...

tangerine_dream
06-11-2010, 04:43 PM
It's a joke how short the grass season is. Where else are these guys going to get grass match play before Wimbledon? Exos don't really do the trick. I demand more grass. http://i24.tinypic.com/25848ps.jpg

superslam77
06-11-2010, 04:44 PM
no way is nadal winning wimbledon. there is just absolutely no way!
if u cant beat lopez, then nadal has no chance against guys like federer, roddick, murray, karlovic, kohlschreiber, gulbis, soderling, etc.

so he didnt win doha, aussie open, indian wells, miami, queens.
he mostly likely will not win wimbledon, canada, cincinnati, US open, beijing, shanghai, paris and london tour finals, because they are on grass and hard and all the top players are returning.

so nadal's next title will mostly likely be monte carlo 2011 or barcelona 2011.
he got rid of that clay court specialist tag for a while in 2008/2009 but now rafa is back to being a clay court specialist.
a clay court specialist is when u can only win titles on the clay, and rafa fits that defition perfectly now.

finally a Nadalasian with a brain unlike all those fangirls and nationalists that never touched a racket before. needless to say mid 2008-early 2009 was rafa's prime and roger's mono...reference to that time is flawed :wavey:

Matt01
06-11-2010, 04:45 PM
Really hope this is sarcasm.


I'm totally serious and am awaiting your next bad rep.

GasquetFan
06-11-2010, 04:46 PM
LOL only seeds left are Querrey, Sela and Lopez. Tournament=fail :o

Matt01
06-11-2010, 04:46 PM
finally a Nadalasian with a brain unlike all those fangirls and nationalists that never touched a racket before. needless to say mid 2008-early 2009 was rafa's prime and roger's mono...reference to that time is flawed :wavey:


Roger's mono was at the beginning of 2008 :rolleyes:
It's just a lame excuse, though, anyway.

superslam77
06-11-2010, 04:47 PM
Still no-one has matched the dreadfullness of R=FK. rafawonuso09 wasn't a genuine account.

no..but you, flyboy and topspin got very close at your respective peaks :lol:

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:49 PM
I'm totally serious and am awaiting your next bad rep.
Wow, RFK was something else. Sure, he was entertaining, but goddamn was he irritating. The best poster that has ever graced this forum has got to either be fast_clay or finishingmove. When it comes to clowns, its.like.that and dylan24 were very funny.

The badrep will come sure enough, I'll try and make it funny...

l_mac
06-11-2010, 04:49 PM
no..but you, flyboy and topspin got very close at your respective peaks :lol:

My peak was as a Nole/Fed basher. I've never been a very good Rafatroll, though I am an excellent fangirl. :worship:

superslam77
06-11-2010, 04:49 PM
Roger's mono was at the beginning of 2008 :rolleyes:
It's just a lame excuse, though, anyway.

not as excuse. but rafa "fans" always use that reference as an updated fact.

results alone will tell you that or you seriously think rafa is playing that well and roger that bad?

madmax
06-11-2010, 04:50 PM
it's OK Rafito...take your time healing those multiple injures you always endure and come back healthy for Wimby

Sapeod
06-11-2010, 04:51 PM
My peak was as a Nole/Fed basher. I've never been a very good Rafatroll, though I am an excellent fangirl. :worship:
I agree, your Djoko hate was quite exceptional in 2008 (when I was a lurker, and not a poster) :worship:

careergrandslam
06-11-2010, 04:52 PM
finally a Nadalasian with a brain unlike all those fangirls and nationalists that never touched a racket before. needless to say mid 2008-early 2009 was rafa's prime and roger's mono...reference to that time is flawed :wavey:

it pains me to say it, but rafa did take advantage of federer not being at 100% in 2008.
i think this clay court season was the exception, not the rule.

its going to be a painful next few months watchin rafa getting destroyed by good grass and hard court players in every tournament.

now if rafa had won a masters series on hard earlier this year, i wouldnt be so pessimistic, but the guy has not won a non-clay title for ages.
without the clay season, rafa would be fighting for crumbs the whole year.
i have lost all hope in him, i really thought he could win queens and get some momentum into wimbledon, but apparently i had too much high hopes.

oh well:sad:

superslam77
06-11-2010, 04:53 PM
My peak was as a Nole/Fed basher. I've never been a very good Rafatroll, though I am an excellent fangirl. :worship:

:rolls:

Too bad you been ripped apart younger and stronger fangirls such as sweet cleo and flyboy aka mr.perfect :haha:

Your nole hating pics where gold :clap2:
now you're just PC and average :unsure:

l_mac
06-11-2010, 04:53 PM
^^ :lol:

The lol was for careergrandslam.

Matt01
06-11-2010, 04:54 PM
not as excuse. but rafa "fans" always use that reference as an updated fact.

results alone will tell you that or you seriously think rafa is playing that well and roger that bad?


Not sure what you are talking about here.

superslam77
06-11-2010, 04:55 PM
it pains me to say it, but rafa did take advantage of federer not being at 100% in 2008.
i think this clay court season was the exception, not the rule.

its going to be a painful next few months watchin rafa getting destroyed by good grass and hard court players in every tournament.

now if rafa had won a masters series on hard earlier this year, i wouldnt be so pessimistic, but the guy has not won a non-clay title for ages.
without the clay season, rafa would be fighting for crumbs the whole year.
i have lost all hope in him, i really thought he could win queens and get some momentum into wimbledon, but apparently i had too much high hopes.

oh well:sad:

Rafa will finish the year at number one unless he is bounced early out of WB. Unlikely even with the bad form.

Corey Feldman
06-11-2010, 04:55 PM
oh i forgot

dedicated to RedFury, christallh24 and M4RC

superslam77
06-11-2010, 04:56 PM
Not sure what you are talking about here.

That rafa is favorite for WB and fangirls expect him to dominate outside of clay :o(or even compare him to 2008 level).

Commander Data
06-11-2010, 04:58 PM
i-mac really has settled down in her older years.

l_mac
06-11-2010, 05:00 PM
i-mac really has settled down in her older years.

It's true. :shrug:

Lets see George try and seed me at the ACC this year.