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The Grass court season should be longer

green25814
06-10-2010, 05:50 PM
Personally, I love watching grass tennis. Its just so much smoother than the other surfaces, and IMO is tennis at its most fun to watch.

Why therefore is it the shortest part of the year? Why can't we do away with a few hardcourt tournaments and extend the grass season?

ChuckNorrisFan
06-10-2010, 05:52 PM
Ask the ATP

dombrfc
06-10-2010, 05:53 PM
As asked a thousand times before.

We wish.

Johnny Groove
06-10-2010, 05:54 PM
It all comes back to the money.

Funny how the world revolves around paper with numbers on them.

green25814
06-10-2010, 05:57 PM
Why would extending the grass season lose the ATP money??

Mjau!
06-10-2010, 05:57 PM
It all comes back to the money.

Funny how the world revolves around paper with numbers on them.

How about synthetic grass then?

Good for the famous knees! :yeah:

BackhandMissile
06-10-2010, 06:09 PM
Ideally it would be Halle, Queens Masters and Wimbledon.

The clay season could be shortened to Monte-Carlo, Madrid and RG.

One of the hard court tournaments can also be scrapped. Miami maybe.

Surcouf
06-10-2010, 06:11 PM
No .

Ace , ace , short rally, ace, volley, ace , ace , non returned serve, ace, decent rally, ace is quite boring.

BackhandMissile
06-10-2010, 06:14 PM
No .

Ace , ace , short rally, ace, volley, ace , ace , non returned serve, ace, decent rally, ace is quite boring.

The grass hype is a recent trend started by the current crop of fanboys. What you mentioned above is exactly what people critisized about fast courts in the 90's: that the rallies only lasted 2-3 points and it was all about the serve (mainly).

oranges
06-10-2010, 06:36 PM
It should, but it won't.


When Surcouf protests, you know it's something great, and vice versa.

Sillyrabbit
06-10-2010, 06:39 PM
Grass is just too hard to maintain compared to HC or clay courts. Even Wimbledon had to make sacrifices(by using a different type of grass, which slowed it down) to make it easier to maintain.

Sapeod
06-10-2010, 06:39 PM
No .

Ace , ace , short rally, ace, volley, ace , ace , non returned serve, ace, decent rally, ace is quite boring.
What a stupid post. Serve and volley is very exciting and enjoyable to watch. Aces are also fun to watch to, especially to see how many the players can get :D

rafa_maniac
06-10-2010, 06:42 PM
This has been mentioned many times and I think everyone agrees with the sentiment. The grass season is my personal favourite but this might have a lot to do with it's protracted nature making it feel quite special. Serve-fests are an utter bore, but seeing players forced to use crafty all court play is not.

B.z.A.
06-10-2010, 06:47 PM
It should be longer, definately!
I want grass masters 1000!

Sophocles
06-10-2010, 06:55 PM
Grass is just too hard to maintain compared to HC or clay courts. Even Wimbledon had to make sacrifices(by using a different type of grass, which slowed it down) to make it easier to maintain.

It can't be that hard to maintain or grass courts wouldn't have preponderated for the best part of the last century.

Of course the grass season should be longer. And it should be hard courts rather than clay that take the hit. 35% hard, 25% clay, 25% grass, 15% indoor carpet - the last idiotically phased out by the ATP - would be far more balanced & better for the players' health than the rubbishy season we have now.

scoobs
06-10-2010, 06:56 PM
It should be eliminated, all our tournaments should be converted to clay and we should have two clay slams.

Priam
06-10-2010, 07:04 PM
Halle can become the 6th masters.

Sapeod
06-10-2010, 07:05 PM
The fact that there are so little grass courts is bad for tennis. More grass = better tennis.

martinatreue
06-10-2010, 07:06 PM
2-3 weeks longer would be better :)

peribsen
06-10-2010, 08:01 PM
Of course it should be longer, tennis was born on grass and grew up on grass & clay. Just like the Americans to invent a third surface and later impose it on most of the rest of the world!!

I'd keep the clay as it is, force Aussies and Canadians to remember their head of state is the Queen (she likes it grass, more classy) and dutifuly return to the lawns of their forefathers. US and China can keep all their hardcourts, with all those huge cities full of skyscrapers no wonder they lack the room for proper courts and are forced to play street-tennis!

Oh, and we could throw in a couple of indoor carpet events, to allow Scandinavians to get some exercise without leaving the igloo...

raahaat7
06-10-2010, 08:37 PM
It can't be that hard to maintain or grass courts wouldn't have preponderated for the best part of the last century.

Of course the grass season should be longer. And it should be hard courts rather than clay that take the hit. 35% hard, 25% clay, 25% grass, 15% indoor carpet - the last idiotically phased out by the ATP - would be far more balanced & better for the players' health than the rubbishy season we have now.

this

Selby
06-10-2010, 08:41 PM
You know what, when the grass is so slow like nowadays, it doesn't even matter anymore...

born_on_clay
06-10-2010, 09:17 PM
oh yes, it should

Persimmon
06-10-2010, 09:19 PM
Yup.

raahaat7
06-11-2010, 03:58 AM
gr8 thread this! Thanx M.T.F, for providing us wd d plateform to air our veiws!

Pirata.
06-11-2010, 04:39 AM
35% hard, 25% clay, 25% grass, 15% indoor carpet - the last idiotically phased out by the ATP - would be far more balanced & better for the players' health than the rubbishy season we have now.

This, this, a million times this.

Action Jackson
06-11-2010, 04:47 AM
ATP are clowns and yes grass courts are lot more expensive to maintain than hardcourts.

As blaze said, minimal investment for maximum profit therefore hardcourts rule the way.

raahaat7
06-11-2010, 05:12 AM
ATP are clowns and yes grass courts are lot more expensive to maintain than hardcourts.

As blaze said, minimal investment for maximum profit therefore hardcourts rule the way.

Alas! Profit is the only motive left in sport. Time for another revulution?

Lopez
06-11-2010, 06:12 AM
It all comes back to the money.

Funny how the world revolves around paper with numbers on them.

Yeah what a bitch that money.

Hope that it would never have been invented.

:lol: ;)

Sophocles
06-11-2010, 09:35 AM
Yeah what a bitch that money.

Hope that it would never have been invented.

:lol: ;)

Like fire, it's a wonderful servant but a terrible master.

JanKowalski
06-11-2010, 10:07 AM
It can't be that hard to maintain or grass courts wouldn't have preponderated for the best part of the last century.

Of course the grass season should be longer. And it should be hard courts rather than clay that take the hit. 35% hard, 25% clay, 25% grass, 15% indoor carpet - the last idiotically phased out by the ATP - would be far more balanced & better for the players' health than the rubbishy season we have now.

:yeah:

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 10:25 AM
Ideally it would be Halle, Queens Masters and Wimbledon.

The clay season could be shortened to Monte-Carlo, Madrid and RG.

One of the hard court tournaments can also be scrapped. Miami maybe.

Clay is already a short season when looking to how different it is from other surfaces.
Grass could be longer, while hard courts shorter.

nobama
06-11-2010, 10:56 AM
Personally, I love watching grass tennis. Its just so much smoother than the other surfaces, and IMO is tennis at its most fun to watch.

Why therefore is it the shortest part of the year? Why can't we do away with a few hardcourt tournaments and extend the grass season?Where would you fit it in? Unless you think Wimbledon or RG are willing to change their spot in the calendar? :confused:

nobama
06-11-2010, 10:57 AM
Clay is already a short season when looking to how different it is from other surfaces.
Grass could be longer, while hard courts shorter. yep, gotta save Nadal's knees :sad:

Commander Data
06-11-2010, 11:14 AM
Yes. the game gets more and more uniform. more fast grass courts would counter-act that.

bjurra
06-11-2010, 11:16 AM
Grass is for cows. I hate grass tennis and cant wait for the season to be over.

tommyg6
06-07-2011, 03:20 AM
it only last 5 weeks and not even a month after Roland Garros, Wimbledon begins. That's pretty short,imo.


Here's my idea...
I say we have a grass season that last at least 2 months and also speed up all the grass courts to bring
back the serve and volleyers.

* new event
June
Week 1 - Gerry Weber Open - Halle, Germany
- Aegon Championships - London, UK
Week 2 - Eastbourne Open - Eastbourne, UK
- Unicef Open - Netherlands
Week 3 - Hall of Fame Open - Newport, USA
- Bermuda Open* - Bermuda
Week 4 - Scottish Open*,- Edinburgh, UK
- Luxembourg Open* - Luxembourg
July
Week 1 - Tennis Masters Series Canada (grass)- Toronto, Canada
Week 2 - Irish Open* - Dublin, Ireland
Week 3 - Wimbledon - London, UK
Week 4 - Wimbledon - London, UK

This way we can have a grass tennis masters series event and a decent amount of grass court events. I say we turn tennis masters series canada into a grass court event. I'm a big advocate of grass court tennis played like real grass court tennis. I want a longer grass court season to bring back more serve and volleyers into the game. Michael Llodra, Ruben Ramirez Hildago, Radek Stepanek (to some extent) as the only players to play serve and volley into the top 100 is unacceptable. I want all grass courts event conditioned to super fast speeds and the fastest events on the ATP schedule.

any thoughts?

MaxPower
06-07-2011, 07:22 AM
It can't be that hard to maintain or grass courts wouldn't have preponderated for the best part of the last century.

Maybe more common today that the courts are used almost day and night for practice, kids tournaments etc and it wears them down. Back in the day when grass was at it's biggest I guess tennis was more of a "rich man's sport" and the courts weren't under as much pressure

Of course the grass season should be longer. And it should be hard courts rather than clay that take the hit. 35% hard, 25% clay, 25% grass, 15% indoor carpet - the last idiotically phased out by the ATP - would be far more balanced & better for the players' health than the rubbishy season we have now.

Agree but I don't mind clay taking a hit. Clay should lose one big tournament to grass instead. Maybe demote a master 1000 to a 500. Upgrade Queens to a 500 and Halle to a 500

A few outdoor hardcourt tournaments (enough of them already!) should be indoor carpet instead
Carpet pretty much died. Dunno what kind of conspiracy that was but it's very nice surface

Pirata.
06-07-2011, 07:26 AM
Ditch Indian Wells. All the old rich white people in California can easily afford to travel to US Open if they want to see some tennis and if they can't, they can watch it on TV like the rest of us peons :shrug:

And shorten Miami to one week, tell Monte Carlo to take a hike to the French Open (or downgrade it to a 500, the view is very pretty) Then force the French Open to move back a couple weeks or they will be demoted to a futures event.

Then we can extend the grass season. Put a grass 250 in a coastal area in Greece. Kythira would be lovely.

Action Jackson
06-07-2011, 07:30 AM
Agree but I don't mind clay taking a hit. Clay should lose one big tournament to grass instead. Maybe demote a master 1000 to a 500. Upgrade Queens to a 500 and Halle to a 500

A few outdoor hardcourt tournaments (enough of them already!) should be indoor carpet instead
Carpet pretty much died. Dunno what kind of conspiracy that was but it's very nice surface

Don't be naughty most of the major events are on hardcourts, they're the ones that need to be eliminated before grass could be extended.

MaxPower
06-07-2011, 07:59 AM
Don't be naughty most of the major events are on hardcourts, they're the ones that need to be eliminated before grass could be extended.

Yeah but got to live with the fact that Wimbledon won't move an inch. And I like the idea of the 2 weeks of Wimbledon ending the grass season. Grass tournaments past Wimbledon would feel a bit boring. Could be challengers and futures then.

I liked Slumpdascos suggestions of moving/shortening one of Miami/Indian wells and demoting a clay master and moving the FO like 2 weeks earlier. Gives time for more rest and also the upgrade to at least ATP500 for Queens at least. Maybe even a grass master 1000

Part of the long outdoor hc part, especially some tournaments after US Open, should be indoor carpet instead. And then comes the "fifth" slam with the WTF (as it should be and will be in the future but with some changes!) that should be indoors but not necessarily carpet.

But yeah one can only dream of a season that awesome.

tommyg6
12-23-2011, 12:37 PM
Is it because it's expensive to have grass for surface?

finishingmove
12-23-2011, 12:39 PM
The cows are hungry

leng jai
12-23-2011, 12:40 PM
Too pretentious

nalbyfan
12-23-2011, 12:40 PM
Soooo boring

Chirag
12-23-2011, 12:54 PM
Ditch Indian Wells. All the old rich white people in California can easily afford to travel to US Open if they want to see some tennis and if they can't, they can watch it on TV like the rest of us peons :shrug:

And shorten Miami to one week, tell Monte Carlo to take a hike to the French Open (or downgrade it to a 500, the view is very pretty) Then force the French Open to move back a couple weeks or they will be demoted to a futures event.

Then we can extend the grass season. Put a grass 250 in a coastal area in Greece. Kythira would be lovely.

I agree about ditching those pointless events in Indian wells and Miami but French Open and Wimbledon will never move ,But since grass is now like clay ,whats the point of extending it

nalbyfan
12-23-2011, 12:59 PM
No .

Ace , ace , short rally, ace, volley, ace , ace , non returned serve, ace, decent rally, ace is quite boring.

Yes it's a highlight of boring game especially when goat cheese plays and wins

nobama
12-23-2011, 02:16 PM
Ditch IW even though it has some of the biggest crowds (I believe second only to the slams). :rolleyes: Make IW and Miami one week but I still don't know how that gives you a longer grass season when RG and Wimbledon have fixed dates on the calendar. :confused:

nobama
12-23-2011, 02:19 PM
I agree about ditching those pointless events in Indian wells and Miami but French Open and Wimbledon will never move ,But since grass is now like clay ,whats the point of extending it
Exactly. RG and Wimbledon aren't budging so getting rid of IW and Miami won't give you a longer grass season. And as far as being pointless, that's a matter of opinion. I personally think the clay events after Wimbledon are pointless but I'm sure many here would disagree.

Slice Winner
12-23-2011, 03:17 PM
No .

Ace , ace , short rally, ace, volley, ace , ace , non returned serve, ace, decent rally, ace is quite boring.

It's no longer the 90s, mate.

Chirag
12-23-2011, 03:22 PM
Exactly. RG and Wimbledon aren't budging so getting rid of IW and Miami won't give you a longer grass season. And as far as being pointless, that's a matter of opinion. I personally think the clay events after Wimbledon are pointless but I'm sure many here would disagree.
those clay events are pointless too .Any after the main one is .Same for newport which really is there for the HOF rather than the tennis event :o

My problem with Indian wells and Miami is they dont lead to any big event .They are actually after the main one which mattered and more of softening the blow for the guys who lost or giving the winner more in your face celebrations rather than a warm up which every other masters 1000 event is .

I mean if Murray had beaten Nole at IW and Miami this year would it really have mattered since he was crushed at the AO just a few weeks back .Had he pulled such a performance he would have cursed himself for not pulling it earlier rather than being confident about the big one :)

Gabe32
12-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Definitely should be longer. It is strange that the biggest tournament of the sport has such a small season attached to it. It does seem impossible though since RG and Wimbledon are pretty set in stone on the calendar.

By the way, does anyone know if the grass used in Newport is the same as the kind used at Wimbledon?? I was watching the final this morning.

Super Djoker
12-23-2011, 04:12 PM
I agree about ditching those pointless events in Indian wells and Miami but French Open and Wimbledon will never move ,But since grass is now like clay ,whats the point of extending it

Really? high bouncing! Does Nadal need to volley to win the French? Do you need a good drop shot to win on grass! No! Grass was slowed down to avoid things like isner Mahut matches! Stop moaning about Grass being slow guys! Your idiots! On the matter thought! Miami should be scrapped and Madrid and Barcelona ! Should bring the french forward a bit and have a new grass court masters sometime after Wimbledon I think with dropping either Cincenatti or Montreal!

Logical
12-23-2011, 05:00 PM
I agree about ditching those pointless events in Indian wells and Miami but French Open and Wimbledon will never move ,But since grass is now like clay ,whats the point of extending itGrass is now clay because Fedull can't win:spit: Grass needed slowing down because Rackets technology increased since 2000 and serves cannot be returned in very fast surface:wavey: Mugprass served powerful with old racket and he was very hard to return.He,Henman and Ivanisevic made wimbledon boring.New rakctes will kill Wimbledon if not slowed down.

Looner
12-23-2011, 05:35 PM
^^^
And another example of fine Nadaltardism right here. Ban him so he can rest in peace in his cave!

tommyg6
12-23-2011, 05:47 PM
Grass is now clay because Fedull can't win:spit: Grass needed slowing down because Rackets technology increased since 2000 and serves cannot be returned in very fast surface:wavey: Mugprass served powerful with old racket and he was very hard to return.He,Henman and Ivanisevic made wimbledon boring.New rakctes will kill Wimbledon if not slowed down.

Goran didn't make Wimbledon boring, especially during his 2001 emotional run to the finals. Almost everyone on MTF voted that final as one of the best ever.

HKz
12-23-2011, 07:58 PM
Clay is already a short season when looking to how different it is from other surfaces.
Grass could be longer, while hard courts shorter.

Other surfaces? Stop being so damn naive and actually open your eyes. Outdoor hardcourt is the only surface that has more tournaments than clay. You have the South American clay season, the regular clay season, and the post-Wimbledon clay season. Don't tell me clay is short.

tommyg6
12-23-2011, 08:08 PM
Other surfaces? Stop being so damn naive and actually open your eyes. Outdoor hardcourt is the only surface that has more tournaments than clay. You have the South American clay season, the regular clay season, and the post-Wimbledon clay season. Don't tell me clay is short.

That's the spirit. I never liked clay.

nobama
12-24-2011, 01:27 AM
those clay events are pointless too .Any after the main one is .Same for newport which really is there for the HOF rather than the tennis event :o

My problem with Indian wells and Miami is they dont lead to any big event .They are actually after the main one which mattered and more of softening the blow for the guys who lost or giving the winner more in your face celebrations rather than a warm up which every other masters 1000 event is .

I mean if Murray had beaten Nole at IW and Miami this year would it really have mattered since he was crushed at the AO just a few weeks back .Had he pulled such a performance he would have cursed himself for not pulling it earlier rather than being confident about the big one :)
Doesn't matter to me b/c I don't think every event has to lead up to something big. If they did than for sure the clay events after Wimbledon would need to go.

kafkavert
12-24-2011, 01:32 AM
Personally, I love watching grass tennis. Its just so much smoother than the other surfaces, and IMO is tennis at its most fun to watch.

Why therefore is it the shortest part of the year? Why can't we do away with a few hardcourt tournaments and extend the grass season?

ATP and pushers have a love story. They hate anything fast.

MIMIC
12-24-2011, 01:35 AM
It WILL be longer next year ;)

But as for permanently lengthening it: I guess if you turn one of the many HC Masters into a grass Masters (or replace it), it might work. Maybe it could look something like this:

*RG*

-----

Halle/Queens
*Wimbledon*
Cincinnati replaced with grass Masters, scheduled BEFORE Canada Masters

-----

HC 250s/500s
Canada Masters
HC 250s
*U.S. Open*

Topspindoctor
12-24-2011, 01:37 AM
They should get rid of some of the mug North American events in favor of more grass. Hard courts are dull as hell. :o

Slice Winner
12-24-2011, 01:44 AM
They should get rid of some of the mug North American events in favor of more grass. Hard courts are dull as hell. :o

So surprised am I to see sense coming from you that I will assume it's trolling.

kafkavert
12-24-2011, 01:44 AM
It should be eliminated, all our tournaments should be converted to clay and we should have two clay slams.

Pushers Pigs would love two slams in the mud lol So much for 5th world tennis lol

@Sweet Cleopatra
12-24-2011, 02:02 AM
Other surfaces? Stop being so damn naive and actually open your eyes. Outdoor hardcourt is the only surface that has more tournaments than clay. You have the South American clay season, the regular clay season, and the post-Wimbledon clay season. Don't tell me clay is short.

huh oldy thread, it's always a pleasure to see my useful old contributions in general tennis that unfortunately no one listens to it. My English was so bad though.

Any way, I said elongate the grass season but not in the expense of clay season. Because Natural courts are the real tennis, it's also good for the health of players to play more on natural courts, good for youngsters to train on natural courts because it let them train real tennis instead of ping-pong tennis only.

Pirata.
12-24-2011, 03:49 AM
Cincy is the only fast outdoor tournament left, should get rid of Indian Wells, retirement community full of rich old folks :o

Smiling Buddha
12-24-2011, 04:21 AM
Turn Queen's into a Masters 1000.

nobama
12-24-2011, 05:37 PM
Cincy is the only fast outdoor tournament left, should get rid of Indian Wells, retirement community full of rich old folks :o
So? What's s great about Mason, Ohio? At least IW has beautiful scenery. And I've been to that event 6 times and I can tell you there's more tha just rich retired people who attend the event. :rolleyes: but they certainly could speed up IW. RG is probably faster than IW right now. :o

nobama
12-24-2011, 05:39 PM
Turn Queen's into a Masters 1000.
Yes because one city deserves a slam, the year ending championships and a masters 1000. :o

swisht4u
12-24-2011, 07:02 PM
Every surface should have at least one masters.
They should add one for grass, but I'm guessing this has been looked at for many years and probably comes down to location, money and scheduling.

Smiling Buddha
12-24-2011, 09:30 PM
Yes because one city deserves a slam, the year ending championships and a masters 1000. :o

What other significant cities are there in Great Britain? Living in a country with 1 slam, 3 masters 1000s, 2 ATP 500s and 7 ATP 250s, I did not think that would be a problem. :p

Turn Halle into a Masters 1000 instead if that makes you any happier. I said Queen's only because it already has a 48 draw.

HKz
12-24-2011, 09:42 PM
Cincy is the only fast outdoor tournament left, should get rid of Indian Wells, retirement community full of rich old folks :o

No, it is the closest big event near me. It would kill me.

Mr.Michael
12-25-2011, 02:47 AM
I will say it again. Bring back grass court tennis in Australia. Then we would have two grass court seasons like back in the day. And as a bonus they could use the old stadiums like White City in Sydney, Memorial Drive in Adelaide and of course Kooyong in Melbourne. Just imagine a GS played at Kooyong. I can assure you, no Djokovic-Nadal finals like the one in Wimbledon.

nobama
12-25-2011, 05:27 AM
What other significant cities are there in Great Britain? Living in a country with 1 slam, 3 masters 1000s, 2 ATP 500s and 7 ATP 250s, I did not think that would be a problem. :p

Turn Halle into a Masters 1000 instead if that makes you any happier. I said Queen's only because it already has a 48 draw.
I dunno I guess I compare Europe as a whole with North America. Besides even though there are many events in North America it's not like they're easy to get to for everyone. The closest event from where I live is Cincy and by car that's 12+ hours away.

Action Jackson
12-25-2011, 06:47 AM
I will say it again. Bring back grass court tennis in Australia. Then we would have two grass court seasons like back in the day. And as a bonus they could use the old stadiums like White City in Sydney, Memorial Drive in Adelaide and of course Kooyong in Melbourne. Just imagine a GS played at Kooyong. I can assure you, no Djokovic-Nadal finals like the one in Wimbledon.

I will say it again, you are dreaming.

Mr.Michael
12-25-2011, 03:46 PM
I will say it again, you are dreaming.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious, isn't it?

The tour would be a lot more interesting, but we just have to accept that propably all tournaments will be played on slow hard courts maybe around 2020.

echf
12-26-2011, 11:24 AM
What a stupid post. Serve and volley is very exciting and enjoyable to watch. Aces are also fun to watch to, especially to see how many the players can get :D
What a stupid post. Serve and volley (not necessarily grass court tennis) is by far the dullest kind of tennis to watch. Aces are only fun if you hit them yourself; for spectators they are terribly boring.

That said, I agree the grass session should be longer, as long as it doesn't turn into a serve and volley contest.

nobama
12-27-2011, 11:21 AM
serve and volley tennis is dull? :spit:

Sonja1989
12-27-2011, 11:36 AM
Yes. :D

Serve and volley is very exciting and enjoyable to watch. Aces are also fun to watch to, especially to see how many the players can get :D

I agree with you but it's question of taste.

The_Aussie17
06-13-2012, 05:53 AM
Im new so not sure if this thread has been made sorry if it has, but in my oppinion European and South American players get way too much of an advantage over the rest of the world with the size of the clay court season and the amount of clay tournaments, i think the grass court season should be extended by atleast another two weeks in between Roland Garros and Wimbledon, and take away 1 week of clay court events between Aus Open and RG, then a couple of weeks prior to Indian Wells, take out the South American and Northern American tournaments in one week around that time, thoughts??

Topspindoctor
06-13-2012, 06:15 AM
Clay doesnt need to be shorter, get rid of some of the useless HC events instead.

Henry Chinaski
06-13-2012, 06:22 AM
in an ideal world, yes the grass season would be longer.

but realistically it's never going to happen for a number of reasons.

1. simple inertia. changing the calendar significantly is a nightmare. too many competing interests.
2. queen's and halle are happy with their 250 status. they know they will attract great fields because of their positions in the calendar. realistically they are the only 2 grass events capable of upgrades so if they're not lobbying for it then the idea is dead in the water.
3. lack of alternative options. there are very few grass venues in europe even capable of holding challengers let alone 250 events. that means there is nobody there to step up and try to challenge status quo. (obviously you can't hold a grass event in india or australia a couple of weeks before wimbledon)
4. most of the players these days are much more comfortable on hardcourts or clay than on grass so they're not likely to push for change either.

dencod16
06-13-2012, 06:47 AM
in an ideal world, yes the grass season would be longer.

but realistically it's never going to happen for a number of reasons.

1. simple inertia. changing the calendar significantly is a nightmare. too many competing interests.
2. queen's and halle are happy with their 250 status. they know they will attract great fields because of their positions in the calendar. realistically they are the only 2 grass events capable of upgrades so if they're not lobbying for it then the idea is dead in the water.
3. lack of alternative options. there are very few grass venues in europe even capable of holding challengers let alone 250 events. that means there is nobody there to step up and try to challenge status quo. (obviously you can't hold a grass event in india or australia a couple of weeks before wimbledon)
4. most of the players these days are much more comfortable on hardcourts or clay than on grass so they're not likely to push for change either.

Players have stated that they wanted more gap between French and Wimbledon in order to adapt better to the surface change.

The_Aussie17
06-13-2012, 07:19 AM
Clay doesnt need to be shorter, get rid of some of the useless HC events instead.

Nah i disagree heaps of the clay events are just crap entry lists and dud players win them, might aswell get rid of a few of them!

TigerTim
06-13-2012, 07:27 AM
The only way to do it is replace the Asian swing with grass tourneys. All the attacking players will go + guy's like Murray and Federer. It would also help players get used to faster conditions for the indoor season. Plus places like Japan and Aussie do have a few grass courts and knowledge of its tennis.

Week1:Japan 250 Grass
Week2:Bangkok 250 Grass, Malaysia 250 Grass
Week3:China 500 Hard, Japan 500 Grass
Week4:Masters 1000 (?) Grass
Week5: Singapore 250, Indonesian 250
Week6: Australian 500

would never happen though.

Mae
06-13-2012, 12:26 PM
The only reason there is any grass court season is because of Wimbledon.

BroTree123
06-13-2012, 12:32 PM
http://www.csportsfashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Nike-Dri-FIT-Kick-Some-Grass-Mens-Tennis-T-Shirt.jpg