B. Becker d. N. Davydenko 6-3, 6-4 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

B. Becker d. N. Davydenko 6-3, 6-4

andy neyer
06-10-2010, 05:01 PM
Kind of expected, I guess.

henke007
06-10-2010, 05:02 PM
Good Result

misty1
06-10-2010, 05:12 PM
davy:sad::sad:

alter ego
06-10-2010, 05:12 PM
:fiery:
The fuck Davy. Can you at least have one good grass season.

shadows
06-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Expected with Davy returning from injury and this being on grass.

philosophicalarf
06-10-2010, 05:23 PM
Hard matchup for Davy on grass.

Becker's form has been good lately too (despite the results, he's obviously very limited on clay but there were some good efforts).

Cloudygirl
06-10-2010, 05:36 PM
Kolya is the grass lord

alfonsojose
06-10-2010, 06:09 PM
He's back :yeah: :D

Corey Feldman
06-10-2010, 06:11 PM
Germans never let the home fans down

nole_no1
06-10-2010, 06:13 PM
Expected:yeah:

osalsyst
06-10-2010, 06:13 PM
Much like the King, Davy is resting for Wimby. Blown chance for Melzer

*Jean*
06-10-2010, 06:32 PM
Benjamin :yeah:

Jimnik
06-10-2010, 06:38 PM
Hope B.Becker can finally live up to his name.

viruzzz
06-10-2010, 07:27 PM
Hope B.Becker can finally live up to his name.

:worship:
True.

Filo V.
06-10-2010, 07:58 PM
The way Davydenko plays and the fact he's a small, slight guy really hurt his ability to perform at a high level on this surface. He has great timing but the low and inconsistent bounce and major skidding leads to him mishitting a lot. He doesn't move great on the surface and he doesn't serve well enough. His lack of true power makes him vulnerable to get out hit on this surface by power hitters like Becker.

Congrats to Ben on the good win!

Sophocles
06-10-2010, 08:02 PM
The way Davydenko plays and the fact he's a small, slight guy really hurt his ability to perform at a high level on this surface. He has great timing but the low and inconsistent bounce and major skidding leads to him mishitting a lot. He doesn't move great on the surface and he doesn't serve well enough. His lack of true power makes him vulnerable to get out hit on this surface by power hitters like Becker.

Congrats to Ben on the good win!

I still don't understand why he's so shite on grass & so good on every other surface, including carpet. Why does he, who after all is relatively short, takes the ball early, & has great timing, have more trouble with low skidding bounces than say Hewitt?

misty1
06-10-2010, 08:09 PM
even after this i still have confidence that he can have a good wimbledon

Filo V.
06-10-2010, 08:17 PM
I still don't understand why he's so shite on grass & so good on every other surface, including carpet. Why does he, who after all is relatively short, takes the ball early, & has great timing, have more trouble with low skidding bounces than say Hewitt?

Because he takes really aggressive cuts at the ball and because the bounce skids and stays low and doesn't always stay in his strikezone, he's prone to mishitting, reaching for balls and not getting in great position, and Lleyton has much more compact swings and is more of a counter-puncher than Davydenko is. Plus because he lacks true power it's easier to get on top of him on this surface and knock him back off the baseline, where he isn't effective.

Mjau!
06-10-2010, 08:44 PM
Yay! Vcash!

Har-Tru
06-10-2010, 08:47 PM
Was falling asleep, had to get out of the stadium.

Becker: boom!, Davy: out!

That's the summary of the match.

Orka_n
06-10-2010, 08:55 PM
Kolya :hug: Just get do your best at Wimbledon, champ.

born_on_clay
06-10-2010, 09:11 PM
Excellent result !!!

Sophocles
06-10-2010, 09:13 PM
Because he takes really aggressive cuts at the ball and because the bounce skids and stays low and doesn't always stay in his strikezone, he's prone to mishitting, reaching for balls and not getting in great position, and Lleyton has much more compact swings and is more of a counter-puncher than Davydenko is. Plus because he lacks true power it's easier to get on top of him on this surface and knock him back off the baseline, where he isn't effective.

Okay, so it's his aggressive swing basically (which presumably has less margin for error than say Federer's more spinny shot). Thanks.

Topspin Forehand
06-11-2010, 12:28 AM
The good thing is Davydenko is back. He will peak in the hardcourt season.

tennisfan856
06-11-2010, 12:40 AM
I am concerned about Davydenko because I think he is rushing back from injury. I dug this up from the Halle website.



Welcome back. We missed you at Roland Garros? Are you fine with your wrist?
DAVYDENKO: Yes, I was before to decide if I can come like play Nice and then Paris. But I was not ready, really. I felt pain before Nice and before one week I needed to retire before Paris. Thatís what I decided because to start the first tournament with a Grand Slam is very difficult, five set matches. I was hoping that the recovery would be faster and faster. I was waiting like starting from Rome, Estoril, everything. I always have the feeling that the recovery goes so slow. Now, after Paris, I was practicing on clay and then I decided to start from Halle. It was risky because grass court is not so easy for my wrist.

Why isnít it easy for your wrist?
DAVYDENKO: Because it was broken and I really donít have so much power. Itís still not really recovered. Last weekís MRT showed itís still not so good my wrist. But I said, okay I have no pain. Itís my decision and I go to Halle. It doesnít matter itís okay my wrist or not. I will try and weíll see.

coonster14
06-11-2010, 01:19 AM
expected, kolya has never had good results on grass.

emotion
06-11-2010, 10:05 AM
Dammit, Davy. Good job, Benni. I watched a bit and it was a good match, Becker's huge serve and nice groundstrokes on display. For a grass court, Kolya didn't play too badly...

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-11-2010, 10:29 AM
This is sad. Hope Davy can get better.

oranges
06-11-2010, 10:57 AM
I still don't understand why he's so shite on grass & so good on every other surface, including carpet. Why does he, who after all is relatively short, takes the ball early, & has great timing, have more trouble with low skidding bounces than say Hewitt?

I know people love the more technical explanations, but it's really primarily movement. The difference between his movement on clay or hard and on grass would cause a huge dip even for someone less reliant on top notch movement and footwork, let alone Kolya who's game falls apart without it.

zeleni
06-11-2010, 11:08 AM
Davy will be fine for hard court season.

Kolya
06-11-2010, 12:38 PM
He lost to Becker at Wimbledon before so its no surprise.

Good for German-Russian relations.

Another RogFan
06-11-2010, 01:12 PM
He lost to Becker at Wimbledon before so its no surprise.

Good for German-Russian relations.

But not so good for Russian - German one.:cool:

leng jai
06-11-2010, 01:55 PM
I know people love the more technical explanations, but it's really primarily movement. The difference between his movement on clay or hard and on grass would cause a huge dip even for someone less reliant on top notch movement and footwork, let alone Kolya who's game falls apart without it.

Simple deduction shows you it has to be footwork/movement. Its not like grass is being dominated by volleyers these days, so really the biggest difference between it and other courts is traction followed by the bounce. Most players who have poor results on grass simply can't move on the surface. See Del Pony, Kolya and co trying to move is comical at best.