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Queens: Murray def. I. Navaro pastor 7-6, 6-3.

raahaat7
06-08-2010, 07:13 PM
good start on grass.

rocketassist
06-08-2010, 07:15 PM
First set no, second set yes.

Navarro is quality- great style.

FormerRafaFan
06-08-2010, 07:34 PM
First set no, second set yes.

Navarro is quality- great style.

I agree. I was impressed by Navarro today, especially in the firt set. That being said, Andy's victory was never in doubt. He is still good on grass, even though he had some issues with the knee today.

Corey Feldman
06-08-2010, 07:35 PM
Navarro the best spanish player ive ever seen, thats for sure

ChuckNorrisFan
06-08-2010, 07:39 PM
Yeah it's nice to see a S&Volleyer nowadays but lets face it, the guy it's just not good enough to play this style

Fedicilous
06-08-2010, 07:43 PM
Navarro is nice to watch, Murray played average, but in my opinion he is not enough to beat Nadal at this moment.
He needs to improve his game in all departments.

Ad Wim
06-08-2010, 07:59 PM
Great points by Murray in the TB, stood there when he needed to. Has to up his game though, if he wants to win this.

Filo V.
06-08-2010, 08:52 PM
Murray didn't play amazing, got much better by the tiebreak and especially the start and end of the second set. Playing an S&V, aggressive player in his first match on grass was always going to be tough, Navarro played very well in set 1 and served nicely, Andy didn't quite have the timing down with the return and his knee wasn't 100% but he did enough.

He'll play better in his next match I'm sure, but he will need to pick it up if he plays Fish in R3.

Machiavelli
06-08-2010, 08:53 PM
Dreadful stuff, if this wannabe champ is one of the faves for Wimbledon, then tennisis pure comedy nowadays...

sheva07
06-08-2010, 08:56 PM
This Navarro is good on grass. Much better to see than Mugray and all those other defensive clowns.

Har-Tru
06-08-2010, 09:18 PM
Yeah it's nice to see a S&Volleyer nowadays but lets face it, the guy it's just not good enough to play this style

Would it better for him to be another of the 88957436734876 baseliners, seeing how he's short, slow, and has an unimpressive forehand and a weak backhand?

He'd be in the 300s if he played like that.

Funny this recent idea that you have to be a top 50 player to play S&V.

ChuckNorrisFan
06-08-2010, 09:24 PM
Would it better for him to be another of the 88957436734876 baseliners, seeing how he's short, slow, and has an unimpressive forehand and a weak backhand?

He'd be in the 300s if he played like that.

Funny this recent idea that you have to be a top 50 player to play S&V.

No, but you need talent. It's the hardest style to play in my opinion.

Har-Tru
06-08-2010, 09:28 PM
No, but you need talent. It's the hardest style to play in my opinion.

Perhaps you're right, you need more technical talent to play that style.

But about Navarro, would he be better off playing another way?

scarecrows
06-08-2010, 09:30 PM
I agree. I was impressed by Navarro today, especially in the firt set. That being said, Andy's victory was never in doubt. He is still good on grass, even though he had some issues with the knee today.

well, Navarro did have a few SPs and had he won the first you never know what would happen

ChuckNorrisFan
06-08-2010, 09:43 PM
Perhaps you're right, you need more technical talent to play that style.

But about Navarro, would he be better off playing another way?

Don't get me wrong, I kind of admire Navarro for his courage to play S&V. It's just I don't think he has the game. For instance, think about Feliciano Lopez, he has a big serve, can volley, he's tall...but Navarro with that serve and everything...I don't think so.

Mjau!
06-08-2010, 10:12 PM
For a while there I thought Murray was playing uncle Toni.

The Magician
06-08-2010, 10:15 PM
Too bad Navarro never turned that mini-run at the USO and that great match against Dent into something bigger. Would make the Spanish ATP events watchable :o

malisha
06-08-2010, 10:56 PM
Muzza:help:

Navarro spectacular as always:worship:

malisha
06-08-2010, 11:08 PM
Playing an S&V, aggressive player in his first match on grass was always going to be tough,

not for Murray though

Murray made it look tough with his shitty performance

Filo V.
06-09-2010, 02:46 AM
not for Murray though

Murray made it look tough with his shitty performance

Yeah.

Persimmon
06-09-2010, 03:12 AM
:wazzup:What's the problem with Murray's knee?

Ibracadabra
06-09-2010, 04:18 AM
Supposedly his knee is split or some shit, been like that for years alledgedly. Reason why when he loses a point he grasps it. But when he wins a point he has the physical stature of federer. Load of bullshit if you ask me.

Forehander
06-09-2010, 06:23 AM
Just because this guy is playing the now rare serve and volleyer doesn't mean it's great style if it's shit and doesn't work. Mug match.

Mjau!
06-09-2010, 01:07 PM
Supposedly his knee is split or some shit, been like that for years alledgedly. Reason why when he loses a point he grasps it. But when he wins a point he has the physical stature of federer. Load of bullshit if you ask me.

When Murray's knee hurts, he occasionally loses a point. When Murray is healthy, he wins every point. It's really simple logic actually.

angry1
06-09-2010, 02:15 PM
Supposedly his knee is split or some shit, been like that for years alledgedly. Reason why when he loses a point he grasps it. But when he wins a point he has the physical stature of federer. Load of bullshit if you ask me.

Calling someone a liar because you don't like him is really charming.

It's been reported loads of times he has a congenital knee defect which acts up when he changes surfaces.It first came to light when he missed junior slams with a knee injury,I believe.The Federer dig is ironic after his comments about being injured when losing matches(which he didn't care about anyway)to Murray.

The fact that he starts prodding and moaning more when he's struggling is a separate issue.He still fusses at his lower back and knee a bit in any match people just don't moan about it.It's hardly unique to act up when losing and he doesn't often,if ever use his knee as an excuse for losing.

angry1
06-09-2010, 02:21 PM
When Murray's knee hurts, he occasionally loses a point. When Murray is healthy, he wins every point. It's really simple logic actually.

In terms of his knee he's never truly healthy,although in many people his condition is asymptomatic,it still counts as unhealthy IMO.

He's had it long enough it's no excuse unless it really flares up unexpectedly though.This is particularly true at slams as he is never playing his 1st tournament after switching surfaces.

I realise you were joking I just wanted to make the point anyway.

Sapeod
06-09-2010, 02:23 PM
Great win Andy. On your way to your first title of the year. No pressure, easy match next round.

born_on_clay
06-09-2010, 02:59 PM
too solid from the Scot

Roddickominator
06-09-2010, 11:42 PM
The tennis gods cry every time a mug pusher beats a S&V player....especially on grass. Why do you torment the gods, Andrew Murray?

rocketassist
06-10-2010, 12:57 AM
The tennis gods cry every time a mug pusher beats a S&V player....especially on grass. Why do you torment the gods, Andrew Murray?

yeye, what a shame when Roddick beat Mahut/Karlovic/Stepanek and the rest

raahaat7
06-10-2010, 09:38 AM
Great win Andy. On your way to your first title of the year. No pressure, easy match next round.

Same

Lopez
06-10-2010, 10:20 AM
When Murray's knee hurts, he occasionally loses a point. When Murray is healthy, he wins every point. It's really simple logic actually.

:worship:

I hope that this awesome quote gets a life of its own :yeah: