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Wimbledon 2010 : Early Discussions

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 10:31 PM
wimbledon is around the corner. so who are the favorites for wimbledon 2010 championships?

the floor is all yours. have at it. who has the edge going in and who does not?

Luinir
06-06-2010, 10:31 PM
Fedal final is coming.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 10:33 PM
what about roddick and murray? and the great serbian slayer (djokovic)?

Certinfy
06-06-2010, 10:36 PM
Roddick wins it ;)

Murray and Djokovic go out before SF.

Berdych and Soderling make at least the QF.

rocketassist
06-06-2010, 10:46 PM
One of four men could win it, but with two ahead of the other two.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 10:47 PM
ok so jase is picking roddick to snatch the title.

depending on the draw, here is what the semifinal picture may look like from my vantage point:

1. semifinal #1: murrray vs clay warrior

2. semifinal #2: fed vs roddick

out_here_grindin
06-06-2010, 10:48 PM
I wonder if there will be any Melzer's. Players who come out of nowhere to reach a semifinal or quarter.

luie
06-06-2010, 10:49 PM
ok so jase is picking roddick to snatch the title.

depending on the draw, here is what the semifinal picture may look like from my vantage point:

1. semifinal #1: murrray vs clay warrior

2. semifinal #2: fed vs roddick
Unlike 2008 if nadull meets Murray,he will lose Murray is more mature & has his # of clay.:D

rocketassist
06-06-2010, 10:49 PM
These guys would be considered 'dangerous floaters' that the contenders would want to avoid on grass (bar Fed who I think would take them all):

I Karlovic (CRO)
T Haas (USA)
J-W Tsonga (FRA)
R Gasquet (FRA)
R Soderling (SWE)

superslam77
06-06-2010, 10:50 PM
1.Federer
2.Roddick
3.Nadal
4.Soderking
5.Murray
6.Nole
7.Nando

Grass is going to be very fast this year.

Frooty_Bazooty
06-06-2010, 10:52 PM
I wonder if there will be any Melzer's. Players who come out of nowhere to reach a semifinal or quarter.

if there is, its most likely to come from Djokovics quarter. also there should be a surprise quarterfinalist who takes Davydenko's QF place

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 10:55 PM
it does not matter how fast it is. expect the so called clay court players to do well there.


and dont be surprised if the clay warrior runs over somebody in the final. he can play on grass too. the title belongs to either fed or nadal and right now, nadal will be the heavy favorite for the title.

and there is more: you can run but you cannot hide. he will be targeting the u.s. open this year also.

ossie
06-06-2010, 10:57 PM
nadal takes it in a fedal final and it wont go to 5 sets this time

superslam77
06-06-2010, 10:57 PM
You may be getting carried away with the result old sport. congratulations btw.

Let's see what happens? At least on grass there's competition to be seen.

Mjau!
06-06-2010, 11:00 PM
The following 5 players can actually win it.

Federer
Nadal
Roddick
Murray
Söderling

Djokovic is a total grass mug. His movement is worse and that's such an important part of his game.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:00 PM
You may be getting carried away with the result old sport. congratulations btw.

Let's see what happens? At least on grass there's competition to be seen.

actually there is less competition on grass super sport super slam. fed and nadal are the best. the rest are not in their class, shall we say.

murray has a lot to prove. djokovic is in a slump. and fed renders roddick useless every time he runs into him.

Mjau!
06-06-2010, 11:01 PM
These guys would be considered 'dangerous floaters' that the contenders would want to avoid on grass (bar Fed who I think would take them all):

I Karlovic (CRO)
T Haas (USA)
J-W Tsonga (FRA)
R Gasquet (FRA)
R Soderling (SWE)

I would add Hewitt. He looked good vs Rafa at RG and knows his grass. Maybe Melzer too if his good form continues.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:02 PM
The following 5 players can actually win it.

Federer
Nadal
Roddick
Murray
Söderling

Djokovic is a total grass mug. His movement is worse and that's such an important part of his game.

Mjau why be so difficult?

i need to see you at the castle. we can have some extended discussions there. also make some friends while you are there. the more the merrier.

superslam77
06-06-2010, 11:02 PM
I disagree.

They have been taken to 4-5 sets quite often. Fed is the favorite but i wouldn't be surprised if he lost. That's pretty much it.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:04 PM
I disagree.

They have been taken to 4-5 sets quite often. Fed is the favorite but i wouldn't be surprised if he lost. That's pretty much it.

so who is winning it if fed loses.

who has the very best shot if fed loses?

luie
06-06-2010, 11:06 PM
so who is winning it if fed loses.

who has the very best shot if fed loses?
Murray,Roddick,Gulbis--before nadull.

NadalSharapova
06-06-2010, 11:09 PM
Nadal is the best grass courter. Federer used to be the best grass courter (2003-2007)

superslam77
06-06-2010, 11:10 PM
so who is winning it if fed loses.

who has the very best shot if fed loses?

Depends the speed.

2008 Nadal
if 2010 is fast then Roddick,Soderling,Nole then Nadal.

tennishero
06-06-2010, 11:11 PM
probably nadal will win.. federer might fall in the quarters or semis again.
hewitt should have a good run, gulbis too.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:12 PM
Murray,Roddick,Gulbis--before nadull.



murray`s best surface is hard courts.

e-gul is inconsistent and may still have some injury issues. roddick is done. he may make the semis and that is being very generous.

clay warrior is he best player on the planet. fed is very dominant on grass.

why dont you go try some other sport old sport? perhaps hot dog eating contests might work for you since it is clear that the current state of tennis is eating away at your soul.

go save yourself.

luie
06-06-2010, 11:13 PM
Nadal is the best grass courter. Federer used to be the best grass courter (2003-2007)
This title is Murrays to lose if he meets nadull anywhere in the draw but I agree,that fed is a bit older but still a force.

NadalSharapova
06-06-2010, 11:15 PM
This title is Murrays to lose if he meets nadull anywhere in the draw but I agree,that fed is a bit older but still a force.

Some people are clay court specialists, some grass, some hardcourt. Murray is crap on all surfaces LOL

luie
06-06-2010, 11:16 PM
murray`s best surface is hard courts.

e-gul is inconsistent and may still have some injury issues. roddick is done. he may make the semis and that is being very generous.

clay warrior is he best player on the planet. fed is very dominant on grass.

why dont you go try some other sport old sport? perhaps hot dog eating contests might work for you since it is clear that the current state of tennis is eating away at your soul.

go save yourself.
Nadull is the best clay courter on the planet because in the land of the blind the 1-eyed man is king. However on grass & HC the tall 2 handed bh players will dismantle him,he will be powerless to overcome such adversity.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
Nadull is the best clay courter on the planet because in the land of the blind the 1-eyed man is king. However on grass & HC the tall 2 handed bh players will dismantle him,he will be powerless to overcome such adversity.

right. just like your prediction that sodelring would hit through nadal and destroy him at roland garros.

it was a nice prayer old sport.

keep up those prayers. ther are amusing and soon you can be the head village comedian.

luie
06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
Some people are clay court specialists, some grass, some hardcourt. Murray is crap on all surfaces LOL
He beat nadull 2 times on HC,its only a matter of time before he translate that success to grass.

superslam77
06-06-2010, 11:21 PM
right. just like your prediction that sodelring would hit through nadal and destroy him at roland garros.

it was a nice prayer old sport.

keep up those prayers. ther are amusing and soon you can be the head village comedian.

A prayer for DEATH that destroyed us Federeresians beyond comprehension. :o

NadalSharapova
06-06-2010, 11:22 PM
He beat nadull 2 times on HC,its only a matter of time before he translate that success to grass.

...and then do it on clay repeatedly and then win 15 majors:rolleyes:

guga2120
06-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Hopefully Murray, can get his sh!t together and do something big. It would be great to see Lleyton have a good run. He really outplayed Roddick, last year.

luie
06-06-2010, 11:24 PM
right. just like your prediction that sodelring would hit through nadal and destroy him at roland garros.

it was a nice prayer old sport.

keep up those prayers. ther are amusing and soon you can be the head village comedian.
I didn't expect SODERKING to be that fatigued,having a much tougher draw to the final than nadull,he played 4 sets against federer,5 against birdman. While nadull played his lap dog almugro & nobody melmug.
#2 I think soderking PARENTS had a little argument a while back that prevented soderling from being as focussed.
#3 soderking was injured earlier in the year an not properly recovered.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:27 PM
give it up Luie. soderling is not in fed`s or clay warrior`s class.

soderling is a nobody in the sport. fed and nadal are everything. their record speaks loud and clear.

misty1
06-06-2010, 11:27 PM
i think davydenko makes his first quarter final in wimbledon ever this year he's due for a good performance there.

also of these youngsters who are in the draw as wild cards or should get as qualifiers who do you see having the gabashvili/melzer run if anyone?:

kei nishikori
andrey kuznetsov
ricardas berankis
bernard tomic

i think berankis has the best shot at making a deep run

osmonde
06-06-2010, 11:30 PM
Talking Wimby, is anyone able to explain how they will seed players, I know they have a strange way of calculating; for ex: Nadal may not be seeded no:1...
which is different from other tourneys...

luie
06-06-2010, 11:30 PM
give it up Luie. soderling is not in fed`s or clay warrior`s class.

soderling is a nobody in the sport. fed and nadal are everything. their record speaks loud and clear.
OK .I hope to see them battle again @ wimby where Soderking took nadull to 5 tights sets.He is more mature now & hopefully he will have an easier draw be more FRESH to battle nadull.:)

guga2120
06-06-2010, 11:34 PM
Talking Wimby, is anyone able to explain how they will seed players, I know they have a strange way of calculating; for ex: Nadal may not be seeded no:1...
which is different from other tourneys...

He will be #1.

Roamed
06-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Talking Wimby, is anyone able to explain how they will seed players, I know they have a strange way of calculating; for ex: Nadal may not be seeded no:1...
which is different from other tourneys...

It's something like they add on the grass points from last year and 3/4 of the points from the year before. Worked it out earlier and I think the Top 10 would be in this order: Federer, Rafa, Murray, Djokovic, Roddick, Davydenko, Soderling, (Del Potro), Verdasco and Tsonga.

christinamarie
06-06-2010, 11:37 PM
They take into account your past Wimbledon tournaments I'm pretty sure. Nadal will probably still be 1 but I wouldn't be surprised if he's 2.

San Rosso
06-06-2010, 11:41 PM
I'm happy if we get to witness (half-)decent semi-finals this tournament.. If they consist of either Federer, Nadal, Murray, Del Potro, Djokovic, Davydenko, Roddick or Soderling I'm happy!

Manequin75
06-06-2010, 11:44 PM
I say

Semi finals

Fed vs roddick
Nadal vs dark horse (some guy having a killer tournament like melzer had in rg)

Finals. Roddick vs nadal

Winner nadal

christinamarie
06-06-2010, 11:47 PM
Oh god no, winner Roddick, I cannot watch him lose in the final yet again.

oranges
06-06-2010, 11:49 PM
These guys would be considered 'dangerous floaters' that the contenders would want to avoid on grass (bar Fed who I think would take them all):

I Karlovic (CRO)
T Haas (USA)
J-W Tsonga (FRA)
R Gasquet (FRA)
R Soderling (SWE)

I'm afraid you can scratch Haasi, he's a no show this year :sad:

ossie
06-06-2010, 11:52 PM
people should stop picking murray as a favourute to win slams until he actually wins one

Manequin75
06-06-2010, 11:54 PM
Well roddick will take positives - Atleast he beat federer on a big stage at wimbledon (his last years nemisis)
Awfully hard for roddick to beat fed and rafa back to back so i gave it to rafa......

But if he pulls it off more power to him - i like him and he deserves it.......

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:55 PM
OK .I hope to see them battle again @ wimby where Soderking took nadull to 5 tights sets.He is more mature now & hopefully he will have an easier draw be more FRESH to battle nadull.:)



when is d-pot (del potro) coming back? also is he ever going to amount to anything on grass?

Filo V.
06-06-2010, 11:56 PM
Roger and Rafa are far and ahead the clear favorites. The only other guy I give a chance at breaking that up is A-Rod. Murray will lose early, Nole isn't great on grass and none of the other players are good enough.

Clay Death
06-06-2010, 11:57 PM
people should stop picking murray as a favourute to win slams until he actually wins one

i like murray a lot but he has to show us that he can do some major damage at a slam. quite simply he needs to snatch one.

viruzzz
06-06-2010, 11:58 PM
Since 2004 Wimbledon has a name.
It would be a walk in the park for RF.

lurker
06-06-2010, 11:59 PM
it does not matter how fast it is. expect the so called clay court players to do well there.


and dont be surprised if the clay warrior runs over somebody in the final. he can play on grass too. the title belongs to either fed or nadal and right now, nadal will be the heavy favorite for the title.

and there is more: you can run but you cannot hide. he will be targeting the u.s. open this year also.

"See you at the U.S. Open!" said Nadal to Johnny Mac. No question he is eyeing the US Open THIS YEAR. SO much so that he may let Wimbledon get away from him. To win this, he MUST start serving better, like he did in 2008. His belief, ability to hold serve and mental strength along with his general game will carry him the rest of the way.

I would add Hewitt. He looked good vs Rafa at RG and knows his grass. Maybe Melzer too if his good form continues.

Melzer, meh. But Lleyton looked GREAT against Nadal at RG, and he looked great last year too, just a bit unlucky. And he ALSO has won this before.

people should stop picking murray as a favourute to win slams until he actually wins one

Totally agree. He is on track to have about as much hope of success here, or even less, than Tim Henman.

I'll put in a plug for Roddick, though I don't really like him. With a serve like that, you can't count him out, if one of the other favorites fall.

Guys who won't win the title but can spoil it for others: Dr. Ivo, Isner, Gulbis, Soderling.

christinamarie
06-07-2010, 12:01 AM
I really hate seeing Ivo types knock out people who I favourite for winning. If you're going to beat my guys, at least make it worth it and win the whole thing. But they never do.

HarryMan
06-07-2010, 12:03 AM
Federer is still the man to beat, although he isn't getting any younger, he will be a tough nut to crack at Wimbledon this year. After him, it is Nadal. He is one man who can challenge Federer on any surface, and I think if he makes it to the final (and Federer is on the other side), we can expect another epic match.

After Federer and Nadal, I would say Roddick and Murray as the favorites.

Clay Death
06-07-2010, 12:06 AM
"See you at the U.S. Open!" said Nadal to Johnny Mac. No question he is eyeing the US Open THIS YEAR. SO much so that he may let Wimbledon get away from him. To win this, he MUST start serving better, like he did in 2008. His belief, ability to hold serve and mental strength along with his general game will carry him the rest of the way.



Melzer, meh. But Lleyton looked GREAT against Nadal at RG, and he looked great last year too, just a bit unlucky. And he ALSO has won this before.



Totally agree. He is on track to have about as much hope of success here, or even less, than Tim Henman.

I'll put in a plug for Roddick, though I don't really like him. With a serve like that, you can't count him out, if one of the other favorites fall.

Guys who won't win the title but can spoil it for others: Dr. Ivo, Isner, Gulbis, Soderling.



no question about it lurker. he definitely wants the u.s. open. i believe he will do a few things differently this year so as to collect as much rest and recovery as possible in between events. if he can stay healthy and fresh then he will have his chances at flushing meadow.

osmonde
06-07-2010, 12:27 AM
It's something like they add on the grass points from last year and 3/4 of the points from the year before. Worked it out earlier and I think the Top 10 would be in this order: Federer, Rafa, Murray, Djokovic, Roddick, Davydenko, Soderling, (Del Potro), Verdasco and Tsonga.

Thanks; so they dont consider any other points than grass?
What happens if a guy won high points on grass and nothing else for the rest of the year, as by injury, he would be highly seeded even if he dropped low in ranking?
maybe they great them with a wild card...

DwyaneWade
06-07-2010, 01:01 AM
Favorite is Federer. Nadal is the great unknown (has not played grass match in 2 years) but should be 2nd favorite unless he has unexpectedly lost his grasscourt game. Roddick and Murray have slim outside chances, although I doubt either can beat Federer. Darkhorses would be Tsonga (assuming he is healthy) and Gasquet. Interested to see what Isner brings to table here, he can pick up a good amount of pts.

Clay Death
06-07-2010, 01:06 AM
perhaps isner can take a major scalp like he did at the u.s. open last year.

coonster14
06-07-2010, 01:17 AM
fed, nadal, roddick and murray are the top 4 favourites i think.

djokovic has shitty movement on grass, i have seen him slip way too many times, hoping guys like hewitt, gasquet and baghdatis can somehow make a deep run.

leng jai
06-07-2010, 01:19 AM
I'm afraid you can scratch Haasi, he's a no show this year :sad:

If the clown could stay healthy for more than half an hour, he could have done some major damage on "grass" again this year.

Johnny Groove
06-07-2010, 01:29 AM
I think it will be Roddick's year.

Finally.

Pirata.
06-07-2010, 01:30 AM
I didn't expect SODERKING to be that fatigued,having a much tougher draw to the final than nadull,he played 4 sets against federer,5 against birdman. While nadull played his lap dog almugro & nobody melmug.
#2 I think soderking PARENTS had a little argument a while back that prevented soderling from being as focussed.
#3 soderking was injured earlier in the year an not properly recovered.

:haha:

Clay Death
06-07-2010, 01:37 AM
If the clown could stay healthy for more than half an hour, he could have done some major damage on "grass" again this year.



where the hell have you been man?


hassi may be done with tennis old sport.

Priam
06-07-2010, 01:39 AM
Gasquet could do some damage if he has a good draw.

It's still RF's to lose.

Pirata.
06-07-2010, 01:42 AM
It's still RF's to lose.

This :yeah:

leng jai
06-07-2010, 01:45 AM
where the hell have you been man?


hassi may be done with tennis old sport.

Been lurking waiting for Nadull to win RG again.

Haas is going to pull an Agassi and play till his 36.

Clay Death
06-07-2010, 01:58 AM
Been lurking waiting for Nadull to win RG again.

Haas is going to pull an Agassi and play till his 36.

affirmative.

see you around.

allpro
06-07-2010, 01:59 AM
In my view, there are only three real contenders for The Championships......

1 ) TIE: Federer, Nadal
3 ) Roddick

May the best man win.

DuMa
06-07-2010, 02:09 AM
hoping for a different final this year. Nadal vs Roddick.

Besides Fed, no one else besides these 3 has been able to play in the Finals since 2003

MIMIC
06-07-2010, 03:17 AM
My odds of who has a legitimate shot at winning it:

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Roddick
4. Murray
5. Soderling
6. Verdasco
7. Berdych
8. Karlovic

Wild card: Gulbis

I've completely lost faith in Djokovic. His stamina coupled with his apparently waned aggressiveness doesn't give me any reason to believe that he can even get to another final in today's field....unless it's the U.S. Open.

Mimi
06-07-2010, 04:46 AM
i hope poor Roddick to win it :cool:

Dusk Soldier
06-07-2010, 05:23 AM
The following 5 3 players can actually win it.

Federer
Nadal
Roddick
Murray
Söderling

Djokovic is a total grass mug. His movement is worse and that's such an important part of his game.
Here I fixed your post for you.:wavey:

ossie
06-07-2010, 07:26 AM
its amazing how people think roddick has a shot here, if he wants to win wimbledon this year he would probably have to beat rafa and fed on the way something which is extremely difficult to do especially if your an all serve clown and cant play tennis if your life depended on it.

DartMarcus
06-07-2010, 07:48 AM
Top favourites (in this priority): Federer, Roddick, Nadal, Murray
2nd group of favourites (in this priority): Soderling, Berdych, Cilic, Djokovic, Tsonga, Hewitt, Verdasco, Isner, Lopez, Melzer,
Dark horses (unseeded): Karlovic, Gulbis, Gasquet, Blake, Llodra, Becker, Fish, Kubot,Mallisse, Ancic, Tursunov

rafa_maniac
06-07-2010, 07:57 AM
Federer is favourite being top seed, defeding champ and all around most accomplished grass player by a mile. Nadal close behind being the current in form player and #1, as well as technically still defending his 08 victory. Thing is, in a possible Fedal final it's a total toss-up, but Nadal is much more likely to lose before the final and this makes Fed a clear favourite. Things may change slightly after the lead up events.

Roddick and Murray appear to be the only two other possibilities. I have my fingers crossed for Roddick to win it this year, poor guy deserves to have one of these.

General Suburbia
06-07-2010, 08:07 AM
Probably Federer will win (unfortunately). It's his best surface and probably the title he's most willing to win this whole year.

Nadal hasn't played on the surface in two years. I wonder if that'll affect his chances. Also he's been playing non-stop, and we all know how prone he is to the grinding type of fatigue. But he's been playing very well so far, I first want to see how he transitions from clay to grass.

Roddick has a good chance, but he's prone in many GS to lose to hot players relatively early. A lot depends on his draw. And of course there's Federer.

Murray's my pick to make the finals, even though it isn't his best surface.

Fedicilous
06-07-2010, 08:07 AM
Hard to say. Nadal will reach the final for sure, because Nadal and tough draw don't match with each other. After defeating mugs like Ferrer, Verdasco and some 50-ranked playr in semis, he has big chance to win the whole tournament.

Some only SLIGHT examples:

Wimbledon 2005

R128 Alex Bogdanovic (GBR) 135
R64 Robert Kendrick (USA) 237
R32 Andre Agassi (USA) 20
R16 Irakli Labadze (GEO) 166
Q Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 18
S Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) 16
F Roger Federer (SUI) 1


US Open 2005

R128 Mark Philippoussis (AUS) 113
R64 Luis Horna (PER) 61
R32 Wesley Moodie (RSA) 82
R16 Jiri Novak (CZE) 179
Q Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 54

Australian Open 2008

R128 Viktor Troicki (SRB) 126
R64 Florent Serra (FRA) 88
R32 Gilles Simon (FRA) 33
R16 Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA) 25
Q Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 26
S Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) 38

Wimbledon 2008

R128 Andreas Beck (GER) 122
R64 Ernests Gulbis (LAT) 48
R32 Nicolas Kiefer (GER) 32
R16 Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 17
Q Andy Murray (GBR) 11
S Rainer Schuettler (GER) 94
W Roger Federer (SUI) 1

christallh24
06-07-2010, 08:20 AM
I fully expect to see Roger equaling Borgs record. Not that I want to see it. It feels inevitable.

But, Fedal finals are highy over-rated. No, I want the luxury that Roger fans had. Of Rafa meeting someone other than Roger in the Wimbledon final. Not most likely to happen, though. So I'll take him winning RG and hope and wish for him to get back to '08 level. Which is also most likely not to happen.

Lopez
06-07-2010, 08:24 AM
I fully expect to see Roger equaling Borgs record. Not that I want to see it. It feels inevitable.

But, Fedal finals are highy over-rated. No, I want the luxury that Roger fans had. Of Rafa meeting someone other than Roger in the Wimbledon final. Not most likely to happen, though. So I'll take him winning RG and hope and wish for him to get back to '08 level. Which is also most likely not to happen.

Which record :confused:? You mean Sampras' record of 7 Wimbledons?

I think Federer is the favorite. People talking about seedings, according to Judio Federer will be seeded first and Nadal second.

nevenez
06-07-2010, 08:53 AM
I wonder if there will be any Melzer's. Players who come out of nowhere to reach a semifinal or quarter.
I hope so

Persimmon
06-07-2010, 12:33 PM
Fed will win Wimbledon.

Commander Data
06-07-2010, 12:39 PM
I'm looking for a Fedal final once again. I want to see once more how the two battle it out.
Great match is pretty much garanteed if the Fedal meet.
Also I still believe that Federer was in questionable form in 2008. I want the rematch.
If Nadal wins it is also interessting as it will further solidify that he is the best right now.

Priam
06-07-2010, 12:43 PM
No difference between 1 and 2 seed. They both avoid the top players till the later rounds.

The ghost of William Renshaw might prevent #7.

christallh24
06-07-2010, 12:48 PM
Which record :confused:? You mean Sampras' record of 7 Wimbledons?

Yes, I guess that's the one. Whatever record it'd be if he won another Wimbledon.

But, Jesus Fucking Christ, spare me another Fedal final! That would be a nightmare. I'm so weary of this so-called rivalry of theirs. It's become one-sided, limp and lame.

M4RC
06-07-2010, 01:03 PM
Unlike 2008 if nadull meets Murray,he will lose Murray is more mature & has his # of clay.:D

:haha: :bs:

tyruk14
06-07-2010, 03:21 PM
Nadal takes Wimbledon this year, I think. Roddick might knock Federer out in the semis and make the final. If so, I give him a good shot against Nadal, but the Spaniard's form will prevail. And, frankly, there aren't that many players who are better than Federer, Nadal and Roddick on grass.

And I had a good laugh at all the douche bags who think that Murray is the favourite to beat Nadal on grass, which is absolutely ludicrous. At Queens -- maybe. But at Wimbledon? With Her Majesty the Queen potentially looking down from the royal box? HA!

Noleta
06-07-2010, 03:50 PM
Even though,Rafa won RG,Fed is still the favourite to take the crown,with Murray and Roddick as a possible finalists too.It is between those guys this year.Gasquet can have a good run i think:)Can't wait for the draw:bounce:

Roamed
06-07-2010, 04:09 PM
Thanks; so they dont consider any other points than grass?
What happens if a guy won high points on grass and nothing else for the rest of the year, as by injury, he would be highly seeded even if he dropped low in ranking?
maybe they great them with a wild card...

They add on the 'grass' points to their current points in the rankings I believe :) So the grass point have an effect, but not too much of an effect.

Start da Game
06-07-2010, 04:55 PM
actually there is less competition on grass super sport super slam. fed and nadal are the best. the rest are not in their class, shall we say.

murray has a lot to prove. djokovic is in a slump. and fed renders roddick useless every time he runs into him.

i suspect another quarterfinal exit for fed.......i told them here before the start of FO that the gap between fed and the 'outsiders' was closing and that fed will finally lose the semifinal streak.......like at FO, once again it will be a big server that will knock him out this time at wimbly.......

clay monster has the best shot at wimbledon this year if you ask me.......as you know something vibrant strikes him once he wins that french open.......his tennis on other surfaces flows from the confidence of winning roland garros.......

roddick and murray should be satisfied with quarterfinal showings.......djokovic is due for a good show at wimbledon.......

Certinfy
06-07-2010, 04:57 PM
roddick and murray should be satisfied with quarterfinal showings.......
:haha: How u can even post that is beyond stupid

justsumma
06-07-2010, 04:59 PM
:haha: How u can even post that is beyond stupid
he is beyond stupid

rocketassist
06-07-2010, 05:01 PM
i suspect another quarterfinal exit for fed.......i told them here before the start of FO that the gap between fed and the 'outsiders' was closing and that fed will finally lose the semifinal streak.......like at FO, once again it will be a big server that will knock him out this time at wimbly.......

clay monster has the best shot at wimbledon this year if you ask me.......as you know something vibrant strikes him once he wins that french open.......his tennis on other surfaces flows from the confidence of winning roland garros.......

roddick and murray should be satisfied with quarterfinal showings.......djokovic is due for a good show at wimbledon.......

Which big server? Soderking maybe, but Fed reads Karlovic too well on these courts. Maybe if he drew Ivo early on when the grass is always slicker and quicker.

Djokovic doesn't move well enough on these courts, nor is his game suited enough as his exits to Safin and Haas have shown.

Arkulari
06-07-2010, 05:19 PM
Roger is still the man to beat in grass, Rafa and Duck are the next ones with a best shot at the title

Murray hasn't been playing well this year (sans AO) but he could do well, though I don't see him going past any of the three main names, Nole is in a crossroads in his game, he's just not there right now and has to think what's happening

Start da Game
06-07-2010, 05:19 PM
Which big server? Soderking maybe, but Fed reads Karlovic too well on these courts. Maybe if he drew Ivo early on when the grass is always slicker and quicker.

Djokovic doesn't move well enough on these courts, nor is his game suited enough as his exits to Safin and Haas have shown.

this time it could be someone outside the top 10 or 20.......you never know with players like gulbis, bellucci.......

the advantage for fed is that not many have good footwork for grass and don't know how to close in on the net........of course karlovic or roddick won't be doing it but the two i mentioned above are not to be underestimated.......

Jimnik
06-07-2010, 05:34 PM
I would actually like to see Roddick draw Federer in the quarters already. I think he'd have better chances.

mcnasty
06-07-2010, 05:47 PM
roddick is chomping at the bit. he'll serve well enuff to win it and he's fit enuff. all he needs is a break (a lucky bounce or two) here and there.

Jills
06-07-2010, 07:11 PM
Fed can only win Wimbledon if he doesn't face Rafa in the final. If you don't count that fluke last year (Madrid), Fed hasn't beaten Rafa since 2007. Fed's form is 100 times worse than it was at Wimbledon 2008 and I just don't see him out-lasting an extremely confident Rafa in the final. Sorry.

If someone (Roddick, possibly Soderling or Cilic) were to take Rafa out on a bad day then Fed can win the title. On the other hand, depending on draw, it won't be a cake-walk for Fed to make the final either. Soderling opened the floodgates to end the SF streak and I think a lot of players are going to feel like they're in for a chance against Fed now.

I find Fedal finals to be boring as hell, so I'm hoping that doesn't happen. Truthfully I would like a Murray-Roddick final (though I'm not really a fan of either) just to change things up. Or a Roddick vs surprise finalist (Soderling, Hewitt, Tsonga, some dark horse) would be nice as well. Anything but Fedal!!

Persimmon
06-07-2010, 07:25 PM
Fed-Murray final.

Fedicilous
06-07-2010, 07:34 PM
Federer is in worse form that he was during the Wimbledon 2008? You people are crazy.

Currently Roger plays much better, because he achieved everything, he is more relaxed. 2008 was his worst since 2002, he played crap whole year except few matches.
Maybe someone makes this stupid theory because of Federer's loss in RG quarters, which means completely nothing to Wimbledon. In 2008 he played mugs in Paris, Soderling in God Mode would destroy that Roger in straights.

Everything is in Federer brain, because physically he plays really well, only lack of motivation and chokefest against Nadal could take the title from him.

christallh24
06-07-2010, 08:05 PM
Nadal takes Wimbledon this year, I think. Roddick might knock Federer out in the semis and make the final. If so, I give him a good shot against Nadal, but the Spaniard's form will prevail. And, frankly, there aren't that many players who are better than Federer, Nadal and Roddick on grass.

We must be seeing two differents Rafas. I wouldn't put it past him to get to the semis, but to win, I just can't see at the moment.

And I had a good laugh at all the douche bags who think that Murray is the favourite to beat Nadal on grass, which is absolutely ludicrous.

Why is that ridiculous? Andy has gotten to...what...three(?) slam finals. He could do it. He looks very focused and determined it the recent pics of him. Maybe, as what Rafa said he has for the USO, a "special motivation" for Wimbledon. He's British (scottish) and want to be the peoples' hero. If Rafa got game enough to get to three Wimbledon final and win it, I think Andy could have lucky breaks and enough game to pull it off.

i suspect another quarterfinal exit for fed.......i told them here before the start of FO that the gap between fed and the 'outsiders' was closing and that fed will finally lose the semifinal streak.......like at FO, once again it will be a big server that will knock him out this time at wimbly

:eek: OMG! What nonsense you spew! Are you retarded?!

Fed can only win Wimbledon if he doesn't face Rafa in the final. If you don't count that fluke last year (Madrid), Fed hasn't beaten Rafa since 2007. Fed's form is 100 times worse than it was at Wimbledon 2008 and I just don't see him out-lasting an extremely confident Rafa in the final. Sorry.

But it does count. I'd loved that it didn't, but it does. No matter the reason or circumstances, it's in the books. What we can say is, that of all the times since '07, Roger has only beaten him once of the three times they faced each other.

I find Fedal finals to be boring as hell, so I'm hoping that doesn't happen. Truthfully I would like a Murray-Roddick final (though I'm not really a fan of either) just to change things up. Or a Roddick vs surprise finalist (Soderling, Hewitt, Tsonga, some dark horse) would be nice as well. Anything but Fedal!!

I'm with on finding the Fedal matches tedious. Can't go with on Murray/Roddick, however. I'm not sure what I want other than to see both Rafael and Novak to reach the semi or finals.