RG Boys Final: Agustín Velotti [ARG] def. Andrea Collarini [USA] 6-4 7-5 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

RG Boys Final: Agustín Velotti [ARG] def. Andrea Collarini [USA] 6-4 7-5

Mario Sharapov
06-06-2010, 01:55 PM
18 years old Agustín Velotti of Argentina just defeated another 18 years old Andrea Collarini from USA to win 2010 French Open Boys Title. Congratulation to our new junior champion!

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/9f/fullj.15a3451779587c37005fec74132988a5/15a3451779587c37005fec74132988a5-getty-tennis-fra-open-roland-garros.jpg

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Sapeod
06-06-2010, 02:03 PM
I like this Velotti. He looks like a good prospect.

samanosuke
06-06-2010, 02:07 PM
Andrea Collarini sound like pure American

misty1
06-06-2010, 02:08 PM
apparently collarini is from argentina but moved to america

Modetopia
06-06-2010, 02:19 PM
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misty1
06-06-2010, 02:20 PM
pretty impressive stats

out_here_grindin
06-06-2010, 03:04 PM
Andrea Collarini sound like pure American

so did Agassi and Sampras

tennishero
06-06-2010, 03:19 PM
nice one velotti :) taking out the traitor.

Snowwy
06-06-2010, 03:21 PM
apparently collarini is from argentina but moved to america

Not exactly, he is from NY, but grew up in Argentina for most of his childhood.

tennishero
06-06-2010, 03:25 PM
collarini was born in argentina, both parents are argentine, he recently took the US citizenship after they began funding his tennis career, thats what i read somewhere.

fco253
06-06-2010, 03:27 PM
apparently collarini is from argentina but moved to america

He is. His parents are argentinean and he lived in argentina his whole life. But he was born in New York because his father worked there at that moment.

In fact he and Velotti have been the Argentina singles and doubles players in Argentina juniors teams their whole careers until now.

But the USTA realized that all the millions they spend anually on tennis development weren't "producing" enough, so they cut to the chase and "bought" him. Nice! :rolleyes:

Obviously for Andrea was a no brainer. This kid is gonna be a very good player, I hope the USTA is sued properly for his formation rights.

Congrats to both Agustin and Andrea for this great result.

PS for argentines:, beware of attacking Andrea, it's very easy being patriotic with other people future and money.

DualMedia
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
having a tennis career is expensive!!! so Congrats to both!

Mario Sharapov
06-06-2010, 03:43 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/9f/fullj.15a3451779587c37005fec74132988a5/15a3451779587c37005fec74132988a5-getty-tennis-fra-open-roland-garros.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d8/fullj.4ab54f7b1c5c1aad841eec3d33569932/4ab54f7b1c5c1aad841eec3d33569932-getty-tennis-fra-open-roland-garros.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/bf/fullj.a874657eabe0e63c3f058d696856e261/a874657eabe0e63c3f058d696856e261-getty-tennis-fra-open-roland-garros.jpg

Helevorn
06-06-2010, 03:48 PM
collarini was born in argentina, both parents are argentine, he recently took the US citizenship after they began funding his tennis career, thats what i read somewhere.
argentine means? xD collarini (and even velotti) are italian surnames. not that this means anything, of course xD

btw nice win for velotti, he can do really well

LocoPorElTenis
06-06-2010, 03:53 PM
winning gs junior titles doesn't mean much these days, but well done to Agustín anyway.

TennisLurker
06-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Congrats Agustín for beating the TRAITOR who was still playing for Argentina till a few months ago




60%+ Of Argentines have at least one italian grandparent, so italian surnames are quite common here

tennishero
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
argentine means? xD collarini (and even velotti) are italian surnames. not that this means anything, of course xD

btw nice win for velotti, he can do really well

so italians wants to take credit now... LOL

in that case, greece should take credit from italy.

rocketassist
06-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Good to see the man proud of his heritage won this.

Hope Velotti has the better career.

Chip_s_m
06-06-2010, 04:53 PM
Anyone born in the US is automatically given American citizenship, regardless of the status of his parents. It's actually a bit of a hot issue right now, since there are many kids here with citizenship whose parents are here illegally. I read somewhere that Collarini has had a US passport for a while before he decided to represent the US a few months ago. If he feels that accepting USTA funding is best for his career then it's hard to blame him for making the switch. Hasn't the Argentine Tennis Federation had some problems financially assisting some of their younger players anyways?

ReturnWinner
06-06-2010, 05:05 PM
Good to see Velotti defeating "The traitor" Collarini in the final but both are 18, They need to show more in futures or challengers.

njnetswill
06-06-2010, 05:09 PM
Like someone else said, if you are born on US soil you are automatically given US citizenship. It's not quite like the whole Kazakhstan "buying" players situation. I do understand why Argentines are frustrated though, since Collarini spent most of his life in Argentina and learned the game there.

croat123
06-06-2010, 05:22 PM
i wouldn't read much into 18 year olds winning junior titles...

Dyraise
06-06-2010, 05:45 PM
Anyone born in the US is automatically given American citizenship, regardless of the status of his parents. It's actually a bit of a hot issue right now, since there are many kids here with citizenship whose parents are here illegally. I read somewhere that Collarini has had a US passport for a while before he decided to represent the US a few months ago. If he feels that accepting USTA funding is best for his career then it's hard to blame him for making the switch. Hasn't the Argentine Tennis Federation had some problems financially assisting some of their younger players anyways?

Some problems? Huge problems!

Chip_s_m
06-06-2010, 05:45 PM
Here's an article on the switch. Deboogle had originally posted this in Collarini's player thread:

Coming To America
By Douglas Robson

PARIS—A group of Argentine reporters stood with tape recorders at-the-ready for a junior tennis player. But the boy they were waiting for wasn’t playing for Argentina; he was playing for the United States. Andrea Collarini, an 18-year-old with dark curly hair and bright prospects on clay, had just upset ninth-seeded Duilio Beretta of Peru 6-3, 6-3, to reach the boys’ singles final at Roland Garros. Collarini could become the first French Open boys’ winner for the U.S. since John McEnroe in 1977. But as he entered the small press room for his interview, South American reporters easily outnumbered their North American counterparts.

Collarini, it turns out, has barely dusted the dirt off his Argentine affiliations. He competed for Argentina until this spring, when the American-born player switched national allegiances and decided to play under the banner of the Red, White and Blue. He relocated in April full-time to the USTA training center in Boca Raton, Fla. As one of Argentina’s top young players, his defection left the Argentine Tennis Federation less than thrilled. “Obviously they are not happy,” said Maximiliano Boso, who has covered the story for Argentina’s daily La Nacion. “The federation felt that they had invested money in this guy and they have empty hands.”

If this were a Greek tragedy, the gods pulling the strings atop Mount Olympus would be having a good chuckle. Who does Collarini play in Sunday’s boys final? An Argentine, of course. And not just any Argentine, either. “He’s my best friend in tennis,” said Collarini of Agustin Velotti, who, like Collarini, is unseeded. Collarini and Velotti have known each other since they were 11, played doubles together since age 14 and sometimes slept in the same hotel bed before facing off in tournament finals. According to Collarini, the Argentine tennis authorities forbade them from playing together in Paris despite their shared history. “We couldn’t play here because the federation didn’t want me to play with him,” said Collarini, who speaks in deliberate and accented English.

Collarini was born in New York City and lived there until age 3 when his parents, who spent a decade studying in the States, returned to their native Buenos Aires. The left-hander grew into a promising player, eventually reaching a high of No. 5 in the world junior rankings last year. More recently, he reached two semis and one final on the professional level at $10,000 Futures events in Argentina, Croatia and Spain.

To take the next step in his career, Collarini took advantage of his U.S. passport and the recent hiring of his coach by the USTA High Performance program. When the USTA offered him a chance to train full-time at the player-development headquarters in Boca Raton, Fla., he leaped. Money was a big part of it. “They are my sponsor now,” Collarini, clearly a tad uncomfortable talking about his recent change, said of the USTA. “They pay me everything.” His loyalties are still untangling. Asked who he would root for in this month’s World Cup, the soccer-loving Collarini said, “Both—but I think Argentina has much more chances.”

Collarini came into the sights of the USTA through his coach, Diego Moyano, according to USTA spokesman Tim Curry. Moyano informed the head coach of the USTA High Performance program, Jose Higueras, about Collarini during job discussions last year. Moyano was eventually hired and will start with the USTA on June 15.

Aware of the sensitivities, Curry emphasized that the USTA didn’t “poach” Collarini and that the discussions “emanated from Jose trying to recruit Diego from the staff.” Curry went on to explain that the Argentine federation released Collarini “with no issue.” This is usually a condition for switching countries, according to the ITF, and there is precedence for nations refusing to allow a transfer when they have invested money in a player. It happened this year in the case of Sean Berman, who reached January’s Australian Open boys’ final. The USTA, which funded Berman for several years, declined to offer his immediate release when the South Africa-born Berman declared his intention to play for Australia. “We would not release him because we had given him direct financial support,” Currysaid. Collarini also cannot compete in team events for the U.S., such as Davis Cup, for three years after his last competition for his old country. He'll be eligible in September 2011.

Boso, the Argentine journalist, said that the USTA made an offer to Collarini last year and he declined. They came to terms this year, largely because Moyano would remain his coach. That was clearly a big factor. “I’m still practicing with the same coach so it’s the same,” Collarini said Friday. Still, the federation in Argentina was looking into monetary compensation from the USTA, according to Boso. Curry said that the Argentine tennis authorities had made no “formal request for money” but he wasn’t sure if they had made other demands.

Curry also pointed out that Moyano, who has worked with 1998 French Open champ Carlos Moya and American Robby Ginepri, is not Collarini’s private coach. He will be working with other top juniors. Meantime, Collarini will train with a variety of USTA coaches, such as Jay Berger, Hugo Armando and Leo Azevedo, who is with him in Paris. “We have a resident program and provide coaching,” said Curry, who could put no dollar figure on how much they would spend on housing, coaching and travel for Collarini. “In Argentina or elsewhere these would have been out-of-pocket expenses for him.”

USTA coach Azevedo, a Brazilian who joined the USTA about a year ago, said Collarini has a good chance to win if he can block out the situation of playing his friend in his first big final since changing countries. “It’s not easy,” Azevedosaid. “He is 18. If you want to be good, there are a lot of tough situations.” Azevedo cited Rafael Nadal, whose first important win as a teenager was over his friend and mentor Carlos Moya. “When you go to the court in a good way you need to try to kill the other. There is a spot only for one. After match, you can be friends.”

Azevedo said that winning here is not his main concern. Rather, he wants Collarini, a good mover with a heavy topspin forehand, to improve all aspects of his game. “He is 18 years old with a lot of things to come and a lot of hours on court….I think he has potential in general. But the most important thing now is don’t be happy about this [result] and look for more improvement. Every good player is improving. Nadal is better this year than last year….[Collarini] has a chance to be a good player, for sure.”

Whether he makes it as a pro remains to be seen, but no one at the USTA seems disappointed to have a top prospect who honed his game on red clay, especially considering the dismal results of the U.S. men in Paris in recent years. No American man has reached the quarterfinals since Andre Agassi in 2003. Agassi was the last winner in 1999. “I don’t know if the Argentina federation is happy,” Azevedosaid, “but we are.”

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/features_frenchopen.aspx?articleid=5846&zoneid=34

Iris~
06-06-2010, 07:03 PM
Congratulations to both!
And then,please win a future's title as soon as possible.

P.S.
It's not andrea's fault!I wouldn't like to say something more...

octatennis
06-06-2010, 07:13 PM
they both will have a nico pereira carreer like.

andy neyer
06-06-2010, 07:16 PM
collarini was born in argentina, both parents are argentine, he recently took the US citizenship after they began funding his tennis career, thats what i read somewhere.

a traitor then?

These yank bastards are like Kazajhtan now (or whatever the hell that's suppossed to be spelled). First they buy Haas and now this :lol:

octatennis
06-06-2010, 07:32 PM
free palestine baby!!

fran70
06-06-2010, 08:00 PM
He is. His parents are argentinean and he lived in argentina his whole life. But he was born in New York because his father worked there at that moment.

In fact he and Velotti have been the Argentina singles and doubles players in Argentina juniors teams their whole careers until now.

But the USTA realized that all the millions they spend anually on tennis development weren't "producing" enough, so they cut to the chase and "bought" him. Nice! :rolleyes:

Obviously for Andrea was a no brainer. This kid is gonna be a very good player, I hope the USTA is sued properly for his formation rights.

Congrats to both Agustin and Andrea for this great result.

PS for argentines:, beware of attacking Andrea, it's very easy being patriotic with other people future and money.

You shouldn`t forget that the AAT spent money and time on him. Argentina is not like USA that can spend loads of money on players that have the potential to be good in the future. So they can only choose a few and they spend that money, resources and time on them. And those ones that were not picked by the AAT had to forge a future with their own resources. Some are able to do it and many that not...

Of course that Collarini can choose to represent the country he wants but that would had been interesting that their parents had sent him to a tennis academy in USA while he was young and spend their own money. In that case AAT would had been able to use that money and time on someone else...

After all Collarini was not the first Argentine player that was tempted to represent another flag as it happeend with Nalbandian or Sabatini in the past who decided to represent Argentina in anyway...(they were tempted by Italy)

The most deplorable issue is that the USTA needs to take this sort of attitudes to find players around the world that they cannot any longer produce.

andy neyer
06-06-2010, 08:03 PM
The funniest thing is that Andrea is a girls name in Spanish speaking countries like Argentina.

straitup
06-06-2010, 08:28 PM
The funniest thing is that Andrea is a girls name in Spanish speaking countries like Argentina.

And in the US

ChuckNorrisFan
06-06-2010, 08:34 PM
Come on, everybody goes where the money is. Are you going to blame scientists, professors... too?

star
06-06-2010, 08:51 PM
The boy has dual citizenship. Clearly, he will always be an Argentine at heart. Did people fault Mary Pierce for playing for France when she spent most of her life in the U.S. and clearly identified more with the U.S.? She went where she could get financial support.

He's 18. Obviously, there are adults involved in this decision as well.

_Tripp_
06-06-2010, 11:09 PM
It's an understandable choice, mostly because argentinian players are forced to quit from tennis if they don't get proper results after a few years in the ITF. They get tired of spending money out of their parents' pockets only to pursuit something only a handful of players achieve.

On the other hand, you have players like Donald Young and Ryan Sweeting -who also happens not to be an american-born player-, who get to play around the world without the pressure of pulling their families into bankrupt, with no necessary results.

I personally believe that this sort of situations make a player hungrier for success. Look at all the russians in the WTA. But on the other hand, it prevents late-bloomers from reaching their potential.

ArgieFan
06-07-2010, 04:20 AM
Take that you fukin traitor!!!!! Vamos Velotti!!!

spanish_army
06-07-2010, 05:11 AM
The funniest thing is that Andrea is a girls name in Spanish speaking countries like Argentina.

jajajaja, it's true

Getta
06-07-2010, 05:25 AM
The funniest thing is that Andrea is a girls name in Spanish speaking countries like Argentina.

Andrea is Italian male name. it's a derived form of Greek Andreas, meaning "man, warrior."

apparently, Andrea Collarini does have Italian ancestry.

Caralimon
06-07-2010, 05:42 AM
Understandable choice from Andrea, I doubt he cares what three letters are next to his name, and he still has a long way to get to any Davis Cup squad.

Congrats to both kids, hopefully they will have successful careers.