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Should Nadal Play Madrid?

Topspin Forehand
05-01-2010, 08:50 PM
I was supporting this until I saw Nadal's match today was very grinding. I'm not sure he should play Madrid now. I think 3 weeks off is too much before a slam but Nadal feels so comfortable on this surface. And we know Nadal's knee problems and blisters need to be gone by RG.

andy neyer
05-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Maybe he and his team know more about his physical state than us, regular viewiers?


Take this thread to Nadal's forum, please.

Ozon
05-01-2010, 08:53 PM
One week off after tomorrow's final should be enough rest.

It's not as important as Roland Garros of course but there are still 1000 points to win in Madrid...

Topspin Forehand
05-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Maybe he and his team know more about his physical state than us, regular viewiers?


Take this thread to Nadal's forum, please.
Last year was a great example how much he knew about his state. :rolleyes: And the poll would be useless with like 5 people voting. I was curious what the general public thought on the matter.

octatennis
05-01-2010, 09:15 PM
no,no?

Sunset of Age
05-01-2010, 09:16 PM
Last year was a great example how much he knew about his state. :rolleyes: And the poll would be useless with like 5 people voting. I was curious what the general public thought on the matter.

Last year he (his team?) got too greedy and payed the price of his overplaying by losing his RG crown and being forced to pull out of Wimbledon altogether. This year, he's already skipped Barcelona so he's apparently finally learnt his lesson. Better late than never.

90% sure he will play Madrid, unless there's something really serious bothering him (and as Madrid is a mandatory 1000-tournament, he will have to show objective medical proof of that) - which I don't believe is the case right now at all.

safin-rules-no.1
05-01-2010, 09:19 PM
yeah but no, but yeah, but no, but...........

Persimmon
05-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Nope.

andy neyer
05-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Last year was a great example how much he knew about his state. :rolleyes: And the poll would be useless with like 5 people voting. I was curious what the general public thought on the matter.

Well, last year he also played in Barcelona so things aren't similar...

If you ask me, I can only say he looks fine and from the outside I see no reason to believe that Nadal shouldn't play. I also think that many Nadal fans are somewhat paranoid with their favourite player's physical health. It's just the way I see things...

I'd prefer him to skip Madrid just to give a chance for other players to win the event. I think Nadal will win RG whether he plays Madrid or not.

Persimmon
05-01-2010, 09:22 PM
Well, last year he also played in Barcelona so things aren't similar.....

He's one year older. His wobbly knees are one year older as well:scared::unsure:

Filo V.
05-01-2010, 09:22 PM
If he feels good physically, yes. People need to stop being so paranoid about the man and his body, and he will do what he feels is appropriate.

Guy Haines
05-01-2010, 09:26 PM
N to the o.

star
05-01-2010, 09:29 PM
Maybe he and his team know more about his physical state than us, regular viewiers?


Take this thread to Nadal's forum, please.

Why is that? I'm sure there are many, many non-Nadal fans who like to speculate about him too. Don't deprive anyone of the pleasure of weighing in. :)

Many things that are strictly about one player are posted here.

If you strictures were followed, all the "Should (insert player name) Retire?" threads would be banished to player forums and what fun would that be? ;)

star
05-01-2010, 09:30 PM
N to the o.

:lol: :lol:

:yeah:

Commander Data
05-01-2010, 09:32 PM
I do not think it matters much if he plays it or not. pros/cons either way.

duong
05-01-2010, 09:41 PM
Maybe he and his team know more about his physical state than us, regular viewiers?


Take this thread to Nadal's forum, please.

:yeah: :lol:

NicoMedellin
05-01-2010, 09:41 PM
I think he should play...one match that he didn't want 1 one hour...doesn't mean that he's injured or something like that...and I think that Rafa and his team learn the lesson last year and that's why he didn't play Barcelona

duong
05-01-2010, 09:46 PM
Last year he (his team?) got too greedy and payed the price of his overplaying by losing his RG crown and being forced to pull out of Wimbledon altogether. This year, he's already skipped Barcelona so he's apparently finally learnt his lesson. Better late than never.

I don't think it was a matter of "not knowing" or being greedy, but Nadal is apparently just eager to play :shrug:

90% sure he will play Madrid, unless there's something really serious bothering him (and as Madrid is a mandatory 1000-tournament, he will have to show objective medical proof of that) - which I don't believe is the case right now at all.

I don't know about that, his choice of not playing Barcelona still surprised me, I had never heared him speaking of skipping that one (he spoke about skipping MAdrid for sure but Barcelona I had never heard about it and I know it's important for him).

As for what kind of physical problem ?

maybe it was just his blisters which made them decide not to play Barcelona :shrug: actually he had lost first round of Roma because of that 2 years ago :shrug:

today, his play in second set was not good, strange errors, and overall not aggressive as previous days in that match : maybe it's mental, but maybe it's blisters as well :shrug:

born_on_clay
05-01-2010, 09:52 PM
In my opinion he should
Actually it's about 9 days off before next 2nd round match in Madrid. It's enough

and duonng in 2008 it was all about blisters on his feet. Now it's about the ones on his hand

Sunset of Age
05-01-2010, 09:59 PM
I don't think it was a matter of "not knowing" or being greedy, but Nadal is apparently just eager to play :shrug:

He is, and that's exactly why there are teams around to inform a player about scheduling properly.

I don't know about that, his choice of not playing Barcelona still surprised me, I had never heared him speaking of skipping that one (he spoke about skipping MAdrid for sure but Barcelona I had never heard about it and I know it's important for him).

It didn't surprise me at all. He and his team know very well that Rafa with his condition of knee tendonitis should NOT overplay, but in stead, manage his schedule wisely. It rather surprises me that he didn't realize such last year. :shrug:

maybe it was just his blisters which made them decide not to play Barcelona :shrug: actually he had lost first round of Roma because of that 2 years ago :shrug:

ALL players play with blisters/callus on their hands. It's nothing exceptional.
It would be rather different if those blisters appeared on his feet (like in Rome last year), but such wasn't the case here. Completely different matters.

today, his play in second set was not good, strange errors, and overall not aggressive as previous days in that match : maybe it's mental, but maybe it's blisters as well :shrug:

I think you actually fail to give Gulbis the credits he deserves, here. Gulbis was serving out of his mind, and played very much all-or-nothing hard-hitting shots whereever he could. Rafa always has trouble with that kind of playing, think DelPotro, for instance. :shrug:

Selby
05-01-2010, 10:04 PM
No he shouldn't.

Jills
05-01-2010, 10:06 PM
Yeah, he should.

But I hope he doesn't.

duong
05-01-2010, 10:07 PM
It would be rather different if those blisters appeared on his feet (like in Rome last year), but such wasn't the case here. Completely different matters.

yes, as born_on_clay said, it's different.

However I found him less aggressive today

I think you actually fail to give Gulbis the credits he deserves, here. Gulbis was serving out of his mind, and played very much all-or-nothing hard-hitting shots whereever he could. Rafa always has trouble with that kind of playing, think DelPotro, for instance. :shrug:

I gave Gulbis a lot of credit today and was supporting and praising him on my armchair, esp on serve and some beautiful points :lol:

but Nadal didn't play as powerful as previous days and made more errors imo

Gulbis was not always hyper-aggressive : in these points the Nadal who played against Wawrinka or Hanescu would have played a huge forehand instead of constantly pushing him on his backhand, which was a good tactics but not as good as what he can do.

Goldenoldie
05-01-2010, 10:20 PM
If he beats Ferrer tomorrow as expected, then he should play Madrid. If he doesn't it could be evidence that something is not 100%, so perhaps he should take the extra rest.

He will do his own thing anyway.

Sunset of Age
05-01-2010, 10:22 PM
If he beats Ferrer tomorrow as expected, then he should play Madrid. If he doesn't it could be evidence that something is not 100%, so perhaps he should take the extra rest.

He will do his own thing anyway.

That sounds pretty reasonable, yes. :)

Corey Feldman
05-01-2010, 10:29 PM
Hell No

Topspin Forehand
05-01-2010, 10:30 PM
yes, as born_on_clay said, it's different.

However I found him less aggressive today



I gave Gulbis a lot of credit today and was supporting and praising him on my armchair, esp on serve and some beautiful points :lol:

but Nadal didn't play as powerful as previous days and made more errors imo

Gulbis was not always hyper-aggressive : in these points the Nadal who played against Wawrinka or Hanescu would have played a huge forehand instead of constantly pushing him on his backhand, which was a good tactics but not as good as what he can do.
Agreed. Nadal's shots didn't have as much bite as in the Wawrinka match. It was disappointing seeing him struggle the way he did but he still won. That's all that matters in the end.

Har-Tru
05-01-2010, 10:33 PM
Last year he (his team?) got too greedy and payed the price of his overplaying by losing his RG crown and being forced to pull out of Wimbledon altogether. This year, he's already skipped Barcelona so he's apparently finally learnt his lesson. Better late than never.

90% sure he will play Madrid, unless there's something really serious bothering him (and as Madrid is a mandatory 1000-tournament, he will have to show objective medical proof of that) - which I don't believe is the case right now at all.

Players don't need to show any objective medical proof of any kind to skip tournaments. They constantly skip them citing reasons as vague as "fatigue". And even if that was necessary, Nadal's knees are more than objective proof.

Because I repeat, I believe Nadal's knees might be dancing their last waltz, and their owner with them. This is largely guesswork, but I think the reason Nadal's game has been dropping its level progressively since MC is that the pain in his knees has been increasing.

So my answer is a definite yes, he should skip Madrid.

I don't think it was a matter of "not knowing" or being greedy, but Nadal is apparently just eager to play :shrug:



I don't know about that, his choice of not playing Barcelona still surprised me, I had never heared him speaking of skipping that one (he spoke about skipping MAdrid for sure but Barcelona I had never heard about it and I know it's important for him).

As for what kind of physical problem ?

maybe it was just his blisters which made them decide not to play Barcelona :shrug: actually he had lost first round of Roma because of that 2 years ago :shrug:

today, his play in second set was not good, strange errors, and overall not aggressive as previous days in that match : maybe it's mental, but maybe it's blisters as well :shrug:

It's the knees, stupid! ;)

DrJules
05-01-2010, 10:34 PM
Well, last year he also played in Barcelona so things aren't similar...

If you ask me, I can only say he looks fine and from the outside I see no reason to believe that Nadal shouldn't play. I also think that many Nadal fans are somewhat paranoid with their favourite player's physical health. It's just the way I see things...

I'd prefer him to skip Madrid just to give a chance for other players to win the event. I think Nadal will win RG whether he plays Madrid or not.

Barcelona meant he played 3 successive weeks and 15 matches. This year a week break between each event.

prima donna
05-01-2010, 10:35 PM
I don't see why not; after all, those knees of his could use a bit of work.

Sunset of Age
05-01-2010, 10:39 PM
Players don't need to show any objective medical proof of any kind to skip tournaments. They constantly skip them citing reasons as vague as "fatigue". And even if that was necessary, Nadal's knees are more than objective proof.

Of course, there's an 'Animal Farm'-factor counting in whenever one of the top dogs withdraws.

Because I repeat, I believe Nadal's knees might be dancing their last waltz, and their owner with them. This is largely guesswork, but I think the reason Nadal's game has been dropping its level progressively since MC is that the pain in his knees has been increasing.

I think you're being too negative on Rafa's status and playing level, but time will tell which one of us will be right on this matter.
I can only hope Federer's words, "We haven't yet seen the best of Rafa" to come true. :)

djb84xi
05-02-2010, 12:31 AM
I don't see anything wrong with Rafa, so I don't see why he should skip Madrid. 3 tournaments are enough preparation heading into the French. Fed is playing 3 events, and despite not being injury-prone, I don't see anyone giving him any hell, so don't give Rafa any. It's not like every match he's played so far has gone 3 sets or 3 hours. With the exception of the Gulbis match, everything else has been a breeze, so please cut the guy some slack. As long as he's physically healthy, I give him the heads up to play.

andy neyer
05-02-2010, 01:34 AM
I think you actually fail to give Gulbis the credits he deserves, here. Gulbis was serving out of his mind, and played very much all-or-nothing hard-hitting shots whereever he could. Rafa always has trouble with that kind of playing, think DelPotro, for instance. :shrug:

I agreed with duong on that. Nadal played a very bad second set, imo. During the whole match he was playing a bit short and with few marked angles but the second set was indeed the worst.

That's not to say that Gulbis didn't play a decent match...

andy neyer
05-02-2010, 01:38 AM
Because I repeat, I believe Nadal's knees might be dancing their last waltz, and their owner with them.

Over the past few years people have been doing that prediction more times than guessing when "Federer will fall".

Nadull's knees still have a long way too, imo.

andy neyer
05-02-2010, 01:39 AM
Barcelona meant he played 3 successive weeks and 15 matches. This year a week break between each event.

Yeah, that's the point I was trying to make.

.-Federers_Mate-.
05-02-2010, 02:24 AM
ofcourse he should, he gets a weeks break after and gives the tourney more importance

Topspin Forehand
05-02-2010, 02:53 AM
I guess I'm leaning towards Nadal playing to. Nadal doesn't want to have to watch a big tournament on tv. He wants to play in it. And mentioned already, that Nadal has gotten a week off between each big tournament. That is crucial in avoiding knee tendinitis from getting worse. Plus the match toughness factor of being able to play more loose with more match play.

Ackms421
05-02-2010, 03:20 AM
I'm not sure if he should play. Although the schedule is a lot more forgiving having skipped Barcelona.

If he plays and wins everything, wouldn't he be the first to ever win all three clay masters along with the French? That would be pretty cool.

Halba
05-02-2010, 03:27 AM
I was supporting this until I saw Nadal's match today was very grinding. I'm not sure he should play Madrid now. I think 3 weeks off is too much before a slam but Nadal feels so comfortable on this surface. And we know Nadal's knee problems and blisters need to be gone by RG.

todays match is a danger sign. he should not play madrid and should take 3 weeks off. he is such a natural on this surface it doesn't matter. he has blisters on his hand and 2 MS is enough prep. he can give Madrid away to a Ferrer or gulbis.

he can opt for practise sets before RG. lots of people want practise.

Start da Game
05-02-2010, 05:39 AM
no need to play madrid.......

Veronique
05-02-2010, 04:38 PM
His schedule this year is better. He'll be fine playing all 3 clay Masters plus Roland Garros.

gorgo1986
05-02-2010, 06:11 PM
His schedule is fine, he has a week off in between all. In the end of the day its not up to us but to Nadal and his team and after last year I am sure they know best what they need to do.

jcempire
05-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Maybe he and his team know more about his physical state than us, regular viewiers?


Take this thread to Nadal's forum, please.

but I think he need a break before RG. Don't make same mistake again

RafaFan95
05-02-2010, 06:32 PM
I think he should play but not with full energy.

Priam
05-02-2010, 06:36 PM
Play but tank! Like QFs or earlier.

tyruk14
05-02-2010, 06:46 PM
He should play Madrid and reduce his training schedule to relax the strain on his knees. I think that three weeks without playing competitive tennis would be bad for Nadal and his fans.

Or his knees could fall off, which would be worse for him.

centralviva
05-02-2010, 06:55 PM
He had a week off last week and has another this week so he has plenty of rest. Another tournament wouldn't do any harm plus there is ranking points to be had

Filo V.
05-02-2010, 07:02 PM
Play but tank! Like QFs or earlier.

He doesn't have the mentality to tank, and he may as well not show up if her were going to do that, and if it were proven he did do that, he should be fined.

Filo V.
05-02-2010, 07:03 PM
Until Rafa shows he is injured, then it should be assumed he isn't injured. People REALLY are going to have to get off the paranoia and realize that Nadal is a grown man who knows his body, has been making smarter scheduling decisions this year, and will make the appropriate decision for him. Not every step he takes is going to end up in a blown ACL.

CyBorg
05-02-2010, 07:04 PM
He will play as it is being held in Madrid. But does he have to? I don't think it really matters. There's nothing about Madrid's surface that will provide Nadal with a comfort level heading into RG. It's not the same speed, nor bounce. Nadal will probably approach the event as a way of continuing his momentum heading into RG.

Priam
05-02-2010, 07:07 PM
How long does he have to decide if he'll play or not? I'm assuming as late as this weekend. He's already blown off Costa, I doubt he skips Madrid.

prafull
05-02-2010, 07:21 PM
He can't skip Rome citing Tiredness as a reason. He will not only lose 600 points he won there last year but also will be fined 1000 points (his best Masters result) according to ATP rules. So not playing Madrid = loss of 1600 points.

Persimmon
05-02-2010, 07:22 PM
He will play as it is being held in Madrid. But does he have to? I don't think it really matters. There's nothing about Madrid's surface that will provide Nadal with a comfort level heading into RG. It's not the same speed, nor bounce. Nadal will probably approach the event as a way of continuing his momentum heading into RG.

If he plays Madrid he will lose momentum:wavey:

dusan1610
05-02-2010, 07:22 PM
Yes of course...

l_mac
05-02-2010, 07:24 PM
He can't skip Rome citing Tiredness as a reason. He will not only lose 600 points he won there last year but also will be fined 1000 points (his best Masters result) according to ATP rules. So not playing Madrid = loss of 1600 points.

The ATP have yet to apply that rule. And I think Rafa can get a doctor's not any time he wants, on account of his knees.

Bazooka
05-02-2010, 07:28 PM
More important than playing the actual event is what he does next week. Will he again be a marketing whore?

In 2009 Nadal arrived to Madrid like 5 days in advance, and attended all kind of stupid events everyday. Then he had a pretty though tournament with close matches and a painful loss at the end, and of course instead of running straight to Paris to prepare RG he again whored a little more even in other countries like Switzerland, and even played an exho in Paris.

I understand you sign up these contracts in advance, but comeon.

Jimnik
05-02-2010, 08:01 PM
Will Spain forgive him for missing both their prime events?

If there's any remote problem with his knees he should withdraw. RG and Wimby are too important.

M4RC
05-02-2010, 08:45 PM
Will Spain forgive him for missing both their prime events?

In Spain Nadal is GOD, believe me. He is up there with Pau Gasol, Fernando Alonso and La Roja (national football team).

Aenea
05-04-2010, 05:13 PM
This article (http://www.larazon.es/noticia/6929-toni-nadal-esta-a-su-mejor-nivel) is reporting Nadal's camp has decided Rafa is playing Madrid and they'll be there on Thursday. Toni Nadal says Rafa is at his best at the level of 2008, playing with no pain and with the week break between tournaments his schedule is very good.

legolandbridge
05-04-2010, 05:26 PM
Of course he should, and will, play it. It's a Masters Series on his favorite surface! 1000 points. He's not playing the week before or after. It would be ridiculous to skip as a preemptive measure unless he is currently injured.

If he wants to lighten his schedule, he should skip Rotterdam, Barcelona, Shanghai, perhaps Queens. Which he is already mostly doing.

born_on_clay
05-04-2010, 05:28 PM
Of course he should, and will, play it. It's a Masters Series on his favorite surface! 1000 points. He's not playing the week before or after. It would be ridiculous to skip as a preemptive measure unless he is currently injured.

If he wants to lighten his schedule, he should skip Rotterdam, Barcelona, Shanghai, perhaps Queens. Which he is already mostly doing.

Honestly it would be more sensible to skip Cincinnati
He's got a 9-6 "record" there
I hope he will do it and be fresh for US Open as never before

delpiero7
05-04-2010, 05:47 PM
If he feels fit there's no reason why he shouldn't play Madrid.

Relating back to last year, people seem to forget that he also played in Rotterdam, where he had 4 out of 5 matches go to 3 sets (against the likes of Bolelli and Dimitrov - ROFL).

This year he took time off between the AO and Indian Wells, plus he's had an additional week rest by skipping Barca.

Seems like people have gotten their panties in a twist over one tough match against Gulbis. He can't win every clay tourney playing perfect clay-court tennis and stomping over everyone 0 and 1.

As somebody else mentioned, he'll play his 2nd round match in Madrid on Tuesday or more likely Wednesday, giving him a extra day or two to relax before he embarrases some poor qualifier.

guga2120
05-04-2010, 06:00 PM
According to him his knees are ok, I still think it would maybe be smarter for him to skip it and be 100% fresh going to Roland Garros. He's got to have bad memories, that match last year ruined the rest of his year.

MacTheKnife
05-04-2010, 06:11 PM
He should play madrid.

duong
05-04-2010, 06:42 PM
the question is over : he will (see article posted by Aenea previous page)

latso
05-04-2010, 07:48 PM
ofc he should

he took his vacation and he can easily skip some mug hard court tournaments later.

He ows this to his Spanish fans and to the FFT :D

Filo V.
05-04-2010, 07:57 PM
He's going to play, so no reason to debate this. He's fine and has shown no indications of injury. Time for the paranoia to die down now.

JolánGagó
05-04-2010, 08:33 PM
No.

laurie-1
05-04-2010, 08:40 PM
I voted No.

Its a nonsense that this tournament was even sanctioned in the 1st place considering there are so many tournaments before the French. Money talks and complete overkill - just like Cricket, too many touyrnaments in a short space of time.

But will the good people of Madrid even turn up this year? Last year on television the stands always looked empty.

Topspin Forehand
05-04-2010, 08:43 PM
I voted No.

Its a nonsense that this tournament was even sanctioned in the 1st place considering there are so many tournaments before the French. Money talks and complete overkill - just like Cricket, too many touyrnaments in a short space of time.

But will the good people of Madrid even turn up this year? Last year on television the stands always looked empty.
I'm for making Barcelona a MS 1000. Add another week to the clay season and reduce Madrid to the clown of a tournament it deserves. 500 event.

JolánGagó
05-04-2010, 08:48 PM
I voted No.

Its a nonsense that this tournament was even sanctioned in the 1st place considering there are so many tournaments before the French. Money talks and complete overkill - just like Cricket, too many touyrnaments in a short space of time.

But will the good people of Madrid even turn up this year? Last year on television the stands always looked empty.

They were empty for the same reason as in so many other tournaments, most of the seats are corporate-VIP... plus Madrid crowd cares shit about tennis really.

Lopez
05-04-2010, 08:54 PM
This article (http://www.larazon.es/noticia/6929-toni-nadal-esta-a-su-mejor-nivel) is reporting Nadal's camp has decided Rafa is playing Madrid and they'll be there on Thursday. Toni Nadal says Rafa is at his best at the level of 2008, playing with no pain and with the week break between tournaments his schedule is very good.

Great news :yeah:. Tennis benefits from a healthy Nadal.

The clowns will spin this if he loses, naturally :p

Persimmon
05-04-2010, 08:59 PM
Somewhere in Estoril right now Rodge is smiling. Just hand the RG trophy to Rodge again this year. I'm betting on Rodge defending his RG this year.

RedFury
05-04-2010, 10:56 PM
... plus Madrid crowd cares shit about tennis really.

Oh really? Wonder what over 20,000 Madrileños are watching here?

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82933435.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA5486302FF5EDE8ED0F6 628D20CE3594B547CCAEEF8195783CD8E30A760B0D811297

Go take your cheap shots elsewhere, dipsh*t.

Topspin Forehand
05-04-2010, 11:09 PM
Somewhere in Estoril right now Rodge is smiling. Just hand the RG trophy to Rodge again this year. I'm betting on Rodge defending his RG this year.
lol You crack me up. Nadal's schedule is just fine.

scoobs
05-04-2010, 11:15 PM
Nadal will complete the sweep of the three Masters on clay + Roland Garros this year, now that he skipped Barcelona

Topspin Forehand
05-05-2010, 12:50 AM
Nadal will complete the sweep of the three Masters on clay + Roland Garros this year, now that he skipped Barcelona
Exactly. I don't know why some think Nadal is overplaying. 5 matches every 2 weeks is hardly exhausting.

RedFury
05-05-2010, 02:06 AM
Somewhere in Estoril right now Rodge is smiling. Just hand the RG trophy to Rodge again this year. I'm betting on Rodge defending his RG this year.

How much?

paseo
05-05-2010, 02:19 AM
Of course, he should.

Somewhere in Estoril right now Rodge is smiling. Just hand the RG trophy to Rodge again this year. I'm betting on Rodge defending his RG this year.

Who in the hell is this "Rodge"?

andy neyer
05-05-2010, 03:02 AM
How much?

0 obviously.

That guy just likes to make erroneous predictions.

Ibracadabra
05-05-2010, 03:04 AM
Andy murray shall win RG

CastleVaniaFan
05-05-2010, 03:53 AM
if djoko wins belgrade and makes the final in madrid losing to nadal and roger doesnt make the quarters in both estoril and madrid, RG is gonna a hellova fun tourney to watch this year. :cool:
may the best man defend or take the #1 spot :worship:

Mechlan
05-05-2010, 05:21 AM
Haven't seen anything about Nadal being injured, so he absolutely should. Be sensible about the scheduling and he should be fine.

Topspin Forehand
05-05-2010, 06:34 AM
To make these tournaments even less exhausting, It would be nice for the players to have a day in the middle of the tournament. Not saying playing 5 days in a row is overwhelming but it probably would help to have a day off in the middle. Like start everyone on Tuesday instead of Wednesday and get Thursday off.

andy neyer
05-05-2010, 06:44 AM
To make these tournaments even less exhausting, It would be nice for the players to have a day in the middle of the tournament. Not saying playing 5 days in a row is overwhelming but it probably would help to have a day off in the middle. Like start everyone on Tuesday instead of Wednesday and get Thursday off.

Eliminating the byes would be a good idea first.

top players start playing on wednesday because that's usually when the second round starts. Proposing that they should start playing on tuesday just to preserve the physical shape of the top guys would only make the MS even more unfair than what they already are.

Topspin Forehand
05-05-2010, 07:50 AM
Eliminating the byes would be a good idea first.

top players start playing on wednesday because that's usually when the second round starts. Proposing that they should start playing on tuesday just to preserve the physical shape of the top guys would only make the MS even more unfair than what they already are.
It would help the people playing on Monday as well to have Thursday off if they get that far. Maybe even start the tournament on Sunday to get those players without byes another day of rest.

MariaV
05-05-2010, 08:08 AM
Exactly. I don't know why some think Nadal is overplaying. 5 matches every 2 weeks is hardly exhausting.

IF the knees don't give up again. :scared: He must be very careful now.

NADALbULLS
05-05-2010, 02:04 PM
He got injured at Indian Wells last year, so it was very different. He didn't play well even when he was winning Monte Carlo last year, because he his knee was hurting since Indian Wells. So he should have skipped all the clay events before Roland Garros last year. Different story this year.

Topspin Forehand
05-05-2010, 05:04 PM
He got injured at Indian Wells last year, so it was very different. He didn't play well even when he was winning Monte Carlo last year, because he his knee was hurting since Indian Wells. So he should have skipped all the clay events before Roland Garros last year. Different story this year.
I think you can go farthur back than that. Nadal playing almost 10 hours in 2 matches and then playing the Rotterdam tournament and playing many 3 set matches all the way to the final and losing to Murray. He was hobbling badly at the end of it.

RedFury
05-05-2010, 07:12 PM
I think you can go farthur back than that. Nadal playing almost 10 hours in 2 matches and then playing the Rotterdam tournament and playing many 3 set matches all the way to the final and losing to Murray. He was hobbling badly at the end of it.

Yup. I think playing Rotterdam under the conditions he did, was the silver bullet that ended-up costing him the season.

DrJules
05-05-2010, 10:49 PM
Nadal will complete the sweep of the three Masters on clay + Roland Garros this year, now that he skipped Barcelona

Nadal would probably have benefited from missing Barcelona in other years.

NADALbULLS
05-06-2010, 08:47 AM
I think you can go farthur back than that. Nadal playing almost 10 hours in 2 matches and then playing the Rotterdam tournament and playing many 3 set matches all the way to the final and losing to Murray. He was hobbling badly at the end of it.

Exacterly.