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Rome R3: Gulbis def Volandri 6-2 3-6 7-6 (4)

Action Jackson
04-29-2010, 03:44 PM
Entertaining match, now take out LaLo.

Bilbo
04-29-2010, 03:44 PM
bad for the game when someone wins with 60 UEs

rocketassist
04-29-2010, 03:45 PM
Great entertainment from both. :yeah:

Now destroy LaLo.

Swiss Mountain
04-29-2010, 03:46 PM
Audience booed Gulbis; idiots! See, the french aren't the worst! ;)

River
04-29-2010, 03:46 PM
Gulby was screwing up near the end of the match with some really messed up shots. Tried to give it away.

His serve helped him.

fabolous
04-29-2010, 03:46 PM
gulbis groundstrokes were faster than pippos service, but still he barely beat him.

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 03:46 PM
So close Filo, but I am so proud of that performance from you. Pippo has one of the most beautiful games to watch of any ATP player.

As far as Gulbis, that 3/17 break point conversion definitely didn't help matters, but I never doubted he would eventually win. Served well when he needed, and did just enough to get by. Entertaining match.

Noleta
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Great effort by both men,strange match though:lol:

Volandri:hug:Gave his all,but Gulbis was just a little bit better.

Tennisman82
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Good match, exciting in some parts. Gulbis has developed into a feisty retriever on clay! Some of his misses are wild...almost young Federer-like.

Tennisman82.

2moretogo
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Very interesting. Gulbis may have just turned a corner, as old Gulbis would have folded like a cheap tent, but he stayed engaged out there when nothing was going his way.

Good job (except for going 3/17 on bps).

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Gulby was screwing up near the end of the match with some really messed up shots. Tried to give it away.

His serve helped him.

His serve saved him.

Action Jackson
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Volandri had a couple of chokes in the tiebreaker that would have been fitting in a S&M club.

Voo de Mar
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Very good for Gulbis' mental stability to win back-to-back matches 7-5 and 7-6 in the third after wasting match points earlier in the progress. I see that he is finally more focused on the game and can keep concentration through longer period of time, also tries to mix things up. Obviously he made many unforced errors as usual but today near the end was very patient :yeah:

out_here_grindin
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
bad for the game when someone wins with 60 UEs

at least he's no pusher right?

henke007
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Who would have thought Mug Open would open up on this side of the Draw.

Anyway Gulbis avoided a disaster of sending Volandri to face Lopez in the 1/4..

oranges
04-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Keep going Erno :yeah:

bad for the game when someone wins with 60 UEs

Much better when you play "chess tennis" with 3 winners and count on those errors, no?

fanfare
04-29-2010, 03:48 PM
bad for the game when someone wins with 60 UEs

wtf? actually, It'd be bad if mr slice advanced to qf.

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 03:49 PM
Volandri had a couple of chokes in the tiebreaker that would have been fitting in a S&M club.

Yeah. That forehand miss at *3-2 was unforgivable. He would have had a real chance to win had he made it. But I didn't expect anything different.

osalsyst
04-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Volandri choked that tiebreak. Went up a minibreak *3-2 and followed it up with two pretty shameful misses. He also had like 3 15-30 return games in a row midway through the third. Hope he can keep this form up though.

Having said that, Gulbis had the mp at 5-4* and probably should have closed it out there. He hit wide by an inch in that rally. He also should've broken Volandri early in the set. But that's what happens in matches like this. Both players have chances.

ad-out
04-29-2010, 03:51 PM
Just unbelievable that Ernests managed to win. Really happy that he got through this. Next Feli - who got a walkover today.

enigma
04-29-2010, 03:53 PM
bad for the game when someone wins with 60 UEs




54:devil:

Voo de Mar
04-29-2010, 03:53 PM
He also had like 3 15-30 return games in a row midway through the third. Hope he can keep this form up though.


Yes, Volandri had three times 30-15 on Gulbis' serve in the third but the Latvian always served well in that moment.

Jomp1
04-29-2010, 03:53 PM
High entertainment, and amazing tennis mixed with a lot of unforced. Kinda strange one, but I'm glad Gulbis got thru.

gorgo1986
04-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Good Job Ernests, he is in the Quarters now!!!

seljanin
04-29-2010, 03:54 PM
Very scrappy win. Both players were very nervous at the end of the match. Volandri fought very well in front of his home crowd.

Pippo has one of the most beautiful games to watch of any ATP player.

Just out of curiosity, what is so special and beautiful about Volandri's game? This is not meant as a bashing comment, I'd just like to know, what I cannot notice myself probably.

Voo de Mar
04-29-2010, 03:54 PM
BTW, I think Gulbis has already hair long enough to use a bandana :o :lol:

*Jean*
04-29-2010, 03:54 PM
Ernests :yeah:

duong
04-29-2010, 03:56 PM
I haven't seen the match but wanted to say it's nice to read analyses to know about what happened, instead of the usual match's "mug/choke/good for the game/etc" comments which tell me nothing :lol:

:yeah:

Hellraiser
04-29-2010, 03:57 PM
A really nice tournament for Pippo boost him to about #120 in the ranks. CC season is wide open for him to comeback to the TOP100.

-Valhalla-
04-29-2010, 03:57 PM
Unbelievable. A hugely entertaining match in front of a raucous home-town crowd. Gulbis got sucked into Volandri’s style of play and was pushing the ball in the 2nd and 3rd sets. Luckily, his big serve was there to bail him out.

This was NOT a confidence inspiring win, and how he managed to eke this one out, I’ll never know. Nevertheless, a win is a win and it was good to see him backup his victory against Fed. Next time, he needs to spend less time questioning line calls and more time focusing on the match.

Bilbo
04-29-2010, 04:00 PM
at least he's no pusher right?

if it helps him winning many slams...

DJ Soup
04-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Volandri was aesthetically pleasing.
shame that's not enough

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Very scrappy win. Both players were very nervous at the end of the match. Volandri fought very well in front of his home crowd.



Just out of curiosity, what is so special and beautiful about Volandri's game? This is not meant as a bashing comment, I'd just like to know, what I cannot notice myself probably.

His free flowing shots, his movement, his timing of the ball, how he is able to move his opponents around so intelligently and use all of the court to his advantage. That's what I love about his game.

Guy Haines
04-29-2010, 04:14 PM
Volandri was aesthetically pleasing.
shame that's not enough

He's aesthetically pleasing in white bikini swimsuit pics.

But seriously, he volleys exceptionally on clay. Volandri could do more than his usual run in Italy. He used to test Nadal on clay. I wonder if he'll ever have the kind of French he could.

This is not a small win for Gulbis, since it came after the one against Federer and the Romans were a step away from stoning him for much of the match.

ad-out
04-29-2010, 04:21 PM
This is not a small win for Gulbis, since it came after the one against Federer and the Romans were a step away from stoning him for much of the match.

:lol: So true! The crowd was awful to poor little Gulbiscuit.. :awww:

Guy Haines
04-29-2010, 04:26 PM
:lol: So true! The crowd was awful to poor little Gulbiscuit.. :awww:

A couple of years back in similar circumstances - at the USO against Roddick in a night match - Ernests folded like a cheap tent. So it was good to see him tune out the whistles and play on.

ad-out
04-29-2010, 04:39 PM
A couple of years back in similar circumstances - at the USO against Roddick in a night match - Ernests folded like a cheap tent. So it was good to see him tune out the whistles and play on.


Yes I remember the match well! It was on his birthday.. :awww:

Smoke944
04-29-2010, 04:43 PM
Damn, too bad for Volandri. If he could have pulled this out he would have Lopez for a spot in the semis, which would be absolutely enormous considering the points and the fact he has been messing around in challengers for the last couple years. Good tournament for him anyway.

Congrats, Ernests :)

philosophicalarf
04-29-2010, 04:46 PM
Gulbis was folding in the rallies, but the serve stayed nice and steady, and even improved as the match went on. Useful trick.

Mats68
04-29-2010, 04:50 PM
Very scrappy win. Both players were very nervous at the end of the match. Volandri fought very well in front of his home crowd.



Just out of curiosity, what is so special and beautiful about Volandri's game? This is not meant as a bashing comment, I'd just like to know, what I cannot notice myself probably.

I agree, everytime someone has a one hand backhand "his game is just beautiful and so crafty". That's BS.
In the case of Volandri, how can someone with that hilarious serve motion have a beautiful game?

Spadea TT
04-29-2010, 04:52 PM
I agree, everytime someone has a one hand backhand "his game is just beautiful and so crafty". That's BS.
In the case of Volandri, how can someone with that hilarious serve motion have a beautiful game?

I think that a game based on service bombs is awful game to watch. I like long rallies.

Mats68
04-29-2010, 05:00 PM
I think that a game based on service bombs is awful game to watch. I like long rallies.

I love long rallies and point construction. But I don't understand why whenever a player has a one handed backhand and plays a couple of drop shots his game is considered beautiful. Maybe because they're minority now and remind people of the Good old times of tennis (Panatta, Nastase, Laver, etc.). Personally, I like today's clay court game much better than the one of the 80s or 90s, for instance. Today no one is a total retriever anymore (except Murray).

andy neyer
04-29-2010, 05:02 PM
Mental giant this Gulbis.

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 05:08 PM
Damn, too bad for Volandri. If he could have pulled this out he would have Lopez for a spot in the semis, which would be absolutely enormous considering the points and the fact he has been messing around in challengers for the last couple years. Good tournament for him anyway.

Congrats, Ernests :)

I wanted him to win too, but he has essentially nothing to defend for months. He'll be in the 120 range, so only one or 2 good tournaments should put him in the top 100, maybe after RG. And, I don't know if he could have defended SF points here next year, so he might have slipped down the ranks again.

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 05:16 PM
I agree, everytime someone has a one hand backhand "his game is just beautiful and so crafty". That's BS.
In the case of Volandri, how can someone with that hilarious serve motion have a beautiful game?

Because there is more to the game than a serve.

I don't remember hearing anyone calling Gonzalez crafty and beautiful, most call him just powerful. I don't remember hearing many people saying Robredo has a beautiful game, most simply think he's defensive. I don't think I've ever heard the word "crafty" connected to Almagro's game. I don't think I've heard people say Daniel Brands' game is beautiful either.

Seems as if to me you personally don't think Volandri's game is good or pleasing to the eye. Which is your opinion, but it certainly has nothing to do with bias of one-handed backhands.

Mats68
04-29-2010, 05:52 PM
Because there is more to the game than a serve.

I don't remember hearing anyone calling Gonzalez crafty and beautiful, most call him just powerful. I don't remember hearing many people saying Robredo has a beautiful game, most simply think he's defensive. I don't think I've ever heard the word "crafty" connected to Almagro's game. I don't think I've heard people say Daniel Brands' game is beautiful either.

Seems as if to me you personally don't think Volandri's game is good or pleasing to the eye. Which is your opinion, but it certainly has nothing to do with bias of one-handed backhands.

Come on, you hear it all the time: if Gasquet, Wawrinka, Almagro or even Robredo make a running bh down the line passing shot, it's just "oooh, so beautiful". If Ferrer does the same thing, then it's just a proof that "he's a very athletic player that never gives up".

As to Volandri, I don't dislike his game (apart from his WTAish serve) but I don't think it's more beautiful than many others. Personally I tend to like mentally stronger players, perhaps with a "less beautiful game", but who don't choke easy put away volleys in the final tie break

Nidhogg
04-29-2010, 07:09 PM
Gulbis needs to stop being so wasteful with his chances. Great effort from Volandri.

born_on_clay
04-29-2010, 07:16 PM
Too close to my liking Ernests

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-29-2010, 08:05 PM
Great match..hope Gulbis takes out lopez, hes the much better player. Good of the organisers to schedule this on centre

Jimnik
04-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Could be such a crucial run this for Ernie. Winning two tight matches against the GOAT(?) and home crowd favourite.

Next match is very winnable. Really hope he takes advantage.

Corey Feldman
04-29-2010, 10:25 PM
congrats on getting closer to beating Gulbis than Federer did, #300 atp player

Filo V.
04-29-2010, 11:42 PM
Come on, you hear it all the time: if Gasquet, Wawrinka, Almagro or even Robredo make a running bh down the line passing shot, it's just "oooh, so beautiful". If Ferrer does the same thing, then it's just a proof that "he's a very athletic player that never gives up".

As to Volandri, I don't dislike his game (apart from his WTAish serve) but I don't think it's more beautiful than many others. Personally I tend to like mentally stronger players, perhaps with a "less beautiful game", but who don't choke easy put away volleys in the final tie break

Just today they were talking about how it's beautiful to see Nadal play on clay, and he has a two handed backhand. You must think there is a bias against two handed backhands, or one handed backhands are given more glory. Well, one handed backhands DO look more elegant IMO. So that's maybe what you are seeing. One handed backhands are much more free flowing. But Djokovic, his backhand is always talked about positively. Murray as well. So I don't really agree that announcers only talk positively about one handed backhands due to bias.

Mental strength, while obviously an important thing, has nothing really to do with whether a player has a game pleasing to the eye. Gasquet has a game pleasing to the eye, and look at him. Safin had a game pleasing to the eye but didn't do everything he could have in his career.

orangehat
04-30-2010, 05:59 AM
I miss Volandri's unorthodox groundies in tennis of today.