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What is happening with Federer?

Fed=ATPTourkilla
04-27-2010, 05:58 PM
Why is it that the world #1 can't seem to win a match?

Why is there such a massive disparity between how he played at the AO and how he has played at all the other tournaments?

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:00 PM
He's still a good player but he happens to play bad in the early rounds. Plus he's a bit of a mental midget.

rwn
04-27-2010, 06:02 PM
The same thing that happened to Sampras.

Bijoux0021
04-27-2010, 06:03 PM
Federer's reduced schedule has not been good for him at non-slam events.

Roamed
04-27-2010, 06:04 PM
He's become a bad front-runner in the last few months.

Anyway we should wait for the slams before declaring anything decisively.

Noleta
04-27-2010, 06:07 PM
Nothing....he'll be a force to beat at slams.

alter ego
04-27-2010, 06:08 PM
I guess a big part of the reason is lack of motivation. He has all the records, he has won RG, he will beat Sampras record of most weeks as a number one.

theseth1119
04-27-2010, 06:08 PM
It's a simple as this, he ONLY cares about grand slams. He doesn't care about the other events at all. He deliberately tanks them, plays half heartedly, and only shows up because he's required to.

gulzhan
04-27-2010, 06:08 PM
Hopefully, the first ;)

ApproachShot
04-27-2010, 06:11 PM
He's in a slump at the moment. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a bit like last year - only worse. Whilst I don't think he will be back to his best, I certainly don't think he is finished.

I think he'll be stuck 1 week behind Sampras for the total weeks at no. 1 record. But if he can find back his form by the hard court season and delivers strong performances at the slams, he could be in with a shot about this time next year.

Haelfix
04-27-2010, 06:11 PM
Federer is a rhythm player, and always has been. It doesn't help that he's playing good players in opening rounds before he can find his game.

However its more than that, and you can see that he can't find the timing on his shots. Its nothing to do with mental, lack of effort or whatever, but really a muscle memory problem.

He's a little less fast, a little less strong, and doesn't hit with the same racquet head speed that he once did. Consequently you need to adjust the timing on his swings, except that his old muscle memory is playing games with him and he can't quite settle it down.

He had this problem in 08 for awhile, and it took him a few months to settle himself down and find his range

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:11 PM
Nothing....he'll be a force to beat at slams.

Something evidently happened to him. He used to win non-GS events all the time in his prime years...

He's just not in his prime anymore, it's that simple.

philosophicalarf
04-27-2010, 06:11 PM
2007+, Fed has won 13% of the masters and 54% of the slams.

What could it all mean? :devil:

Matt01
04-27-2010, 06:12 PM
I guess a big part of the reason is lack of motivation.


+1

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:14 PM
It's a simple as this, he ONLY cares about grand slams. He doesn't care about the other events at all. He deliberately tanks them, plays half heartedly, and only shows up because he's required to.

What a clownish response. He obviously cares but he's just not prepared enough to win them. If he didn't care about non GS, then he would have never put Estoril in his schedule.

SetSampras
04-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Lazy, no focus, doesn't care about non slam events anymore... Or... Its just a mental game.. Watch he will breeze through to the finals where he beats Nadal.


People have been saying this shit for 2 years... Oh Roger is washed up etc.. Then all of a sudden the slam hits and he miraculously makes the final or wins the slam always..


Federer cares about non slam events? Bottom line is if he gave two shits he would be getting past the 2nd round of these events. He isnt washed up because he still has reached slam final there is.. Its proof that he doesnt care about non slam events.

Noleta
04-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Something evidently happened to him. He used to win non-GS events all the time in his prime years...

He's just not in his prime anymore, it's that simple.

He's 28 yrs old,of course he's not in his prime:shrug:Mtf going into a frenzy,cause he lost in a master event?His second match on clay,played against a good player,no need for the alarm bells;)

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:18 PM
2007+, Fed has won 13% of the masters and 54% of the slams.

What could it all mean? :devil:

It means that:

1- Federer feels more confident in the best of three sets format given that in those type of matches he can afford to have somewhat prolongued lapses of bad play (something that's highly frequent in Fed's game in MS and GS) but in the best of two sets format he can't because the cost is much higher.

2- The players he's facing feel more pressure to beat Federer in a best-of-five sets format because they know they will be forced to sustain a great level of play for a longer time whether in best-of-three sets they only have to play good for 2 hours tops to win.

3- Federer usually enters GS more prepared physically and also in terms of playing time.

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:21 PM
Lazy, no focus, doesn't care about non slam events anymore... Or... Its just a mental game.. Watch he will breeze through to the finals where he beats Nadal.


People have been saying this shit for 2 years... Oh Roger is washed up etc.. Then all of a sudden the slam hits and he miraculously makes the final or wins the slam always..


Federer cares about non slam events? Bottom line is if he gave two shits he would be getting past the 2nd round of these events. He isnt washed up because he still has reached slam final there is.. Its proof that he doesnt care about non slam events.

No. It's proof that you only seem to look for the simplest answers without trying to look at the big picture.

Based on Federer emotional responses to MS losses, it's obvious he does care. No-one who has won so much and with the ego Federer has could be indifferent to losses.

Filo V.
04-27-2010, 06:24 PM
I'll wait until the French Open comes and goes before worrying about where Roger is at this point. Roger for the most part plays for majors now (outside of his desire for the #1 ranking), so losses like these are par for the course. I think he cares and that he isn't tanking, but it's hard to win matches after not playing in a 1+ month and not preparing yourself mentally and physically for matches like this against a good playing opponent. He isn't match tough and he isn't confident but he has shown he can turn it on when need be.

SetSampras
04-27-2010, 06:25 PM
No. It's proof that you only seem to look for the simplest answers without trying to look at the big picture.

Based on Federer emotional responses to MS losses, it's obvious he does care. No-one who has won so much and with the ego Federer has could be indifferent to losses.




Where is there a reason for Roger to care at this point at anything other than slams and extending the count with those and to reach Sampras' 286 weeks of number 1 ? Federer has been there and done the rest. Winning Rome isn't really going to do much more for his resume at this point.. Getting more slams would help I suppose

scoobs
04-27-2010, 06:25 PM
Nothing is happening to Federer until we see this form at a slam.

Then let's talk.

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:25 PM
He's 28 yrs old,of course he's not in his prime:shrug:

Then why say nothing has happened to him when the answer was obvious?

Mtf going into a frenzy,cause he lost in a master event?His second match on clay,played against a good player,no need for the alarm bells;)

MTF tends to overreact quite a bit but the readers only help to that reaction. I don't see this particular thread as a response to the fact that Federer lost today and that's it but more in the global scheme of things in which Federer has been sucking (relatively speaking here of course) at MS for years now. His loss to Gulbis today was just one more drop in the same glass.

Priam
04-27-2010, 06:27 PM
I don't understand this. If he lacked motivation for Rome, what more Estoril/Madrid?? Oh well 5 weeks more til RG, Rog.

gulzhan
04-27-2010, 06:27 PM
Fed needs diet. Or some exersises for tammy. It's too big and slows him down.

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:29 PM
Where is there a reason for Roger to care at this point at anything other than slams and extending the count with those and to reach Sampras' 286 weeks of number 1 ? Federer has been there and done the rest. Winning Rome isn't really going to do much more for his resume at this point.. Getting more slams would help I suppose

Why wouldn't it? Many people do care for non GS tournaments. The way you and others talk about GS around here is quite frankly a bit ridiculous, imo.

And even if he considered MS don't add anything to his "resume", do you think that he really feels indifferent about losing? Of course he wants to win. His body language during matches and the sad press conferences he gives are a testament to this.

Matt01
04-27-2010, 06:33 PM
What a clownish response. He obviously cares but he's just not prepared enough to win them. If he didn't care about non GS, then he would have never put Estoril in his schedule.


Federer put Estoril into his schedule to have more matches to be prepared for his RG-title-defence, and not because he cares about Estoril :lol:

Fedicilous
04-27-2010, 06:33 PM
I'm sad about today's loss, but of course I agree with arguments that he cares only about slams.
His display in minor events is quite awful, especially blowing the match points.

But it means nothing. Just look at Australian Open, and his nerves of steal in third set tie-break against Murray, or the 5-5 game against Davydenko in quarters. No mistakes, cruelly good display.

Matt01
04-27-2010, 06:34 PM
Nothing is happening to Federer until we see this form at a slam.

Then let's talk.


Exactly.

andy neyer
04-27-2010, 06:43 PM
Federer put Estoril into his schedule to have more matches to be prepared for his RG-title-defence, and not because he cares about Estoril :lol:

Actually, in a big way I agree with that. Still, let's assume that what you say is 100% true. If Federer is playing Estoril just to be better prepared for RG then it would have to follow that Federer would have to care about Estoril too. After all, if Estoril is his preparation for RG, then he would have to care for it or otherwise he would care for his main objective which is RG.


I'm sad about today's loss, but of course I agree with arguments that he cares only about slams.
His display in minor events is quite awful, especially blowing the match points.

But it means nothing. Just look at Australian Open, and his nerves of steal in third set tie-break against Murray, or the 5-5 game against Davydenko in quarters. No mistakes, cruelly good display.

You talk as if Federer only chokes matches in non-GS which is not the case. It obviously happens a lot more in non-GS but I have different explanations for that that don't start with the "He doesn't care about non-GS" type of arguments.

DJ Soup
04-27-2010, 06:48 PM
I see a confidence issue.
He is not hitting with confidence.

That UE that gave Gulbis his first matchpoint shows that to me.

FNT
04-27-2010, 07:06 PM
It's a combination of 1 and 3, he's obviously past his prime and can't beat lesser players on autopilot, but at the same time the reason he's on autopilot is that he couldn't be bothered with non-Slams anymore.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
04-27-2010, 08:44 PM
Overwhelming vote for #1 and #3. I thought #2 might score a few more votes. So the MTF view is that he's past his sell-by-date and couldn't give a sh*t.

HKz
04-27-2010, 08:53 PM
Something evidently happened to him. He used to win non-GS events all the time in his prime years...

He's just not in his prime anymore, it's that simple.

Well no crap Sherlock. He clearly doesn't put the same mental game at non-GS events since 2007.

Prime or not, he was still bringing the heat at the slams regardless of how poorly he was doing outside of them. Who knows whether it is because players feel like they have more of a chance to beat him when it is only best of 3 sets, or if he is truly trying to save his body for just the slams so he doesn't play at full steam.

Obviously his peak was in between 2005/2006/2007, with perhaps TMC 2007 being the last time he played extremely well outside of a slam throughout the whole tournament. He had some great moments in 2008/2009 in non-GS events, but nothing extraordinary like pre-2007.

Fact is if he fails at the French early, then someone can blow the whistle, but right now I really don't think this will affect him. He has bounced back from plenty of other losses which have elicted plenty of "omg federer is done" "federer wont win a slam" type of threads and has come back to surpass expectations at the slams.

duong
04-27-2010, 08:58 PM
Great Baghdatis and lung infection in Indian Wells, laziness in Miami, bad draw in Roma.

he's not the one he was in 2007, yet in 2007 in those 3 tournaments he lost to Canas, Canas and Volandri :lol:

oz_boz
04-27-2010, 09:26 PM
1 and 3. But as many said, when this happens in a slam it's worth discussing, not before that.

rkellymacon
04-27-2010, 10:07 PM
Option #3 fits him. When Roland Garros rolls around, we will see him approaching his best form again. He is evolving into the Serena Williams of the men's game, which is okay because he has nothing left to prove. Why shouldn't he give maximum effort to the major coming up in three weeks? People will remember how many French Open's, not how many Italian Open's. It would be nice to win both though lol

Sunset of Age
04-27-2010, 10:14 PM
Option #3 fits him. When Roland Garros rolls around, we will see him approaching his best form again.

I'll buy you a beer if that indeed happens. :angel:

enzogiovanni
04-27-2010, 10:27 PM
Non of the above.
The truth is that roger has mono, as he had in the Aus.Open 2009. :wavey::wavey::wavey:

Fed Fan
04-27-2010, 10:30 PM
It's pretty clear that Federer does not really care about non-Grand Slam events now. There is only a few times I'd expect to see Federer put in a good shift in a Masters Series is, for instance, when he needs to top up his ranking points to secure his position as world number one.

This does not mean to say Federer is deliberately losing matches. A lot of your performance comes from your motivation to win. In my view, Federer wants to win matches, but if his heart is not really in the tournament, he will never come up with that bit extra to do so. That said, it would also not surprise me to learn that Federer says to himself he is going to play as well as he can without risking an injury or fatigue. If he wins, great; if not, who cares?

nanoman
04-27-2010, 10:31 PM
Not willing to go the extra mile for these events. Which means woeful preparation, playing on automatic pilot during matches, no changing gameplans, no gamemanship(you won't see him pull a toilet-break like against Davydenko during these matches). Of course he still wants to win them. But if things don't go his way, then so be it. That's the feeling I get when I watch him. And I won't be surprised if Roger is going to treat Roland Garros the same way. It would require too much effort and really, there isn't much for him to win if Nadal doesn't bomb out. Wimbledon for him is the main course now.

federernadalfan
04-27-2010, 10:32 PM
he likes best of five than best of three

heya
04-27-2010, 10:43 PM
It's called physically stronger & faster, unbrainwashed opponents who actually didn't let their sympathy for Federer block their talent. Something Federer can't wish to go away. Truth makes him cry.

laurie-1
04-27-2010, 10:48 PM
I voted the 3rd option. Federer is a different player at the slams, as someone else pointed out, the other guys feel more pressure to beat him in a best of 5 situation.

Bargearse
04-27-2010, 10:53 PM
Once upon a time, Federer could be in a losing position in ANY tournament, spray forehands all over and do nothing special but get the ball back into play at crucial moments & watch his opponent self destruct and just hand it to him, a la Berdych (AO 2009?) and many others along the way. That almost happened last night with Gulbis blowing 6 match points but Federer uncharacteristically could not hold his serve when he really needed to - something he was once able to do on demand. Obviously with no match practice, Fed wasn't equipped to handle a player like Gulbis who is on a hot streak.

He's older now, married & has 2 babies at home and a good buddy battling sex addiction :rolleyes:. Obviously he has adjusted his priorities & his mind isn't on the job at hand. When did Fed last win a non-slam? The passion and motivation clearly aren't there in these 'lesser' events. That's not to say he's deliberately tanking, but I don't think he's giving it 100% - at least not mentally.

But you can be sure he'll be there 110% at Roland Garros. :yeah:

duong
04-27-2010, 11:07 PM
between slams and MS100 tournaments I think the main difference for him is preparation :

- for Indian Wells he had had lung infection not to practice long

- for Miami he had obviously been lazy to prepare because he was poor his all 3 matches

- today Roma was his first clay tournament : not surprising that for a first match he doesn't play his best, like every year but this year he had a bad draw :shrug:

He arranges his schedule and preparation to be at best for slams.

Moreover he's had a problem with tight 3 set-matches recently : I think he doesn't like them because you're so early near the end and near to defeat, he knows that luck is peculiarly involved in those moments and he cannot really control :lol:

habibko
04-27-2010, 11:45 PM
he hasn't shouted a single "come on" in his match today, this for me is a sign that he wasn't willing to spill blood out there in order to get the win, he would never do this in a GS match, not yet at least.

not very long ago, he was crushing everyone in his way JesusFed style, some delusional posters here need to re-watch his matches against Hewitt, Tsonga and Murray in this year's AO.

however, I'm disappointed with him, these early round losses could come back to hurt him later on when he needs the points to remain the world #1, he should have put more emotional and mental effort in this match, I hope he does that in Estoril and Madrid, breaking Sampras's record should be one of his main goals this year.

duong
04-27-2010, 11:49 PM
not very long ago, he was crushing everyone in his way JesusFed style, some delusional posters here need to re-watch his matches against Hewitt, Tsonga and Murray in this year's AO.

and what about the one against Andreev ?

Nole fan
04-27-2010, 11:54 PM
I think it's a bit of both... not finding his rhythm yet and not caring much for anything other than slams... But he will be a danger in the big events as usual.

screenerluv
04-27-2010, 11:57 PM
he's afraid to play nadal.

Gnomey
04-27-2010, 11:58 PM
I know winning is not synonymous with loving the game...but when Federer says no one loves the game more than he does, and then he comes out with a performance like this...

MrChopin
04-28-2010, 12:06 AM
He's a transitional champ. Next question?

It's called physically stronger & faster, unbrainwashed opponents who actually didn't let their sympathy for Federer block their talent. Something Federer can't wish to go away. Truth makes him cry.

Yep, that is its name.

habibko
04-28-2010, 12:18 AM
and what about the one against Andreev ?

firstly, Andreev ALWAYS gave him troubles with his heavy topspin forehand, there are no easy matches for Fed against him.

then what about his match against Davydenko there? or against Del Potro in USO, or Haas in RG, and the list goes on, I'm not saying he will never play badly in GSs, I'm saying that he is still capable of playing his best tennis where it really matters, and that's at GSs, and he did that at the last GS which he won.

all these comments about him suddenly getting old and worse because he is losing close matches outside of GSs are ridiculous.

andy neyer
04-28-2010, 12:28 AM
Well no crap Sherlock..

Well, it was an obvious answer to an obvious question. What happened to Federer? He's past his prime. Pure and simple.

He clearly doesn't put the same mental game at non-GS events since 2007.

Fed certainly doesn't enter GS with the same mental framework that he enters non-GS. In that sense we agree. However, I don't agree with the OPINION that he doesn't care for non GS events.

Prime or not, he was still bringing the heat at the slams regardless of how poorly he was doing outside of them. Who knows whether it is because players feel like they have more of a chance to beat him when it is only best of 3 sets, or if he is truly trying to save his body for just the slams so he doesn't play at full steam.

We cannot know for sure. We only have opinions on the matter... Yeah

Obviously his peak was in between 2005/2006/2007, with perhaps TMC 2007 being the last time he played extremely well outside of a slam throughout the whole tournament. He had some great moments in 2008/2009 in non-GS events, but nothing extraordinary like pre-2007.

Well, no crap, Sherlock.. ;)

Fact is if he fails at the French early, then someone can blow the whistle, but right now I really don't think this will affect him. He has bounced back from plenty of other losses which have elicted plenty of "omg federer is done" "federer wont win a slam" type of threads and has come back to surpass expectations at the slams.

Nah. If Federer fails at the RG, nothing will happen except that the SF streak will be over. To me he will still be the favourite for Wimby even if he loses in the first round of RG.
Imo, Federer's SF could have ended in Australia this year but Davydenko's game collapsed for some reason in the second set. If he had lost in THAT QF, everyone here would be saying that he's done but, you know, he isn't. People around guide think too much in terms of results rather than in terms of playing development.

Halba
04-28-2010, 03:06 AM
rafa at full fitness is the most complete player on tour. fed is second best it goes to show.

heya
04-28-2010, 03:13 AM
It's a combination of 1 and 3, he's obviously past his prime and can't beat lesser players on autopilot, but at the same time the reason he's on autopilot is that he couldn't be bothered with non-Slams anymore.
Then again, beating Roddick & Tsonga is different. In that instance, Fedattack cares about his winning machine reputation.

Arkulari
04-28-2010, 03:21 AM
Then again, beating Roddick & Tsonga is different. In that instance, Fedattack cares about his winning machine reputation.

yeah yeah...

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HarryMan
04-28-2010, 03:35 AM
It is a combination of 1 and 3. However, we can emphasize more on point 1 if he loses early at a slam (not when he has won 3 out of the last 4 slams). Until then 3 looks more likely the option. Anything less than a semi final appearance at RG will not be a good result for him.

mark73
04-28-2010, 03:37 AM
Hey this guy was never good to begin with. It's not like hes won 17 grand slams.

Persimmon
04-28-2010, 03:59 AM
He is not deliberately tanking but doesn't care about non-majors.

heya
04-28-2010, 04:30 AM
yeah yeah...
Federer was physically faster than them, and that's what he said. Losing a match won't change the media praise for him. If he was ranked #7, he'd still be complaining about losing to Roddick & Tsonga.

Ilovetheblues_86
04-28-2010, 04:44 AM
He is becoming a fixer, until the day he can bet on himself and then he will win another 2 or 3 grand slams, plus the darkhorse betting money.

r2473
04-28-2010, 04:57 AM
2007+, Fed has won 13% of the masters and 54% of the slams.

What could it all mean? :devil:

To give a serious answer to this, it probably either means:

1) Federer perhaps doesn't try as hard in non-slam events.

But I think more likely

2) Federer is very tough to beat in a 5-set as opposed to a 3-set match.

a)Federer has lost 2 sets numberous times in slam matches.

b)Masters finals used to be best of 5.

iriraz
04-28-2010, 05:21 AM
Federer never plays his best at the start of any tournament and at a Grand Slam he has more time to get himself into the tournament rhythm.
Another problem is that he only played like 5-6 matches in the last 3 months and it is always tough no matter who your opponent is to be consistent when u don`t play a lot of competitive matches

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-28-2010, 05:28 AM
hes never won Rome, don't know why he wouldn't have motivation. i don't like his tiny schedule

heya
04-28-2010, 07:38 AM
2) Federer is very tough to beat in a 5-set as opposed to a 3-set match.

a)Federer has lost 2 sets numberous times in slam matches.

b)Masters finals used to be best of 5.[/QUOTE]-------

Sets & time were not factors in the stolen matches caused by bad umpires:
2004 Indian Wells vs. Agassi
2005 Miami vs. Nadal
Lack of match play & rain delays caused the 2004, 2007 & 2009 Wimbledon collapses of Roddick & Nadal.
Federer wouldn't have cried if the sudden schedule of marathons had robbed Nadal's Australian Open win.

ZakMcCrack
04-28-2010, 09:25 AM
Sets & time were not factors in the stolen matches caused by bad umpires:
2004 Indian Wells vs. Agassi
2005 Miami vs. Nadal
Lack of match play & rain delays caused the 2004, 2007 & 2009 Wimbledon collapses of Roddick & Nadal.
Federer wouldn't have cried if the sudden schedule of marathons had robbed Nadal's Australian Open win.


You know what?

duong
04-28-2010, 09:44 AM
He had very tough opponents at a moment when he was not fully prepared :

Baghdatis in Indian Wells, and Gulbis in Roma, who both played very well imo.

In Indian Wells he had not practiced previous weeks because of his family's lung infection.

In Roma it was his first match on clay and playing against such an opponent, playing well, and giving no rhythm at all, was the worst condition which could happen to him.

In my opinion, apart from bad draws, he didn't play bad comparing to all previous years since 2007 for this moment of the year.

Now the problem for the future is that he has lost those tight matches, he has said "it hurts" in his last interview, and he puts pressure on himself for Roland-Garros.

And that's how matches which were not that bad comparing to previous years may lead him now to a bad following, including in grand slams. Because of losing confidence.

His decline is nothing new : it started in 2007. But this year may be bad luck (except in Melbourne) :shrug:

tennis2tennis
04-28-2010, 11:09 AM
It's physically impossible for Roger to maintain his 2005-06/-07 form; he'll decline because he's HUMAN, but he'll still use his experience and natural skills in the majors, move on!

swebright
04-28-2010, 01:53 PM
another bout of mono :sad::sad:

Forehander
04-28-2010, 01:57 PM
He is 29 and have a family to commit to. Lack of practice and matches. Not exactly brain surgery is it?

-Valhalla-
04-28-2010, 01:58 PM
2) Federer is very tough to beat in a 5-set as opposed to a 3-set match.

Damn near impossible.

born_on_clay
04-28-2010, 02:12 PM
I believe he's focusing on Grand Slams right now
He's not giving a shit about Masters at all...
but
he'll win Estoril :P

Swiss Mountain
04-28-2010, 09:55 PM
Make a retrospectivefrom 2004. You will understand that it's simply his game is not what it use to be. Normal, but hard to accept for fans;
Even in slams he doesn't play like he use to.
But he cares for the Masters; it must hurts to hear otherwise for him.

pesto
04-28-2010, 10:32 PM
I think he needs his nearest rivals to be hotter, in order for him to feel the thrill of competition.

He doesn't care enough about the likes of Gulbis to motivate him, and injuries and slumps from most of the top 10 decoy him into complacency. If they were really snapping at his heels, he'd soon be more alert.

As for caring - I think he wants to care about these non-GS events. He doesn't want to show up only four times a year, but now that he's older and has already achieved so much, he just can't quite find it within him to care enough to focus full-time.

Persimmon
04-29-2010, 02:08 AM
Damn near impossible.

This.

FlameOn
04-29-2010, 09:03 AM
What's happening is, these 'smaller' (ie. less than GS level) tournaments bore him now. He can still play very well when he wants to.

martinatreue
04-29-2010, 09:54 AM
Uhhh.. He has two kids now and 16 GS.... Do ya think that he might have other priorities besides the Masters Series tourneys? Just a guess LOL.

Matt01
04-29-2010, 12:26 PM
Uhhh.. He has two kids now and 16 GS.... Do ya think that he might have other priorities besides the Masters Series tourneys? Just a guess LOL.


You're right, Sherlock.

Tennisman82
04-29-2010, 01:07 PM
Nothing is happening to Federer until we see this form at a slam.

Then let's talk.

Spot on. He has a history of losing early in non-slam tournaments since about 2007, but he’s still rock solid in slams, and everything clicks at the majors (his serve, backhand, etc.).

I think he’ll find his footing on clay in TMS Madrid.

But IMO he’s at the point in his career where even if he doesn’t have a lot of wins under his belt and is not quite comfortable mentally leading up to a major, his game & rhythm will still manage to reappear. Passion, motivation & experience are the key factors here.

Tennisman82.

Tennisman82
04-29-2010, 01:15 PM
What's happening is, these 'smaller' (ie. less than GS level) tournaments bore him now. He can still play very well when he wants to.

Yes. IMO it doesn't take long for Federer to groove his game back into the kind of form that brought him 16 majors.

He's still the man to beat at Roland Garros after Nadal...

Tennisman82.

Acer
04-29-2010, 01:20 PM
MTF will never learn

duong
04-29-2010, 02:51 PM
He's still the man to beat at Roland Garros after Nadal...


yes but far far far far far far behind :lol:

And the "man to beat" ... can be beaten early. Even Nadal was in French Open, it says everything :rolleyes:

Yes, his game will surely "click" from time to time for many years again.

But :

1. he'll not be number 1 (for that even 2 slams and a slam final, which is great even for him, may not be enough)

2. he won't be invincible in slams

3. he will even less than now care about non-slams ... except maybe Davis Cup.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
04-29-2010, 07:04 PM
Federer is so good that he tried to lose and still it took Gulbis 7 match points

wow federer is so amazing, even when he loses he really wins

ossie
04-29-2010, 07:42 PM
as a fedfan id like to see federer play for many years to come so i hope he tanks as many non-majors as possible (same story for nadal). can you imagine the mugs that would win slams if nadal and federer wouldnt be around?