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Roger And Rafa: A Contrast In Styles

Arkulari
04-26-2010, 02:28 PM
http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/News.asp%3FLNG%3DEN

ROGER AND RAFA: A CONTRAST IN STYLES

Federer breezes, Nadal broods in press conference
While the top seeds at Masters 1000 tournaments are given a bye in the first round, they still have work to do while their slightly less illustrious counterparts are out on court – they are called on to speak at pre-tournament press conferences. Gatherings such as these are seen by most players as a necessary evil, and most of them (with the odd exception such as the truculent David Nalbandian) are well versed in giving stock answers, deflecting pressure and feeding the media neutral lines.

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal have obviously had more practice at this art than most, having annexed virtually every major title between them over the past half a decade. On Sunday, they delivered an illustration of how different their styles are. On the court, Federer conserves his energy and can usually be relied on to deliver a master-class in smooth tennis – even when he doesn’t win. Nadal on the other hand is all-action, scrambling around and wearing opponents down. In the press room, they are equally contrasting.

The Swiss world No.1 one was first up, and wasted no time in heaping praise on his rival – a tried and tested tactic of his. “Rafa’s been on a tear these last five years, he’s never lost a shock result, only ever to top 10 or even top 5 players. He should’ve won in Qatar this year but when he had to drop out of the Australian Open due to injury, everyone wrote him off. I suppose he is the number one on clay,” said Federer of his rival who has dropped to No.3 in the ATP standings after injuries and a lean spell up until his recent win in Monte Carlo saw him lose precious ranking points.

Federer was as smooth as his trademark backhand throughout the 15-minute conference. He joked with the assembled journalists about playing doubles here with Yves Allegro and not his gold-medal winning partner Stanislas Wawrinka (“We just used each other for the Olympics, me and Stan!”), happily regaled them with tales of setting up the hotel room differently now that his twin daughters come on tour and was his usual charming and urbane self.

Half an hour later, it was Rafa’s turn. This time last year, he was (if results are to be believed) on unstoppable form. He had won in Monte Carlo, was about to cruise to victory in Rome and was being hailed as the man to take Federer’s crown (a case of “when”, not “if”). His English was improving with every tournament he won, and he was getting more at home in press conferences, cracking the odd smile and showing a good line in wry humour. Injury then blighted the rest of 2009, and though he returned to winning ways in the principality a week ago, the fact that he now can only go as far as his overworked knees will carry him seems to be weighing on his personality.

When told that Roger had declared him the favourite, the old (or rather younger, care-free) Rafa would have praised his opponent to the hilt with a self-effacing smile. 2010 Rafa gave the kind of broody stare he usually reserves for on-court opponents, exhaled loudly then launched into his best impression of a teenager being forced to apologise for crashing his parents’ car. “It only starts today, I only arrived yesterday. It’s a very difficult tournament and the best in the world are here so it’s impossible to say.”

“I felt I didn’t really play well in 2009. I had great results without playing at my best,” he continued, to the surprise of the roomful of journalist who had watched him sweep all before him up until Roland Garros 11 months ago. “For the past one-and-a-half years I’ve had more physical problems that I would have liked to have had. This makes it more important that I run well and practise well now that I have physical problems.”

Questions about approaching the French Open differently now that he is not the defending champion, and the relevance of changing seedings based on past performances at the tournament in question as opposed to basing them purely on current rankings, were met with almost monosyllabic indifference, and only when talk turned to the new centre court here at the Foro Italico did Rafa allow himself to relax a little.

The physical problems he regularly refers to have obviously affected him mentally to a similar extent. Who knows, perhaps if he retains his title here then storms back to reclaim “his” French Open crown, we will see the return of the carefree young Majorcan that so many grew to appreciate in 2008 and 2009. The last year or so has seen him realise that he can no longer take tennis for granted though – a harsh realisation for someone who lives and breathes the sport like Nadal...

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 02:46 PM
Makes me kinda sad to read this (about Nadal).

Persimmon
04-26-2010, 02:48 PM
Makes me kinda sad to read this (about Nadal).

If Rafa doesn't win the FO he is in deep doodoo:o

l_mac
04-26-2010, 02:52 PM
:haha:

What a piece of crap.

Arkulari
04-26-2010, 02:55 PM
overly dramatic stuff :lol:

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 03:16 PM
It is true tough, that Nadal seems unhappy.

l_mac
04-26-2010, 03:17 PM
It is true tough, that Nadal seems unhappy.

Yeah, so he does :lol:

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 03:18 PM
Yeah, so he does :lol:

:confused: whats your point?

andy neyer
04-26-2010, 03:26 PM
“For the past one-and-a-half years I’ve had more physical problems that I would have liked to have had. This makes it more important that I run well and practise well now that I have physical problems.”

This doesn't make much sense...

When told that Roger had declared him the favourite, the old (or rather younger, care-free) Rafa would have praised his opponent to the hilt with a self-effacing smile. 2010 Rafa gave the kind of broody stare he usually reserves for on-court opponents, exhaled loudly then launched into his best impression of a teenager being forced to apologise for crashing his parents’ car. “It only starts today, I only arrived yesterday. It’s a very difficult tournament and the best in the world are here so it’s impossible to say.”

That's just bullshit. Nadal has always been like that. The day in which he says "I'm the favourite to win this" will be the day in which I'll agree with the journos when they say he's changed.

Arkulari
04-26-2010, 03:27 PM
This doesn't make much sense...


I think that means he has to think when he runs and practises, because sometimes he's too reckless and does things the wrong way :shrug:

l_mac
04-26-2010, 03:27 PM
:confused: whats your point?

That I'm sure I follow Nadal a lot more closely than you do, and unhappy isn't how I'd describe him.

Just like heaven
04-26-2010, 03:30 PM
That I'm sure I follow Nadal a lot more closely than you do, and unhappy isn't how I'd describe him.

Your avatar is ugly. Very ugly.

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 03:31 PM
That I'm sure I follow Nadal a lot more closely than you do, and unhappy isn't how I'd describe him.

Yes you are :hug: so enlighten me then, how would you describe him?

duong
04-26-2010, 03:36 PM
Fed's interview where he notably talks about Nadal, Djokovic, Murray

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article7107845.ece

l_mac
04-26-2010, 03:37 PM
That's just bullshit. Nadal has always been like that. The day in which he says "I'm the favourite to win this" will be the day in which I'll agree with the journos when they say he's changed.

The article has very little basis in reality, and is instead mired in the author's obvious bias.

On the court, Federer conserves his energy and can usually be relied on to deliver a master-class in smooth tennis – even when he doesn’t win. :haha:

Federer was as smooth as his trademark backhand throughout the 15-minute conference. :spit:
and was his usual charming and urbane self.

He had won in Monte Carlo, was about to cruise to victory in Rome and was being hailed as the man to take Federer’s crown (a case of “when”, not “if”).

Last year at this time Rafa had been #1 for 9 months, held 3 Slams, the Olympic Gold Medal and a rankings point lead of around 5000 points. There was no when or if, he had the crowm.

His English was improving with every tournament he won, and he was getting more at home in press conferences, cracking the odd smile and showing a good line in wry humour.

Rafa has always been good natured in press conferences, even when his English was abysmal. The only times he gets irritated is when he is asked question after question about: his injuries or, like in this case, whether he is the favourite to win.


“I felt I didn’t really play well in 2009. I had great results without playing at my best,” he continued, to the surprise of the roomful of journalist who had watched him sweep all before him up until Roland Garros 11 months ago.

Really this was a surprise to the journalists? Even though he has said it about 3 zillion times now? Did the journalists attending the presser come from cross stitch magazines? :confused:

JolánGagó
04-26-2010, 03:39 PM
Utter shit.

Noleta
04-26-2010, 03:43 PM
The guy who wrote this is clearly a debutant,no?

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 03:44 PM
The article has very little basis in reality, and is instead mired in the author's obvious bias.







Last year at this time Rafa had been #1 for 9 months, held 3 Slams, the Olympic Gold Medal and a rankings point lead of around 5000 points. There was no when or if, he had the crowm.



Rafa has always been good natured in press conferences, even when his English was abysmal. The only times he gets irritated is when he is asked question after question about: his injuries or, like in this case, whether he is the favourite to win.




Really this was a surprise to the journalists? Even though he has said it about 3 zillion times now? Did the journalists attending the presser come from cross stitch magazines? :confused:

True in all accounts. But you are not seriously suggesting that the events of the last 12 Months have not taken a significant toll on Nadals mindset, are you?

Jomp1
04-26-2010, 03:47 PM
Why are all getting defensive. It's about the contrast Federer and Nadal and it's spot on(do you ever watch press conferences?). I have no idea why this was brought up now though..not like it's a big secret. It would happen to any player who struggles for a year, let alone a star player.

l_mac
04-26-2010, 03:52 PM
True in all accounts. But you are not seriously suggesting that the events of the last 12 Months have not taken a significant toll on Nadals mindset, are you?

He was really thrilled last weekend when he won Monte Carlo, and I'm sure part of his bad mood yesterday was because he would rather have been in Barca. If he was in a mood, he looked ZOMG adorable in the ATP video. He certainly looks happy and relaxed off court and I definitely think he's in a much better place mentally than he was in 2009. :shrug:

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 03:58 PM
He was really thrilled last weekend when he won Monte Carlo, and I'm sure part of his bad mood yesterday was because he would rather have been in Barca. If he was in a mood, he looked ZOMG adorable in the ATP video. He certainly looks happy and relaxed off court and I definitely think he's in a much better place mentally than he was in 2009. :shrug:

Thanks! believe it or not but I' glad you told me this, I really do not follow Nadal much (off court) but am sincerely interested nevertheless.
That being said, I see the slight probability that your assessement is biased as well. ;)

I still think he is not okay.

l_mac
04-26-2010, 04:06 PM
That being said, I see the slight probability that your assessement is biased as well. ;)

Ah, but, as a Raftard, my natural instinct is to look for signs that all might not be well so I can start to build up an excuse database for when Rafa loses :D

I'm sure Nadal is frustrated about his physical limitataions. I'm sure it irritates him to asnswer question after question about his injuries/ranking. The main issue I have with the article is that it supposes that Rafa's good natured pressers only started in 2008, or that he only started making an effort with his English after he won Wimbledon :retard: Rafa had his fair share of get-out-of bed on the wrong side pressers when he was #1 in the world, just as he has given light hearted answers during his "slump". It's lazy journalism.

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 04:20 PM
Ah, but, as a Raftard, my natural instinct is to look for signs that all might not be well so I can start to build up an excuse database for when Rafa loses :D

I'm sure Nadal is frustrated about his physical limitataions. I'm sure it irritates him to asnswer question after question about his injuries/ranking. The main issue I have with the article is that it supposes that Rafa's good natured pressers only started in 2008, or that he only started making an effort with his English after he won Wimbledon :retard: Rafa had his fair share of get-out-of bed on the wrong side pressers when he was #1 in the world, just as he has given light hearted answers during his "slump". It's lazy journalism.

Yeah, but you will hide this signs in your subconscious until Nadal loses. Because, until then, you want to have the most optimistic outlook possible for him and therefore you scan for signs that support this hope. So in reality, as a crazy nadaltard, you notice all sings telling something about your idols state and pull out the one that are most useful in the situation given. ;) But I'm sure you are a good source for accurate Nadal infos for the most part.

I'm sure he is pissed about the same questions about injury over and over again. obviously annoying. maybe you are right, and he is back on track and missed Barca due to smart scheduling and not due to pain. I hope so! we will see. I will surely piss my pants a bit when Fed has to face him in SF :)

Agree about the rest, Article is shitty written.

duong
04-26-2010, 04:39 PM
I don't know if anybody has read the link I have posted previous page,

about Federer's words (maybe more interesting than the journalist's impression about the player's face :lol: )

but Federer supports and praises Nadal a lot, which he often does, but well, as it is seldom noticed :lol:

He says Djokovic and Murray's evolutions are more worrying in his opinion.

Commander Data
04-26-2010, 05:22 PM
I don't know if anybody has read the link I have posted previous page,

about Federer's words (maybe more interesting than the journalist's impression about the player's face :lol: )

but Federer supports and praises Nadal a lot, which he often does, but well, as it is seldom noticed :lol:

He says Djokovic and Murray's evolutions are more worrying in his opinion.

Yeah I read it. thanks! was interesting.

Persimmon
04-26-2010, 05:27 PM
He says Djokovic and Murray's evolutions are more worrying in his opinion.

And he is right.

christallh24
04-26-2010, 05:31 PM
A contrast between two different people...? 23/24 and 28/29 yr. old men from completely different countries, backgrounds, family values, classes, and not only five years apart in age but are in completely different places in their personal and professional lives and careers. :eek:ZOMG!

Puhleese!:rolleyes: Why not 'Roger And Novak: A Conrast In Styles'? Aren't they the ones ranked one and two?