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Rome R1: Giraldo over Ferrero 6-0 6-3

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:13 PM
Unbelievable performance from the young Colombian. Too good.

Hewitt =Legend
04-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Giraldo will win RG.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:15 PM
That first set by Giraldo :spit::speakles::worship:

Adri89
04-26-2010, 01:15 PM
Ferrero is my favorite player and I've rarely seen him so outplayed by a player.
It was just outstanding from Giraldo. I knew he's some talent, but didn't know he was good at this point.
He played like God today. He would've destroy a lot of top players with this kind of form.

Ad Wim
04-26-2010, 01:15 PM
:spit:

Can we now please say that doing well in the SA-swing doesn't say shit and that Ferrero was hugely overrated here?

Voo de Mar
04-26-2010, 01:15 PM
:spit:

Action Jackson
04-26-2010, 01:16 PM
Good for the game.

henke007
04-26-2010, 01:16 PM
:worship::haha::haha:

Giraldo vs Verdasco in Semis on this half :shrug:

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:17 PM
I didn't think he was playing overwhelming in the second, though. It's like he got nervous. He was basically mixing bad and good shots and dropping the ball short a lot, especially on the serve. JCF simply played flat and wasn't consistent enough, not even mentioning how badly out hit he was.

I always knew Santi played like this, but wow did he put it together.

Deivid23
04-26-2010, 01:17 PM
Love it when JCF´s gets smoked like this :lol:

alter ego
04-26-2010, 01:17 PM
Giraldo for the title.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:18 PM
:spit:

Can we now please say that doing well in the SA-swing doesn't say shit and that Ferrero was hugely overrated here?
Na, because Giraldo just came from the SA-swing and look what he did today. :lol:

Besides, Ferrero will be back swinging in Madrid. :p

Jomp1
04-26-2010, 01:18 PM
The first set was absolutely unreal. 17-0 in winners. "Tennis won".

Deivid23
04-26-2010, 01:19 PM
He played like God today. He would've destroy a lot of top players with this kind of form.

Unless the top players serve like men or rip those awful 2nd serves to put him on the backfoot, or even try to mix up pace and height of the ball. If you don´t do any of those things and he´s in his groove, ofc he can smoke u like this

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:19 PM
:spit:

Can we now please say that doing well in the SA-swing doesn't say shit and that Ferrero was hugely overrated here?

Giraldo would have basically beaten pretty much everyone in that first set. JCF didn't play too well and was outhit completely and seemed flat, but Santi deserves all the credit here.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:21 PM
Seriously though, how "weak" can this era be when a player ranked #76 can come out onto a big stage and produce tennis like that.

jrm
04-26-2010, 01:22 PM
This was an amazing, one-sided match! Santiago was swinging winners from all over the court! For a smaller guy he sure has an amazing reach and whip! Ferrero's first winner came in 8th game!!!

The only thing he could work on is 2nd serve, it's pretty bad.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Unless the top players serve like men or rip those awful 2nd serves to put him on the backfoot, or even try to mix up pace and height of the ball. If you don´t do any of those things and he´s in his groove, ofc he can smoke u like this

Yeah, I mean, there are reasons why Santi hasn't been top 100 until recently. You can beat him actually pretty comfortably if he isn't firing and you actually attack back, or at the very least don't give him such easy opportunities to attack you. A lot of times JCF tried to be offensive, he made errors.

Ad Wim
04-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Unless the top players serve like men or rip those awful 2nd serves to put him on the backfoot, or even try to mix up pace and height of the ball. If you don´t do any of those things and he´s in his groove, ofc he can smoke u like this

Very well said. No excuse for JCF that Giraldo was playing that well.

n8
04-26-2010, 01:23 PM
Wow! 12 straight sets to Giraldo but Ferrero is in an entirely different league to his previous victories.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:23 PM
This was an amazing, one-sided match! Santiago was swinging winners from all over the court! For a smaller guy he sure has an amazing reach and whip! Ferrero's first winner came in 8th game!!!

The only thing he could work on is 2nd serve, it's pretty bad.
He's 6;2 - hardly small.

superslam77
04-26-2010, 01:24 PM
:eek:

this clay season sucks :bolt:

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Seriously though, how "weak" can this era be when a player ranked #76 can come out onto a big stage and produce tennis like that.

True, but the reason why he's ranked 76 is because he doesn't do it often.

B.z.A.
04-26-2010, 01:24 PM
I love this score. But it is definately suprising!

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:26 PM
Very well said. No excuse for JCF that Giraldo was playing that well.
Of course there's no excuse. In fact he had several chances to break in the 2nd set. Giraldo was very nervous serving for the match. JCF should have executed but failed when it mattered.

-Valhalla-
04-26-2010, 01:28 PM
A thorough beat-down.

Giraldo took the 1st set in 17 minutes.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Giraldo will lose his next match. Especially if it is Llodra as I think it will be.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Guess the tide is turning and JCF is entering his poor patch of the season. What a stupid freaking pissing shame. He had such a good draw here.

Last year he lost to Kunitsyn and Zverev in Barca and Rome. This year it's De Bakker and Giraldo. I guess the entire Latin Bloc in Europe brings it out of him. None of those four players would consider clay their best surface.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:33 PM
Giraldo will lose his next match. Especially if it is Llodra as I think it will be.
He's on an 8 match winning streak. No reason Llodra should stop him.

But who knows. Maybe he'll suddenly spray UEs all over the place. Fuck JCF's luck if that happens.

oematoema
04-26-2010, 01:39 PM
JCF is completely shattered by his epic loss to De Bakker. Time to retire.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:39 PM
He's on an 8 match winning streak. No reason Llodra should stop him.

But who knows. Maybe he'll suddenly spray UEs all over the place. Fuck JCF's luck if that happens.

Llodra will attack him. Every time JCF attacked him, he was dominating points and winning most, outside of some of those amazing shots Santi hit. JCF simply didn't take advantage of opportunities in the second set. Giraldo didn't play an amazing second set. JCF didn't play well enough, and wasn't aggressive enough, when he was aggressive he was making errors. A real attacking player is going to put the pressure on and Llodra will attack his serve too.

I mean, let's not get too ahead of ourselves with Santi. I've seen him enough to know what he is about. Ball machine players are what Santi wants to play. Llodra can break him down.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 01:42 PM
Guess the tide is turning and JCF is entering his poor patch of the season. What a stupid freaking pissing shame. He had such a good draw here.

Last year he lost to Kunitsyn and Zverev in Barca and Rome. This year it's De Bakker and Giraldo. I guess the entire Latin Bloc in Europe brings it out of him. None of those four players would consider clay their best surface.

3 of those 4 players are aggressive, attacking players (even Kunitsyn fits that label). Ball machine players like JCF who aren't playing great and aren't really hitting the ball well are cannon fodder for players like Zverev or Giraldo. JCF should probably look for a wild card next week to get his game back in order.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 01:48 PM
Llodra will attack him. Every time JCF attacked him, he was dominating points and winning most, outside of some of those amazing shots Santi hit. JCF simply didn't take advantage of opportunities in the second set. Giraldo didn't play an amazing second set. JCF didn't play well enough, and wasn't aggressive enough, when he was aggressive he was making errors. A real attacking player is going to put the pressure on and Llodra will attack his serve too.

I mean, let's not get too ahead of ourselves with Santi. I've seen him enough to know what he is about. Ball machine players are what Santi wants to play. Llodra can break him down.
True, it's a very different match-up, completely the opposite in fact.

I hope he does keep it up. Would be interesting to see him play another top 20 player this tournament.


3 of those 4 players are aggressive, attacking players (even Kunitsyn fits that label). Ball machine players like JCF who aren't playing great and aren't really hitting the ball well are cannon fodder for players like Zverev or Giraldo. JCF should probably look for a wild card next week to get his game back in order.
Indeed, and the fast clay of Rome certainly helps them. JCF started the match today like a man who thought he could take this win for granted. I have to be honest, a player who's been around as long as him really should know better. It's very disappointing.

Giraldo is young and possibly making his breakthrough here, at least I hope he is.

MacTheKnife
04-26-2010, 01:58 PM
All aboard the bandwagon..

tennishero
04-26-2010, 01:58 PM
Seriously though, how "weak" can this era be when a player ranked #76 can come out onto a big stage and produce tennis like that.

OR... this era is so strong that anyone inside the top 100 can stay competetive with the top guns.

james82
04-26-2010, 02:03 PM
OR... this era is so strong that anyone inside the top 100 can stay competetive with the top guns.

nope first guy was right,this era is real weak

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 02:03 PM
True, it's a very different match-up, completely the opposite in fact.

I hope he does keep it up. Would be interesting to see him play another top 20 player this tournament.



Indeed, and the fast clay of Rome certainly helps them. JCF started the match today like a man who thought he could take this win for granted. I have to be honest, a player who's been around as long as him really should know better. It's very disappointing.

Giraldo is young and possibly making his breakthrough here, at least I hope he is.

The surface definitely helped him dramatically, but even that isn't really a good excuse. And from the first game he was broken, you could definitely see JCF was shocked and taken aback, and gave no credit whatsoever to Giraldo. It is very disappointing, but top players generally look down at players like this, and this is a reminder you can't do that, especially a guy like JCF, who doesn't overwhelm most opponents. It was just not a good day mentally or tactically from Ferrero, and you have to question if this will affect his FO. He really could have turned this match around, and he simply did not have it in him.

I don't think Santi will ever make a breakthrough. He simply is too much of a ball basher, too inconsistent, and has a below average serve and defense. Going for broke leaves you without money after a while, it is impossible for it to always work. That's why he is ranked 76.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 02:05 PM
I hope he keeps it up, but I'm pretty sure he can't and wont. Heck, he didn't even keep up his first set performance in the second set.

duong
04-26-2010, 02:11 PM
Giraldo is very irregular : he had two very tight matches in qualies to Lapentti and especially Nieminen ;)

If he has a poor second serve and defense as it seems, Llodra really loves that ;) And Llodra's pace is completely different from Ferrero's.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 02:13 PM
OR... this era is so strong that anyone inside the top 100 can stay competetive with the top guns.

nope first guy was right,this era is real weak
I think you both misunderstood me.


The surface definitely helped him dramatically, but even that isn't really a good excuse. And from the first game he was broken, you could definitely see JCF was shocked and taken aback, and gave no credit whatsoever to Giraldo. It is very disappointing, but top players generally look down at players like this, and this is a reminder you can't do that, especially a guy like JCF, who doesn't overwhelm most opponents. It was just not a good day mentally or tactically from Ferrero, and you have to question if this will affect his FO. He really could have turned this match around, and he simply did not have it in him.

I don't think Santi will ever make a breakthrough. He simply is too much of a ball basher, too inconsistent, and has a below average serve and defense. Going for broke leaves you without money after a while, it is impossible for it to always work. That's why he is ranked 76.

I hope he keeps it up, but I'm pretty sure he can't and wont. Heck, he didn't even keep up his first set performance in the second set.
Even ball bashers can make it to the top. It's mostly a question of belief. But I agree, the 2nd set makes me skeptical. Just a bit more fight from JCF would have taken it the distance.

I'm not making any excuses, JCF doesn't have any. I'm just saying the faster clay is more suitable for Giraldo (and the other 3 players). Like you said, the first game when he hit all those return winners, JCF had the look of a man thinking it was a fluke and wouldn't keep it up. He just doesn't have the determination to fight through a low-ranked player having a hot day.

Fedexex
04-26-2010, 02:18 PM
Wth:o:retard:

tennishero
04-26-2010, 02:19 PM
nope first guy was right,this era is real weak

http://jpgmag.com/dev/o_rly.jpg

Juanes
04-26-2010, 02:23 PM
:sobbing:

Aaric
04-26-2010, 02:26 PM
WTF !!! :tape:

samanosuke
04-26-2010, 02:59 PM
I expected that Ferrero drop the form but this is too much

Deivid23
04-26-2010, 03:08 PM
Indeed, and the fast clay of Rome certainly helps them. JCF started the match today like a man who thought he could take this win for granted.

Humidity was around 75-80%, clay was quite damp and conditions were slow. JCF simply sucked and got outplayed

Arkulari
04-26-2010, 03:22 PM
what is it with Santi and spanish players? first Boredo at the AO and now Juanqui here :eek:

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 03:27 PM
what is it with Santi and spanish players? first Boredo at the AO and now Juanqui here :eek:

Both are perfect match ups for him, but Tommy was injured at Australia.

andy neyer
04-26-2010, 03:45 PM
Didn't Giraldo bageled Robredo with apparently zero UE in the first round match of the AO?

I'm starting to think that this kid might be on some performance enhaning drugs.. Either that or he just manages to produce brilliant performanes only sporadically.

Action Jackson
04-26-2010, 03:46 PM
Both are perfect match ups for him, but Tommy was injured at Australia.

Don't be naughty, he was not injured he got smoked.

vn01
04-26-2010, 03:50 PM
1st set-Giraldo was very good
2nd set-JCF was very bad.


But Giraldo will play against Llodra/Beck which gives him the chance to continue into the 3rd round,where his opponent should be Tsonga or De Bakker

Xristos
04-26-2010, 04:01 PM
Umm ok then.

Noleta
04-26-2010, 04:13 PM
:eek::speakles:

l_mac
04-26-2010, 04:15 PM
:lol:

He should have lost to LapenttiGOAT in Qualie R1.

JolánGagó
04-26-2010, 04:41 PM
:o

Smoke944
04-26-2010, 04:49 PM
Vamos Santi.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 04:52 PM
Even ball bashers can make it to the top. It's mostly a question of belief. But I agree, the 2nd set makes me skeptical. Just a bit more fight from JCF would have taken it the distance.

I'm not making any excuses, JCF doesn't have any. I'm just saying the faster clay is more suitable for Giraldo (and the other 3 players). Like you said, the first game when he hit all those return winners, JCF had the look of a man thinking it was a fluke and wouldn't keep it up. He just doesn't have the determination to fight through a low-ranked player having a hot day.Ball bashers can make it to the top, but to me, Santi doesn't have the serve to do so, and unlike some of these guys who smack the ball around, Giraldo doesn't seem to have ANY actual gameplan or tactics. Just smack the ball, and hope it goes in. Some ball bashers actually bring a little more to the table that Giraldo, also in the second set he didn't consistently bash, he got pushed back quite a bit.

His belief seems..............well, he knows who he is and how he needs to play, but he definitely got nervous at the end, and his overall level dropped considerably after the 6-0 2-0 lead. The clay is fast but conditions did seem a little heavier than usual, the ball sat up a lot, which helped Santi execute. But anyway, what it comes down to is, JCF somewhat allowed this to happen, and seemed pretty downtrodden by being blown off the court instead of fighting, raising his level, and doing what it took to win, and that is completely unacceptable for a player of his experience level.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 04:54 PM
Don't be naughty, he was not injured he got smoked.

He did get smoked and probably would have regardless, but I remember reading how Tommy had a problem with the thigh or hamstring going into the match. It doesn't matter at the end of the day, what happened happened, and Giraldo destroyed Robredo.

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 04:56 PM
:lol:

He should have lost to LapenttiGOAT in Qualie R1.

Exactly. I'm still sad about that result for Nico, he had that right about in the bag :sad:

philosophicalarf
04-26-2010, 05:19 PM
Prematch money clearly shows all was not OK for Ferrero. Not sure what though, missed the match.

octatennis
04-26-2010, 05:26 PM
at leats he won a match. serve and volley player is going to rip him a new one, just see his H2H with southafrican guy don't remenber his name but was not moodie or huss nor anderson. :cool:

try to fuck the next ass though.

Mateya
04-26-2010, 05:37 PM
:spit:

Ariel
04-26-2010, 05:56 PM
But anyway, what it comes down to is, JCF somewhat allowed this to happen, and seemed pretty downtrodden by being blown off the court instead of fighting, raising his level, and doing what it took to win, and that is completely unacceptable for a player of his experience level.

I agree......unfortunately. He's so damned mentally/emotionally inconsistent. But I'll continue to support him as frustrating as that can be.

SwiSha
04-26-2010, 06:19 PM
:lol:

well at least u have another SA clay swing in 2011 coming JCF

alfonsojose
04-26-2010, 07:34 PM
Santi :lol: :yeah:

gorgo1986
04-26-2010, 09:14 PM
Very impressive from Giraldo, he can definitely play when he is on but unfortunately he has not been able to find it consistently for more than two or three matches. I will say that Juan Carlos played brainless and very passive tennis but that does not take anything away from Giraldo's great win.

tennishero
04-26-2010, 09:59 PM
OR... this era is so strong that anyone inside the top 100 can stay competetive with the top guns.

some fedtard actually bad repped me for this comment :lol:

Forehander
04-26-2010, 10:11 PM
Ah well... better luck next time JFC :)

Corey Feldman
04-26-2010, 10:31 PM
Giraldo on wings since he seen i TT'd him over Lapentti in qualies

Filo V.
04-26-2010, 10:41 PM
Llodra beat Beck, and Llodra is going to beat Santi on Wednesday.

Jimnik
04-26-2010, 10:42 PM
Ball bashers can make it to the top, but to me, Santi doesn't have the serve to do so, and unlike some of these guys who smack the ball around, Giraldo doesn't seem to have ANY actual gameplan or tactics. Just smack the ball, and hope it goes in. Some ball bashers actually bring a little more to the table that Giraldo, also in the second set he didn't consistently bash, he got pushed back quite a bit.

His belief seems..............well, he knows who he is and how he needs to play, but he definitely got nervous at the end, and his overall level dropped considerably after the 6-0 2-0 lead. The clay is fast but conditions did seem a little heavier than usual, the ball sat up a lot, which helped Santi execute. But anyway, what it comes down to is, JCF somewhat allowed this to happen, and seemed pretty downtrodden by being blown off the court instead of fighting, raising his level, and doing what it took to win, and that is completely unacceptable for a player of his experience level.
Fully agree.


I agree......unfortunately. He's so damned mentally/emotionally inconsistent. But I'll continue to support him as frustrating as that can be.
Me too. :o


Prematch money clearly shows all was not OK for Ferrero. Not sure what though, missed the match.
Markets had JCF as very heavy favourite. Nothing suspicious. :confused:

MIMIC
04-26-2010, 11:37 PM
Watching this match right now :eek: :worship:

Unbelievable form. Ferrero was completely blitzed by this guy.

10 Winners off of the RETURN!! :lol: Wow.

TMJordan
04-27-2010, 05:21 AM
Ladies and gentlemen.....Juan Carlos Ferrero

scarecrows
04-27-2010, 12:26 PM
haha

good stuff Santi

n8
04-27-2010, 12:38 PM
EMxeQ_BltEU

Wow!