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Players you love to hate!

tangerine_dream
04-20-2010, 05:37 PM
Or, hate to love. Name them. :devil:

I love watching your misery. Hurry and get well so you can lose again m'dear. :angel:

http://i44.tinypic.com/anhumh.jpg

Certinfy
04-20-2010, 05:41 PM
Love to hate:
http://aditalks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rafa_nadal_1413742c.jpg

alter ego
04-20-2010, 05:46 PM
I must say I agree with both you 2.

andy neyer
04-20-2010, 05:46 PM
I don't hate any player but I've come to hate the fans of some players and that compells me to make jokes about those players just to piss off their fans.

The cicle of this board, eh?

Persimmon
04-20-2010, 06:13 PM
Love to hate:
http://aditalks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rafa_nadal_1413742c.jpg

Damn, I want that polo, it's so girly:D

Howard
04-20-2010, 06:23 PM
I pretty much hate all the top players because they have way more talent, money, popularity and hot women than me.

Certinfy
04-20-2010, 06:23 PM
I pretty much hate all the top players because they have way more talent, money, popularity and hot women than me.

:haha: That is siggy material!

Kitty de Sade
04-20-2010, 06:26 PM
Poor Muzza never gets any love from Tangy. :(

Hmm. Clement and Lapentti both need some lessons. Haas made a fool out of himself when I met him, as did Tursunov. None of them register enough for me to love to hate them.

Closest would be Spadea, and more so Bobby Reynolds. I'm not a mean girl unless provoked, but for that guy I'd make an exception.

tangerine_dream
04-20-2010, 06:28 PM
Poor Muzza never gets any love from Tangy. :(
That's not really true. I was moved by his tears when he broke down at AO. Then I got over it.

Certinfy
04-20-2010, 06:31 PM
That's not really true. I was moved by his tears when he broke down at AO. Then I got over it.
How long did it take for u to get over it then? 5 minutes?

Ertl93
04-20-2010, 06:32 PM
agree with certinfy...

Pirata.
04-20-2010, 06:55 PM
I don't hate any player but I've come to hate the fans of some players and that compells me to make jokes about those players just to piss off their fans.

:devil:

marcRD
04-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Murray is my only true love (to hate).

igralec33
04-20-2010, 07:18 PM
My winner is for sure Federer. :yeah: Even though word "hate" is a little bit to much - we could say dislike. ;)

solowyn
04-20-2010, 07:19 PM
The loveable Scot.

Lopez
04-20-2010, 08:43 PM
Poor Muzza never gets any love from Tangy. :(

Hmm. Clement and Lapentti both need some lessons. Haas made a fool out of himself when I met him, as did Tursunov. None of them register enough for me to love to hate them.

Closest would be Spadea, and more so Bobby Reynolds. I'm not a mean girl unless provoked, but for that guy I'd make an exception.

Please elaborate :D

Jills
04-20-2010, 08:45 PM
Federer, hands down. Not even a discussion. He bores me to tears, and I don't *get* his personality. One minute he's giggling like a girl, the next he's acting like a grumpy prick.

I don't care how many records he breaks in the meantime, as long as I know I won't have to look at him forever. Almost 29 now, yay :)

cocrcici
04-20-2010, 08:46 PM
Federer

Lleyton_
04-20-2010, 08:49 PM
Federer, hands down. Not even a discussion. He bores me to tears, and I don't *get* his personality. One minute he's giggling like a girl, the next he's acting like a grumpy prick.

I don't care how many records he breaks in the meantime, as long as I know I won't have to look at him forever. Almost 29 now, yay :)

:eek: Seek help.

Certinfy
04-20-2010, 08:54 PM
Nadal winning the poll! Never really unexpected though.

Not many people disliking Roddick, Verdasco and Del Potro as well which was probably unexpected.

Soderling not disliked that much as well, was definitely not expecting that!

Kitty de Sade
04-20-2010, 09:05 PM
Please elaborate :D

In general? We'll be here all day if I did that. :rolls:

Okay, as you wish- (censored version)

Haas is a lech, plain and simple. That won't mean anything to you if you're a guy, I suppose, but that kind of unwarranted conduct makes me queasy. Worse, if you are in a committed relationship.

Tursunov, I really can't. I'd be throwing a bff under the bus by doing so. Suffice it to say he is a total wackadoo, who needs basic etiquette lessons. He is inappropriately girl-friendly to some, and schoolyard bully brutal to others. Want to get on my bad side? That's how to succeed.

Corey Feldman
04-20-2010, 09:07 PM
Nole, Roddick

i hope partygirl still loves me

FEDERERBEAUTY
04-20-2010, 09:38 PM
I didn't think it was posible for there to be another British player who could make me want to puke all over Wimbledone centre court after 'Tiger' Tim.
BUT then along came Andrew Murray......
Face of a constipated rodent
Body of a cheesestring (gone very bad)
'Personality' of a hedghog with haemorrhoids
Just ghastly.

(funnily have warmed to Tiger since his retirement)

Hugh Jaas
04-20-2010, 10:18 PM
Or, hate to love. Name them. :devil:

I love watching your misery. Hurry and get well so you can lose again m'dear. :angel:

http://i44.tinypic.com/anhumh.jpg





Marcos mugdatis. 2006-great, 2007-present FAT unfit mug

Ivo karloshit. without his serve he would be ranked around 1200

boredo. Suicide inducing.

Andy RODdick.Umpire abusing Serve only clown. This toolbag behaves like like a prepubescent child.

Fernado gonzalez. Cheated James Blake out of a Olympic medal, terrible court attitude, uses earthquake as an excuse to skip tournaments.

Wevan Lubed up Bitch reached a clay semi final in Roland Garos in 2006. Little else of note only one quarter and/or round of 16. Paint drying is better to watch. fluke masters win,

Super Mario Wankchic reached Wimbledon 2004 semi final where Rod Dick destroyed him, couldn't even beat 12 year old Rafa in the first round of Wimbledon 2003 or 2nd round of US open. uses the mono excuse for his pathetic form.

Burnando Fercraspco reached 09 Aus open final where Nadal blew him off the court. Did very little else. Bent over to nadal again at 2010 MC masters.

Rainer Shitler reached a GS FINAL and a semi. always relied on upsets and flukey draws.

ZaZoo)
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
When Murray starts with cmons you gotta 'love' him..

Lopez
04-20-2010, 11:20 PM
In general? We'll be here all day if I did that. :rolls:

Okay, as you wish- (censored version)

Haas is a lech, plain and simple. That won't mean anything to you if you're a guy, I suppose, but that kind of unwarranted conduct makes me queasy. Worse, if you are in a committed relationship.

Well, personally I (a guy) think that if a guy is a sleazy douche and comes on to girls when he's in a relationship, he's an idiot. Everyone should think like that, this shouldn't be a boy/girl divider :p

Tursunov, I really can't. I'd be throwing a bff under the bus by doing so. Suffice it to say he is a total wackadoo, who needs basic etiquette lessons. He is inappropriately girl-friendly to some, and schoolyard bully brutal to others. Want to get on my bad side? That's how to succeed.

Same with jerks. He's spent a lot of time in the US, maybe he's gotten the jock-culture from high school or college.

Topspin Forehand
04-20-2010, 11:47 PM
Definitely Frauderer. Can't stand his arrogance and his crying after a loss. Pathetic.

Roger FF
04-21-2010, 05:51 AM
Rafinito la comedia - 10 months per year
Rafinito la tragedia - 2 months per year

:D

marquez
04-21-2010, 06:58 AM
where is boredo? :o:o:o

coonster14
04-21-2010, 08:11 AM
just not a fan of andy murray (someone tell me why is that guy so boring and irritating :lol: ???)

DartMarcus
04-21-2010, 08:29 AM
Don't like Federer for stealing everything from my faves.
Dislike Nadal for a boring game.
Dislike Djokovic for arrogance.
Don't really care about Del Potro and Verdasco.
Like Roddick for his personality, although find his game boring 90% of time.
Like Soderling and Murray.
Out of top 10 don't like Youzhny, Becker, Mathieu and some other guys.

bokehlicious
04-21-2010, 08:34 AM
Nadal/Djokovic/Murray

Machiavelli
04-21-2010, 08:39 AM
Robredo, Benneteau, Monfils, why are they missing?

Just like heaven
04-21-2010, 09:58 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1785/rogerfederer1.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2zzp4w9.jpg

Nole fan
04-21-2010, 10:59 AM
When Murray starts with cmons you gotta 'love' him..

+1

I'm thinking people haven't understood the meaning of this thread. The question is not the player you hate, but the player you love to hate. That implies that this is a player you admire/fear/presents a thread to your favorite so you hate him, but you can't live without him either. So you have ambigous feelings of love-hate towards him. I'm sure that's what Tangerine_Dream meant. My vote goes for Federer, no doubt.

bokehlicious
04-21-2010, 11:02 AM
I doubt Tangy ever "loved" Muzza :tape: :o

bokehlicious
04-21-2010, 11:05 AM
Fed leading that one :cool: who said Rafa was the most hated player? :lol:

marcRD
04-21-2010, 11:26 AM
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1785/rogerfederer1.jpg


:lol:

This pic is too funny, like megagay.

samanosuke
04-21-2010, 11:28 AM
Nadal/Djokovic/Murray

+1

ExcaliburII
04-21-2010, 11:28 AM
From that list

Murray
Federer

and sometimes Roddick

marcRD
04-21-2010, 11:29 AM
Fed leading that one :cool: who said Rafa was the most hated player? :lol:

Fed steals more from everyone than Nadal, but I think it is impossible to honestly hate Nadal or Federer more than Murray in personality and gamestyle, it must be because of how they steal glory from the rest of the atptour.

nateyang
04-21-2010, 12:01 PM
:lol:

This pic is too funny, like megagay.

Now this is Swiss Miss!

Forehander
04-21-2010, 12:26 PM
I picked other: Gille Simon.

Nole fan
04-21-2010, 02:35 PM
Murray leading all the polls lately and not for a good reason. Voted least attractive player and most hated. :lol: :hug:

pica_pica
04-21-2010, 02:48 PM
Andy Murray

I genuinely feel sorry for him when he has a shock early exit, or loses to Federer in a slam final.
BUT, I ALWAYS root against him during the match :devil:

orangehat
04-21-2010, 02:49 PM
Murray, Simon.

vn01
04-21-2010, 04:00 PM
My winner is for sure Federer. :yeah: Even though word "hate" is a little bit to much - we could say dislike. ;)

Agree.I dislike Federer

Gunslinger
04-21-2010, 04:05 PM
Djoko and Murray hate them so much :mad::devil:

Corey Feldman
04-21-2010, 05:39 PM
Murray leading all the polls lately and not for a good reason. Voted least attractive player and most hated. :lol: :hug:dont be cruel

i thought you and gorgo86 didnt understand all this hatred to tennis players (Nadal)

Aaric
04-21-2010, 05:56 PM
Murray, but Iīd just prefer he wasnt a tennis player :o:o:o

centralviva
04-21-2010, 06:13 PM
I can't stand Murray he has such a boring game and personality I also find Roger to be arrogant

GasquetFan
04-21-2010, 06:17 PM
Of the players in the poll, I can't stand Roddick, Murray and Federer.

Also don't like Hewitt.

Corey Feldman
04-21-2010, 06:17 PM
i will have to leave MTF if this Murray/Fed hate keeps getting stronger

superslam77
04-21-2010, 06:18 PM
Love to hate:
http://aditalks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rafa_nadal_1413742c.jpg

Jase :wavey:

1-douche bag run when match starts.
2-time wasting without warnings.
3-faking injuries then running like a rabbit.
4-ultra defensive tennis.
5-can't hit flat balls.
6-ass diggin to distract rivals.
7-vamosing like crazy when rival makes a mistake.
8-spitting on court.
9-smelling own armpits.
10-suspicious water bottles have to be placed in a certain way.
11-bad taste clothes to get the attention of the other player.
12-headband and wristband of the same color of the ball to distract.
13-boring personality.
14-puppet of toni.
15-never gives credit to opponent, always excuses.
16-has mean fangirls that spend all day trying to get people banned from MTF.
17-"fans" that aren't truly fans but haters of fed.
18-has followers for all the wrong reasons.
19-bounces the ball almost as many times as djokovic.
20-always against tests and regulations.
21-grunts like a dbag

Corey Feldman
04-21-2010, 06:23 PM
finally! another nadal hater!

Nole fan
04-21-2010, 06:24 PM
dont be cruel

i thought you and gorgo86 didnt understand all this hatred to tennis players (Nadal)

And I don't. I'm not agreeing at all, I'm just saying how it is which is surprising, don't understand where all this hatred towards Murray comes from. :shrug:
Don't you read my posts Corey? When have I been mean towards Murray? Never! He's even in my sig. :angel:

Nole fan
04-21-2010, 06:26 PM
finally! another nadal hater!

Oh you changed your sig, you're such a sensible person. Thanks! :kiss:

superslam77
04-21-2010, 06:27 PM
finally! another nadal hater!

cheers :wavey:

don't know if it's hating though...but the guy breaks too many rules and i dislike that a lot :o

Kitty de Sade
04-21-2010, 06:58 PM
Well, personally I (a guy) think that if a guy is a sleazy douche and comes on to girls when he's in a relationship, he's an idiot. Everyone should think like that, this shouldn't be a boy/girl divider :p

You're totally right, and I apologize for making a blanket generalization based on sex. That's no good on my part. You have to excuse me though, I meet a lot of sleazy douches in my line of work. :p

Same with jerks. He's spent a lot of time in the US, maybe he's gotten the jock-culture from high school or college.

Blame the US frat-boy mentality? Sounds good to me.

I don't know what it is, but he's an inexplicably big hit with the older women. They think his washboard abs and **** ******* lips are :drool: worthy, so they let him get away with murder.

cobalt60
04-21-2010, 07:18 PM
Haas is a lech, plain and simple. That won't mean anything to you if you're a guy, I suppose, but that kind of unwarranted conduct makes me queasy. Worse, if you are in a committed relationship.

Tursunov, I really can't. I'd be throwing a bff under the bus by doing so. Suffice it to say he is a total wackadoo, who needs basic etiquette lessons. He is inappropriately girl-friendly to some, and schoolyard bully brutal to others. Want to get on my bad side? That's how to succeed.

Haas has lots of company as I am sure you know;)

Could not agree more about Terse man. Nutcase of the highest order. Has nothing to do with the jock-frat boy mentality at all; he has not been one;)

bokehlicious
04-21-2010, 07:33 PM
Jase :wavey:

1-douche bag run when match starts.
2-time wasting without warnings.
3-faking injuries then running like a rabbit.
4-ultra defensive tennis.
5-can't hit flat balls.
6-ass diggin to distract rivals.
7-vamosing like crazy when rival makes a mistake.
8-spitting on court.
9-smelling own armpits.
10-suspicious water bottles have to be placed in a certain way.
11-bad taste clothes to get the attention of the other player.
12-headband and wristband of the same color of the ball to distract.
13-boring personality.
14-puppet of toni.
15-never gives credit to opponent, always excuses.
16-has mean fangirls that spend all day trying to get people banned from MTF.
17-"fans" that aren't truly fans but haters of fed.
18-has followers for all the wrong reasons.
19-bounces the ball almost as many times as djokovic.
20-always against tests and regulations.
21-grunts like a dbag

:worship: One of the most accurate post I've ever read on these boards :worship: :D

Just like heaven
04-21-2010, 07:43 PM
Jase :wavey:

1-douche bag run when match starts.
2-time wasting without warnings.
3-faking injuries then running like a rabbit.
4-ultra defensive tennis.
5-can't hit flat balls.
6-ass diggin to distract rivals.
7-vamosing like crazy when rival makes a mistake.
8-spitting on court.
9-smelling own armpits.
10-suspicious water bottles have to be placed in a certain way.
11-bad taste clothes to get the attention of the other player.
12-headband and wristband of the same color of the ball to distract.
13-boring personality.
14-puppet of toni.
15-never gives credit to opponent, always excuses.
16-has mean fangirls that spend all day trying to get people banned from MTF.
17-"fans" that aren't truly fans but haters of fed.
18-has followers for all the wrong reasons.
19-bounces the ball almost as many times as djokovic.
20-always against tests and regulations.
21-grunts like a dbag

One of the most retarded posts I've ever read on these boards.


Rafael Nadal is great in every single way.
:worship::worship::worship::worship:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1476/imaimagosports135683440.jpg
:worship::worship:

Nole fan
04-21-2010, 07:45 PM
The most popular are the most hated. :lol:

bokehlicious
04-21-2010, 07:45 PM
One of the most retarded posts I've ever read on these boards.

:lol: for sure you didn't get to read many since you just joined the boards :hug:

Kitty de Sade
04-21-2010, 07:50 PM
Haas has lots of company as I am sure you know;)

Anyone you'd care to name and shame? I will if you will. :devil:

Could not agree more about Terse man. Nutcase of the highest order. Has nothing to do with the jock-frat boy mentality at all; he has not been one;)

He actually lives within striking distance of my condo, believe it or not. :rolls:

Nutcase, you bet. Before his old site was shut down, he had some very unkind things to say about me. Something about me and a meeting with an amorous donkey in Tijuana. Such an ill-tempered little crab apple, that one.

Did I say it in the rep? Good to see you Doc. :hug:

andy neyer
04-21-2010, 08:00 PM
I used to hate Andy Murray but ever since the AO I've come to understand him more and more. Now I am slightly neutral towards him, especially considering that most people here don't like him.

The kid is considered bad looking by many and his personality is not very charismatic to say the least. In addittion to that, his pushing game and on-court 'come-ons' don't help him to gain fans around here and his (joke) comments about the English team in the past World Cup are still present in the minds of many English who hate him to no end.

Thus, all in all it could be said to say that amongst the top ten he's the one with the most boring personality, the ugliest game and the less friendly-to-the eyes face. Not a very marketable top player, isn't he?

However, on the plus side he strikes me as an honest chap who's not afraid to speak out his mind and be just the way he is even if that's gonna piss people off -and I respect that.

elessar
04-21-2010, 08:06 PM
Thus, all in all it could be said to say that amongst the top ten he's the one with the most boring personality and unpolitically correct personality (well, maybe it could be argued that Davydenko is even less PC than Murray but nobody outside MTF cares much for Nikolay anyway), the ugliest game and the less friendly-to-the eyes face. Not a very marketable top player, isn't he?

And even with all that, Adidas still decided to drop Djokovic for him :worship:

Nole fan
04-21-2010, 08:18 PM
I used to hate Andy Murray but ever since the AO I've come to understand him more and more. Now I am slightly neutral towards him, especially considering that most people here don't like him.

The kid is considered bad looking by many and his personality is not very charismatic to say the least. In addittion to that, his pushing game and on-court 'come-ons' don't help him to gain fans around here and his (joke) comments about the English team in the past World Cup are still present in the minds of many English who hate him to no end.

Thus, all in all it could be said to say that amongst the top ten he's the one with the most boring personality, the ugliest game and the less friendly-to-the eyes face. Not a very marketable top player, isn't he?

However, on the plus side he strikes me as an honest chap who's not afraid to speak out his mind and be just the way he is even if that's gonna piss people off -and I respect that.

Many of us don't agree at all. Andy's talented in many ways but people are blind to see it. I've always preferred these 'imperfect' characters to the rather perfect and 'boring' ones ala Federer or Sampras. :shrug:

elessar
04-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Many of us don't agree at all. Andy's talented in many ways but people are blind to see it. I've always preferred these 'imperfect' characters to the rather perfect and 'boring' ones ala Federer or Sampras. :shrug:
You don't like Sampras :eek: but he used to be nr1 :worship:

Also I thought you said Roger wasn't perfect but rather rude, too in love with himself and with lots of unglamourous traits :confused:.

cobalt60
04-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Anyone you'd care to name and shame? I will if you will. :devil:



He actually lives within striking distance of my condo, believe it or not. :rolls:

Nutcase, you bet. Before his old site was shut down, he had some very unkind things to say about me. Something about me and a meeting with an amorous donkey in Tijuana. Such an ill-tempered little crab apple, that one.

Did I say it in the rep? Good to see you Doc. :hug:

I am a lady remember? :devil: Wait! Are you living in Calif finally?????? No more winters in Chicago!! :o

ęIvanĽ
04-21-2010, 10:04 PM
arrogant swiss prick 'n scotish ugliness

ęIvanĽ
04-21-2010, 10:05 PM
And even with all that, Adidas still decided to drop Djokovic for him :worship:

problems with dementia.nole dropped them:rolleyes:
you knew that already,how pathetic.

ęIvanĽ
04-21-2010, 10:07 PM
Jase :wavey:

1-douche bag run when match starts.
2-time wasting without warnings.
3-faking injuries then running like a rabbit.
4-ultra defensive tennis.
5-can't hit flat balls.
6-ass diggin to distract rivals.
7-vamosing like crazy when rival makes a mistake.
8-spitting on court.
9-smelling own armpits.
10-suspicious water bottles have to be placed in a certain way.
11-bad taste clothes to get the attention of the other player.
12-headband and wristband of the same color of the ball to distract.
13-boring personality.
14-puppet of toni.
15-never gives credit to opponent, always excuses.
16-has mean fangirls that spend all day trying to get people banned from MTF.
17-"fans" that aren't truly fans but haters of fed.
18-has followers for all the wrong reasons.
19-bounces the ball almost as many times as djokovic.
20-always against tests and regulations.
21-grunts like a dbag

the acc winner 2010.unreal :retard:

elessar
04-21-2010, 10:17 PM
problems with dementia.nole dropped them:rolleyes:
you knew that already
Did I :awww:?
how pathetic.
I'm this close to unfriending you on FB :tears:

TennisLurker
04-21-2010, 10:19 PM
I hate Boredo, Gilles and Haas Been.

superslam77
04-22-2010, 02:17 AM
:worship: One of the most accurate post I've ever read on these boards :worship: :D
http://www.singingfool.com/photos/385/016201_11.jpg

One of the most retarded posts I've ever read on these boards.


Rafael Nadal is great in every single way.
:worship::worship::worship::worship:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1476/imaimagosports135683440.jpg
:worship::worship:

Rafatardship at its finest you fangirl. you aren't a nadalasian but a tard.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5912/greatmomentsroast.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/greatmomentsroast.jpg/)

the acc winner 2010.unreal :retard:

:woohoo:

andy neyer
04-22-2010, 03:11 AM
Many of us don't agree at all. Andy's talented in many ways but people are blind to see it. I've always preferred these 'imperfect' characters to the rather perfect and 'boring' ones ala Federer or Sampras. :shrug:

I can see that Murray has a lot of talent but he rarely shows it because he prefers to play defensively most of the time. I wished he could mix up his game a little bit and attack more. Id he does that, he could even get to number 1, imo.

As for Fed, he's certainly not perfect but he's way too PC to the media in general. However, I guess that when he thinks he's not on camera he can be more authentic (like that little chat he had with the umpire in the 09 USO) which is kind of lame. I'd prefer he was more like McEnroe but that's not gonna happen with today's top players.

Just like heaven
04-22-2010, 08:44 AM
Rafatardship at its finest you fangirl. you aren't a nadalasian but a tard.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2lcs0wp.jpg

Mimi
04-22-2010, 08:55 AM
:bigclap::bigclap: great photos, Just-like-heaven, you are not a tard but a genius :bigclap:

the 3 persons below rafa is no match with Rafa in terms of achievements :lol:

duong
04-22-2010, 10:05 AM
I can't answer since I can't love to hate (I can love and hate, but it's very different, only happened with some women in the past :lol: ),

as hating is a misery for the one who feels it.

I hate/fear Nadal, and it's my misery :sad:

By the way I totally understand Superslam77's post : that's exactly what I feel about Nadal :

some say it's "retarded" as it's totally irrational, indeed,

and they don't understand these feelings :shrug:

But I've also read many others having irrational feelings about Federer, kinds of "allergies", like about his cryings for instance,
which I couldn't understand at all either :shrug:

These feelings are irrational yet they're real :shrug:

duong
04-22-2010, 10:14 AM
+1

I'm thinking people haven't understood the meaning of this thread. The question is not the player you hate, but the player you love to hate. That implies that this is a player you admire/fear/presents a thread to your favorite so you hate him, but you can't live without him either. So you have ambigous feelings of love-hate towards him. I'm sure that's what Tangerine_Dream meant. My vote goes for Federer, no doubt.

I admire :worship: /fear Nadal, but I don't have ambiguous feelings of love-hate to him.

I can't love something I fear :shrug: and I would live better without him :o

Nole fan
04-22-2010, 11:23 AM
I admire :worship: /fear Nadal, but I don't have ambiguous feelings of love-hate to him.

I can't love something I fear :shrug: and I would live better without him :o

Fanatism at its worst. You may not like Nadal because he's a threat to your favorite (I suspect the mighty Roger) but I'm sure tennis would not be better without him.

Art&Soul
04-22-2010, 11:45 AM
Nadull for his boring game, dull character and his annoying wasting time between points

oranges
04-22-2010, 12:02 PM
The only one that enticed love/hate feelings was Mac. Such a nice game to watch, but I always wanted to slap him silly. Those tantrums drove me crazy, get a grip you're not 5 :p

Nowadays, I mainly roll my eyes when Murray makes that face like an old granny having a back pain when things are not going his way or when Djokovic casts one of those angry glances at the crowd for cheering the other guy.

samanosuke
04-22-2010, 03:08 PM
Only 34 votes for Djokovic ?? Even forum server hates Djokovic so much that he doesn't want to count Novak's votes

Nole fan
04-22-2010, 03:12 PM
The only one that enticed love/hate feelings was Mac. Such a nice game to watch, but I always wanted to slap him silly. Those tantrums drove me crazy, get a grip you're not 5 :p

Nowadays, I mainly roll my eyes when Murray makes that face like an old granny having a back pain when things are not going his way or when Djokovic casts one of those angry glances at the crowd for cheering the other guy.

Without them you take the spice out of tennis! Those are the reasons why I love them.

oranges
04-22-2010, 03:41 PM
Without them you take the spice out of tennis! Those are the reasons why I love them.

Do I need a permission not to like that "spice"? Some cuisines include eating all sorts of bugs too, but I'll pass, thanks

Filo V.
04-22-2010, 05:09 PM
I don't love to hate anyone, because I think that is childish and immature behavior. And hating tennis players you don't know and calling them fake and boring when they are the ones who are giving you as fans entertainment is really lame and low class. There are things about players that may get annoying, but it's not important or relevant enough for me to care when I am watching them play on the court. I think a lot of the hate comes from bitterness and insecurity from the sounds of some of you.

tangerine_dream
04-22-2010, 06:05 PM
:hearts:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6455/andymis.gif (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/andymis.gif/)

duong
04-22-2010, 09:30 PM
Fanatism at its worst. You may not like Nadal because he's a threat to your favorite (I suspect the mighty Roger) but I'm sure tennis would not be better without him.

no no the fact that he beat Federer very often of course plays a role,

but I've already explained what gives me allergy about his attitude on court : an image of violence and hyperactivity (his twitches including with his eyes).
It's a physical impression, makes me think of other things, bad experiences.

But I've also explained that I admire his values and I see him outside of court as maybe the best brought-up player and very nice. And his values appeal to what I've lived in my native region.

And I never said that tennis would be better without him.

I've said that I would be better without him.

You know, feelings are not rational : very often on this forum I see people who try to rationalize their feelings, and explain and explain ... but basically the reason of what they say in an irrational feeling.

I'm honest about my irrational feelings.

I know it's a misery, it's shameful, it's not rational. Nadal is surely a 100% better person than me :worship.

Yet that's a reality ... it's the reality of what I feel :shrug:

For instance I've always feared Murray for beating Federer (maybe less recently but yet I've felt it for long) ... but I've never been allergic to him, nothing physical like this image of violence and hyperactivity which I'm allergic to in Nadal's behaviour on court.

Nole fan
04-22-2010, 09:43 PM
I don't love to hate anyone, because I think that is childish and immature behavior. And hating tennis players you don't know and calling them fake and boring when they are the ones who are giving you as fans entertainment is really lame and low class. There are things about players that may get annoying, but it's not important or relevant enough for me to care when I am watching them play on the court. I think a lot of the hate comes from bitterness and insecurity from the sounds of some of you.

+1
At least one sensible post here. I think people use the term 'hate' vaguely. If anyone really hates a player then he/she has a serious problem. :cuckoo:

lalaland
04-22-2010, 10:13 PM
I don't love to hate anyone, because I think that is childish and immature behavior. And hating tennis players you don't know and calling them fake and boring when they are the ones who are giving you as fans entertainment is really lame and low class. There are things about players that may get annoying, but it's not important or relevant enough for me to care when I am watching them play on the court. I think a lot of the hate comes from bitterness and insecurity from the sounds of some of you.

I completely agree. On the other hand, I believe some serious haters here truly do hate. I think hate and love consume as much energy since they are the same kind of emotion albeit at different end of the spectrum. When you love a player, you put your full attention to him, note all his activities, wish him well when he plays, get elated by his wins and suffer all his losses. Those haters on here did the exact same thing, putting their attention to the player they hate, watch all his matches even if they claim to hate that players so much, then they suffer when the player wins and get elated when the player loss. How else can you explain why they are always there to bash when those player loses and there to ridicule a match when the one they hate wins? They never miss a chance to insult a player they hate I don't know how those haters do that, but their passion to hate is no less than our passion to love. I don't want to say that haters are twisted, but what else can you explain why they behave that way? Emotion are irrational by nature, it's a feeling, not a thinking process. So hating someone without actually knowing him is entirely possible. As for me, I don't hate cos it costs too much energy. It's stressful to love but at least it's worth it. It's stressful to hate and totally not worth it.

andy neyer
04-22-2010, 10:19 PM
Rafael Nadal makes me think of the Spanish Inquisition barring the butt picking.

duong
04-22-2010, 10:34 PM
Emotion are irrational by nature, it's a feeling, not a thinking process.

yes, exactly

So hating someone without actually knowing him is entirely possible.

I bounce on that "without actually knowing him" :

the key point here is that tennis for many of us is a show, like when we watch concerts or something ... it's an activity which we watch because it's pleasant.

And then ... there's the moment when something uncomfortable appears in that show, something which gives you bad emotions, makes you think of bad experiences or things you don't like.

Unpleasant, uncomfortable.

That's why, I think, many people here say that they hate a player.

See all of the reactions about Federer's tears :eek: : sorry, these reactions aren't rational either imo. Something about that must have made these people think of bad experiences they've lived.

After that, the word "hate", well, doesn't mean much imo : you hate what you see, you don't hate a person when you don't know him.

As I said, I admire and feel very well about Nadal's behaviour and words out of court.

The problem is ... on court, what I see there, that's all.

By the way, when you speak about "spending a lot of energy to hate", actually I try not to spend much time to say things like that on forums ... not so much because of me (actually saying things can help letting these things out), but because I don't want to hurt people who do actually love him.

I've already hurt people like that in the past, I know it, and I was really sorry about it.

These people can't understand and are shocked by these feelings ... as I can't understand and am shocked by many people's feelings about Federer's cryings.

What I want to say here is that ... people should take these for what they are : a person's feelings ... which are totally independent from the reality of these players.

I prefer saying that these are irrational feelings rather than people trying to find any ways of rationalizing to attack a player, to say that their impression is definitely "the truth", as I've often read.

We don't know these players by near at all : we only have emotions about them, that's all :shrug:

Corey Feldman
04-22-2010, 10:51 PM
http://cornedbeefhash.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picture-3.png?w=450&h=270

*sniffle sniffle.. i'm... i'm ok*

:devil:

Smoke944
04-22-2010, 10:53 PM
http://cornedbeefhash.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picture-3.png?w=450&h=270

*sniffle sniffle.. i'm... i'm ok*

:devil:

:toothy:

Filo V.
04-22-2010, 10:57 PM
+1
At least one sensible post here. I think people use the term 'hate' vaguely. If anyone really hates a player then he/she has a serious problem. :cuckoo:

Thank you! Seriously, everything you said is very true, I think some people get so emotionally wrapped up with these tennis players and their careers and lives, they live vicariously through them, and their views come from what their favorite players do and how they act on court. Anyone who beats their favorite, or acts differently is like an affront on them in a way. That's my opinion at least.

Filo V.
04-22-2010, 11:03 PM
yes, exactly



I bounce on that "without actually knowing him" :

the key point here is that tennis for many of us is a show, like when we watch concerts or something ... it's an activity which we watch because it's pleasant.

And then ... there's the moment when something uncomfortable appears in that show, something which gives you bad emotions, makes you think of bad experiences or things you don't like.

Unpleasant, uncomfortable.

That's why, I think, many people here say that they hate a player.

See all of the reactions about Federer's tears :eek: : sorry, these reactions aren't rational either imo. Something about that must have made these people think of bad experiences they've lived.

After that, the word "hate", well, doesn't mean much imo : you hate what you see, you don't hate a person when you don't know him.

As I said, I admire and feel very well about Nadal's behaviour and words out of court.

The problem is ... on court, what I see there, that's all.

By the way, when you speak about "spending a lot of energy to hate", actually I try not to spend much time to say things like that on forums ... not so much because of me (actually saying things can help letting these things out), but because I don't want to hurt people who do actually love him.

I've already hurt people like that in the past, I know it, and I was really sorry about it.

These people can't understand and are shocked by these feelings ... as I can't understand and am shocked by many people's feelings about Federer's cryings.

What I want to say here is that ... people should take these for what they are : a person's feelings ... which are totally independent from the reality of these players.

I prefer saying that these are irrational feelings rather than people trying to find any ways of rationalizing to attack a player, to say that their impression is definitely "the truth", as I've often read.

We don't know these players by near at all : we only have emotions about them, that's all :shrug:

:worship:

Yes.

Filo V.
04-22-2010, 11:11 PM
I completely agree. On the other hand, I believe some serious haters here truly do hate. I think hate and love consume as much energy since they are the same kind of emotion albeit at different end of the spectrum. When you love a player, you put your full attention to him, note all his activities, wish him well when he plays, get elated by his wins and suffer all his losses. Those haters on here did the exact same thing, putting their attention to the player they hate, watch all his matches even if they claim to hate that players so much, then they suffer when the player wins and get elated when the player loss. How else can you explain why they are always there to bash when those player loses and there to ridicule a match when the one they hate wins? They never miss a chance to insult a player they hate I don't know how those haters do that, but their passion to hate is no less than our passion to love. I don't want to say that haters are twisted, but what else can you explain why they behave that way? Emotion are irrational by nature, it's a feeling, not a thinking process. So hating someone without actually knowing him is entirely possible. As for me, I don't hate cos it costs too much energy. It's stressful to love but at least it's worth it. It's stressful to hate and totally not worth it.

It's definitely possible to hate someone you don't know, and the hate that people feel towards these sportsmen they don't know for ridiculous reasons is clearly irrational in every sense of the word. I think that people don't necessarily hate the player, they hate their unresolved feelings of said player when they see them play, and direct that at the player, when it is them with the issue. For whatever reason a particular player scrambles with their emotions on such a deep level, and causes them to attack. There is a difference when one doesn't like the playing style of a player, and then as you said, out and out disliking him as a person to the point of wanting to see him get hurt or obsessing with their matches and feeding off their losses. That type of paranoia is twisted, no bones about it.

lalaland
04-23-2010, 12:06 AM
I bounce on that "without actually knowing him"

When I said without knowing him, I meant not actually personally know him. But in truth, I think we know a lot of things about these players we love or hate, their personality that's been shown on matches, tv, mag or whatever media. Then again, I really do think ppl can hate without knowing a person. Because hate is just a strong negative emotion. We can have a strong negative emotion against certain ppl who possess principle that's against our own principle, a clash of idealogy can cause very extreme emotion. I'm not saying watching a sports will cause ppl to get that kind of emotion. But you never know, sports fans are usually very passionate.


And then ... there's the moment when something uncomfortable appears in that show, something which gives you bad emotions, makes you think of bad experiences or things you don't like.

I don't think it necessarily reminds you of bad experience, but then I don't really know. I have dislike some players, but I really just ignore them, I never bother to spend time saying anything against them since I'm not that passionate about ppl I don't like, but I'm very passionate for ppl I do like. Unpleasant for sure, if my favorite player got beaten, that will certainly causes unpleasant feelings. Itís again how much you let these negative feelings wind you up to the point that you feel hate toward the player. Like I said, emotion is very consuming, unpleasant feeling stresses you, and stress shorten life, thatís what they said in scientific studies, so I try to avoid those unnecessarily emotion such as those negative one.

I really didnít get much that you hate Rafa. You are quite rational about why you see him the way you see him.


What I want to say here is that ... people should take these for what they are : a person's feelings ... which are totally independent from the reality of these players.

Agreed. However, haters are unpleasant because they often insult players for no good reason, and they often do that to provoke. While I try not to stress much about them, I think their trick sometimes is enough to bother other ppl who rather prefer to engage in rational conversation. But itís impossible to reason with someone whoís totally irrational, and if you try, to no prevail, itís rather annoying.

lalaland
04-23-2010, 12:23 AM
I think that people don't necessarily hate the player, they hate their unresolved feelings of said player when they see them play, and direct that at the player, when it is them with the issue.

Interesting point, quite right too.


For whatever reason a particular player scrambles with their emotions on such a deep level, and causes them to attack. There is a difference when one doesn't like the playing style of a player, and then as you said, out and out disliking him as a person to the point of wanting to see him get hurt or obsessing with their matches and feeding off their losses. That type of paranoia is twisted, no bones about it.

Yes, that's the part you and I don't understand. But then, when it's irrational, it's not explainable/understandable. What I found interesting is, hate is such an unpleasant feeling, I can't understand why some tends to seek for it. By seek, I mean they keep fueling their hate by continuing to look for opportunity to hate more. Do they get a kick out of hating? It's a rather strange behavior but then again it's only strange if I try to think rationally to understand it.

sigmagirl91
04-23-2010, 01:31 AM
To me, hate is pretty extreme, and I've seen plenty of it on here. Usually, some people hate because their own boring, uneventful lives need something interesting to focus on and because some players' personalities, characters, and playing styles are outside of one's comfort zones and/or expectations. In any case, hate is wasted emotion.
On the other hand, there is love.....on the opposite end of the spectrum. I've seen just as much of that on here as well. Some posters love a player so much, and get so absorbed in that player's life and tennis game, that they actually THINK that this player pays them to be a fan. Or some of that could be a smokescreen to hide their own insecurities and shortcomings (which could also explain the hate as well).
If someone has a "love to hate" attitude with a player or players, then he or she needs a life in the worst way.

sigmagirl91
04-23-2010, 01:35 AM
There is a difference when one doesn't like the playing style of a player, and then as you said, out and out disliking him as a person to the point of wanting to see him get hurt or obsessing with their matches and feeding off their losses. That type of paranoia is twisted, no bones about it.

Absolutely, but some people don't know where the line is on this.

nobama
04-23-2010, 02:03 AM
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Mimi
04-23-2010, 03:03 AM
i am a bit surprised that Nole received so little votes, he used to have a lot of haters, or may be he is not that successful at the moment so ...:p

Filo V.
04-23-2010, 03:08 AM
Interesting point, quite right too.



Yes, that's the part you and I don't understand. But then, when it's irrational, it's not explainable/understandable. What I found interesting is, hate is such an unpleasant feeling, I can't understand why some tends to seek for it. By seek, I mean they keep fueling their hate by continuing to look for opportunity to hate more. Do they get a kick out of hating? It's a rather strange behavior but then again it's only strange if I try to think rationally to understand it.
Irrationality isn't understandable, true. Personally, I think it's just insecurity in general that makes someone act in such a fashion. They need to justify their personal hate by going back to the things that they hate, and basically trying to convince themselves and others that there is a reason for them to behave the way they do and their personal feelings are actually merited. That's what people who are irrational and have no actual reason for their attitudes do, from my experience, always looking to justify and defend their actions. It's strange and annoying, but that's because we are clear headed individuals. I just try to ignore it at the end of the day, that's all you can do.

Priam
04-23-2010, 03:21 AM
Everyone loves Juan!

octatennis
04-23-2010, 04:03 AM
where is jan silva?

lalaland
04-23-2010, 04:04 AM
Personally, I think it's just insecurity in general that makes someone act in such a fashion. They need to justify their personal hate by going back to the things that they hate, and basically trying to convince themselves and others that there is a reason for them to behave the way they do and their personal feelings are actually merited. That's what people who are irrational and have no actual reason for their attitudes do, from my experience, always looking to justify and defend their actions.


:yeah: very reasonable explanation.

duong
04-23-2010, 08:46 AM
We can have a strong negative emotion against certain ppl who possess principle that's against our own principle, a clash of idealogy can cause very extreme emotion.

yes, definitely ... once again because it hurts what you feel deep inside.

I'm not saying watching a sports will cause ppl to get that kind of emotion.

I don't think it necessarily reminds you of bad experience, but then I don't really know.

Visual emotions are different from what you said about ideologies. Yet, they may also be strong.

As for visual emotions "reminding of bad experiences", actually without these experiences, it would be impossible that this visual emotion is so strong.

Emotions always act like that actually : there's a connection in your mind between several different events.

Human mind works like that very often, with associations : even a large part of intelligence works like that, it's a well-known phenomenon, especially linguistic intelligence, it all works by associations.

When I speak of experiences, it's not necessarily something very precise : it can be many different emotions, it can go back to some parts of your life you don't remember, yet it's a part of the corpus which is your own experience and vision of life.

Actually one's personal ideology is also often related with these experiences, although the rational/dialectic part plays more role in that comparing to your personal life, than about visual emotions.

I have dislike some players, but I really just ignore them, I never bother to spend time saying anything against them.

It’s again how much you let these negative feelings wind you up to the point that you feel hate toward the player.

Like I said, emotion is very consuming, unpleasant feeling stresses you, and stress shorten life, that’s what they said in scientific studies, so I try to avoid those unnecessarily emotion such as those negative one.

it's not that simple : Nadal gives me negative emotions, yet I have a passion for watching tennis ... and he's very often there in the late rounds !

Then what should I do ? The worst part of it is when he meets Federer : I hate those matches (even if Federer wins ;) ), yet will I just go away and not watch ?

Stress is everywhere in usual persons'life, emotions are everywhere : if you want to avoid them, you have to live like buddhist monks, and very seldom people can do that :lol:

But of course I understand what you say : it's about passion, is it better to have passion or avoid ? it's a very complicated topic.

You speak about "shortening life" : actually many people prefer living a short life with passion than a long life without passion. And when you don't have passion, it's also possible that you have a short life ! :lol:


I really didn’t get much that you hate Rafa. You are quite rational about why you see him the way you see him. .

I'm rational about what I feel, and what relies from me and from him in that ... but yet I feel it : I can't help :shrug:

Emotions are usually a big part of a human being, usually people rationalize these emotions and think "it's rational" because it gives a coherence to what they are, which is emotional in a big part.

But I think that rationality is a small part of us actually.
That's what explains that I say what I say here : that I take this distance to say "OK be careful, you have this feeling not because Nadal is a violent person (just see how he behaves outside of court, just see what other people think about him), this is a visual feeling related to your own experience ".

I have not less "hatred" than Superslam77 or others, not at all (actually I share a lot with Superslam77 : I even remember his previous avatar, which was utterly connected with my own vision of Nadal's with his twitching eye ;) ).

The only difference is that I take a distance between what I feel and what is the reality of Nadal himself.

About ideologies I also know it's quite like that : I've travelled enough and met enough different persons to me, to think that my ideology is clearly the result of my life and experience, and that in a completely different context such as other persons', it might have been completely different.

However, haters are unpleasant because they often insult players for no good reason, and they often do that to provoke. While I try not to stress much about them, I think their trick sometimes is enough to bother other ppl who rather prefer to engage in rational conversation.

Actually there are two dimensions :

- there's an emotional dimension which leads us to react "emotionally" and express our emotions on this forum. I've also done it about Nadal, I've read people doing it about Federer, and it's definitely unpleasant for other people who like this player ; now I try to avoid doing it but it's hard ... when you feel like talking about a match, you feel like talking about your emotions, it's not so pleasant talking about facts : the evidence is actually that very few people on this forum actually speak about what really happened during the match, making a rational analysis : when I try to make an analysis myself, I often feel like a freak on this forum :lol:

- on forums, there's a very present "trolling dimension" : you can't even be always sure that these people who do that really hate the person they're talking about, there's a game about it. Well you know ... but it's very present.

thegreendestiny
04-23-2010, 09:18 AM
GlenMirnyi

Nole fan
04-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Agreed. However, haters are unpleasant because they often insult players for no good reason, and they often do that to provoke. While I try not to stress much about them, I think their trick sometimes is enough to bother other ppl who rather prefer to engage in rational conversation. But itís impossible to reason with someone whoís totally irrational, and if you try, to no prevail, itís rather annoying.

I couldn't have said it better myself. :worship:
And that's the main reason I actually don't like participating in forums because negativity always prevails, it's rather annoying. People insult in a way that offends me even if that insult is not directed at me. :shrug:

Nole fan
04-23-2010, 11:39 AM
On forums, there's a very present "trolling dimension" : you can't even be always sure that these people who do that really hate the person they're talking about, there's a game about it. Well you know ... but it's very present.

That's very true. But it's annoying all the same.

Nole fan
04-23-2010, 11:42 AM
i am a bit surprised that Nole received so little votes, he used to have a lot of haters, or may be he is not that successful at the moment so ...:p

Hey Mimi, don't complain. Would you rather have Nole being more hated? :lol:

tangerine_dream
04-23-2010, 03:01 PM
:hearts:

http://thekesslers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/federer_crying_au_open_09.jpg

lalaland
04-23-2010, 05:51 PM
Stress is everywhere in usual persons'life, emotions are everywhere : if you want to avoid them, you have to live like buddhist monks, and very seldom people can do that :lol:

But of course I understand what you say : it's about passion, is it better to have passion or avoid ? it's a very complicated topic.

I don't want to avoid emotions, I want to avoid unnecessary one. I rather focus on positive emotions. Like you said, emotions are everywhere, you have a lot of choices to choose how you spend them, why waste it on the negative one? Thereís enough stress in everyday life that you canít avoid, even small things like you got stuck in traffic and you already late for workÖ As you said, tennis is entertainment, get the most out of it by actually enjoying it rather than making you hate.


You speak about "shortening life" : actually many people prefer living a short life with passion than a long life without passion. And when you don't have passion, it's also possible that you have a short life ! :lol:

I donít ever said living a passionate life will shorten the longevity of it. I said stress shorten life because it is a big cause for a lot of health issues, besides itís not only about how long you live, but it's the quality of life you are living. In fact, it's not possible to live a stress-free life. And as for sports, I don't think one can enjoy sports if you aren't passionate about it. I know I can't, cos if I don't give a damn who wins, I lost interest watching. And the adrenaline that I get from watching is fantastic. If you ever saw me watch a hockey game, you will probably think Iím a lunatic :lol:. But I try to focus on the part that makes me happy, and try not to dwell on the part that makes me sad/angry. Thatís sports, always up and down and thatís why we love it. But when my team lost, I move on to something else and try not to dwell on the negative feelings, thatís just how I deal.

cocrcici
04-24-2010, 01:20 AM
GlenMirnyi

lol

Persimmon
04-24-2010, 02:26 AM
:oOnly 34 votes for Djokovic ?? Even forum server hates Djokovic so much that he doesn't want to count Novak's votes


Because Nole is so 2 years ago:o Or almost so 3 years ago...

I don't like Del Potro at all. I think his USO was a fluke like Sabatini's USO 20 years ago:eek: Right place and right time. Streaky.

tennishero
04-24-2010, 02:40 AM
GlenMirnyi

:lol:

+1

what happened to him anyway?

duong
04-24-2010, 09:04 AM
I don't want to avoid emotions, I want to avoid unnecessary one. I rather focus on positive emotions. Like you said, emotions are everywhere, you have a lot of choices to choose how you spend them, why waste it on the negative one? Thereís enough stress in everyday life that you canít avoid, even small things like you got stuck in traffic and you already late for workÖ As you said, tennis is entertainment, get the most out of it by actually enjoying it rather than making you hate.



I donít ever said living a passionate life will shorten the longevity of it. I said stress shorten life because it is a big cause for a lot of health issues, besides itís not only about how long you live, but it's the quality of life you are living. In fact, it's not possible to live a stress-free life. And as for sports, I don't think one can enjoy sports if you aren't passionate about it. I know I can't, cos if I don't give a damn who wins, I lost interest watching. And the adrenaline that I get from watching is fantastic. If you ever saw me watch a hockey game, you will probably think Iím a lunatic :lol:. But I try to focus on the part that makes me happy, and try not to dwell on the part that makes me sad/angry. Thatís sports, always up and down and thatís why we love it. But when my team lost, I move on to something else and try not to dwell on the negative feelings, thatís just how I deal.

Your words are very wise and mature, Lalaland, you're mainly right definitely.

But even in your words one can see it's not simple at all :lol:

There are many emotions one can't avoid (as I told you, if the match is Nadal against Federer, I can't just go somewhere and not watch :lol: ).

And also it's not always so easy to only keep good emotions and avoid bad ones, it's not even always easy to separate them :lol:

Ask artists what they think, it's complicated :shrug:

Having lived both periods, with too many/too little emotions, well a life with many emotions is hard to forget, and I'm not sure what's best in the long term, it depends on people, on the context, on your living condition as well ... the main point is that many people can't even afford a life with many emotions, they have no choice :sad:

Others have a choice and make the wrong one :lol:

But some make the right one ;)

FlameOn
04-24-2010, 10:34 AM
Delpo and Nando coming last in this poll. :yeah:

superslam77
04-24-2010, 11:33 AM
:hearts:

http://thekesslers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/federer_crying_au_open_09.jpg

That is so last year :wavey:

this year though

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/feb2010/5/8/andy-murray-pic-getty-images-852821445.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Australian+Open+2010+Men+Champion+Photocall+bIf4Jt 5SZMKl.jpg

Certinfy
04-24-2010, 11:37 AM
How can u compare Federer's crying to Murray's crying? Murray's was no where near as bad.

superslam77
04-24-2010, 11:41 AM
How can u compare Federer's crying to Murray's crying? Murray's was no where near as bad.

it was worse though...looked uglier and missed his last chance :devil:

sup Jase my homie :lol:

FlameOn
04-24-2010, 11:41 AM
How can u compare Federer's crying to Murray's crying? Murray's was no where near as bad.
Yeah Murray actually tried to contain his. :lol:

superslam77
04-24-2010, 11:43 AM
Yeah Murray actually tried to contain his. :lol:

but who got the last laugh eh :devil:

FlameOn
04-24-2010, 11:47 AM
but who got the last laugh eh :devil:
Oh well, I'm not a Murray or Federer fan so I don't care. :p

MrChopin
04-24-2010, 01:12 PM
This thread is getting good.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01566/nadal_gty_1566297c.jpg

Corey Feldman
04-24-2010, 01:15 PM
thats usually Rafa's expression when he's asked if he's fave to beat Volandri on clay

Il Primo Uomo
04-24-2010, 01:31 PM
I'm naturally a hater. But it has to be Roddick and then Fido.

jadey
04-24-2010, 08:44 PM
How can u compare Federer's crying to Murray's crying? Murray's was no where near as bad.

agree , Murray cries like a MAN , Roger like a baby who dropped his rattle :bigcry:

duong
04-24-2010, 09:00 PM
Yeah Murray actually tried to contain his. :lol:

Federer as well : if he hadn't tried, he wouldn't have cried so much, that's how it works ;)

andy neyer
04-24-2010, 09:05 PM
Fed and Murray are both crybabies. Deal with it, fangirls.

duong
04-24-2010, 09:07 PM
Fed and Murray are both crybabies. Deal with it, fangirls.

Many ladies love men crying ;)

andy neyer
04-24-2010, 09:09 PM
Many ladies love men crying ;)

True... Come to think of it, Murray probably did it on purpose just to get Kim back.

Nole fan
04-24-2010, 09:29 PM
Many ladies love men crying ;)

Completely true. I actually started liking Roger after I watched him cry at the AO final. It was endearing and touching, he almost seemed human. :kiss:

jadey
04-24-2010, 09:35 PM
True... Come to think of it, Murray probably did it on purpose just to get Kim back.

:lol: guess it worked

lalaland
04-24-2010, 09:36 PM
But even in your words one can see it's not simple at all :lol:



I didn't say it's simple, you seem to interpret my words in a black or white manner though. I don't mean you turn a switch on and off to tune out negative things. Wouldn't that be awesome if one can do that. I am generally a very emotional person and for a very long time, have experience very up and down extreme emotions that affected my life not in a very good way. Until recently, I finally figure that you have a way to control it that has a lot to do with changing your perspective at seeing things, that you can try to not get affect so much by things that upset you. To me, that's a very liberated thing. But anyhow, we're so off topic but I really enjoy this discussion, it's more interesting than to see someone said I hate so and so because I just do :p, but that's the whole point of this thread so I'm not complaining. And for the true haters on MTF, it's not even necessary to post on it, cos we already know who are they hating, they make sure to express their hate in a very regular basis. ;)

duong
04-24-2010, 09:43 PM
I didn't say it's simple, you seem to interpret my words in a black or white manner though. I don't mean you turn a switch on and off to tune out negative things. Wouldn't that be awesome if one can do that. I am generally a very emotional person and for a very long time, have experience very up and down extreme emotions that affected my life not in a very good way. Until recently, I finally figure that you have a way to control it that has a lot to do with changing your perspective at seeing things, that you can try to not get affect so much by things that upset you. To me, that's a very liberated thing. But anyhow, we're so off topic but I really enjoy this discussion, it's more interesting than to see someone said I hate so and so because I just do :p, but that's the whole point of this thread so I'm not complaining. And for the true haters on MTF, it's not even necessary to post on it, cos we already know who are they hating, they make sure to express their hate in a very regular basis. ;)

I hadn't interpreted your words in black or white, honestly :)

Your message actually showed that it was not a simple thing ;) , it depends so much on people and periods of their life :shrug:

Your experience sounds interesting, my message was only that it's very relative and complicated :shrug:

lalaland
04-24-2010, 10:12 PM
I hadn't interpreted your words in black or white, honestly :)

Your message actually showed that it was not a simple thing ;) , it depends so much on people and periods of their life :shrug:

Your experience sounds interesting, my message was only that it's very relative and complicated :shrug:

:)
It's the most difficult thing to do. But we saw that happen all the time. Those headcase tennis player maturing and finally not letting their emotions get in the way and focusing on the big picture. We aren't athletes but it's the same concept, we just use it to deal with other life issues. So it can be done ;). Then again, some headcases will always be headcases no matter what.

Anyway, all these are just to explain to you why I don't hate, don't mean to explain why haters hate, it's an entire different thing, but I think flyboy's post explain it very well.

duong
04-24-2010, 10:28 PM
:)
It's the most difficult thing to do. But we saw that happen all the time. Those headcase tennis player maturing and finally not letting their emotions get in the way and focusing on the big picture. We aren't athletes but it's the same concept, we just use it to deal with other life issues. So it can be done ;). Then again, some headcases will always be headcases no matter what.

Anyway, all these are just to explain to you why I don't hate, don't mean to explain why haters hate, it's an entire different thing, but I think flyboy's post explain it very well.

You look in a serenity which is far from mine :lol:

Some may ask you your secret ;)

Playmoretennis10
04-26-2010, 01:11 AM
Roddick for sure. He is such a girl on the court! Always complaining and arguing, swearing everywhere! Dude, just play

tangerine_dream
07-12-2010, 04:42 PM
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9633/bumpvm4.gif

Anybody wanna add to the list? :)

emotion
07-12-2010, 04:59 PM
nadal nadal nadal nadal nadal nadal

BK 201
07-12-2010, 05:02 PM
Choketasco. Frikkin' clown.

MacTheKnife
07-12-2010, 05:29 PM
I don't hate anyone I've never been married to.. There are a couple of WTA players that push it though.. :lol:

MurrayFan1
07-12-2010, 06:16 PM
Roger Federer.

Seeing him crumble (by his standards) since Nadal has come along is only exciting for the sport.

Elena.
07-30-2010, 09:15 PM
It used to be Rogie but i am over it,it's quite some time now.Also Roddick used to get on my nerves but i'm over it too.On the other hand i used to like Rafito but now i am a bit bored with him !

Certinfy
07-30-2010, 09:21 PM
Federer, Nadal, Gonzalez, Gasquet and Gulbis.