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Djokovic, Delpotro and Murray - who will have the better career?

Speed of Light
02-16-2010, 02:04 PM
All three are in the current top 5, along with the Goat duo of Federror and Nadal and are among the youngest of the top ten.
I think if Novak can work on his fitness and tone down the faking part he is more talented and a much higher quality shot maker than the other two and i least dislike him among the three so my vote goes to him.
Edit: In reply to Goldenoldie's question, i would like to clarify that i meant better as in the person who will end up with more slams and as a consequence stand a better chance to earn more prize money and be more remembered after their career ends.

abraxas21
02-16-2010, 02:07 PM
There's only one GOAT and that's Roger Federer. Nadal simply doesn't have the drive to be the GOAT :)

electronicmusic
02-16-2010, 02:24 PM
def. Murray.

Goldenoldie
02-16-2010, 02:24 PM
There are many different ways of defining "better" (actually it should be "best" as there are more than two options)
Number of slams
Number of titles
Number of weeks at #1 (or #2 if never #1)
Amount of prize money won
etc etc.

Sorry, but the question is too vague.

Murraylicious
02-16-2010, 02:33 PM
Murray is more talented

rocketassist
02-16-2010, 02:38 PM
Depends how long Federer keeps at the top level IMO. The longer he does, the more likely one of the first two wins this poll with their 1 slam to 0.

If however he does not, then Murray can definitely surpass the other two.

madmax
02-16-2010, 02:48 PM
Del Pony clearly has the biggest game of the bunch, it's only a matter of his health and fitness to deliver it at the slams - so my vote goes for the giant argie

MagicMilan
02-16-2010, 03:46 PM
My vote goes to Del Potro too, the other 2 play like pansies too often

tennishero
02-16-2010, 03:50 PM
There's only one GOAT and that's Roger Federer. Nadal simply doesn't have the drive to be the GOAT :)

lol


delpo will have the best career, followed by djokovic, then murray.

Ibracadabra
02-16-2010, 03:50 PM
Logic would suggest del potro, as when all 3 were 20 he had acheived more than both andy and novak, coupled with the fact his attacking gaming is vastly superior to both aswell. Only thing that can stop him is injuries which have the better of him at the moment.

paseo
02-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Murray. He is the least likely to get upset by lower rank players, so he'll gonna reach more later stages of tournaments. The only player that can beat him regularly is Fed, and Fed is getting old. Murray got time on his side. Once Fed start to fade, Murray will start winning slams and be #1.

Guga_fan
02-16-2010, 04:06 PM
Murray. He is the least likely to get upset by lower rank players, so he'll gonna reach more later stages of tournaments. The only player that can beat him regularly is Fed, and Fed is getting old. Murray got time on his side. Once Fed start to fade, Murray will start winning slams and be #1.
When Delpo is fit he is the one less likely to get upset. A good attacking player can always trouble Murray in a good day, that doesn't happen as often with Del Potro.

People are talking about Murray only losing to Federer as if Federer is the one who always takes him down at the Slams, but Del Potro has played agaisnt Federer in Slams more often then Murray. :confused:

Ibracadabra
02-16-2010, 04:08 PM
Not to mention del potro beat roger in his first slam final unlike andy, who is yet to take a set from him in grand slam final play.

Everko
02-16-2010, 04:13 PM
Djokovic easily. He will win a few more slams at least. His gamje is more potent on all surfaces. Murray is a clown on clay and his game is too weak. Del Potro is a clown on grass and he is about to be replaced by Cilic.

sammy01
02-16-2010, 04:20 PM
depends how you class success, murray and nole will probably have the more consistent career due to the nature of their steadier games and not being so tall/injury prone.

del potro looks like he might have an up and down career, due to him already being injury prone and the obvious effort his tennis takes out of him.

to conclude i see del potro from here on having the greater highs, but also the lower lows. murray and nole will be steady but maybe always 1 'hot' player better then them at the biggest tournaments.

Clydey
02-16-2010, 04:21 PM
Logic would suggest del potro, as when all 3 were 20 he had acheived more than both andy and novak, coupled with the fact his attacking gaming is vastly superior to both aswell. Only thing that can stop him is injuries which have the better of him at the moment.

And Nadal had achieved a lot more at 20 than Federer had.

duong
02-16-2010, 04:33 PM
What I would guess is that Murray might have the most consistent carreer in terms of number one ... but Del Potro would have the most brilliant one. As for Djokovic, he has a lot in his tennis (although I disagree with the OP about him "being the best shotmaker") and esp he's lucky that he has everything in his tennis to counter the modern power players like Del Potro, Söderling or Cilic, but he has made me disappointed last 2 years, still these health problems and also doesn't look fully concentrated in tennis as the other two ones. As far as tennis is concerned, he could be the best one imo :shrug:

Ivanatis
02-16-2010, 04:40 PM
I don't know, DelPo maybe:shrug:

Ibracadabra
02-16-2010, 04:41 PM
And Nadal had achieved a lot more at 20 than Federer had.

If del potro ended up with 6 grand slams that would be far and away greater than what murray or novak would achieve in my opinion. Attacking players win slams, and novak can attack.

SetSampras
02-16-2010, 05:08 PM
If Del Potro can stay healthy he will have the best career but Im not sure he will since he is constantly injured. Though it should be Djokovic. Murray is a pusher primarily. Pushers dont see great success. They see short term success usually though but nothing in terms of big career longevity. Djoker has the ability to attack, play aggressive, play great defense, serve pretty big etc

paseo
02-16-2010, 05:10 PM
When Delpo is fit he is the one less likely to get upset. A good attacking player can always trouble Murray in a good day, that doesn't happen as often with Del Potro.

People are talking about Murray only losing to Federer as if Federer is the one who always takes him down at the Slams, but Del Potro has played agaisnt Federer in Slams more often then Murray. :confused:

You're looking too far back. From what I see from Murray in AO10, I think he's better than he was ever been in the past. Del Potro can play spectacular, but I don't think he's as consistent as Murray & Djokovic. Del Potro might have a career like Safin, IMO. And I don't know why, but Del Potro is having a hard time beating Murray. That's why I think Murray will be more successful.

I know I'm counting out Djokovic here, it's because he's the more likely to get upset by lower ranked players. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, though. But, until Fed starts to fade, it's gonna be tough for the three of them to win slams and be #1.

Mechlan
02-16-2010, 05:51 PM
Djokovic has the most potential. He could be consistently good and has no obvious weaknesses that can be taken advantage of. But so far he's shown no signs of taking that extra step to get to the top.

Del Potro is capable of playing fantastic tennis, but he's also got a pretty serious liability in his movement (good as it is). I can see the top players figuring out how to beat him over time. However, he appears to have the winning mentality which is really important at the topmost level, and when he's playing well, I can see him beating everybody.

Murray has come a long way in terms of fitness and learning how to beat the lesser ranked players while conserving energy for the big matches. But he doesn't have the firepower of the other two and can definitely be hit off the court. That said, his talent and hunger to win are probably greater than the other two.

Guga_fan
02-16-2010, 05:52 PM
You're looking too far back. From what I see from Murray in AO10, I think he's better than he was ever been in the past. Del Potro can play spectacular, but I don't think he's as consistent as Murray & Djokovic. Del Potro might have a career like Safin, IMO. And I don't know why, but Del Potro is having a hard time beating Murray. That's why I think Murray will be more successful.

I know I'm counting out Djokovic here, it's because he's the more likely to get upset by lower ranked players. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, though. But, until Fed starts to fade, it's gonna be tough for the three of them to win slams and be #1.
Too far back? I'm considering just the past year and this one, and Del Potro rarely has problems defeating lower ranked players. Murray doesn't look better now then he did by the end of 2008, in my opinion. And the H2H between the two is something I won't risk guessing, really, but in a Grand Slam I would probably put my money on Del Potro.

In my opinion Djokovic is the best of the three, but he is a headcase nowadays, still struggles with his fitness, and is serving much worse than 2 years ago, so it's hard to predict much about him, really.

marcRD
02-16-2010, 06:17 PM
If Federer wouldnt exist it would be Djokovic, who clearly is most consistant of the 3 on grand slams. With Federer around I will have to go with Delpo who seems to be able to beat anyone when he is ON. Murray and Djokovic are showing signs of getting mentaly exhausted of beatdowns against Federer in important matches, in Djokovics case you have to add all matches against Nadal on clay.

SetSampras
02-16-2010, 06:20 PM
If Federer wouldnt exist it would be Djokovic, who clearly is most consistant of the 3 on grand slams. With Federer around I will have to go with Delpo who seems to be able to beat anyone when he is ON. Murray and Djokovic are showing signs of getting mentaly exhausted of beatdowns against Federer in important matches, in Djokovics case you have to add all matches against Nadal on clay.



Djokovic has gone out to Kohlschrieber, Haas, Safin, Roddick, Tsonga, Fed at the USO(Though Del Potro would have crushed Djoker in the finals anyways), among others over the last season or two.


Fed has nothing to do with it even though everyone wants to credit Fed for taking everyones slam opportunities away. Djoker cant even make it through his own damn draw at the slams.

If Djoker had the ability to make it through his draws consistently and getting stopped by Fed at the majority of these slams then I would agree. But that isnt the case

Nr 1 Fan
02-16-2010, 06:24 PM
Del Potro's win over Federer in the Us open is the sort of thing that a player needs to do, a step you have to take, something you have to overcome, to become a top player. I think that has been a career boost for Del Potro. So I think if he keeps fit and stays healthy he can have the biggest career, or at least he can start his 'big' career earlier. He seems to be on a higher level mentally in the big moments and when he is on, he is unstoppable.

marcRD
02-16-2010, 06:29 PM
Djokovic has gone out to Kohlschrieber, Haas, Safin, Roddick, Tsonga, Fed at the USO(Though Del Potro would have crushed Djoker in the finals anyways), among others over the last season or two.


Fed has nothing to do with it even though everyone wants to credit Fed for taking everyones slam opportunities away. Djoker cant even make it through his own damn draw at the slams.

If Djoker had the ability to make it through his draws consistently and getting stopped by Fed at the majority of these slams then I would agree. But that isnt the case

Yeah, but 3 straight loses in finals and semifinals at USOPEN (maybe Djokovics best surface), 1-9 in sets is just humiliating for Djokovic.

SetSampras
02-16-2010, 06:43 PM
Yeah, but 3 straight loses in finals and semifinals at USOPEN (maybe Djokovics best surface), 1-9 in sets is just humiliating for Djokovic.

I agree.. Djoker is tremendously underachieving at this point. And all the opportunity in the world is there for him currently with Nadal out Del Potro out and Murray being routed at slams. He has had so many chances thats what I dont get.

Persimmon
02-16-2010, 10:11 PM
Nole because he is an all court player who has already reached the SF of all 4 slams. Meanwhile Murray(fO) and Del Potro(wimbledon) have a weak surface/weak slam. Plus, Nole is not injury prone like Del Potro... Nole can play more tournaments in a year than Murray without getting tired or injured like Murray.

lessthanjake
02-16-2010, 10:16 PM
I agree.. Djoker is tremendously underachieving at this point. And all the opportunity in the world is there for him currently with Nadal out Del Potro out and Murray being routed at slams. He has had so many chances thats what I dont get.

He is not yet playing up to his potential. He is quite young though. I don't see that this is much different than the dips in quality that Sampras and Agassi had after their first slam wins.

Noleta
02-16-2010, 10:26 PM
Good question,shame i don't know the answer.

Speed of Light
02-17-2010, 05:53 AM
Amazing to see majority for Potro who is a fluke with nothing but injuries infront of him.

Speed of Light
09-12-2010, 12:51 AM
I guess it might as well end up being, Novak, who has the better career.

Persimmon
09-12-2010, 01:09 AM
Nole, duh.

Federer-Fan
12-26-2013, 05:06 PM
According to poll results, Djokovic was really underrated in 2010. In my opinion, it really was obvious that he will have had a better career than both Murray and del Potro.