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Poll: Which Grand Slam tennis television commentator is the best?

2003
02-03-2010, 10:09 AM
Dead Jolly is a veteran, commentates primarily on the Australian Open but also on the French Open. We down under are forced to put up with the old man calling most of the matches and all the finals.

Cron Smackenroe is one of the games greatest, he knows the sport the pressures and what players feel in grand slam matches. Simply has insight no one else does on the commentary teams. But a Dafidala Nutella bandwaggoner and annoyed me and many others when he patronised Federer with a hug after the 2008Wimbledon title was stolen from him.

Lorus Pecker is always pleasant to listen to, a good player in his prime who knows what it
takes to win grand slam matches.

Silly Iceburger adds statistical analysis to matches in a way not many others do.

Bim Fastways/FedEx Couriers is a bit annoying, the arrogance he talks with you'd think he won 27
slam titles. He is also not funny in the post match interviews on court. The drunk uninformed crowds will laugh at anything (see 1vacuum Joker BITCH 2007immiatations for proof).

Grim Shenman choked constantly on the biggest stage, but he knows about the conspiracy to
slow down Wimbledon grass and talks openly about it, a brave man challenging the establishment.

Ted Volley has already been mentioned, but hes so old I thought id put two of him in here.

Dyke L Deaf-felt Bitch is boring to listen to, and adds no real insight into the game of tennis or what it takes to win.

Carcus Fuckland is a solid commentator, never says much funny stuff but is interesting enough.

Dat Smash is a legend, a solid commentator. Never mind listening to him.

So who is the most informed, interesting and if possible funny tennis commentator at Grand Slams? They don't have to be English speaking.

coonster14
02-03-2010, 10:40 AM
darren cahill, todd woodbridge, john mcenroe, jim courier are the commentators i like listening to.

Byrd
02-03-2010, 11:15 AM
Rusedski and Castle, preferably together.

Dini
02-03-2010, 11:17 AM
Rusedski and Castle, preferably together.

Hell. :hysteric:

alter ego
02-03-2010, 11:43 AM
Simon Reed.

-Valhalla-
02-03-2010, 12:10 PM
The GOOD: Johnny Mac, Brad Gilbert, Darren Cahill, Ted Robinson, Chris Fowler.

The BAD [very average]: Martina Navratilova, Cliff Drysdale, Patrick McEnroe.

... and the UGLY [the truly insufferable]: Dick Enberg, Mary Carillo, Justin Gimelstob, Mary Joe Fernandez.

ApproachShot
02-03-2010, 01:14 PM
Henri Leconte...
Joking aside I quite agree with your list, Valhalla. Nonetheless I wouldn't say Navratilova is bad - she provides some good insights from time to time.

FairWeatherFan
02-03-2010, 01:21 PM
Darren Cahill is the best IMO. I also like J McEnroe.

The worst, well, in Australia we have this guy called John Alexander, man he is awful.

Dini
02-03-2010, 01:24 PM
Henri Leconte...
Joking aside I quite agree with your list, Valhalla. Nonetheless I wouldn't say Navratilova is bad - she provides some good insights from time to time.

Good insights, yes. But she can be such a motormouth - constant talk. Reminds me of JMac whose comments can be very interesting but he loves the sound of his own voice. :o :p

-Valhalla-
02-03-2010, 01:50 PM
Henri Leconte...
Joking aside I quite agree with your list, Valhalla. Nonetheless I wouldn't say Navratilova is bad - she provides some good insights from time to time.

True. You'll always get some great insights from a champion of Martina's caliber and experience, but she's oftentimes too pedantic, and her monotone, colorless voice can be sleep-inducing.

-Valhalla-
02-03-2010, 02:06 PM
Jim Courier is alright. I'd give him a solid B.
[and when asked about one of D. Safina's matches last year at the USO, he described it as "very sweaty" :lol:

Ibracadabra
02-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Andrew castle

Farrow
02-03-2010, 03:05 PM
Just the sound of Andrew Castle makes me want to vomit. Henman is boring, but not annoying.

John McEnroe is by far the best. I also quite like Jo Durie. Most are pretty hopeless.

Jōris
02-03-2010, 03:12 PM
In Dutch, Theo Bakker. Doesn't talk too much, has a pleasant voice, is insightful. On the downside is a fedtard.
In English, Michael Stich. Doesn't talk too much, doesn't mind offending people, is insightful.

wally1
02-03-2010, 08:27 PM
In Dutch, Theo Bakker. Doesn't talk too much, has a pleasant voice, is insightful. On the downside is a fedtard.
In English, Michael Stich. Doesn't talk too much, doesn't mind offending people, is insightful.Agree with Stich. When I've heard him on the BBC he's one of the very few who doesn't just talk crap or state the blindingly obvious.

Andrew Castle is about as bad as it's possible to be.

Nidhogg
02-03-2010, 08:45 PM
Swedish Eurosport have three commentators. Birger Folke is boring and talks waay too much. Rolf Norberg is decent, and Maria Strandlund-Tomsvik, the captain for the Swedish Fed Cup team, is quite good.

JackPumpkinHead
02-03-2010, 08:49 PM
I wish Robbie Koenig and Jason Goodall from the masters series could commentate every match

harrywang5
02-03-2010, 08:53 PM
I wish Robbie Koenig and Jason Goodall from the masters series could commentate every match

Agree, nobody else even comes close to insight, right times to speak and humor.

KarlyM
02-03-2010, 11:31 PM
Darren Cahill is my favorite. :)
My least favorite is rather obvious (look down...). :lol:

oranges
02-03-2010, 11:35 PM
I'm not always entirely sure who's who, but I believe Cahill is the one I like the most. I'm not too fond of Mac, he both talks too much and likes to hype too much for my taste in between some actually good commentary.

Where does Stich commentate?

Action Jackson
02-03-2010, 11:37 PM
Stich and Magnus Larsson.

Ferrero Forever
02-03-2010, 11:52 PM
Gotta go with Courier, but also quite like McEnroe (and Henri Leconte, but thats a different story)

Hewitt =Legend
02-03-2010, 11:52 PM
John Alexander plugging cougar town at every change of ends:

"Hey Jim, I wish I was locked in a cage with one of those cougars"

"Awkward Silence"

"And you can see that after the tennis"

Oh and he's a complete idiot.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-04-2010, 05:13 AM
Javier Frana.

bad gambler
02-04-2010, 05:58 AM
Killer Cahill

bobrocks
02-04-2010, 06:07 AM
The GOOD: Johnny Mac, Brad Gilbert, Darren Cahill, Ted Robinson, Chris Fowler.

The BAD [very average]: Martina Navratilova, Cliff Drysdale, Patrick McEnroe.

... and the UGLY [the truly insufferable]: Dick Enberg, Mary Carillo, Justin Gimelstob, Mary Joe Fernandez.

I agree with your 'best' list. I'd put Patrick up near there too. And I don't mind Mary Carillo.

Arkulari
02-04-2010, 06:29 AM
International: Robbie Koenig, Jason Goodall, Darren Cahill and Michael Stich; worst: Brad Gilbert and Mary Jo Fernandez (her on-court interviews while there is a match in course makes me want to choke her, Rosewall was trying to watch the Fed/Muzza match and there she was pestering him :retard: )

Spain: Alex Corretja (and it isn't even close), Nico Abad is pathetic, the rest aren't much better (Nacho Calvo comes to mind, same with ESV) and as much as I like Manolo Santana, his voice is really lost in the commentaries, gotta love how he calls Roger "El Campeonísimo" though :lol:

LatinAmerica: Javier Frana (sadly he's only covering GS from now on, we're stuck with Tony Pena and Clerc for the rest of tournaments, just don't bring Varela PLEASE :help: )

saniapower
02-04-2010, 11:46 AM
Darren Cahill and Michael Stich

saniapower
02-04-2010, 11:46 AM
and also Vijay Amritraj

ChinoRios4Ever
02-04-2010, 08:28 PM
LatinAmerica: Javier Frana (sadly he's only covering GS from now on, we're stuck with Tony Pena and Clerc for the rest of tournaments, just don't bring Varela PLEASE :help: )

Very sad, Clerc's QUE LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDOOOOOOOO OOO are terrible :o

Same for Tony Pena's: "YYYYYY su combo favorito de saque y derecha, o saque con carga de slice".... :rolls: And still his worshipping for Delpo, too good it's not Salatino in FOX Sports. e.g. in a match with Federer with a random player and he talks 90% of the time of how great is/was Coria and Nalbandian. :p, or a match with Robredo and Almagro he says: eeehhh they are from the Coria-Nalbandian's era and bla bla bla... :lol:

abraxas21
02-04-2010, 08:39 PM
Very sad, Clerc's QUE LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDOOOOOOOO OOO are terrible :o

Same for Tony Pena's: "YYYYYY su combo favorito de saque y derecha, o saque con carga de slice".... :rolls: And still his worshipping for Delpo, too good it's not Salatino in FOX Sports. e.g. in a match with Federer with a random player and he talks 90% of the time of how great is/was Coria and Nalbandian. :p, or a match with Robredo and Almagro he says: eeehhh they are from the Coria-Nalbandian's era and bla bla bla... :lol:

lol yes

Frana is insightful, makes good points, etc, but he tends to stay quiet for too long some times. Still, he's a great commentator, the best I've heard in fact. From what I gather he doesn't like Federer too much. He will say he's a great player and all that but I think he doesn't like his attitude. During the AO he more or less questioned the reasons he had for crying at the last year AO final.

I actually like Clerc, tbh. Totally different style to Frana and less politically correct also. He totally loves Roger. I remember when Federer was number 2 he still used to referr to Federer as the "best player in the world". He makes some good points at times but I tend to get the feeling that he thinks "he owns the truth" as we say around here. At times I've found him slightly disrespectful to his commentator-mate.

As for Salatino, it's been ages since the last time I've listened to him. He used to talk a lot even during points of totally unrelated stuff which was kind of annoying. I remember one time he said that Nadal wasn't talented at all and then went on to praise Federer abilities and supreme talent... I gotta love him for daring to speak his mind.

I totally agree with you about Pena.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-04-2010, 08:53 PM
I forgot it, Clerc said in the AO: "Here's Andy Murray, for me the most talented player in the ATP right now"... :lol:

Arkulari
02-04-2010, 09:08 PM
Frana is the most objetive one, we can't know if he likes Roger or not because he never really talks about it

Clerc is a dowright bandwagoner "El Rafa" when Rafa was #1 and Pena is annoying, speaking about the tech aspects of a stroke that happened two games ago :o

One I can't stand is Varela, when he commentates with Clerc, it's Lalo and Batata time :help:

Keep him in american football but away from tennis please

abraxas21
02-04-2010, 09:30 PM
Frana is the most objetive one, we can't know if he likes Roger or not because he never really talks about it

I know. It's just my impression but I certainly cannot pass it as a fact :)

Frana is by far the most objective and insightful commentator I've heard of... Except when an Argie is on court. He roots for South Americans obviously but he does it a lot more for Argentineans, which is understandable, tbh.

serveandvolley80
02-04-2010, 10:01 PM
Brad Gilbert is the worst, these guys are supposed to try hard not to show their bias, the guy blatantly makes bad commentary and horrible analysis based on which player he has a boner for next, the guy is the least objective.

The best would have to be Darren Cahill, John McCenroe is good, very professional for someone that was the exact opposite on the court.

TennisLurker
02-04-2010, 11:00 PM
I like Frana, unlike Clerc who was a top 5 player who won many titles and made slam semifinals, Frana was only a journeyman but he is a much better commentator.

It looks like often great players make the worst commentators.

Clerc is just annoying, I hate those "que lindo!"

Salatino was the worst, never shuts up, makes predictions and fails.

TennisLurker
02-04-2010, 11:04 PM
The issue is that he commentates as if he were watching the match at home, with a friend, eating chips, and he feels like he can talk about anythiing unrelated to the match, it is very annoying.

Clerc isn't a bad commentator, he is just annoying.

Is Varela the American Football Mexican?

TennisLurker
02-04-2010, 11:08 PM
I have a few Tim Henman tapes, and the british commentators who refer to him as "Timmy" are quite terrible. I don't actually know who they are.

"Timmy must be feeling a lot of pressure, because he knows Ferreira is good enough to beat him, but the press would consider it a bad loss"

r2473
02-04-2010, 11:22 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LGX-ae7EQBI/R5QgmMFyTcI/AAAAAAAAB9U/42kDFILSvcw/s400/mary%2Bgoofy.JPG

"Dum-De-De-Dum-Dum-Dum ought to be the theme song for a lot of these tennis commentators. In particular today we have the ever present ESPN commentator, Mary Carillo.

Today during Venus Williams' match with Marta Domachowska, Mary Carillo decided she'd pay Venus Williams a compliment. The compliment stemmed from Venus and her opponent Sania Mirza standing their ground and refusing to have their third-round match bumped to the next day or to another court after the tournament organizers found themselves facing a backlog due to the late finish of the "daytime" match between Roger Federer and Janko Tipsarevic.

Well, for whatever reason Carillo felt that it was necessary to qualify her compliment, and here is the qualification:

"that's not to say that Venus and her sister don't say all kinds of nutty, goofy stuff as well as contradict themselves....."

r2473
02-04-2010, 11:30 PM
http://www.tennis-ontheline.com/pics/02us/02usgt2.jpg

Justin Gimelstob with PR consultant Jeff Tarango


"Don't worry Justin. I'll have my wife kick the shit out of Anna"


On Kournikova...

"She is a bitch. Hate's a very strong word. I despise her to the maximum level just below hate... I wouldn't mind having my younger brother, who's a kind of a stud, nail her and then reap the benefits."

"She has a great body but her face is a five."


On the women's tour...

"There are fewer lesbians now because they're all Russian chicks. And there's some other cute ones out there."

Andi-M
02-04-2010, 11:36 PM
Commentators I like: Jonny Mac, Mark Petchey, Peter Fleming, Robbie Koenig, Chris Bailey.

asmazif
02-04-2010, 11:38 PM
Agree, nobody else even comes close to insight, right times to speak and humor.

Thirded.

tennishero
02-04-2010, 11:58 PM
i dont really know their names, i like the south african one though, good sense of humour.
dont like the 2 old snobby english commentators, both are fedtards.

serveandvolley80
02-05-2010, 12:26 AM
http://www.tennis-ontheline.com/pics/02us/02usgt2.jpg

Justin Gimelstob with PR consultant Jeff Tarango


"Don't worry Justin. I'll have my wife kick the shit out of Anna"


On Kournikova...

"She is a bitch. Hate's a very strong word. I despise her to the maximum level just below hate... I wouldn't mind having my younger brother, who's a kind of a stud, nail her and then reap the benefits."

"She has a great body but her face is a five."


On the women's tour...

"There are fewer lesbians now because they're all Russian chicks. And there's some other cute ones out there."

I believe my new hero is Justin.

Arkulari
02-05-2010, 01:35 AM
The issue is that he commentates as if he were watching the match at home, with a friend, eating chips, and he feels like he can talk about anythiing unrelated to the match, it is very annoying.

Clerc isn't a bad commentator, he is just annoying.

Is Varela the American Football Mexican?

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos2006/1020/varela_180x250.jpg

Yup, the one who usually screws up and the others have to correct him a bit, stick to american football Lalo, you're worthless for tennis :lol:

Mechlan
02-05-2010, 01:40 AM
Cahill and Johnny Mac.

leng jai
02-05-2010, 01:44 AM
Leconte if constanting orgasm like sound effects over french players and zero actual tennis analysis is your thing.

guga2120
02-05-2010, 02:35 AM
Darren Cahill, seems to know his stuff better than anybody.

magnoliaewan
02-05-2010, 02:47 AM
I like Patrick McEnroe the best. He comes up with awesome expressions.

abraxas21
02-05-2010, 03:13 AM
I've heard Marcelo Rìos commentating here for national tv a few times and surprisingly enough he's quite good. he's strangely calm, makes insightful technical points and doesn't talk too much. easily a lot better than all the other commentating mugs we have around here.

oh, i remember this anecdote:

several years ago pedro carcuro (the most famous football commentator of Chile and pretty much a national celebrity) and hans gildemeister (a former tennis player) were commenting in the ATP Viña del Mar and suddenly, the camera focused on two hot chicks which prompted Carcuro to exclaim to Hans: "How well we would be with those blondes over there! One for you and one for me" to which Hans replies with a serious and dry voice: "They are my daughters". Then a few ackward seconds pass and poor Carcuro just limits to say "They are...uh... Lovely".

That's easily the best moment as far as sports' commentating goes in my country :lol:

chowdahead25
02-05-2010, 03:30 AM
Cliff Drysdale and the McEnroe Brothas.

Dini
02-05-2010, 09:35 AM
Yeah I agree with people who say Cahill. Very analytical and he talks about aspects of the game that you sometimes overlook - very insightful.

For non-slams, I'd definetly say Koenig and Goodall are the best. They feed off each other very well. At times Goodall can sound like a broken record but I appreciate all his hawkeye analysis. Koenig is an excitement machine and creates words to praise shots out of nowhere.:lol:

Vida
02-05-2010, 09:40 AM
cant believe so many people voted Courier.

and where is Navratilova, shes good?

Nidhogg
02-06-2010, 09:29 PM
Very sad, Clerc's QUE LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDOOOOOOOO OOO are terrible :o

This guy?

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I like him just for that shit. :lol:

Mateya
02-06-2010, 10:54 PM
Frew McMillan on Eurosport for me. :)
I just love his sometimes sarcastic comments and everything, he is something special, objective and very nice to listen to.

Courier sounds cool too. :cool:

Nidhogg
02-06-2010, 11:09 PM
I like Frew too. He's knowledgable and has this wry sense of humour. At times he also comes up with odd gems.

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GrosjeantheGreat
02-09-2010, 01:02 AM
Stich.