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AO SF: Murray def. Cilic 3-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-2

whattheheck
01-28-2010, 10:42 AM
Murray stepped it up when it mattered. Good luck in the final!:)

LocoPorElTenis
01-28-2010, 10:43 AM
Congrats to murray on his first GS win :hatoff:
Dreadful match by Cilic but expected after all those long matches.

dr.Damir
01-28-2010, 10:43 AM
Cilic's tiredness decided the match. Third and fourth set weren't real picture.

tealeaves
01-28-2010, 10:43 AM
That shot at the last game is just awesome

CescAndyKimi
01-28-2010, 10:43 AM
Too big Muzza. What happened to the people who said Murray's draw was hard? Now they say it was easy? Make your minds up. Guy worked through his draw, under the radar. Good luck in the final, legend.

n8
01-28-2010, 10:44 AM
How do these threads start before the match even finishes on tv? Delayed telecast?

Well done Murray. Only lost one set the whole tournament so far. Impressive run.

CescAndyKimi
01-28-2010, 10:44 AM
Oh and apparently it's Andy's fault that Cilic struggled to put away Tomic, and spent a billion hours on court going to 5 setters? That's his problem how?

rubbERR
01-28-2010, 10:44 AM
Too big Muzza. What happened to the people who said Murray's draw was hard? Now they say it was easy? Make your minds up. Guy worked through his draw, under the radar. Good luck in the final, legend.

mmmmmmmmm..........mmmmmmmmmm.....:lol:

Lullaby
01-28-2010, 10:44 AM
good match - credit to Marin for his fight to the end

Murray hit some incredible shots at times

miura
01-28-2010, 10:45 AM
I can smell the smoke coming from the keyboards of the English press offices all the way over the North Sea :lol:


Good performance from Murray despite the slow start.

Possibly the best of shot of the tournament, that winner get past the net post! :worship:

tealeaves
01-28-2010, 10:45 AM
Thanks Murray for stopping Cilic getting into a slam final. Tennis WINS.

Roddickominator
01-28-2010, 10:45 AM
Murray can thank Tomic, Del Potro, and Roddick for this victory.

It was also funny how Murray was pretending that his back hurt when he was losing in the first set....then never touched his back again the rest of the match. But he played well and played intelligently, knowing that Cilic would tire.

Should be a good final.

alter ego
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Cilic deserved this for that mugfest against Tomic. Murray did what he had to do.

tkr
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Nice win for Murray. I've got to say though, that I'm impressed with Cilic's play and his class act. Got to like him during this AO. And 1.set today was good, but ran out of gas...

rubbERR
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
can the COME ON master win his win slam now? or is he gonna fail again?

shadows
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Grats to Andy

Shame Cilic's legs kinda gave up on him, too much tennis to get through :(

Action Jackson
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Never in doubt and Murray was too fresh in the end and deserved it.

Excellent tournament for Cilic and fought so hard.

CescAndyKimi
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
mmmmmmmmm..........mmmmmmmmmm.....:lol:

What happened to Del Potro?

LocoPorElTenis
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Fed has no chance against Murray, I hope Tsonga manages to beat Fed to make it for a more interesting final. In any case Murray is 90% certain to win the final, and deservedly so.

Lullaby
01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
That break point in the second set was an incredible point and unleashed the murray roar lol

Momentum change right there

rubbERR
01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
What happened to Del Potro?

he lost because he was crap, simple...dont ask foolish questions :lol:

scoobs
01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
Well done Andy - took a set to figure it out but once he did, and Cilic started to fade...it just became easier at the end.

Respect for Cilic - he is a monster and when he gets through draws just a bit easier he will be a menace at these latter stages, count on it.

It's all experience for him and he's soaking it up and learning quickly.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
Excellent match from Andy. He played a fantastic final 3 sets. He'll get no credit for this win, but he produced some brilliant tennis.

Cilic will be back. Gutsy effort. Was clearly on fumes in the final set.

PamposCypriot
01-28-2010, 10:48 AM
That shot at the last game is just awesome

Also his Steve Urkel "Did i do that?" face after the shot :worship:

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/shg_graphics/funny/SHG_SteveUrkel.gif

tkr
01-28-2010, 10:48 AM
Thanks Murray for stopping Cilic getting into a slam final. Tennis WINS.

WTF??? Murray winning is not the same as tennis winning. Cilic has a quite nice mixed up game, particulary his FH is beautiful to watch!!

How many "c'mons" from Murray today? Getting tired of it...

CescAndyKimi
01-28-2010, 10:48 AM
he lost because he was crap, simple...dont ask foolish questions :lol:

:lol: You think Del Potro is crap? Shows how much you know. Injured player, not that unexpected. So who are you hating on today then? Muzza?

Commander Data
01-28-2010, 10:49 AM
congrats to Murray. too good.

toby345
01-28-2010, 10:49 AM
Fed has no chance against Murray, I hope Tsonga manages to beat Fed to make it for a more interesting final. In any case Murray is 90% certain to win the final, and deservedly so.

Yeah, because Federer is clearly the underdog against Murray in a best of five match. :rolleyes:

thegreendestiny
01-28-2010, 10:49 AM
Super! Awesome defense from the Master Pusher. :worship:

Now take the title.

Lullaby
01-28-2010, 10:50 AM
lol at the murray interview - i didnt realise my mouth was that big

Gave big props to marin and rightly so - sees him as a big threat in the future

green25814
01-28-2010, 10:50 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Respect to Cilic btw, dude was exhausted.

rubbERR
01-28-2010, 10:51 AM
:lol: You think Del Potro is crap? Shows how much you know. Injured player, not that unexpected. So who are you hating on today then? Muzza?

no, this result is good.

Iván
01-28-2010, 10:51 AM
i hate it when people say murray is only a pusher.

he has so much variety in his game, serve volley, good serve and can play amazing shots like the one towards the end of the game.

Sham Kay
01-28-2010, 10:51 AM
can the COME ON master win his win slam now? or is he gonna fail again?

Your match predictions fail. Your posts fail. You fail.

enigma
01-28-2010, 10:51 AM
congrats to Murray.

Turquoise
01-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Cilic had a fantastic run, taking some big scalps along the way. Kudos to him :hatoff:

I'm deliriously happy that Murray's through the final.

UsD.AnDreS
01-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Last year I expected Murray to win AO.This year I hadn't expected Murray to do anything special here and I don't think that I'm the only one and probably that helped him,the fact of "no expectations".Though I don't like him but that guy's playing really well and deserves the final spot.Hope Fed-Murray to be a much more interesting final than it was at US'08.

green25814
01-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Murray - 'I never realised my mouth was so big'

rofl

Voo de Mar
01-28-2010, 10:52 AM
NID, Murray was fresher but Cilic played a good match despite very tough draw in comparison to Murray. Nowadays is very important to be seeded inside Top 8, Cilic is close to be seeded there in Paris, then would avoid 4:30 hrs against Del Potro in the 4th round.

tyruk14
01-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Cilic has imporved upon his results in majors consecutively. Very impressed with the Croatian. There is at least a slam final appearance in his future. At least.

Great shot from Murray in the last game. Between the chair and the net post.

Jade Fox
01-28-2010, 10:53 AM
Well done Murray. The minute he got that break in the second set, the match turned instantly.

And a :hatoff: to Cilic for his run. While I'm a little annoyed his run has to come at the expense of Roddick, he played very well. He's got the goods to win a major one day.

abhinav_shaan
01-28-2010, 10:55 AM
any video link of the gr8 shot in the end??

toby345
01-28-2010, 10:55 AM
Annabel Croft and Mats Wilander kissing Murray's ass right now..:rolleyes:

gulzhan
01-28-2010, 10:56 AM
Well done, Marin :hug:

Now just win this title, Andy!

LocoPorElTenis
01-28-2010, 10:57 AM
Yeah, because Federer is clearly the underdog against Murray in a best of five match. :rolleyes:

In my honest opinion yes, Fed would be the underdog. I realize others will disagree. Murray simply has the tennis to beat Roger and I doubt he will choke like at USO. Besides Fed record in GS finals is not so stellar lately.

Getta
01-28-2010, 10:58 AM
tradie is still working his craft and gets serious about it... the sounds of tools buzzing, pumps humming and metal clanking make a funny noise, won't stop till they get him on the swift swirling river... he's thought to be floating away...

up, up to the bridge! the hammer has been cocked. :D

scoobs
01-28-2010, 10:58 AM
Murray - 'I never realised my mouth was so big'

rofl
Yeah that made me giggle.

Action Jackson
01-28-2010, 10:59 AM
In my honest opinion yes, Fed would be the underdog. I realize others will disagree. Murray simply has the tennis to beat Roger and I doubt he will choke like at USO. Besides Fed record in GS finals is not so stellar lately.

Knee jerk reactions again. If Fed wins then you will be saying Murray is a joke.

daddy
01-28-2010, 11:00 AM
Congrats to Murray, he did what he had to to win against Marin.

ballbasher101
01-28-2010, 11:01 AM
Muzza has come of age :worship:. This is how you win majors, you win your early rounds with ease to conserve your energy. Cilic was never going to win today. Muzza has played the best tennis thus far and deserves to win the whole thing but it is not going to be easy.

Jade Fox
01-28-2010, 11:01 AM
Great shot from Murray in the last game. Between the chair and the net post.

What I like best wasn't actually the shot. It was his reaction. He just looked like, "Oh that? I do that everyday in my sleep." :lol:

Lullaby
01-28-2010, 11:01 AM
Knee jerk reactions again. If Fed wins then you will be saying Murray is a joke.

Yep I would rather him play fed than Tsonga

Less disappointment if he loses (Although still major disappointment) as I have fed as fave in every final he plays

stebs
01-28-2010, 11:02 AM
Big performance in the end from Murray. Cilic was playing out of his skin for a set and a bit and it took grit for Murray to hold serve at the start of the second. After that it only took a few magical shots to change the momentum and from there Cilic began to tire, Murray got better and better and the match was effectively over.

I actually thought the quality of the match was fairly high for most of the match, even when Cilic got tired he never started blasting errors left and right. He was intelligent and strong enough to make Murray actually beat him and whilst the Scot was good enough to do it, it showed maturity for Cilic to put him in that position.

Impressed with both of these guys this tournament, Murray has just been very strong throughout. Cilic, well, beating JMDP and Roddick is hard work and he did fantastically in those matches and he has showed everyone that when he is on form, he is a bit of a monster.

whattheheck
01-28-2010, 11:02 AM
That was old school tennis. Quite amazing and wonderful to watch. Hope he wins now in the final if it's against Roger.

bad gambler
01-28-2010, 11:02 AM
Good effort from Marin but he obviously had nothing left in the tank. Murray did what he had to do and is placed beautifully for Sunday.

Arhaych
01-28-2010, 11:02 AM
Cilic was superb until Murray hit that shot on the run back, it changed the complexion of the whole match.

Murray wasn't at his best today, even in sets 2, 3, and 4 - I thought his intensity and shot selection was better against Nadal. He just ground Cilic down, he'll have to play his very best in the final, especially if it's Federer.

2 days rest, he'll definitely have no complaints about fatigue in this final.

Unlucky Marin, he'll be in GS finals in 12-24 months IMO.

Guy Haines
01-28-2010, 11:03 AM
Thanks for an amazing tournament Marin Cilic. You're a class act and my favorite player on tour now.

philosophicalarf
01-28-2010, 11:03 AM
Worrying signs for Murray - he was pretty useless until the final set, when there was some of the precision he needs at this level (the match was effectively over by then though, so doesn't mean much). First set was beyond atrocious, worst set from him in a couple of years. Both service drops were pure gifts.

Question then: was today the result of pressure, emotional letdown after the huge Nadal win, insuffciently pumping himself up beforehand ...... or has he blown his load in the quarters?

chalkdust
01-28-2010, 11:03 AM
Cilic looks good for a GS within a couple of years. The guy has a great attitude and I wish him well. Wimbledon could be great for him and Bob Brett knows all about grass.

Great for Murray to make a GS final with gas in the tank. Hope it's against Fed, anything else wouldn't be a proper test.

LocoPorElTenis
01-28-2010, 11:07 AM
Knee jerk reactions again. If Fed wins then you will be saying Murray is a joke.

If Fed wins then Murray is indeed a joke for not seizing this huge opportunity. Now if Fed wins playing in Godfed mode the whole match and really not giving Murray any chances then it will be different, of course that can happen but it's not very likely.

Last year Fed played 4 GS finals, he lost 2 in 5 sets (that he was widely expected to win) and won the other two against players he utterly dominates mentally and in terms of play, and one of them he might have as well lost. I realize Murray has failed to deliver at slams up until now but he's reached the final comfortably and has the experience from the USO beating. It's not like Murray is an easy matchup for Federer either.

I will grant you that 90% was an exaggeration, but Murray is the slight favorite. Just IMO.

philosophicalarf
01-28-2010, 11:09 AM
I will grant you that 90% was an exaggeration, but Murray is the slight favorite. Just IMO.

You'll get nice odds on him then. Expect an SP of around 2.30 for Murray, +-0.20 depending on how Fed looks vs J-W.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 11:10 AM
Camoooooooaannnnnnnnnnnn

get in there Muzza

hata's crapping it now.. 1 match away from a GS, enjoying sweating it out for the next 3 days praying for his dowfall :devil:

Clydey
01-28-2010, 11:10 AM
Worrying signs for Murray - he was pretty useless until the final set, when there was some of the precision he needs at this level (the match was effectively over by then though, so doesn't mean much). First set was beyond atrocious, worst set from him in a couple of years. Both service drops were pure gifts.

Question then: was today the result of pressure, emotional letdown after the huge Nadal win, insuffciently pumping himself up beforehand ...... or has he blown his load in the quarters?

I don't think there are any worrying signs. He was excellent in sets 2, 3, and 4. Most of his UES came in the first set and he still ended up with 47 winners to 29 UEs.

Still, Federer will start favourite if he beats Tsonga.

scoobs
01-28-2010, 11:12 AM
Andy's done well, he hasn't won a major yet though, and people who confidently expect him to put on his walking boots and walk all over (probably) Federer, are deluded.

For me, what matters now is that Andy puts in a performance he can be proud of in the final. If (likely) Federer plays his best tennis, his best will beat Andy's best, and if so, so be it. But Andy must fight all the way and play well, do himself justice and take whatever chances may come his way. If he leaves it all out on the court, win or lose, I will be happy. The circumstances in getting to his second major final could hardly have been more favourable - I hope he can take full advantage.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 11:13 AM
http://www.wisegorilla.com/images/UK/ScotlandFlag.gif

Deathless Mortal
01-28-2010, 11:16 AM
Too bad. First set was very good by Cilic, and also the start of the 2nd was good, but once Murray broke, it never looked like Cilic will win it.
Although, too bad for that 1st point at 3-3 in the 3rd set where Marin hit an ace but it was called out and in the end he didn't challenge the call. After that he lost that game, and later the set. And awful in the 4th set losing 2 service games after having 40-15
But anyway, awesome tournament for Marin, SF is a great result.

green25814
01-28-2010, 11:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMCNltgrs1U

angry1
01-28-2010, 11:17 AM
I don't think there are any worrying signs. He was excellent in sets 2, 3, and 4. Most of his UES came in the first set and he still ended up with 47 winners to 29 UEs.


I think he still looks uncomfortable as favourite in a big GS match.The 1st set was awful and becoming underdog(at least on the scoreboard) seemed to loosen him up.

The trouble is underdogs normally lose so to win a slam you really could do with being more at home as favourite.

Winning this tournament should cure all that if it happens,whoever he beats.

Langers
01-28-2010, 11:18 AM
Cilic is a gun.

Murray so passive in the 1st. :o He'll get smashed by Federer. :(

chalkdust
01-28-2010, 11:19 AM
For me, what matters now is that Andy puts in a performance he can be proud of in the final. If (likely) Federer plays his best tennis, his best will beat Andy's best, and if so, so be it. But Andy must fight all the way and play well, do himself justice and take whatever chances may come his way. If he leaves it all out on the court, win or lose, I will be happy.
Agreed. He needs to show us his balls out there (not literally). If the Goat shows up, so be it.

oranges
01-28-2010, 11:22 AM
:sobbing: I really didn't know what to expect from this match, but my hopes went high after the first set. He seemed utterly unimpressed by the occasion, focused and as fresh as could be expected. I thought he lacked aggression from 2nd set onwards, which is always a losing proposition.

Bili
01-28-2010, 11:24 AM
can the COME ON master win his win slam now? or is he gonna fail again?

Rusty Hewitt is done:spit:

rjmartin
01-28-2010, 11:25 AM
Two of the best shots (from Murray) that I have seen in a long time.

-Valhalla-
01-28-2010, 11:26 AM
Nice win for Murray and he'll end 73 years of British futility on Sunday.

Rule Britannia.

alter ego
01-28-2010, 11:27 AM
Murray is now assured to be number 3 in the rankings can go to number 2 if he wins Sunday's final. Nadull is the new number 4.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 11:27 AM
dedicated to tangerine_dream and Rafa = Fed Killa


http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/61/fullj.4ed4b9292cde12af5de0bea4034a0ee1/4ed4b9292cde12af5de0bea4034a0ee1-getty-96007622mb339_2010_australi.jpg

Vida
01-28-2010, 11:32 AM
:lol: no not the mouth again...

green25814
01-28-2010, 11:34 AM
He does have a pretty big mouth.

Goldenoldie
01-28-2010, 11:35 AM
I was worried for a set and a bit, not because Murray was behind, but because he had clearly reverted to Plan A and it wasn't working.

Once he hit what the commentators called "the turning point" it was all Plan B to win the second set, and then a sensible mixture of both to get the win.

Yes, Cilic ran out of gas as expected, and this was a factor, but Murray's excellent play was a bigger one.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 11:35 AM
love those little c'mons with the looks at his opponent.. just making sure they hear it ;)

Nidhogg
01-28-2010, 11:39 AM
It didn't take all too long for Marrah to dissect Cilic. Marin has had an awesome tournament anyway.

2lhuuQjiqgc

Good shot at the end there.

McAlistar
01-28-2010, 11:39 AM
Im delighted Murray got through but his first serve was very poor today, he took alot of pace off and still made very few first serves. He abseloutely has to serve better against Federer.

Vida
01-28-2010, 11:40 AM
really this was to be expected. read: easy draw for murray.

real test yet to come.:help:

Clydey
01-28-2010, 11:43 AM
really this was to be expected. read: easy draw for murray.

real test yet to come.:help:

Djokovic had a much easier draw.

mickymouse
01-28-2010, 11:45 AM
Considering how fatigued he must have been, Cilic actually put up a much better fight than I expected.

chalkdust
01-28-2010, 11:56 AM
An interview with:

MARIN CILIC

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Your first Grand Slam semifinal didn't turn out like you would want, but what were your thoughts on the game generally?

MARIN CILIC: Well, I mean, in the end I'm, of course, a little bit sad because of the final result. But overall I played beginning of the match very good, and with that part I was really pleased.

I think I played some great points. I was standing on the court really good. I was playing some unbelievable points there. I think later when he got back into the game in the second set when he broke me, I think he got a little bit of the momentum going and wasn't easy after to get back into it.

I would say my first‑serve percentage was low, and I had to play a lot of rallies, which I didn't turn out playing as well as in the beginning where I was a little more fresher and a little closer to the ball. I was pushing him a little more and putting more pressure. Instead, he was doing that on me. It wasn't easy to get out of those kind of situations.

RIboy
01-28-2010, 11:59 AM
Well done Muzza, well done Cilic :worship:

Now please beat that swiss c*** and win the title :armed:

Nolby
01-28-2010, 11:59 AM
any video link of the gr8 shot in the end??

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malisha
01-28-2010, 12:00 PM
congrats Andrew

do bot bend over in Sunday

great tournament for Marin...keep learing and improving

dusan1610
01-28-2010, 12:01 PM
Good tournament for Cilic...

Sophocles
01-28-2010, 12:06 PM
Was impressed by Cilic. Expected him to be thrashed, but he came out all guns blazing playing some superb attacking tennis. Beautifully fluid ball-striking. He was too tired to keep it up, but he showed great composure & fight even though he must have known he had no chance of winning. As for Murray, some spectacular points and he got the job done, but he was looking seriously rattled until he broke in the 2nd set and he really needs to learn how to handle being the favourite on the big stage. With luck this win will help him do that.

Andi-M
01-28-2010, 12:07 PM
Congrats to both men, Marin came of age this week and Murray will hopefully take it one step futher on Sunday. Great result. Tennis wins :D

Vida
01-28-2010, 12:08 PM
Djokovic had a much easier draw.

doesn't matter, djokovic is not in the tournament anymore :rolleyes:

a different animal waits murray in the finals (doubt its tsonga).

against federer, Id give murray 40 per cent chance. he is in a good form.

Doomach777
01-28-2010, 12:08 PM
:( I was watching whole match, who fuck school ?
too bad Marin lost :( :cry:

now, Roger, WIN THIS!

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 12:08 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47199000/jpg/_47199213_sfans_getty_766.jpg

Spirit_fire
01-28-2010, 12:10 PM
Marin :sad:

But congrats to Murray on his 2nd GS final- he has a really good chance. I'll probably be rooting for whoever plays him but I hope he maintains this level for the final and we can see a great match.

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 12:12 PM
This event is certainly fixed. The Prince came to visit Federer to tell him that he ain't going to have it unless Murray wins the final. I am sure Federer can get a knighthood or something for throwing that match, but let's face it. Murray can't win a slam without others pulling strings for him. Rafa had to retire. Isner was just so tough, and of course Cilic was just unbeatable, right? Murray won't be anything other than a one slam wonder even if he wins this.

Vida
01-28-2010, 12:12 PM
waiting for mellow yellow (or mcchopin, always mix those two, sorry) to come here complaining about nationalistic scot-tards.:)

FiBeR
01-28-2010, 12:12 PM
Too big Muzza. What happened to the people who said Murray's draw was hard? Now they say it was easy? Make your minds up. Guy worked through his draw, under the radar. Good luck in the final, legend.

in papers it was.. but first 3 rounds were a joke.. isner? :spit:.. injured nadal and tired cilic .. :rolls: not that he doesnt deserve it but.. you got to be kidding me if this is a hard draw..

congrats murray! finally living up to the expectations..now dont choke it like you did against robredo in hopman cup or you will be crucified

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 12:16 PM
in papers it was.. but first 3 rounds were a joke.. isner? :spit:.. injured nadal and tired cilic .. :rolls: not that he doesnt deserve it but.. you got to be kidding me if this is a hard draw..

congrats murray! finally living up to the expectations..now dont choke it like you did against robredo in hopman cup or you will be crucified:lol: injured Nadal

Cilic today would have still beaten most of the field in 3 sets

Nolby
01-28-2010, 12:17 PM
waiting for mellow yellow (or mcchopin, always mix those two, sorry) to come here complaining about nationalistic scot-tards.:)


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Bagpipe version.

green25814
01-28-2010, 12:17 PM
I don't care what people say, Murray beat Nadal. Rafa was playing 100% the first two sets, and as far as I'm concerned the injury meant nothing.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 12:19 PM
TheBoiledEgg will be loving this tournament

Andi-M
01-28-2010, 12:19 PM
in papers it was.. but first 3 rounds were a joke.. isner? :spit:.. injured nadal and tired cilic .. :rolls: not that he doesnt deserve it but.. you got to be kidding me if this is a hard draw..

congrats murray! finally living up to the expectations..now dont choke it like you did against robredo in hopman cup or you will be crucified

Cilic had toughest draw of all semifinalists, the rest were pretty even with Murray's maybe slightly easier then Fed's or Tsonga's, but he beat the defending champion so it has been far from a 'joke'. Murray has completely earned his spot in the final haters need to get over it.

Betty
01-28-2010, 12:19 PM
:banana:well done :bananA:

coonster14
01-28-2010, 12:22 PM
firstly, congrats to both guys on a good match.

cilic should be proud of himself for the way he has performed in this Aus Open, the way he beat delpo and roddick in back to back 5 setters is just amazing, i like the way he holds his emotions in check, he does not give anything away, there is a lot to like about this young guy, a good competitor, surely we will be seeing more of him in the future, his ranking moves up from 14th to 10th following his performance. :clap2:

murray has been playing well, he outplayed rafa fair and square, and now he is in the final, well done, good luck against fed or tsonga.

murray looked out of sorts in the 1st set, but that point off the net cord in the 2nd set which he ended up hitting that forehand really woke him up, that was the turning point of the whole match, and of course, that forehand around the net post up 5-2, 15-15 in the 4th set, that was incredible, i thought he wasn't going to be able to reach it. nice play muzza.

FiBeR
01-28-2010, 12:26 PM
Cilic had toughest draw of all semifinalists, the rest were pretty even with Murray's maybe slightly easier then Fed's or Tsonga's, but he beat the defending champion so it has been far from a 'joke'. Murray has completely earned his spot in the final haters need to get over it.

:lol: you are overracting ..i dont hate murray, and you are making no sense sin ce you just agreed with my post

he got the easiest draw of the semifinalists, that is all i am saying and even got the easiest SFist to play against (tired cilic)

and well.. beating nadal on hardcourt is not like impossible or like something impossible to do..even if he were fit. Last year nadal beat verdasco in SF and his pidgeon to win the title, so the "defending champion" compensation you name is :bs:

still as i said he deserves the spot in the final..cos he won the matches he had to.. no matter how easy his draw was compared to the others

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 12:28 PM
Well. Roger hasn't played his best so far. So Murray can technically beat him. Davydenko proved for a set that Roger can be made to look quite average. He is not Cilic though, and if he does reach the final, I expect a 5 setter. Hoping Roger won't collapse like last year.

Vida
01-28-2010, 12:29 PM
I always said Cilic has a smart head on his shoulders. His time will come no question about it.

tennizen
01-28-2010, 12:30 PM
So happy for Murray. But I am terrified he will wilt away in the final. I hope he really really really wants to win here.

Great tournament for Cilic:worship:. I think it was too much to expect him to beat Murray. QF in USO and SF at AO. I think he really needs to get his ranking up before Wimbledon/USO if possible.

Voo de Mar
01-28-2010, 12:31 PM
Was impressed by Cilic. Expected him to be thrashed, but he came out all guns blazing playing some superb attacking tennis.

Yes, Cilic surprised me at this year's Australian Open - he has improved his volley! I think he's a workaholic and it's a good sign for his fans. During this tournament he gained a lot of experience and self-confidence. Last year it looked impossible he would win a Masters Series tournament or reach a GS final, now it's possible. Obviously he isn't still a material for a Grand Slam champion but if he'll improving, maybe someday... Evidently he's a player who builds his career slowly, step by step. The question is: what would he improve to be a better player? I think he has improve his 1st serve. In a match like today's when he felt that legs aren't fast enough, should have increased the speed of 1st serve (Del Potro for example thanks to better 1st serve hung in matches against Blake and Cilic). If Cilic had better 1st serve there would have still been a margin to beat Murray 6-3 4-6 4-6 7-6 6-2.

scoobs
01-28-2010, 12:34 PM
Yes, Cilic surprised me at this year's Australian Open - he has improved his volley! I think he's a workaholic and it's a good sign for his fans. During this tournament he gained a lot of experience and self-confidence. Last year it looked impossible he would win a Masters Series tournament or reach a GS final, now it's possible. Obviously he isn't still a material for a Grand Slam champion but if he'll improving, maybe someday... Evidently he's a player who builds his career slowly, step by step. The question is: what would he improve to be a better player? I think he has improve his 1st serve. In a match like today's when he felt that legs aren't fast enough, should have increased the speed of 1st serve (Del Potro for example thanks to better 1st serve hung in matches against Blake and Cilic). If Cilic had better 1st serve there would have still been a margin to beat Murray 6-3 4-6 4-6 7-6 6-2.
He has to make his backhand more of an effective weapon, it's too hard to just try to beat a Murray with just your serve or forehand.

As Frew McMillian astutely put it - "Cilic needs to improve his backhand. It's not a weakness by any means, but it needs to be more of a strength than it is."

green25814
01-28-2010, 12:34 PM
Yes, Cilic surprised me at this year's Australian Open - he has improved his volley! I think he's a workaholic and it's a good sign for his fans. During this tournament he gained a lot of experience and self-confidence. Last year it looked impossible he would win a Masters Series tournament or reach a GS final, now it's possible. Obviously he isn't still a material for a Grand Slam champion but if he'll improving, maybe someday... Evidently he's a player who builds his career slowly, step by step. The question is: what would he improve to be a better player? I think he has improve his 1st serve. In a match like today's when he felt that legs aren't fast enough, should have increased the speed of 1st serve (Del Potro for example thanks to better 1st serve hung in matches against Blake and Cilic). If Cilic had better 1st serve there was still a margin to beat Murray 6-3 4-6 4-6 7-6 6-2.

Reports say that Cilic is indeed a workaholic, I remember an interview with his coach who said Marin's dedication was insane. The guy is a certified slam winner, he's just going to get better and better.

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 12:35 PM
It's a sad day in tennis if Murray wins a slam. The guy is utterly arrogant and has no class. But oh well. I guess if Gaudio can win a slam so can Murray

SaFed2005
01-28-2010, 12:37 PM
Too big Muzza. What happened to the people who said Murray's draw was hard? Now they say it was easy? Make your minds up. Guy worked through his draw, under the radar. Good luck in the final, legend.

Wait a minute, there were people who actually thought Murray's draw was hard? :haha:

Anyways, looks like Murray is finally going to c'mon his way to his first slam victory. He is simply the greatest player ever.

Vida
01-28-2010, 12:39 PM
It's a sad day in tennis if Murray wins a slam. The guy is utterly arrogant and has no class. But oh well. I guess if Gaudio can win a slam so can Murray

really? not my impression at all. he seems downright professional to me. (maybe except one or two off's which is no big deal).

in truth, if you're to hate murray, better do it cause he is, well, ugly.:eek:

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 12:42 PM
really? not my impression at all. he seems downright professional to me. (maybe except one or two off's which is no big deal).

in truth, if you're to hate murray, better do it cause he is, well, ugly.:eek:

I don't make judgments on people based on how they look. I don't watch tennis for people's looks. But Murray just turns me off. I can take Rafa and Nole. I guess the fact thae Eurosport calls him a magician, jesus, and god sort of turns me off too.

Voo de Mar
01-28-2010, 12:44 PM
He has to make his backhand more of an effective weapon, it's too hard to just try to beat a Murray with just your serve or forehand.

As Frew McMillian astutely put it - "Cilic needs to improve his backhand. It's not a weakness by any means, but it needs to be more of a strength than it is."

He has already improved his backhand. 12 months ago he couldn't play an effective slice and was losing a lot of points playing backhand under his knees or above the shoulders (the same problem had Del Potro who is still a step ahead of Cilic). I don't know what McMillian exactly meant, maybe that his backhand should be more consistent like in Djokovic or Murray's cases.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 12:44 PM
hata's getting over the pain, now time to vent :D

scoobs
01-28-2010, 12:45 PM
He has already improved his backhand. 12 months ago he couldn't play an effective slice and was losing a lot of points playing backhand under his knees or above the shoulders (the same problem had Del Potro who is still a step ahead of Cilic). I don't know what McMillian exactly meant, maybe that his backhand should be more consistent like in Djokovic or Murray's cases.
More that he doesn't hit many winners off it at this point - the backhand is mostly a shot to keep him in rallies to set up for a forehand somewhere. He could do with being able to finish points with the backhand a little easier.

Guga_fan
01-28-2010, 12:46 PM
Couldn't watch the match, way to tired. Congrats for Murray and good run by Cilic.

ArgieFan
01-28-2010, 12:49 PM
can the COME ON master win his win slam now? or is he gonna fail again?

I hope he fails. Rogie will take care of him...

Voo de Mar
01-28-2010, 12:50 PM
More that he doesn't hit many winners off it at this point - the backhand is mostly a shot to keep him in rallies to set up for a forehand somewhere. He could do with being able to finish points with the backhand a little easier.

He's on a good way, during last 12 months reduced the number of errors from his left side, now has time to transform this shot into a bigger weapon.

Vida
01-28-2010, 12:51 PM
I don't make judgments on people based on how they look. I don't watch tennis for people's looks. But Murray just turns me off. I can take Rafa and Nole. I guess the fact thae Eurosport calls him a magician, jesus, and god sort of turns me off too.

well than I doubt you watch tennis for how they act as well? I mean if it does not matter how he looks, why should it matter what he talks to the press or what he speaks with an umpire?

the media thing I understand, though I cant see what it has to do with arrogance and lack of class. one of the things I like about murray the most is exactly how he handles that part.

Arkulari
01-28-2010, 12:52 PM
Congrats to Muzza, he has a good shot at the title :yeah:

and kudos to Cilic for the gutsy run, this guy is another one to watch :D

scoobs
01-28-2010, 12:53 PM
He's on a good way, during last 12 months reduced the number of errors from his left side, now has time to transform this shot into a bigger weapon.
Definitely - it will get bigger and then look out.

Nidhogg
01-28-2010, 12:53 PM
Just like Murray, Cilic has much better technique off his backhand compared to the forehand. He does indeed not hit too many winners with it, but he can construct points from that wing quite nicely, using angles.

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 12:56 PM
well than I doubt you watch tennis for how they act as well? I mean if it does not matter how he looks, why should it matter what he talks to the press or what he speaks with an umpire?

the media thing I understand, though I cant see what it has to do with arrogance and lack of class. one of the things I like about murray the most is exactly how he handles that part.

Listen. The guy lost his girlfriend because all he does is play games. he does come a tad bit arrogant when he talks about how he dominates other top players. I just don't think Murray has the game to win a slam but his draw was overrated. Rafa is not the player he used to be, and Cilic was too tired. Del Potro was slightly injured. But credit to Murray. He has worked his way to the final, and there is no reason he can't win 3 more sets. I hope it's against Roger though. It'd be really sad if Tsonga somehow reached the final and got blitzed.

green25814
01-28-2010, 12:57 PM
Listen. The guy lost his girlfriend because all he does is play games. he does come a tad bit arrogant when he talks about how he dominates other top players. I just don't think Murray has the game to win a slam but his draw was overrated. Rafa is not the player he used to be, and Cilic was too tired. Del Potro was slightly injured. But credit to Murray. He has worked his way to the final, and there is no reason he can't win 3 more sets. I hope it's against Roger though. It'd be really sad if Tsonga somehow reached the final and got blitzed.

When does he do that?

Clydey
01-28-2010, 01:01 PM
Listen. The guy lost his girlfriend because all he does is play games. he does come a tad bit arrogant when he talks about how he dominates other top players. I just don't think Murray has the game to win a slam but his draw was overrated. Rafa is not the player he used to be, and Cilic was too tired. Del Potro was slightly injured. But credit to Murray. He has worked his way to the final, and there is no reason he can't win 3 more sets. I hope it's against Roger though. It'd be really sad if Tsonga somehow reached the final and got blitzed.

You believe everything you read? Murray said himself that it had nothing to do with videogames and that he plays them no more than any other normal bloke. It was just tabloid nonsense, which you are all too eager to believe.

And when has Murray ever talked about how he dominates other top players? Provide one example.

You seem to be just inventing shit in order to rationalise your feelings towards Murray. I'd much rather you just said: "His face annoys me".

philosophicalarf
01-28-2010, 01:06 PM
You believe everything you read? Murray said himself that it had nothing to do with videogames and that he plays them no more than any other normal bloke. It was just tabloid nonsense, which you are all too eager to believe.


British tabloids invent stuff? My world is shattered!

Lopez
01-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Never thought I'd say this but I've warmed up for Murray slightly during this tournament. Showing some nice point contruction skills, though he's always shown that, only this time with less cmon's :lol:. Just stay away from the pushing crap, please.

Rooted for Roddick in Wimbledon 2009 against Murray even though Roddick is hardly my favorite. Maybe I'll root Andy next time around.

In this final though I'll deffo root for his opponent. I like both Tsonga and Fed.

Vida
01-28-2010, 01:16 PM
and why did his girlfriend dump him in the end?

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 01:22 PM
You believe everything you read? Murray said himself that it had nothing to do with videogames and that he plays them no more than any other normal bloke. It was just tabloid nonsense, which you are all too eager to believe.

And when has Murray ever talked about how he dominates other top players? Provide one example.

You seem to be just inventing shit in order to rationalise your feelings towards Murray. I'd much rather you just said: "His face annoys me".

I remember him saying once that he rather face Federer instead of some other guy because he had a good record against him. This is like a year ago when they were like 2-1 or something. I don't hate Murray per se. He just turns me off. Hate is a strong word. I don't hope he loses. I just hope he doesn't win a slam as that would make this era a complete joke.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 01:22 PM
and why did his girlfriend dump him in the end?

As far as anyone knows, it was mutual. No one really knows the details.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 01:23 PM
I remember him saying once that he rather face Federer instead of some other guy because he had a good record against him. This is like a year ago when they were like 2-1 or something. I don't hate Murray per se. He just turns me off. Hate is a strong word. I don't hope he loses. I just hope he doesn't win a slam as that would make this era a complete joke.

I don't remember him saying that. And even if he did, how is that being arrogant about dominating top players? It would be common sense to want to face the player you have a good record over.

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 01:26 PM
I don't remember him saying that. And even if he did, how is that being arrogant about dominating top players? It would be common sense to want to face the player you have a good record over.

Listen. You are clearly a fan of his. I am not trying to piss you off or anything. Let the best man win on Sunday. Of course, since Murray has had the best draw possible, he might get lucky and have both Federer and Tsonga pull out due to injury. Who knows.

momo_momo
01-28-2010, 01:30 PM
Congrats, Muzza. Now Fed, beat Tsonga already. This time I think the sole reason I am rooting for Murray is because Fed has too many slams in his belt.

But I would rather see him retire slamless, or just slamless this year.
I hate AO 2010.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 01:31 PM
Listen. You are clearly a fan of his. I am not trying to piss you off or anything. Let the best man win on Sunday. Of course, since Murray has had the best draw possible, he might get lucky and have both Federer and Tsonga pull out due to injury. Who knows.

Now I know you're trolling.

malisha
01-28-2010, 01:31 PM
Murray can switch attacking mode on and off when he needs to...i thought it cant be done just like that but he showed against Nadal that he can do it

today he was counterpunching more but that was the good tactic against Marin at this stage

Andrew needs a mix of both his games on Sunday

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 01:33 PM
Now I know you're trolling.

No. I am not trolling. You are just too much of a fan to have a discussion with. You claim Murray is this and that without even following his career close enough to hear what he has said. Oh well. Who cares. He has reached the final and deserves to be there. I am sure Federer was told by the Prince that AO this year is not meant to be. So I expect a choke job.

malisha
01-28-2010, 01:35 PM
i really think there will be no choke on Sunday

better player will win it

Lopez
01-28-2010, 01:38 PM
cyrusking = brithater?

rofe
01-28-2010, 01:40 PM
Congrats on your first GS title son. :yeah:

About time you got it.

Commander Data
01-28-2010, 01:40 PM
If its Murray-Fed it is a coin toss. I don't expect any chokes either.

tennishero
01-28-2010, 01:43 PM
As far as anyone knows, it was mutual. No one really knows the details.

i heard it was video games.

expected result, cilic couldnt rise to the occasion and keep his level up. murray might be playing well but he's hardly been tested this whole tournament and has a had a walkthrough straight to the finals.

lets compare his run to JMDP's last year:

JMDP opponents -
R1 Monaco
R2 Melzer
R3 Koellerer
R4 Ferrero
QF Cilic
SF Nadal
F Federer

Murray opponents -
R1 Anderson
R2 Gicquel
R3 Serra
R4 Isner
QF Nadal (Retire)
SF Cilic
F Federer

On paper delpo's draw was obviously much tougher, if we take the rankings of all the opponents on each draw and then average them -

Murray's opponents have an average ranking of: 45 (taking into account Fed reaches the final),
whilst delpo has an average of:26!

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 01:43 PM
Well. if it's Roger vs. Andy, I hope it will finish in 4 sets :) Roger has collapsed in the 5th in 2 of the last 4 slams. Not suggesting it will happen again. BTW, if Andy wins, he'll probably be No. 1 with a good run on clay. Too bad Rafa and Roger could meet in the semis.

Vida
01-28-2010, 01:46 PM
I doubt murray will fold in the finals. more likely the old geezer fed will 'drift away' like he did in USO... but than again murray would need to play the type of offense delpo did back than for it to materialize....but that wont happen since he cant play like that. than again, fed needs to be more offensive against murray than against the likes of delpo, which in turn it makes him more likely to be on and off....

...shit, Im confused already. I was never good at predictions anyway.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 01:47 PM
i heard it was video games.

expected result, cilic couldnt rise to the occasion and keep his level up. murray might be playing well but he's hardly been tested this whole tournament and has a had a walkthrough straight to the finals.

lets compare his run to JMDP's last year:

JMDP opponents -
R1 Monaco
R2 Melzer
R3 Koellerer
R4 Ferrero
QF Cilic
SF Nadal
F Federer

Murray opponents -
R1 Anderson
R2 Gicquel
R3 Serra
R4 Isner
QF Nadal (Retire)
SF Cilic
F Federer

Delpo's draw was obviously much tougher, if we take the rankings of all the opponents on each draw and then average them, then Murray's opponents have an average ranking of:
45 (taking into account Fed reaches the final),
whilst delpo has an average of:
26!

Very sneaky. You used Federer, who is ranked Number 1. He's going to drag the average way down.

I also like how you put "retired" next to Nadal's name, as though it made a blind bit of difference. It's fair to say the Nadal that Murray beat was twice the player Del Potro came up against in the USO semis last year.

tennizen
01-28-2010, 01:48 PM
I doubt murray will fold in the finals. more likely the old geezer fed will 'drift away' like he did in USO... but than again murray would need to play the type of offense delpo did back than for it to materialize....but that wont happen since he cant play like that. than again, fed needs to be more offensive against murray than against the likes of delpo, which in turn it makes him more likely to be on and off....

...shit, Im confused already. I was never good at predictions anyway.

:lol:

Corey Feldman
01-28-2010, 01:49 PM
some croat running on the court at murray-Cilic handshake


lets compare his run to JMDP's last year:

JMDP opponents -
R1 Monaco
R2 Melzer
R3 Koellerer
R4 Ferrero
QF Cilic
SF Nadal
F Federer

Murray opponents -
R1 Anderson
R2 Gicquel
R3 Serra
R4 Isner
QF Nadal (Retire)
SF Cilic
F Federer

On paper delpo's draw was obviously much tougher, if we take the rankings of all the opponents on each draw and then average them -

Murray's opponents have an average ranking of: 45 (taking into account Fed reaches the final),
whilst delpo has an average of:26!

Isner > Ferrero
Gicquel > Melzer
Nadal playing better here > than he did in US Open

hope that helps

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 01:49 PM
Well. We all know who ESPN will be rooting for. They'll probably show the replay of Williams doubles match with Mattek Sands and whoever instead of the men's final.

jcempire
01-28-2010, 01:53 PM
Andy Is going to win the AO Which I said before AO starts

chalkdust
01-28-2010, 01:54 PM
BTW, if Andy wins, he'll probably be No. 1 with a good run on clay. Too bad Rafa and Roger could meet in the semis.
Or the quarters. Rafa is very likely going to be Number 5 by the time RG comes around.

tennishero
01-28-2010, 01:54 PM
some croat running on the court at murray-Cilic handshake



Isner > Ferrero
Gicquel > Melzer
Nadal playing better here > than he did in US Open

hope that helps

no,
no way
maybe

hope that helps

tennizen
01-28-2010, 01:55 PM
no,
no way
maybe

hope that helps

The great Melzer who lost to Florent Serra at AO.

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 01:57 PM
The great Melzer who lost to Florent Serra at AO.

Who cares how Andy has gotten to the final? He may have beaten some easy guys. In the end, he needs to win 3 more set. That's all..

scoobs
01-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Can't believe people are arguing over the quality of the draw like, if you have an average higher ranked draw than someone else and you win, it makes your slam "better" somehow. You play seven matches, you beat who is in front of you, it's the luck of the draw and results that are entirely out of your hands. I really don't see what the point is.

And MURRAY HASN'T WON ANYTHING YET.

McAlistar
01-28-2010, 01:59 PM
i heard it was video games.

expected result, cilic couldnt rise to the occasion and keep his level up. murray might be playing well but he's hardly been tested this whole tournament and has a had a walkthrough straight to the finals.

lets compare his run to JMDP's last year:

JMDP opponents -
R1 Monaco
R2 Melzer
R3 Koellerer
R4 Ferrero
QF Cilic
SF Nadal
F Federer

Murray opponents -
R1 Anderson
R2 Gicquel
R3 Serra
R4 Isner
QF Nadal (Retire)
SF Cilic
F Federer

On paper delpo's draw was obviously much tougher, if we take the rankings of all the opponents on each draw and then average them -

Murray's opponents have an average ranking of: 45 (taking into account Fed reaches the final),
whilst delpo has an average of:26!

Why did you even bother typing this? i notice after every match you come on hear and slate Murray and big up Del Potro. Nobodies doubting Del Potro is a very good player but are you saying Murray couldnt have beat those players? He has a winning H2H against the lot except Nadal who was playing one his first tournaments back since the French Open and was awful. Nice run this tournament for Juan in this tournament by the way:o

tennishero
01-28-2010, 02:00 PM
The great Melzer who lost to Florent Serra at AO.

Melzer was on his best form last summer around USO.

malisha
01-28-2010, 02:03 PM
Delpos draw wasnt much harder than Murrays now

but Jurgen eats mugs like Gicquel and spits them out(when he plays tennis not baseball)

tennishero
01-28-2010, 02:03 PM
Why did you even bother typing this? i notice after every match you come on hear and slate Murray and big up Del Potro. Nobodies doubting Del Potro is a very good player but are you saying Murray couldnt have beat those players? He has a winning H2H against the lot except Nadal who was playing one his first tournaments back since the French Open and was awful. Nice run this tournament for Juan in this tournament by the way:o

i posted this for my own knowledge, its intersting to see the average and who had a tougher draw, also because of their rivalry.

oranges
01-28-2010, 02:06 PM
:lol: @ tennishero making this about JMDP. I thought rubbERR was the only tool among his fanbase

guga2120
01-28-2010, 02:07 PM
Andy, finally back where he belongs in a gs final. Now this time hopefully, he is not all defense and takes it to Roger, and beats him.

chowdahead25
01-28-2010, 02:07 PM
can the COME ON master win his win slam now? or is he gonna fail again?

The latter.

McAlistar
01-28-2010, 02:09 PM
i posted this for my own knowledge, its intersting to see the average and who had a tougher draw, also because of their rivalry.

A rivalry that Murray is resoundingly winning:worship:

tennizen
01-28-2010, 02:09 PM
Melzer was on his best form last summer around USO.

So was Serra at AO.

Geo
01-28-2010, 02:12 PM
ugh :( unfortunate result. Cilic had a great run to the semis, but in the end he has only himself to blame for the long matches he played against Tomic and Roddick. He'll be back at this stage in other slams for sure.

unforunately I think Murray is going to win this title. :o This is just one of those tournaments when everything is working in his favor-best draw possible, injured Nadal, tired Cilic, best possible match scheduling and he's in good form. Unless he's nervous again in the final or Federer/Tsonga plays really well, I can't see how Murray can lose :o

kindling
01-28-2010, 02:13 PM
Terrible news, this Murray winning. Public interest in tennis will wane more if Murray's ranking climbs. Awful personality for the sport.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 02:15 PM
So was Serra at AO.

Serra was playing top 5 tennis. What a beast.

TMJordan
01-28-2010, 02:15 PM
You couldn't have done this at the USO?


Prick.

rocketassist
01-28-2010, 02:18 PM
really this was to be expected. read: easy draw for murray.

real test yet to come.:help:

Del Potro's USO win draw: Cilic, Nadull, Federer.
Murray's AO final draw: Nadull, Cilic, Federer (prob)

Easy :haha:

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 02:26 PM
I am actually in peace with Murray winning his first slam. The sooner he wins, the sooner his one slam wonder career will be over.

rubbERR
01-28-2010, 02:32 PM
where is tommy robredo when we need him? he is only guy who can stop this master.

LleytonMonfils
01-28-2010, 02:38 PM
Losers care about the draw. You win 7 matches you take home the hardware. I don't care if you played a bunch of John McEnroe's or a bunch of Patrick McEnroe's. You beat who is put in front of you. Anyone who tries to take away from someone's deep run in a Grand Slam with a bunch of draw talk is nothing more than a jealous chump who is bitter their favorite doesn't have a shot.

If Jo Willy doesn't do it, I hope Murray does. He has the talent and has put in the work. Good for him if he can pull it off.

rocketassist
01-28-2010, 02:45 PM
Federer has no business spoiling things this time. I've never had a problem with Roger, but time for him to fuck off.

R.Federer
01-28-2010, 02:51 PM
GOod job by Andy. How tough for Marin. Tsonga has similarly suffered some long matches, but has an extra day off.
Looking forward to any kind of final!

SheepleBuster
01-28-2010, 02:51 PM
Federer has no business spoiling things this time. I've never had a problem with Roger, but time for him to fuck off.

haha. this is a joke right? If Murray chokes, it's Roger's fault?

paseo
01-28-2010, 02:56 PM
Murray's game is really good, now. I don't know what he's done in the off-season, but he's so much better than last year. Like I already said, only an in-form Fed can stop him.
I really do hope Fed makes it to the final, and bring his A-game. Cause I really, really want too see how the GOAT deals with Murray's game. If Federror decided to show up in the final, then it will be a quite embarrassing scoreline for Fed.

Come on, Fed! Beat Tsonga and bring your best game against Murray. Show me a fantastic tennis match! A Tennis Match of The Ages!!! Bring it on!!!!!:fiery::fiery::fiery:

Fisico
01-28-2010, 03:00 PM
That brilliant get from Murray halfway through the second was the turning point... In that way it reminded me a bit of the Gasquet match at wimbledon.
Murray definitely upped his game from then on and Cilic faded. Hoping for Tsonga to join him in the final.

Federer=God
01-28-2010, 03:03 PM
Fed for 16. Murray will choke in final probably. If he plays well it might be close. Fed hasn't really got out of third gear yet, hopefully he will ramp it up.

tennishero
01-28-2010, 03:03 PM
A rivalry that Murray is resoundingly winning:worship:

actually so far he lost, delpo beat him to a slam.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 03:10 PM
actually so far he lost, delpo beat him to a slam.

So did Thomas Johansson.

There is more to tennis than slams.

bizzle
01-28-2010, 03:20 PM
Well played Andy :) Good luck in the final (please don't choke :sobbing:)

LaFuria
01-28-2010, 03:30 PM
So did Thomas Johansson.

There is more to tennis than slams.

There is more to tennis than slams, but if you don't win a slam you are nothing. Everything else is secondary.

Anyway I don't know what this has to do with Del Potro, anyone who thought JMDP was going to have a good Australian Open doesn't know much about his history.

Jade Fox
01-28-2010, 03:35 PM
dedicated to tangerine_dream and Rafa = Fed Killa


http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/61/fullj.4ed4b9292cde12af5de0bea4034a0ee1/4ed4b9292cde12af5de0bea4034a0ee1-getty-96007622mb339_2010_australi.jpg

The sad part is, I would still tap that even with that enormous mouth.

*Hangs head in shame*

It's also hilarious how many online newspapers are using this picture in thier stories. :lol:

Iluzionista
01-28-2010, 03:57 PM
I don't like Murray and I probably never will. Trust me, I've tried so hard, but I just can't. However, he's played pretty good at this tournament and he deserves to win it.

Who knows what could've happened if Marin had enough gas in the tank for the whole match, but Murray fought off his demons and played some incredible shots out there. Good luck I guess, although, I doubt I'll cheer for him :spit: What a messy post, huh :spit:

mandeep
01-28-2010, 04:50 PM
I don't like Murray and I probably never will. Trust me, I've tried so hard, but I just can't. However, he's played pretty good at this tournament and he deserves to win it.

Who knows what could've happened if Marin had enough gas in the tank for the whole match, but Murray fought off his demons and played some incredible shots out there. Good luck I guess, although, I doubt I'll cheer for him :spit: What a messy post, huh :spit:

The guy that deserves to win is the one that actually wins :) If you can't take 3 sets in the final, you don't deserve to win

McAlistar
01-28-2010, 04:54 PM
Thanks for that input Einstein!

Voo de Mar
01-28-2010, 05:05 PM
http://gaygamer.net/images/grab_onto_your_ostrich_its_gon/ostrich_head.jpg

Raquel
01-28-2010, 05:10 PM
http://www.wisegorilla.com/images/UK/ScotlandFlag.gif
:lol: Love it ;)

Well done Andy!! :worship: :bounce:

Good luck on Sunday, Andy! :D

MalwareDie
01-28-2010, 05:15 PM
I think Murray has the advantage in the final. Federer has not been impressive since his USO match against Soderling.

ChinoRios4Ever
01-28-2010, 05:28 PM
take this GS Muzza :fiery:

Cilic amazing run, deserved top 10 :yeah:

Guy Haines
01-28-2010, 05:45 PM
The sad part is, I would still tap that even with that enormous mouth.

*Hangs head in shame*

It's also hilarious how many online newspapers are using this picture in thier stories. :lol:

I am so SICK of that kind of reaction after points, from him and Federer. The gaping hellmouths.

Cilic conducts himself better than players older than him, including "gentleman" Roger.

Guy Haines
01-28-2010, 05:54 PM
:sobbing: I really didn't know what to expect from this match, but my hopes went high after the first set. He seemed utterly unimpressed by the occasion, focused and as fresh as could be expected. I thought he lacked aggression from 2nd set onwards, which is always a losing proposition.

He was tired, and his time will come. His opponent was a worthy winner.

Oranges, you and I have liked Marin for a while, and you know I said this would be his breakthrough tournament in the thread about who would break through.

Semis is actually right for him when you think of the Australian Open's recent history and finals-then-flameout brigade. Marin is a steady builder. He's improved so much in the last year or two, not that you'd know it from all the stupid Gu-echo hateration that used to infect here.

It was a real pleasure to watch his tennis at this tournament, to see him fight off nerves with resolve, and witness the new finesse and speed in his game. And yet he has much to improve, which is a good thing.

momo_momo
01-28-2010, 06:15 PM
So did Thomas Johansson.

There is more to tennis than slams.

Last time I heard, Slams were the hearts and souls of tennis. ATP and ITF programmed it that way. I almost forgot JCF even, with his lone slam.

I have almanacs here, they don't even list the runner-up.

docking34
01-28-2010, 06:33 PM
murray is officially on fire. i look for him to win ao2010.

oranges
01-28-2010, 06:34 PM
He was tired, and his time will come. His opponent was a worthy winner.

Oranges, you and I have liked Marin for a while, and you know I said this would be his breakthrough tournament in the thread about who would break through.

Semis is actually right for him when you think of the Australian Open's recent history and finals-then-flameout brigade. Marin is a steady builder. He's improved so much in the last year or two, not that you'd know it from all the stupid Gu-echo hateration that used to infect here.

It was a real pleasure to watch his tennis at this tournament, to see him fight off nerves with resolve, and witness the new finesse and speed in his game. And yet he has much to improve, which is a good thing.

I was not disappointed in any way, and I don't mean just the entire run, but today as well. I thought he fought valiantly till the last point, even though the further it went, the less likely a turnaround of the match looked. Agree with all of the above :D :yeah:

Allez
01-28-2010, 06:36 PM
Murray is the best. He is so ready. He has to be the favourite going into the final against either one o the other semi finalists! He is on FAYAH!

Clydey
01-28-2010, 06:45 PM
The guy that deserves to win is the one that actually wins :) If you can't take 3 sets in the final, you don't deserve to win

Spot on. I hate it when commentators say things like "he deserved that game" or "he deserved that point". The beauty of tennis is that you rarely win unless you deserve it. Luck is such a minor factor that the better player on the day wins 99.99% of the time. No player is entitled to anything until they earn it.

Agassi'sMullet
01-28-2010, 06:46 PM
I'm rooting for Andy in the final. Never really liked the guy, but I loved his match today.

Brick Top
01-28-2010, 06:53 PM
one word MUZZZZAAAA...now take it all please:worship:

MsTree
01-28-2010, 07:02 PM
Just watching the match now so can't comment on the tennis but how fucking great is it that Andy's in another final :D

Marin :hearts: he's got loads of potential, and his game is so big already :) Wonderful prospect for the future and seems a really nice guy. Good run for him, and I feel it can only get better. :D

Roamed
01-28-2010, 07:04 PM
Curious. Could someone evaluate, was he playing worse than yesterday? First set dropped to exhausted Cilic would suggest so but I only watched the highlights.

scoobs
01-28-2010, 07:10 PM
Curious. Could someone evaluate, was he playing worse than yesterday? First set dropped to exhausted Cilic would suggest so but I only watched the highlights.
My take on it is that he started a bit slowly and nervously especially when he failed to break early in the first - he had chances, could not get it.

I also think early on he was struggling to get the tactics just right between trying to hit with pace and trying to extend the rallies and move Cilic about - later on he started to find the right weight of shot he needed to use, and this allowed him to play closer to the baseline and play the points more on his terms.

Cilic also started to fade, definitely, especially after that breakthrough in the second set. The momentum switched and Marin was just too tired to be able to find a way to wrest it back.

Clydey
01-28-2010, 07:11 PM
Curious. Could someone evaluate, was he playing worse than yesterday? First set dropped to exhausted Cilic would suggest so but I only watched the highlights.

In the first set, he played worse. For the rest of the match, his level was marginally below that shown in the Nadal math. He put together a great final 3 sets, though, hitting arguably the 2 shots of the tournament. It was a different match, however. He used controlled aggression, but wasn't quite as aggressive as he was against Nadal. Still, he ended up with 47 winners and 29 UEs.

Roamed
01-28-2010, 07:23 PM
My take on it is that he started a bit slowly and nervously especially when he failed to break early in the first - he had chances, could not get it.

I also think early on he was struggling to get the tactics just right between trying to hit with pace and trying to extend the rallies and move Cilic about - later on he started to find the right weight of shot he needed to use, and this allowed him to play closer to the baseline and play the points more on his terms.

Cilic also started to fade, definitely, especially after that breakthrough in the second set. The momentum switched and Marin was just too tired to be able to find a way to wrest it back.

In the first set, he played worse. For the rest of the match, his level was marginally below that shown in the Nadal math. He put together a great final 3 sets, though, hitting arguably the 2 shots of the tournament. It was a different match, however. He used controlled aggression, but wasn't quite as aggressive as he was against Nadal. Still, he ended up with 47 winners and 29 UEs.

Cheers for the responses :)

Jōris
01-28-2010, 07:36 PM
The match was Cilic's before the consequences of his difficult draw caught up with him. Murray became better as the match went on though, at least Federer won't be gifted another inexperienced finalist.

severus
01-28-2010, 07:46 PM
The Idea of Pushergay being grand slam champion disgusts me.

Iluzionista
01-28-2010, 07:52 PM
May I just say of all "Come on"s, Murray's are the worst :spit: I mean, what's up with the face http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20100128/10/172979934.jpg

:spit:

MsTree
01-28-2010, 07:54 PM
If you want to watch models playing tennis then go watch wta :p

Clydey
01-28-2010, 07:55 PM
May I just say of all "Come on"s, Murray's are the worst :spit: I mean, what's up with the face http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20100128/10/172979934.jpg

:spit:

To be fair, that was a massive point to break and an incredible shot. He can be forgiven for that one. The adrenaline rush must have made his mouth even bigger.

out_here_grindin
01-28-2010, 07:56 PM
If you want to watch models playing tennis then go watch wta :p

not when the williams sisters play

MsTree
01-28-2010, 08:02 PM
not when the williams sisters play

Fair point :)

Iluzionista
01-28-2010, 08:02 PM
I'm kiddin :lol: It was a great shot, that one and he had another one at the end of the match!

But I do think his celebrations are awful :p

Jōris
01-28-2010, 08:16 PM
May I just say of all "Come on"s, Murray's are the worst :spit: I mean, what's up with the face http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20100128/10/172979934.jpg

:spit:

In the next Scream movie the killer wears an Andy Murray mask.

Sham Kay
01-28-2010, 10:02 PM
Eurosport commentator Fru McMillan describing Murrays game: "Well, sometimes when you caress a baby's bottom you pinch it" other guy: "hahaha.. speak for yourself Fru..."

Yes Murray played well, but man I'm starting to want American commentary.

scoobs
01-28-2010, 10:04 PM
Eurosport commentator Fru McMillan describing Murrays game: "Well, sometimes when you caress a baby's bottom you pinch it" other guy: "hahaha.. speak for yourself Fru..."

Yes Murray played well, but man I'm starting to want American commentary.
Seriously? I mean, it makes our commentators look like giants of literature and verbal dexterity.

chalkdust
01-28-2010, 11:12 PM
Eurosport commentator Fru McMillan describing Murrays game: "Well, sometimes when you caress a baby's bottom you pinch it" other guy: "hahaha.. speak for yourself Fru...".
What did he mean by that?!

scoobs
01-28-2010, 11:13 PM
What did he mean by that?!
I think it was in the context of aiming for a dropshot and hitting it into the net.

Nidhogg
01-29-2010, 09:09 AM
The last three points of the match in HD, including the shot.

oMBZaoORYtg

saniapower
01-29-2010, 09:49 AM
good match though

born_on_clay
01-29-2010, 03:09 PM
Go and get the title Andy !

superslam77
01-29-2010, 04:12 PM
In the next Scream movie the killer wears an Andy Murray mask.

:spit: