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Sean Berman - American or Australian?

Matchu
01-28-2010, 09:44 AM
This guy is into the semifinals of the Australian Open juniors as a wildcard entrant given to him by Tennis Australia and is written down as Australian on the drawsheet but then when you click on his profile it says he is from the US. On the Tennis Australia website they claim he is Australian but on the itf website they claim he is American.

What is the deal? He played in the Optus Australian u18s event in December last year which is a closed tournament for Australians. Tennis Australia is giving this guy wildcards but is he actually going to play for Australia?

Surely someone on this forum has a bit more knowledge on this situation than I do.

bad gambler
01-28-2010, 11:28 AM
He will definitely be playing for Australia.

Chris Mahoney was at the Sydney tournament a couple of weeks ago and I had a chance to talk to him. He also happens to be Bearman's coach.

His family has settled in Melbourne which is where Berman's mother is from. My understanding is that they have already lodged the paperwork but still waiting for approval before he can be a naturalised Aussie and from that point on officially represent Australia

JtK
01-28-2010, 02:29 PM
Hey, this is what i found about him: http://http://www.jwire.com.au/2010/01/27/courting-the-future-sean-berman-new-star-new-aussie/

It confirms what bad gambler said and that his paperwork has been approved

Wrong Direction
01-29-2010, 12:14 AM
http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news/local/sport/tennis/tomic-to-earn-his-spot-at-nw-event/1736951.aspx


I wonder if some of our young guys with ATP rankings would get a Wild Card into a challenger event if they went and changed nationalities. There are a few who have parents from other countries, maybe an option if TA keep rubbing their noses in it.

ace ventura
01-29-2010, 05:01 AM
Someone saw this kid hitting with Woodbridge and Molik a mth before open, while aussie players yeah with ATP rankings left out on other court...

TA are not known at all for their Loyality, just shows how desperate they are,,, so yeah WRONG DIRECTION good point....

They should at least inform ITF , who posted article about Berman just yesterday says he's from USA .

Well NZ and USA did a good job developing this kid thats for sure.

Thanos
01-29-2010, 05:02 AM
heres another article from the australian open website to clear up his nationality.


www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2010-01-29/201001291264758020609.html?fpos=r4


On Thursday, Aussie Sean Berman continued his good run in the junior boys’ singles, beating 10th seed Guilherme Clezar from Brazil 6-4 6-2 to move into the semi-finals. In the previous round, Berman beat third seed and fellow Australian junior Jason Kubler in straight sets, and before that, he held off Slovak Jozef Kovalik, the 16th seed, in three sets.

At the beginning of the week, there was confusion about which country Sean was representing – was it the United States or Australia? Watching Berman at courtside in his first round match, Sean’s mum confirmed that it was Australia. She said the family have done a lot of travelling for the sake of Sean’s tennis, but they are all right behind him - and excited by their most recent move back to her home town of Melbourne.

Sean was born in South Africa just before the Berman’s moved to New Zealand. When Sean was 12, the family then relocated to Los Angeles to further Sean’s tennis education. That remained their home until a few months ago, when they settled in Melbourne.

“I spent some time in America, playing and travelling and training. But now I’m here in Australia and playing for Australia,” Sean said in a post-match interview.

Asked how he thinks the move to Australia will improve his game, he replied, “Tennis Australia has some unbelievably good tennis coaches with extremely good knowledge. I think what they’ve got to offer me will be very beneficial to my game, and I think it can really work out.”

Sean has been representing Australia at the Australian Open 2010 in both the main draw qualifying rounds and the junior boys’ singles competition.

A loss in the first round of the qualifying to Daniel Evans from the United Kingdom was a valuable experience. “I had a tough first-round match. I lost but I learnt a lot from it.” He says he has been able to bring that out to his boys’ singles matches.

While Berman says that his serve is not his strength, it was certainly working for him against Clezar on Thursday. He won 87 per cent of points on his first serve, and did not give up a break point opportunity. Sean believes that his ground game is his strength. Determination and a never-give-up attitude also appear to be paying off.

Other media outlets have reported Berman as saying he has set his mind on playing in the juniors at Wimbledon in July, but all Berman has been saying of late is that he has a challenger tournament planned. “I haven’t looked too far ahead. I’ve just been concentrating on my next match,” he says.

Earlier in the week, the new Aussie had a chance to have a hit-up with Rafael Nadal. When asked whether it had been his dream to have a hit with Nadal, Berman politely replied that it was his dream to beat Nadal.

Let’s hope so.

Berman plays sixth-seeded Hungarian Marton Fucsovics in the semi-final of the junior boys’ singles on Friday at 3pm on Show Court 2.

there a video of berman hitting with nadal on australian open website.

Thanos
01-29-2010, 05:05 AM
Someone saw this kid hitting with Woodbridge and Molik a mth before open, while aussie players yeah with ATP rankings left out on other court...

TA are not known at all for their Loyality, just shows how desperate they are,,, so yeah WRONG DIRECTION good point....

They should at least inform ITF , who posted article about Berman just yesterday says he's from USA .

Well NZ and USA did a good job developing this kid thats for sure.

well he just won against fucsovics and now in the junior final. so its look like good decision by them but obviously they can't take credit for his development...

ace ventura
01-29-2010, 06:40 AM
well he just won against fucsovics and now in the junior final. so its look like good decision by them but obviously they can't take credit for his development...


OH BUT THEY WILL....

This will save TA ass ..... perfect for their Media Hype.

Smoke944
01-29-2010, 07:02 AM
Hate to say it but this kid and his family seem like mercenaries content to jump nationalities whenever better funding opportunities pop up.
Sean Berman:
Was born in South Africa
Grew up in New Zealand
Spent years 13-17 living in California and playing for US
Now playing for Australia :rolleyes:

Makes the Kazakh team look like the most patriotic guys ever by comparison.

Anyway, I watched him play in Kalamazoo last year and he didn't stand out at all. If you'd have told me he would be in the final of the AO Juniors the next year I'd tell you that you were crazy. AO juniors field is a bit weaker than the other junior slams but all the same I am surprised to see him having such success.
With all this said I think his efforts at the pro level so far have been pretty solid and I wish him the best of luck.

Matchu
01-29-2010, 08:27 AM
OH BUT THEY WILL....

This will save TA ass ..... perfect for their Media Hype.

Isn't it funny how whenever TA makes a "bad" decision something else seems to pop up, its uncanny. Bernard gets MD wildcard 2009 - Bernard makes history and wins a GS round, Kubler gets number one seeding at 18s - Kubler wins u18s, Kubler gets MD wildcard - Sean Berman makes junior final.

Regardless of what happens as long as something happens (and it always does) then TA aren't doing that bad of a job. Yes Jason Kublers WC was probably undeserved but now we have Sean Berman who has beaten Kubler on his way to the final and looking like another good prospect. Plus Berman actually has a senior ranking as opposed to Kubler.

Will be interesting if Berman wins the Aussie Open juniors how he will go in Burnie. Top 1000 if he wins a round so big motivation for Sean to get a win in Burnie. I still am not going to get fully behind Sean until he gets his citizenship and AUS is behind his name everywhere.

ace ventura
01-29-2010, 05:36 PM
Yeah he cant be a citizen yet or he would have be AUS on itf website.

He has certainly come in at a good time , since TA didn't manage to develop a whole heap of really talented players they had , they managed over the years to send a whole out of Melbourne squads,
like pat nichols, steve donald, dayne kelly, andrew gregory, mark verryth , steve hoh , marvin barker, chris young thats just a few of the players who were here when Tiley got in, yet spat out along the way. and now gone on youth policy. All going it alone, gone to college or given up, Not a good track record at all these squads.
Then you have AIS, the amount that have been in and kicked out after a year, " the statistics of waste."

It certainly shows there is no room for long term development here.

So yeah may be they will have to imports to get results from their development programs. It is certainly junior tennis they are funding and backing all the way.

n8
01-29-2010, 08:52 PM
Isn't it funny how whenever TA makes a "bad" decision something else seems to pop up, its uncanny. Bernard gets MD wildcard 2009 - Bernard makes history and wins a GS round, Kubler gets number one seeding at 18s - Kubler wins u18s, Kubler gets MD wildcard - Sean Berman makes junior final.

Regardless of what happens as long as something happens (and it always does) then TA aren't doing that bad of a job. Yes Jason Kublers WC was probably undeserved but now we have Sean Berman who has beaten Kubler on his way to the final and looking like another good prospect. Plus Berman actually has a senior ranking as opposed to Kubler.

Will be interesting if Berman wins the Aussie Open juniors how he will go in Burnie. Top 1000 if he wins a round so big motivation for Sean to get a win in Burnie. I still am not going to get fully behind Sean until he gets his citizenship and AUS is behind his name everywhere.

Even if Tomic had been thrashed in the first round last year, I still believe TA was justified in giving him a wildcard in 2009 for several reasons. 1 - he won the juniors a year earlier, 2 - he had an Australian Open qualifying win a year earlier, 3 - he had a senior ranking (top 800), 4 - he had a respectable showing against world number 15 Verdasco in the Brisbane International (6-4 6-2).

Good luck Berman in the final!

willingnable
01-30-2010, 03:26 AM
Well he lost the final 7-5, 6-3. So does that result mean that we no longer consider him Australian - well atleast not until he starts winning again.

jmf07
01-30-2010, 03:32 AM
Will be interesting to see what he does in the future.

Tomic's 2009 Wildcard was never in doubt due to his talent but it was more to do with his behaviour. He had the defaulting episode which had come just after the DC incident and a lot of people felt that Tennis Australia had to take a stand against this as it was evidently a major problem. Instead though they opted for a weaker punishment and awarded Tomic his wildcard. You look at what is happening now and it is because of stuff like this why Tomic believes he should get his own way and probably thinks that Tennis Australia will eventually cave into his demands.

ace ventura
01-30-2010, 06:05 AM
They know TA will give into their demands, they always have, people have complained about this stuff for years and TA have chosen to ignore it.
They just kept sinking more and more into him, even up till now when they have gone and got him the IMG fitness coach, for goodness sakes...

What annoys me is TA have overlooked so many players who some only a couple of years ago were going 76 76 with Tomic, or some like Marsland who even beat him yet they got nothing.

Yet so much was done for Tomic, was at the expense of so so many good juniors we had. Had they made him toe the line back then they could have bought a strong group through,,, but no Tiley defended them till the end. He was on the national news at last open saying John Tomic was a good man.
It is astounding how far TA will go for short term results insead of long term development.

Woodbridge is out there trying to mend his rifts with Leyton, like hey leyton is old enough to do what he wants why should he come down to any one, Leyton is not stupid, nor desperate he has some pride.

Tomic will never play to an empty crowd , this has all created too much interest , TA got what they wanted there they run his website, they have done everything possible for him to be in the spotlight. So that draws them into all of it.

Tomic may well be better getting out of here for a fresh start , it has all become such a mess here, and doesn't seem to stop, and why wouldn't Croatia also give him w/cs .

Besides Tennis Australia seem pretty sure about their next lot of top ten players,,, they have already started naming them, the next future stars..... best group in 20 years they have said....

So really the next five years in Australian tennis will be so interesting.

Tenys4r
01-31-2010, 09:47 AM
Of course TA will give in. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk - that can be seen but all the "disclipinary action" taken against Tomic and his father - geez that worked - the man is in the papers every other day. I actually heard that Berman's dad is not much better - he seems to jump nationalities pretty quickly - and from the article below it seems Sean isn't even too sure why he is now playing as an Australian!

What makes me laugh about Woodbridge and his comments about the best group in 20 years - how would he know? How long has he held the position - 1 year maybe 2 years? Was he looking around the juniors courts 5, 10 years ago? Well maybe if he was he might have seen some very talented players who are now being screwed over by TA because they have hit the ripe old age of 20-23.

I almost wish Tomic would up and go - just Dokic all over again - and they still haven't learnt anything from that!

ace ventura
01-31-2010, 11:20 AM
Ripe old age of 20- 23 !!!

Try anywhere from 18 up ....

Tenys4r
02-01-2010, 10:02 PM
True - will change that to 18 up!

jmf07
11-05-2010, 07:44 AM
Laos 10k Hardcourt

R1: Sean BERMAN (USA) defeated Elbert SIE (INA) 7-6(3) 7-6(2)
R2: Sean BERMAN (USA) defeated Liang-Chi HUANG (TPE) 6-4 7-5
QF: Sean BERMAN (USA) defeated Ti CHEN (TPE) (3) 7-6(8) 7-6(2)
SF: Roko KARANUSIC (CRO) (1) Vs Sean BERMAN (USA)

Good job. Beat a former world number 3 junior in round 2 and then a player who used to be ranked inside the top 300. Still with USA next to his name and TA left him out of their results but they also did it to the guys playing in Mexico so no big deal there.

jmf07
11-06-2010, 12:58 AM
Roko the Mailman defeated Sean 62 60. He will probably be playing in the Thailand Future next week.

jmf07
11-12-2010, 03:52 AM
Thailand 10k Hard
R1: Sean BERMAN (USA) defeated Dylan Seong-Kwan KIM (KOR) 6-4 4-6 6-3
R2: Arata ONOZAWA (JPN) (7) defeated Sean BERMAN (USA) 7-5 6-0

He isn't entered for next week's Thai Future.

Matchu
12-11-2010, 05:28 AM
Berman able to win the u18s over Duckworth in three sets. It'll be interesting to see if TA upgrade his qualifying wildcard (he would've got one anyway) to a MD wildcard like they did with Kubler last year. It is interesting that both the ITF and ATP still list Berman as American but Tennis Australia seem very confident he is going to stick with us. Not that I think it will happen but it would be a tragedy if he got his ranking fairly high due to wildcards only to leave Australia and return to the U.S and then recieve wildcards from them also. Guess you never really know with this guy.

grandlam1959
12-11-2010, 07:40 AM
So Tennis Australia think he will stick with them? First Berman moves from South Africa to New Zealand.....could not get on with TNZ moved to USA obviously things did not go right in the USA so now in Australia. Berman is too short to survive in the modern game and i guess it shows the depth of aussie tennis when he is winning the 18s .....My tip anywhere between 150-350 for both Duckworth and Berman

RustyOz
12-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Berman able to win the u18s over Duckworth in three sets. ...Tennis Australia seem very confident he is going to stick with us. Not that I think it will happen but it would be a tragedy if he got his ranking fairly high due to wildcards only to leave Australia and return to the U.S and then recieve wildcards from them also. Guess you never really know with this guy.

Right now at his age it is most probably the parents making the decisions rather than Sean, but it will be interesting to see what happens in the future, much like Tomic.

Chris.
05-29-2011, 09:28 AM
Just wanted to get this thread going it says he is representing Australia in the RG Juniors.

RustyOz
05-29-2011, 09:54 PM
Playing with the Aussie flag next to his name, Berman plays a gutsy match, saving match points to bring home a 16 75 75 win in the first round of the RG Juniors Boys Singles over Italy's Gianluigi Quinzi. Luckily he found his clay feet quickly.
Best of luck in the next round Berman.

Audacity
05-31-2011, 11:43 AM
Was reading an article in Italian about this young talent Gianluigi... they referred to Berman as "dall'americano". His nationality still up in the air I guess...

Chris.
06-07-2011, 12:36 PM
Berman playing a futures tournment in Netherlands with the Aussie flag next to his name.

RustyOz
06-08-2011, 03:41 AM
The Aussie flag next to his name helped as Berman carved out a three set win 63 46 63, unfortunately over fellow Aussie, Blake Mott. The as yet unranked Mott, who only turned 15 in April, may be one to watch as he won two rounds to qualify into the main draw, and then took a set off 18 year-old Berman.
Next up for Sean is 5th seed, the experienced Finn Timo Nieminen.

RustyOz
06-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Experience too good against Berman. He bows out in 2nd round of Holland Futures 16 26 to 29 year-old Timo Nieminen.

Audacity
06-25-2011, 06:30 AM
Sean has (USA) next to his name on the Wimbledon website.

Edit: also on the official ATP website. Click Here (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Be/S/Sean-Berman.aspx)

Chris.
06-25-2011, 07:01 AM
:sad:

Nathaliia
06-25-2011, 07:29 AM
To answer the question from the thread title I more than suspect he is Jewish :) (classic surname)

RustyOz
06-25-2011, 12:25 PM
To answer the question from the thread title I more than suspect he is Jewish :) (classic surname)

Jewish is a religion, not a Nationality.

Berman is South African/American/Kiwi/Oztralian ????

smile
07-28-2011, 09:50 AM
Just checked the selection process webpage for the 18's nationals in the usa, Kalamazoo. Berman is still listed as US.

smile
07-28-2011, 09:51 AM
but is not playing in the tournament