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AO QF: Murray beats injured Rafito 6-3 7-6(2) 3-0 ret.

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LinkMage
01-26-2010, 11:33 AM
Too much bad luck for Rafito. :awww: :tears:

Mechlan
01-26-2010, 11:34 AM
Some great play by both, better player won. Congrats Murray, great win. :D

Björki
01-26-2010, 11:34 AM
:awww:

Shirogane
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Never in doubt.

whattheheck
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Great play from Andy, pity Rafa though.

tealeaves
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Good job Muzza

Clydey
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Injured my arse. He was 2 sets down and then suddenly he started complaining about his knee.

Brilliant performance from Andy. Tactically spot on.

LleytonMonfils
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Murray outplayed Nadal. Rafa didn't get hurt until the 3rd set. Congrats to Andy.

habibko
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
disgraceful from Nadal, he should have stayed there and not taken it away from Murray, but it isn't the first time he does that, never in doubt.

Murray has beaten Nadal to submission :worship: what a match!

your_valentine
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Awesome result :hearts: Vamos Murray :inlove: Great display today :bounce:

s_j
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
It sucks that Rafael had to retire - those damn knees again! - but Andy was playing so well that I'm sure he would have won in straight sets regardless of the injury to make it 15-0.

Murray to win the title? I think so.

LocoPorElTenis
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Dreadful match by Nadal.

SheepleBuster
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Stop Trolling. Rafa was clearly not injured ;)

mangoes
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
Pity the match ended like this.......I hope the knee isn't seriously injuryed :(

Bargearse
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
I don't pity Rafa at all. He faked this injury because he wasn't going to win the match. There was no sign of injury until he lost that 2nd set. Vintage Nadal. I wish he'd not only retire from this match but announce his retirement from tennis immediately.

Bascule
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
What a shame. If he could he would stay for three more games.

Murray plays with the great self confidence, good chances against Cilic and in the finale.

martinatreue
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
well he outplayed Nadal before the injury but this is definitely a sad development. Not a Nadal fan here but you have to feel for the guy. This sucks. :)

JMG
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
Expected straight sets win.

rubbERR
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
Injured my arse. He was 2 sets down and then suddenly he started complaining about his knee.

Brilliant performance from Andy. Tactically spot on.

go home fanboy :lol:

Deivid23
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
Very well played Andrew. I think his time to win a Slam has finally come.

Get well soon, Rafa, those knees :help:

tenalyser
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
Another fake injury "poor rafito":sad:

Arhaych
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
Murray still a mug one dimensional pusher?

gaitare
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
Good to see Rafa keeping his post-AO 2009 winning grand slam record intact. He NEVER loses when he's healthy.

Superb stuff by Murray.

PS. I almost feel for Nadal.

JanKowalski
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
Rafa is done, like Safina. It's sad, but it's the truth.

tyruk14
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
What a joke this Nadal is. And to think I was leaning toward his corner rather than Murray's. He's never winning another hardcourt slam.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

where are the big mouthed Nadal fanboys now huh

HUH?????????????

:haha::haha::woohoo:

GHETTOTENNIS
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
fake injury

arm
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
I am so not going to suggest that he wasn't hurt some way, but I hope a lot of people learn from this. :spit::haha:

Really wished Rafa had won, but still have to :worship: Murray.

martinatreue
01-26-2010, 11:38 AM
Whoever said that Nadal played dreadfully is nuts. He played his game but got outplayed. He is not a player with a plan B really so he played well but got beaten. Then he got injured and that sucks.

SheepleBuster
01-26-2010, 11:38 AM
The way Cilic played today, Murray may just not show up for the semis and come for the final only.

MIMIC
01-26-2010, 11:38 AM
Murray still a mug one dimensional pusher?

He definitely changed my opinion. In this match, he really stepped up. :worship:

Now if only he could continue to play like this....

PamposCypriot
01-26-2010, 11:38 AM
Nadal should take Baghdatis and go play in the seniors! :rolleyes:

FairWeatherFan
01-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Cowardly retirement from Nadal after being comprehensively outplayed by Murray. He was moving well enough to at least finish the match.

Nadal's time at the top of tennis is running out.

Lopez
01-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Rafa loses nr. 2 ranking. Grab it Nole!

Exciting points most of the time. Murray playing tactically well. Should S&V more.

Rafatards have an excuse lined up. Rafa didn't look injured until the third set.

RogerFan82
01-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Injured my arse. He was 2 sets down and then suddenly he started complaining about his knee.

Brilliant performance from Andy. Tactically spot on.

:yeah:

Nadal outplayed for 2 sets. Then tweaked his knee in the beginning of the 3rd set. And quit. For all the talk of Nadal's fighting ability, he wimps out far too often when things are not going his way. His body language sucks when he is getting thumped.

alter ego
01-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Nadal pulled a young Djokovic :haha:

MrChopin
01-26-2010, 11:40 AM
First set was fantastic tennis. Nadal came out on fire and Murray responded by throwing the kitchen sink at him. Ripping CC BHs, S&V, taking the FH DTL, aces on big points... Murray won it in the tightest moments by playing some of the best tennis I've seen from him. Set 2 was pretty bland until after the fireworks, and again, Murray used that CC BH to breakdown Nadal's FH.

Djoke or Murray now destined for #2.

brithater
01-26-2010, 11:40 AM
rafa pusses out and doesnt give Andy match point. Thats not what real men do rafa. Andy served the match of his life and play wonderful tactical tennis. Rafa would not stick with adjustments that were working. Andy turned into a serve and volleyer on most first serves. The guy went from playing like Santoro last round to playing like Rafter. Nadal was weak on opportunities and made a lot of errors. Andy just too hot serving out of his mind and defending BPs well with aces. Real ass woopin.

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:40 AM
Expected one

Bargearse
01-26-2010, 11:40 AM
This Nadal is a sore loser and a bum. He should not only retire from this match but from tennis. Immediately. Weak. There was NO sign of injury until after he lost the 2nd set. Maybe his ego is a bit bruised, but nothing else. He needs excuses. This is vintage Nadal.:devil:

freeandlonely
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Murray:rocker2:
Can't believe I will ever support him like this, good job.

Ilovetheblues_86
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Good job Murray.

tennis2tennis
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
I'm at work at the moment so I've got no clue what going on, is it case of andy playing great or was rafa really injured?

wackykid
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Good to see Rafa keeping his post-AO 2009 winning grand slam record intact. He NEVER loses when he's healthy.

Superb stuff by Murray.

PS. I almost feel for Nadal.

well maybe he is indeed injured AGAIN... but if he is going to be injured in EVERY other GS... then his career is over.... can look forward to retirement already... :rolleyes:


regards,
wacky

FairWeatherFan
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Cowardly retirement from Nadal after being comprehensively outplayed by Murray. He was moving well enough to at least finish the match.

Nadal's time at the top of tennis is running out.

Gnomey
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Just 3 more games. Yeesh, Rafa.

Daniel
01-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Glad Nadal lost

Bargearse
01-26-2010, 11:42 AM
Pity the match ended like this.......I hope the knee isn't seriously injuryed :(

Yeah, me too. Hope the Tonya Harding mob didn't get to him.

aulus
01-26-2010, 11:42 AM
too bad for Nadal. probably a smart move not risking further injury. would have had to break back, and then win 2 more sets. and then he would have to beat Cilic and someone else.

Murray won the match, though. outplayed Nadal even though Nadal was playing well. i liked Murray's tactics. good balance between aggression and his usual counter-punching. served very well, too.

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:42 AM
Lol, who the hell was that interviewer?

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 11:43 AM
absolute pure bliss

nothing like see'ing that Nadal furrowed brow look

he was smashing balls around in anger such was how good Murray was slapping him :haha:

Bascule
01-26-2010, 11:43 AM
What a joke this AO became after two title defenders in last two years retired....

ossie
01-26-2010, 11:43 AM
to the haters who say nadal wasnt injured just look at the way he played last year and youll clearly see a difference, murray played a very good match though my new favourite to win it

MsTree
01-26-2010, 11:43 AM
Poor Rafa :hug: Gutted he couldn't finish the match, hope he's back fit before too long.

Andy had him beaten all the way though, good stuff from Andy :D

henke007
01-26-2010, 11:44 AM
Monball MUG did another WTA stunt and got the trainer in when he lost the epic 2nd set breaker!!

He was so pumped holding to 6-5 in the 2nd set.

Fkin MUG looser

Congrats Nole on the 2nd place rankings

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 11:44 AM
No way Nadal fakes an injury, or retires if he doesn't have to. Remember Rotterdam? He ate a final set bagel vs Murray rather than retire.

Having said that, he did say to the trainer the pain only started in the 2nd set..... when he was actually playing his best tennis.

save ausdecline
01-26-2010, 11:44 AM
i just saw an outplayed rafa who didnt want to finish the match and destroy his reputation

Surcouf
01-26-2010, 11:45 AM
Nadal has probably the worst luck of any top player.

His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.

He is maybe done for tennis. He is the greatest tennisplayer I have seen when healthy but it seems that he can't get back to a good shape physically.

sawan66278
01-26-2010, 11:45 AM
disgraceful from Nadal, he should have stayed there and not taken it away from Murray, but it isn't the first time he does that, never in doubt.

Murray has beaten Nadal to submission :worship: what a match!

You're right. Stick around and NOT get an injury that prevented you from competing and defending your Wimbledon title in 2009 looked at IMMEDIATELY.:rolleyes: Andy deserved to win and probably would have. However, don't act so heartless and classless. Rafa fans and myself are really worried...and tennis fans should be too. He quit right after winning a point...and if you think he was going to go down without fighting, well, then you must be thinking about someone else.

Stop Trolling. Rafa was clearly not injured ;)

Glad to see that you have not only X-Ray vision, but the unheard of ability to see in a manner akin to an MRI machine.:rolleyes:

Credit to Murray (except for his allegedly yelling at Rafa's camp)...and congrats to the 2010 AO Champ.

tyruk14
01-26-2010, 11:45 AM
Lol, who the hell was that interviewer?

Jim Courier. Two-time Roland Garros and Australian Open champion. Former world number one. Hall of famer. All-time great.

brithater
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
Injured my arse. He was 2 sets down and then suddenly he started complaining about his knee.

Brilliant performance from Andy. Tactically spot on.

Heres the deal. Rafa was injured in that third but I guarantee you if it was a set all or two sets to love he would have kept playing. No way coming out of that hole not 100% physicaly. My opinion ......he has no dick. Any real man would have finished the last 3 games to give Andy the clear definitive win. Rafa Nadal is a great champion and a mental warrior but he has no dick.

Great job Andy. Now keep playing those tactics and go WIN (Not wait for other to loose)the whole friggin tournament. Get this damn monkey off your back.

nanoman
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
Andy beat AND injured Nadal would be closer to the truth.

Well done Muggay, on course for his 1st GS title.

Surcouf
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
absolute pure bliss

nothing like see'ing that Nadal furrowed brow look

he was smashing balls around in anger such was how good Murray was slapping him :haha:

Lol, Murray was getting dominated in the second set.

He is very lucky that Nadal gifted him a break right after he broke him easily.

Nadal, injured and without confidence, still gave Murray a good test. That shows a lot of his abilities.

JediFed
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
Also, if Murray defeats Cilic, he passes Nadal as well, and Nadal falls to number 4, for the first time since May of 2005.

End of an era.

munZe konZa
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
First set was fantastic tennis. Nadal came out on fire and Murray responded by throwing the kitchen sink at him. Ripping CC BHs, S&V, taking the FH DTL, aces on big points... Murray won it in the tightest moments by playing some of the best tennis I've seen from him. Set 2 was pretty bland until after the fireworks, and again, Murray used that CC BH to breakdown Nadal's FH.

Djoke or Murray now destined for #2.

or Federer

RogerFan82
01-26-2010, 11:47 AM
Nadal could easily have stood on the court for 3 more games and taken a beating like a man. I lost a lot of respect for Nadal today.

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:47 AM
You're right. Stick around and NOT get an injury that prevented you from competing and defending your Wimbledon title in 2009 looked at IMMEDIATELY.:rolleyes: Andy deserved to win and probably would have. However, don't act so heartless and classless. Rafa fans and myself are really worried...and tennis fans should be too. He quit right after winning a point...and if you think he was going to go down without fighting, well, then you must be thinking about someone else.

Credit to Murray (except for his allegedly yelling at Rafa's camp)...and congrats to the 2010 AO Champ.

Agreed. I'm not Rafa's biggest fan by any means, but I don't want the guy to retire from tennis. I hope (if the injury genuinely has returned) that he can at some stage return to full fitness.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 11:47 AM
Lol, Murray was getting dominated in the second set.

He is very lucky that Nadal gifted him a break right after he broke him easily.

Nadal, injured and without confidence, still gave Murray a good test. That shows a lot of his abilities.just STFU fanboy :lol::lol::lol:

:woohoo:

william_renshaw
01-26-2010, 11:48 AM
That was probably the best match of Murray's career to date. He must be fav now for the AO surely.

bad gambler
01-26-2010, 11:48 AM
Some great depth of shots from Murray tonight, especially from the backhand.

Should win it all now

scoobs
01-26-2010, 11:48 AM
Well done Andy - I thought he was playing it the right way and was looking the likelier winner the way the match developed.

But such a shame that it finished this way for Rafa. I doubt he would have retired unless there was a problem.

Weird that the last two Aussie Open defending champions have surrendered their titles with retirements in the Quarter Finals.

simplet
01-26-2010, 11:48 AM
Nadal has probably the worst luck of any top player.

His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.

He is maybe done for tennis. He is the greatest tennisplayer I have seen when healthy but it seems that he can't get back to a good shape physically.

lol here it comes

rubbERR
01-26-2010, 11:48 AM
just STFU fanboy :lol::lol::lol:

:woohoo:

youre fanboy yourself so why trying to make it sound like insult, you twat :lol:

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:48 AM
Heres the deal. Rafa was injured in that third but I guarantee you if it was a set all or two sets to love he would have kept playing. No way coming out of that hole not 100% physicaly. My opinion ......he has no dick. Any real man would have finished the last 3 games to give Andy the clear definitive win. Rafa Nadal is a great champion and a mental warrior but he has no dick.

Great job Andy. Now keep playing those tactics and go WIN (Not wait for other to loose)the whole friggin tournament. Get this damn monkey off your back.

Nice logic dude

wackykid
01-26-2010, 11:49 AM
Nadal has probably the worst luck of any top player.

His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.

He is maybe done for tennis. He is the greatest tennisplayer I have seen when healthy but it seems that he can't get back to a good shape physically.

i don't think injuries is quite due to luck all the time... the way nadal plays his game is only to take a severe physical beating on his body... and over time the effects will start to show and he is going to get injured easily every now and then... it looks like nadal's career is pretty much on downhill from here...


regards,
wacky

save ausdecline
01-26-2010, 11:49 AM
i must agree with corey fieldman. (although i dont particularly like him/her.

Certinfy
01-26-2010, 11:49 AM
Yet to drop a set :D

Byrd
01-26-2010, 11:50 AM
Nadal needs to take a break from the game, permanently.

martinatreue
01-26-2010, 11:50 AM
Nadal could easily have stood on the court for 3 more games and taken a beating like a man. I lost a lot of respect for Nadal today.

So just staying out there 3 more games and not really trying that hard would make the victory sweeter??? What difference does it make? He knew he was getting outplayed and why risk further injury? You really think that just tanking the last 3 games would not get criticized? I don't even like Nadal one bit but he got hurt on his knee that caused him to sit out for months last year. Seems like a normal reason to stop playing to me. Just standing there for 3 more games is not gonna somehow make the victory sweeter for Murray.

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:50 AM
Jim Courier. Two-time Roland Garros and Australian Open champion. Former world number one. Hall of famer. All-time great.

Damn, didn't recognise him.

briecie
01-26-2010, 11:51 AM
Looks like no one wants to defend their Aust Open Title!! Djoker retired last year instead of defending and now Nadal:devil:
Now if we can only get Fed out of the way, we will have a brand new Champion:D

JediFed
01-26-2010, 11:51 AM
His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.


Plagued with injury? Really?

The man who's been in the top three for most of 5! years?

I think in the end we will compare Nadal to Wilander.

Wilander has 7 to 6 slams for Nadal, and didn't win any after 24. Nadal will be 24 in June. He's got one more shot at RG, and Wimbledon.

blank_frackis
01-26-2010, 11:51 AM
He may well have been genuinely injured - and only an idiot would risk aggravating a career threatening injury just to give their opponent a better victory - but there was nothing to suggest he was going to win the match before the injury happened. In comparison to his form over the last 6 months, Nadal played great tennis for the first two sets, yet Murray still outplayed him.

BigJohn
01-26-2010, 11:52 AM
Here we go with the injury...

So to make this short:

This win by Murray is not legit because Rafa was not 100%.

This does not count as Rafa not defending his AO Open title since, well, he was injured.

Also, there will be an * next to the name of this year's winner because it will not be considered a legit win in the record books since, you know, Rafa was injured and the winner will not have defeated an injury free Rafa.

Get well soon real #1.

HarryMan
01-26-2010, 11:53 AM
Well, I don't doubt Nadal's injury. What I find surprising is he didn't stick around for just three more games and give Murray a clean victory. All he had to do was stand there and let Murray do everything else.

I don't think if he had won the first two sets, he would have retired this way. Andy deserved this win, he was the better player throughout the match.

dodo
01-26-2010, 11:53 AM
lol at retiring 3 games from the end. true spartan.
oh, and lets not forget

AO title is guaranteed 100% for Rafa,no way he is going to loose there.... noone and i mean NOONE is gonna beat him there.. as true as the end of the days,there is nothing that can stop it.So this thread is useless.To sum it up,Rafa will win AO.So i conclude by saying that if the australian open is to take place as it has been taking place through years and as is being projected Rafa will win it.Do i make myself clear?

freeandlonely
01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
Nadal has probably the worst luck of any top player.

His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.

He is maybe done for tennis. He is the greatest tennisplayer I have seen when healthy but it seems that he can't get back to a good shape physically.

:haha:

Topspin Forehand
01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
Sad day for Nadal. Not only he loses here but his knee flares up again. This will never go away. :(

Gnomey
01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
So just staying out there 3 more games and not really trying that hard would make the victory sweeter??? What difference does it make? He knew he was getting outplayed and why risk further injury? You really think that just tanking the last 3 games would not get criticized? I don't even like Nadal one bit but he got hurt on his knee that caused him to sit out for months last year. Seems like a normal reason to stop playing to me. Just standing there for 3 more games is not gonna somehow make the victory sweeter for Murray.

It might not make the victory sweeter, but it'd show some integrity.

Why am I talking about integrity here?

Emperor Yi
01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
RAFAwonCYGS on suicide watch

spec7er
01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
Pretty good tactics from both players actually. Nadal was trying to breakdown the Murray FH and push him off the baseline, while Murray executed brilliantly in taking away the time from Nadal. The CC BH and the 1st server were on fire! It was a really closely contested match. :D

Too bad Nadal had that knee injury. I was hoping for a five-setter with the kind of level of play they had in the first two sets.

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:56 AM
The Nadal trolls will now go into hiding till rafa comes back, where they will reappear under new names such as 'RAFAWONUSO2010' and 'MadDan'

Sophocles
01-26-2010, 11:57 AM
Murray outplayed him for 2 sets. If Nadal was indeed injured, it's because Murray had him on the run so much.

Nolby
01-26-2010, 11:57 AM
Match Stats:

http://i45.tinypic.com/21mc6lz.jpg

94 points for Muzza to 75 for Rafa! :eek: Rafa must have been injured the entire match! :p

ApproachShot
01-26-2010, 11:57 AM
I'm thinking that the time he lost his footing in the second set might have been the time when something was triggered in Rafa's knee. He did tell the trainer that he was experiencing pain from some point in the second set but had not been affected by it previously in the tournament. I don't think Rafa would retire unless he was genuinely very concerned for his physical condition - this is the first time after all, that he is slamless since he won his first major. I hope he makes a full recovery in time for IW and Miami at the latest.

Murray on the other hand seems to be on imperious form as the only person in the tournament not to have dropped a set en route to the semi final. I don't know whether or not he will now go on to win his maiden slam, but he has certainly given a good account of himself so far.

Surcouf
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
Plagued with injury? Really?

The man who's been in the top three for most of 5! years?

I think in the end we will compare Nadal to Wilander.

Wilander has 7 to 6 slams for Nadal, and didn't win any after 24. Nadal will be 24 in June. He's got one more shot at RG, and Wimbledon.


Yes, plagued.

I have the feeling that Nadal would have had 2-3 slams in addition by now, with having only as much injuries as the other players.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
Lol, Murray was getting dominated in the second set.


2nd set: Murray 43 points, Nadal 39

Murray also had 4bps at 5-5.

ryan23
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
There was nothing wrong with his knee first 2 sets, he was getting nailed big time

Sham Kay
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
youre fanboy yourself so why trying to make it sound like insult, you twat :lol:

You're not very funny. At least have the decency to admit Murray played well, even if you hate him for whatever reason.

Murray played great and dominated the match. Deserved win, but Nadal did the right thing by retiring in my opinion. No point in harming his future tennis career just to prove to MTF users that he's "a man" or he has "a dick", or to give Murray the pleasure of actually winning the proper way. I still respect Nadal and may he have better luck with injuries in the future and get better soon.

Murray goes marching on :worship:

rolandgarros
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
Those who bet Murray to win the match hate RAFA for sure...:rolleyes:

vincayou
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
Spectacular match from both from game one. Murray just out this world. I hope he goes and win the whole thing.

Nadal never retired in a slam, it must be very serious.

Voo de Mar
01-26-2010, 11:59 AM
I expected more competitive match. Pity that Nadal didn't stay on court to the end of the third set.

ryan23
01-26-2010, 11:59 AM
Rafa always retires when he knows he has no chance- the guys a complete pussy

green25814
01-26-2010, 11:59 AM
I dont recognize him anymore either. He went Fag on us.

Dude, you need to admit I was right about Murray's serve :lol:

Lalalovesong
01-26-2010, 11:59 AM
I'm really sad about nadal having to retire :hug:
First verdasco and now nadal, I hope djokovic wins it all. But I doubt it.

I hope rafa recovers soon. The season is long.

superslam77
01-26-2010, 12:00 PM
Injured my arse. He was 2 sets down and then suddenly he started complaining about his knee.

Brilliant performance from Andy. Tactically spot on.

OH HAPPY DAYS!! oh happy days.

OH HAPPY DAYS!! oh happy days.

WHEN FEDEX WALKS...when fedex walks.

he takes my sins away. OH HAPPY DAYS!

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:00 PM
So now Murray has all the presure to win the whole thing when he has never won a slam and his matches are.....

Anderson
Gicuel
Isner
Rafa default

I think that is a little unfair but whatever. It will be interesting now how he handles they pressure now since technically he did not beat Rafa. Not sayin he was not going to just that he did not face match points.

scoobs
01-26-2010, 12:00 PM
I dont recognize him anymore either. He went Fag on us.
Keep your homophobic comments to yourself.

TheWall
01-26-2010, 12:01 PM
Yes, plagued.

I have the feeling that Nadal would have had 2-3 slams in addition by now, with having only as much injuries as the other players.

You can't punish your body like Nadal does without side effects, it's either (6?) slams AND injury, or neither.

Surcouf
01-26-2010, 12:01 PM
2nd set: Murray 43 points, Nadal 39

Murray also had 4bps at 5-5.

Only because of the tiebreak. That's all.

Nadal dominated the second set and Murray was lucky to win it. Nadal is injured and has no confidence. He just can't win a close set anymore because he does not feel good.

simplet
01-26-2010, 12:02 PM
Can someone check on Mad World? Im afraid he might do something stupid.

Surcouf seems to have lost it too, poor guy...

Andi-M
01-26-2010, 12:02 PM
RAFAwonCYGS on suicide watch

:spit:

Excellent performance from andy just superb best ever!!! He looked like he was gonna win from the 1st point on, never lost focus, kept rebreaking after being broken clutch stuff!!!

Rafa's injury was not there in 1st 2 sets and he still lost them soo imo Murays victory is 1000% legit. I feel for Rafa I do like him, but I think it would be nice if he could do what he did in Rotterdam and just let Murray play his matchpoint.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 12:02 PM
Rafa always retires when he knows he has no chance- the guys a complete pussy

You must be thinking of someone else. He has 6 retirals now in 492 atp level matches, a very low level (for example, PHM is 16 in 555, 2.4x as often).

Sophocles
01-26-2010, 12:03 PM
Only because of the tiebreak. That's all.

Nadal dominated the second set and Murray was lucky to win it. Nadal is injured and has no confidence. He just can't win a close set anymore because he does not feel good.

Sorry, this is a celebration thread. Nobody gives a shit about your whining bollocks. Got it?

gorgo1986
01-26-2010, 12:03 PM
I am one of the biggest Rafa fans around!(I do not like Murray) I support Rafa and will always support him but he simply got outplayed today. He could not consolidate any of his break point chances, Andy played all the big points like the better(more confident) player. He was the better player and he won the match. In the third set Rafa injured his knee(which has always been a problem for him and which is the one thing that everyone knows that can take him out of the game for good.), so there was no point for Rafa to continue and risk his career for three games that he would have not won. I am happy that he retired, it was the right thing to do, when it comes to his knees he should not risk his career. No matter what anyone says no one would want the player they support to play on with such an injury and threaten their career. With that said, Andy played a much better match in the first two sets he outplayed Rafa and he deserved the win. Congrats to Andy and his fans.

superslam77
01-26-2010, 12:03 PM
Nadal has probably the worst luck of any top player.

His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.

He is maybe done for tennis. He is the greatest tennisplayer I have seen when healthy but it seems that he can't get back to a good shape physically.

:confused:

Nadal is very lucky to have lasted so long with that retrieving style...remember Coria and others that didn't last anything?

RogerFan82
01-26-2010, 12:05 PM
You are a ****. Go back sucking Federer's dick you fucking nuthugger.

Take a chill pill dude.

superslam77
01-26-2010, 12:05 PM
Yes, plagued.

I have the feeling that Nadal would have had 2-3 slams in addition by now, with having only as much injuries as the other players.

you really don't understand...

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 12:05 PM
Nadal dominated the second set and Murray was lucky to win it.

The tiebreak is part of the set.

That set, Murray also won 69% points on serve to Nadal's 64%. He hit 1 more winner, made 3 less UEs, and had 5 bps to Nadal's 2.

KolyaLegend
01-26-2010, 12:06 PM
Nadull competing with Del Mugtro for the faker of the tournament award:worship:

Nolby
01-26-2010, 12:06 PM
I am one of the biggest Rafa fans around!(I do not like Murray) I support him and will always support him but he simply got outplayed today. He could not consolidate any of his break point chances, Andy played all the big points like he should. He was the better player and he won the match. In the third set Rafa injured his knee(which has always been a problem for him and which is the one thing that everyone knows can take him out of the game for good.), so there was no point for Rafa to risk his career for three games that he would have not won. I am happy that he retired, it was the right thing to do, when it comes to his knees he should not risk his career. No matter what anyone says no one would want the player they support to play on with such an injury and threaten their career. With all that said, Andy played a much better match in the first two sets he outplayed Rafa and he deserved the win. Congrats to his fans.

Thanks for showing so much class! :worship: Hope Rafa will be ok.

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:06 PM
Dude, you need to admit I was right about Murray's serve :lol:

Hell yeah. Guy looked like Sampras out there on first serve tonight. I have always said that if he plays these tactics regularlly he will win slams. Rediculous he only does this against Rafa. When he serve and volleys on first serves it makes his first serve even bigger.

I am starting to think Andy has a dopplegagger that he brings out of the closet just to play Rafa. I want a DNA test!

Commander Data
01-26-2010, 12:07 PM
The haters out in full force..tztz..

I'm sure Rafa had a serious problem otherwise he would have fighted till the end.
Anyway, Murray was the better player today. Impressive performance by him. Nole or Fed are the only ones that have enough game to stop him now. murray booked for the final if you ask me.

mseles1
01-26-2010, 12:08 PM
'He looked like he was gonna win from the 1st point on.' He went 0-15.
Awful match. No-heart's aces as exciting as it got. His luck truly is well up there with Federer's and Graf's. Third 'win' over Nadal, perhaps one day he'll actually beat him.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 12:08 PM
youre fanboy yourself so why trying to make it sound like insult, you twat :lol:here you go son, pass them around when Foxy, RAFAwonCYGS, Logical, mad world, Rafa = Fed Killa arrive

http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/Facial_Tissue_Box2.jpg

JanKowalski
01-26-2010, 12:08 PM
Yes, plagued.

I have the feeling that Nadal would have had 2-3 slams in addition by now, with having only as much injuries as the other players.

The source of his injuries is his style of play, which is also the source of his success. Your post is illogical.

habibko
01-26-2010, 12:09 PM
Nadal pulled a young Djokovic :haha:

exactly, he should be ashamed of himself, even Djokovic grew up from this :smash:

dodo
01-26-2010, 12:09 PM
Can someone check on Mad World? Im afraid he might do something stupid.

here's hoping!

zeleni
01-26-2010, 12:09 PM
Someone should bump thread about Djokovic's retirement last year versus Roddick, just to compare with some tard's comments from this thread.

Dyraise
01-26-2010, 12:09 PM
What a shame. If he could he would stay for three more games.
This.
Murray was clearly the best, good for him :dance:.

mseles1
01-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Injuries - Nadal brain dead when it comes to scheduling. Confirmed again in Oz, he's gonna play Monte, Barca, Rome and Madrid. Ever learn?

sammy01
01-26-2010, 12:12 PM
im not sure how much nadal's knee/s are actually effecting him or whether it is becoming more a psychosomatic way of dealing with getting beat all to often now.

i thought nadal played a very good 2nd set but muraay came up with the goods when it mattered. murray played pretty good tennis and hit his crosscourt backhand very well.

Langers
01-26-2010, 12:12 PM
Murray way, way too good tonight.

Baghdatis72
01-26-2010, 12:13 PM
MTF never fails to deliver hours of laughter after a big match :haha:

Nadal was outplayed and retired as soon as he got the 1st excuse.

Jade Fox
01-26-2010, 12:13 PM
Sucks it had to end like that. Hope Rafa's not too hurt and he's just being cautious.

With that said, Murray was winning this match. Everytime it looked like Rafa was sending a message to Murray, Andy answered right back. Good job.

And anyone else find it weird that Rafa's a trending topic on Twitter right now? I know he's popular but wow.

angry1
01-26-2010, 12:14 PM
Murray won the first 2 sets fair and square.He has made a right pig's ear of playing injured opponent's before,so I reckon he was more relieved Rafa retired than sad not to win "properly".

Do you think anybody but some petty Rafa fans will care how Murray got there if he wins his first slam?

No way.

p.s. Murray's knee problem(bipartite patella,causing him pain when changing surfaces) is congenital,Rafa's is due to his playing style, which is more fairly considered unlucky?

tkr
01-26-2010, 12:16 PM
Injuries - Nadal brain dead when it comes to scheduling. Confirmed again in Oz, he's gonna play Monte, Barca, Rome and Madrid. Ever learn?


Look at him...have you ever believed anything different?

He's in it for th dough, but that's ok when he's on the verge of retireing...

Clydey
01-26-2010, 12:17 PM
So now Murray has all the presure to win the whole thing when he has never won a slam and his matches are.....

Anderson
Gicuel
Isner
Rafa default

I think that is a little unfair but whatever. It will be interesting now how he handles they pressure now since technically he did not beat Rafa. Not sayin he was not going to just that he did not face match points.

And he got a bye in the 3rd round, it seems.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 12:18 PM
By the way, everyone's assuming it's the same knee problem as usual, but he actually said to the trainer it's different from his longterm issues.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 12:18 PM
this result enhances Fed's chance of losing to Denko as he & Nadal have a habit of following each other out of events

wackykid
01-26-2010, 12:19 PM
p.s. Murray's knee problem(bipartite patella,causing him pain when changing surfaces) is congenital,Rafa's is due to his playing style, which is more fairly considered unlucky?

if there is a cause (i.e. playing style) for the injury... then it's no longer luck...

injuries due to luck... i'd think it'll be due to external factors which nobody can control but luck....


regards,
wacky

paseo
01-26-2010, 12:19 PM
Too good from Murray tonight. He ran Nadal into the ground. I don't see anyone left in the draw that can stop him except an in-form Federer.
I'm sorry, but Cilic, Davydenko, Tsonga or even an in-form Djokovic is no match for this Murray. If Fed doesn't make it to the final, then watch Murray win his first slam. Mark my words.

angry1
01-26-2010, 12:20 PM
if there is a cause (i.e. playing style) for the injury... then it's no longer luck...

injuries due to luck... i'd think it'll be due to external factors which nobody can control but luck....


regards,
wacky

I agree.

scoobs
01-26-2010, 12:20 PM
And he got a bye in the 3rd round, it seems.
he played Florent Serra, it's as good as. Bye > Serra

Rumour
01-26-2010, 12:20 PM
The difference between a fan...
I am one of the biggest Rafa fans around!(I do not like Murray) I support Rafa and will always support him but he simply got outplayed today. He could not consolidate any of his break point chances, Andy played all the big points like the better(more confident) player. He was the better player and he won the match. In the third set Rafa injured his knee(which has always been a problem for him and which is the one thing that everyone knows that can take him out of the game for good.), so there was no point for Rafa to continue and risk his career for three games that he would have not won. I am happy that he retired, it was the right thing to do, when it comes to his knees he should not risk his career. No matter what anyone says no one would want the player they support to play on with such an injury and threaten their career. With that said, Andy played a much better match in the first two sets he outplayed Rafa and he deserved the win. Congrats to Andy and his fans.:yeah:

...and a tard:
Nadal has probably the worst luck of any top player.

His career has been plagued by injuries and it continues. He dominated Murray during the second set, while being injured, and lost it on pure bad luck.

He is maybe done for tennis. He is the greatest tennisplayer I have seen when healthy but it seems that he can't get back to a good shape physically.:ras:

rocketassist
01-26-2010, 12:22 PM
BRILLIANT. :woohoo: :banana:

Murray battered Nadal first set, second set was a little sloppy from both but who was it who stepped it back up in the TB? Wasn't Rafito. Then came the 'injury', you know the one that was there in the entirety of US Open 08 and Rotterdam 09. :haha:

Rafael Nadal, a player whose game is not to my taste, but someone I respected as a warrior and a man. That has now gone. Absolute cowardly faking fucker.

tenalyser
01-26-2010, 12:22 PM
Murray had Nadal on the ropes and the Spaniard knew that it was over, I don't buy the so called injury excuse.

off topic :When did Jim courrier become so effeminate ? It's kind of creepy when you think about it

elessar
01-26-2010, 12:24 PM
And he got a bye in the 3rd round, it seems.
Yep, so disrespectful to the great Florent Serra :(

So much crap in this thread it's crazy. Great mind games Rafito, really threw Murray for a loop with that time-out, grabbing the set was a piece of cake after that. Oh wait...

superslam77
01-26-2010, 12:25 PM
Nadal needs to take a break from the game, permanently.

:spit: :haha:

Beat
01-26-2010, 12:25 PM
classic MTF thread: stupid analyses, homophobic and misogynistic remarks, internet tough guy behaviour, awkward semantics, slurring and insulting.

truly saddening.

tennis2tennis
01-26-2010, 12:26 PM
this result enhances Fed's chance of losing to Denko as he & Nadal have a habit of following each other out of events
;)

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 12:26 PM
from mighty Spanish Bull to little lamb when the Scotsman got hold of him :cool:

ryan23
01-26-2010, 12:27 PM
MTF never fails to deliver hours of laughter after a big match :haha:

Nadal was outplayed and retired as soon as he got the 1st excuse.

Spot on

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:27 PM
Jim in the past has been very good at hiding his sexuality but in the past year ........Its rainin men Halleluya, Its rainin men etc....you know the rest.

He has a little bit of a rep in the Miami night club scene.

Voo de Mar
01-26-2010, 12:28 PM
Jim in the past has been very good at hiding his sexuality but in the past year

:confused: Are you talking about Courier?

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:28 PM
classic MTF thread: stupid analyses, homophobic and misogynistic remarks, internet tough guy behaviour, awkward semantics, slurring and insulting.

truly saddening.

Back off man. Wheres those hands! :eek:

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:29 PM
:confused: Are you talking about Courier?

yup, back on topic

sammy01
01-26-2010, 12:30 PM
Jim in the past has been very good at hiding his sexuality but in the past year ........Its rainin men Halleluya, Its rainin men etc....you know the rest.

He has a little bit of a rep in the Miami night club scene.

he is surely a passive bottom the way he is doing these interviews and bending over to praise the top guys lol

redda2
01-26-2010, 12:30 PM
Murray was dominating before Nadal got injured.

Would've won no matter what.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 12:30 PM
He was suspiciously flirty with Davy, it has to be said. Then again, who can blame him.

Voo de Mar
01-26-2010, 12:31 PM
yup, back on topic

SOrry, maybe I lost a thread but why do you mention his sexuality?

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:33 PM
Somebody brought up his lovy dovey feminine interviews.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 12:34 PM
Murray was dominating before Nadal got injured.

Would've won no matter what.yep, well maybe not dominating... but had the edge and was on top

its misleading that "injured" is in the title of this thread

as usual Nadal opponent gets no credit for beating him :zzz:

enigma
01-26-2010, 12:35 PM
well done Muzza

Audacity
01-26-2010, 12:36 PM
Brilliant play from Murray, hope it's not too serious for Nadal.

MariaV
01-26-2010, 12:36 PM
this result enhances Fed's chance of losing to Denko as he & Nadal have a habit of following each other out of events

Oh STFU, Fed was in the last 3 GS finals without Rafa. :rolleyes: :D :kiss:
And still managed to lose the USO, nearly even lost Wimbledon. :p

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:37 PM
this tournament sucks. every potential good match ends in a default or blowout and every five setter is a choking contest or umpire bullsh1t, Hear I finally thought we would get that one definitive match that would define this touney and it was not to be.

Has to be the most unsatisfying Aussie in 10 years for me.

Voo de Mar
01-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Somebody brought up his lovy dovey feminine interviews.

I noticed that he steps in interviewee's intimacy zone but I'm not convinced it attests his homosexual disposition.

RogerFan82
01-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Nadal took the shine of Murray's achievment by retiring. Here is why. Anyone who watched the match today knows that murray outplayed rafa in the 1st 2 sets.

But those who didn't watch the match and just read the newspaper/internet headline tomorrow, will see something like "Nadal retires. Murray through to Semifinals". This is misleading and they will falsely assume that Nadal was injured throughout the match and will consider Murray's victory as not legit.

Whereas if Nadal has played out three more games, the newspaper/internet headline will not mention the injury on the headline. They will just mention it in the write up that nadal tweaked his leg in the 3rd set. Therefore people who did not watch the match get a clearer picture of what actually happened. (i.e. Murray outplayed nadal)

But because nadal retired , this match will not be remembered for murray's great transition game rather it will be classified as a non-legit victory acquired by retirement.

green25814
01-26-2010, 12:42 PM
Nadal took the shine of Murray's achievment by retiring. Here is why. Anyone who watched the match today knows that murray outplayed rafa in the 1st 2 sets.

But those who didn't watch the match and just read the newspaper/internet headline tomorrow, will see something like "Nadal retires. Murray through to Semifinals". This is misleading and they will falsely assume that Nadal was injured throughout the match and will consider Murray's victory as not legit.

Whereas if Nadal has played out three more games, the newspaper/internet headline will not mention the injury on the headline. They will just mention it in the write up that nadal tweaked his leg in the 3rd set. Therefore people who did not watch the match get a clearer picture of what actually happened. (i.e. Murray outplayed nadal)

But because nadal retired , this match will not be remembered for murray's great transition game rather it will be classified as a non-legit victory acquired by retirement.

Yeah. Its a shame, but I doubt Murray will care.

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:42 PM
Andy is lucky. He never would have won today is Rafa didnt give it to him.

angry1
01-26-2010, 12:42 PM
Nadal took the shine of Murray's achievment by retiring. Here is why. Anyone who watched the match today knows that murray outplayed rafa in the 1st 2 sets.

But those who didn't watch the match and just read the newspaper/internet headline tomorrow, will see something like "Nadal retires. Murray through to Semifinals". This is misleading and they will falsely assume that Nadal was injured throughout the match and will consider Murray's victory as not legit.

Whereas if Nadal has played out three more games, the newspaper/internet headline will not mention the injury on the headline. They will just mention it in the write up that nadal tweaked his leg in the 3rd set. Therefore people who did not watch the match get a clearer picture of what actually happened. (i.e. Murray outplayed nadal)

But because nadal retired , this match will not be remembered for murray's great transition game rather it will be classified as a non-legit victory acquired by retirement.

Had Nadal played on I was expecting the match to be headlined by "Murray makes a meal of finishing off injured Nadal".

Only much snappier,obviously.

MsTree
01-26-2010, 12:43 PM
Andy is lucky. He never would have won today is Rafa didnt give it to him.

:lol:

sammy01
01-26-2010, 12:43 PM
Nadal took the shine of Murray's achievment by retiring. Here is why. Anyone who watched the match today knows that murray outplayed rafa in the 1st 2 sets.

But those who didn't watch the match and just read the newspaper/internet headline tomorrow, will see something like "Nadal retires. Murray through to Semifinals". This is misleading and they will falsely assume that Nadal was injured throughout the match and will consider Murray's victory as not legit.

Whereas if Nadal has played out three more games, the newspaper/internet headline will not mention the injury on the headline. They will just mention it in the write up that nadal tweaked his leg in the 3rd set. Therefore people who did not watch the match get a clearer picture of what actually happened. (i.e. Murray outplayed nadal)

But because nadal retired , this match will not be remembered for murray's great transition game rather it will be classified as a non-legit victory acquired by retirement.

well discreditting an opponents win by retiring or getting injury timeouts is rife on the womens tour. lets hope it doesn't become a pandemic on the ATP tour to.

manadrainer
01-26-2010, 12:43 PM
RafaDidNotWinCYGS!

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Must be cause he lost the 1st set. He is 87-1 in GS when he wins first set!

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 12:44 PM
Andy is lucky. He never would have won today is Rafa didnt give it to him.you know what, just get the hell outta here

:lol:

angry1
01-26-2010, 12:44 PM
Andy is lucky. He never would have won today is Rafa didnt give it to him.

I predicted Nadal in four,no need to get so upset about getting your prediction completely wrong.It doesn't bother me that I messed mine up.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 12:45 PM
RafaDidNotWinCYGS!

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Must be cause he lost the 1st set. He is 87-1 in GS when he wins first set!

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

oh what a day

Nadal slapped by Murray and Roddick out in 5, i love myself :cool:

mseles1
01-26-2010, 12:45 PM
'as usual Nadal opponent gets no credit for beating him' - nor should he.
It was reported after his victory over Karlovic, Nadal was suffering with his knees, injury isn't made up sadly. Murray fans; the wait continues for a 'win' over the Spaniard.

Xristos
01-26-2010, 12:46 PM
this tournament sucks. every potential good match ends in a default or blowout and every five setter is a choking contest or umpire bullsh1t, Hear I finally thought we would get that one definitive match that would define this touney and it was not to be.

Has to be the most unsatisfying Aussie in 10 years for me.

Could not agree more.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 12:46 PM
It was reported after his victory over Karlovic, Nadal was suffering with his knees,


Clearly incorrect, cos Nadal said to the trainer he's had no pain all tournament, it was new in the 2nd set today.

Okonsky
01-26-2010, 12:47 PM
Oh STFU, Fed was in the last 3 GS finals without Rafa. :rolleyes: :D :kiss:
And still managed to lose the USO, nearly even lost Wimbledon. :p

:worship:

Exactly the same as at AUS Open 2010:cool:

Guga_fan
01-26-2010, 12:52 PM
Couldn't watch the match (for some reason the cable was not working), but expected the result, Nadal was never going to win this tournament, he was even broken by Karlovic...

No set lost by Murray yet, I don't think Cilic can trouble him, especially after 2 consecutive 5 setters.

mseles1
01-26-2010, 12:55 PM
Clearly incorrect, cos Nadal said to the trainer he's had no pain all tournament, it was new in the 2nd set today.

In England we read broadsheets not just tabloids, it's fact. You must have great ears because I certainly didn't hear Nadal say anything of the kind. Murray given another win sadly.

brithater
01-26-2010, 12:57 PM
I predicted Nadal in four,no need to get so upset about getting your prediction completely wrong.It doesn't bother me that I messed mine up.

Murray is the best player on tour right now. Best mover on tour in terms of speed and explosiveness. Fittest player on the tour. Best volleys on the tour. Best return of serve. Smartest player. Best backhand down the line which is a devistating for both Nadal and Federer. This is Murrays tournamnet. He is a supreme hard court player to anyone else in the tournament.

It doesnt really matter who he plays in the tournament as it is his for the taking. He has been tested with quality tour players such as Isner, Giquel, and Anderson and passed with flying colors. Rafa and Fed had too be watching those matches to look for weaknesses in the murray arsenal. I am sure they were disapointed though because he has proven to be the most in form player this tournament. While Federer and Nadal were struggleing with lesser players like Andreev and Kholschrieber, Andy was out there blasting monsters like Isner of the court....Isner! Federer and Nadal are great players but Feds performance lately clearly shows that much of his weapondry is gone and he lack the desire to take chances (evident in that US Open final). Nadal is nowhere near the form he was last year and he has shown to not handle these types of matches well when hes not 100%. Andy will Win here and Wimbledon and finish the year #1 Federer and Nadal will always be a threat in Majors and should not be forgotton for their accomplishments but this is clearly Andys year to take over.

the King is dead, long live the King.:wavey:

rocketassist
01-26-2010, 12:58 PM
Clearly incorrect, cos Nadal said to the trainer he's had no pain all tournament, it was new in the 2nd set today.

In England we read broadsheets not just tabloids, it's fact. You must have great ears because I certainly didn't hear Nadal say anything of the kind. Murray given another win sadly.

I think you will find they read tabloids mostly cause most Brits, like you are thick as pigshit.

US Open 2008 was a gifted win an' all....

angry1
01-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Murray is the best player on tour right now. Best mover on tour in terms of speed and explosiveness. Fittest player on the tour. Best volleys on the tour. Best return of serve. Smartest player. Best backhand down the line which is a devistating for both Nadal and Federer. This is Murrays tournamnet. He is a supreme hard court player to anyone else in the tournament.

It doesnt really matter who he plays in the tournament as it is his for the taking. He has been tested with quality tour players such as Isner, Giquel, and Anderson and passed with flying colors. Rafa and Fed had too be watching those matches to look for weaknesses in the murray arsenal. I am sure they were disapointed though because he has proven to be the most in form player this tournament. While Federer and Nadal were struggleing with lesser players like Andreev and Kholschrieber, Andy was out there blasting monsters like Isner of the court....Isner! Federer and Nadal are great players but Feds performance lately clearly shows that much of his weapondry is gone and he lack the desire to take chances (evident in that US Open final). Nadal is nowhere near the form he was last year and he has shown to not handle these types of matches well when hes not 100%. Andy will Win here and Wimbledon and finish the year #1 Federer and Nadal will always be a threat in Majors and should not be forgotton for their accomplishments but this is clearly Andys year to take over.

the King is dead, long live the King.:wavey:

Very witty,you're perfecting this now aren't you?

Bazooka
01-26-2010, 01:02 PM
Nadal was in no condition to win this, no matter how many sets they played Andy would won them all.

The sad thing is his game is not that bad. Sure he has played better in the past, but the problem is not technical or physiscal. The problem is, you watch him attempting a comeback and you *know* he is going to make mistakes in the big points and blow it all.

rubbERR
01-26-2010, 01:05 PM
this tournament sucks. every potential good match ends in a default or blowout and every five setter is a choking contest or umpire bullsh1t, Hear I finally thought we would get that one definitive match that would define this touney and it was not to be.

Has to be the most unsatisfying Aussie in 10 years for me.

5 set match = up and downs, you have no clue...its normal that there is mental breakdowns

Clydey
01-26-2010, 01:07 PM
Andy is lucky. He never would have won today is Rafa didnt give it to him.

You were wrong. Get over it.

Sean
01-26-2010, 01:12 PM
I cant beliveve Nadal pulled that stunt, always tired, or injured when he loses to Murray. Never outplyed. If Nadall was 2 sets up he'd been sprinting around like Usain Bolt, but no he loses 1st 2 sets and suddenly he is injured. Take it like a man Nadal.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 01:13 PM
fat Muzzatard Ricky Hatton in crowd :lol:

FedFan
01-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Well played, Murray. ;)

Disappointed in Nadal, who showed bad sportmanship by retiring after being dominated by the Scot.

Clydey
01-26-2010, 01:14 PM
RAFAEL NADAL

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Could you let us know what the condition is, what the latest story is with the knee. It's very unusual for you to stop during a match.

RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, well, is not a lot of history because was during the match. Was in the end of the second set in one drop. And I feeled similar thing to what I had last year.

And, yes, after that I can't go down after that, no? So was impossible to win the match. When I have the chance to play, I never retired. Anyway, like I know I going to lose like I did in Rotterdam like last year. I say sorry to Andy for that.

I felt pain still there without no one minimum chance to do nothing, the same time is hard for me be five more games there without try nothing, no? So I don't know if I still playing can go worst or something. So I said, well, no repeat the same mistake like I had last year. I go to the limit, but not cross the limit, no?

Q. Was that the most aggressive he's played against you?

RAFAEL NADAL: Andy played really well I think. I think he's at unbelievable level, no? That may be with how I did too. I think my level was very high today, too. I had big chances. I had big chances to win both sets. And I think against probably the player who is playing better right now, I was very close.

So I go out from this tournament very happy about my level because the perspective is much better right now than two or three months ago, no, when I lost in the Masters Cup. All the matches, in that matches, I didn't see one no way to play again my tennis. Now I am playing another time at my best level. Today I think was amazing match first two sets. Both, I think we played really well. And I have the chances.

He served ‑‑ his serve was unbelievable with my chances, with the 30‑All, with the Love‑30, with the breakpoints. Just congratulate him because he's doing really well, and I think he gonna has a big chance to win this tournament.

Q. Is it the same sort of injury?

RAFAEL NADAL: I say before yes.

Q. Does it feel worse or the same?

RAFAEL NADAL: Worst?

Q. Does it feel as bad as it did last year?

RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know, no? Is happen few minutes ago, no?

Q. It happened the end of the second set?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yes.

Q. You were talking about your level of play today. When do you think you last played as confidently and as well as you were doing for the first two sets?

RAFAEL NADAL: I think last time was here last year.

Q. Here last year?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. Because after that I played well few matches in Indian Wells. But after that started the pain. And after the pain, I didn't play bad, but far away from this level, no? I worked a lot at home. Lot of months working to play at this level now.

For sure for me is little bit disappointing have the pain on the knee because I think I am very close to start winning these important matches, no? And I think I gonna do soon.

Q. Are there any changes you're going to make to your training style or your playing style?

RAFAEL NADAL: Don't start, guys, with these questions right now. I think is not the right moment. I think I changed the style to play. If you see my matches 2005 or 2004, 2006, I run a lot compared to now, no?

So today I played against one of the best players of the world, and I think I wasn't run more than him. So I played aggressive. I played having the control of the point, a lot of the time with the forehand and the backhand, too, returning aggressive. If you see my matches three years ago, that's didn't happen, no?

Remember, we are playing on hard courts. Probably in this surface I have to play my best tennis, like today, if I really want to have chances to win. If not, then the opponents, there are really good players, and Andy's unbelievable. He's playing really well. You know, with these matches, I think I was very close today. But just little bit more calm when I had the break.

Q. How confident can you be that your knee problems are going to suddenly stop?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I worked a lot. I didn't have lot of problems for the last six months. And today is the first time, no? I felt something when I think is a bad movement. But is not, you know, because the knee is tired or has been a bad movement or gesture.

No, I think going to be okay.

Q. You know what it takes to win this tournament. You won it last year. What will it take for Andy to win it?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I think for sure he has a big chance, no? I think is a very good chance for him. First thing, he's playing really well. And second thing, he's already in semifinals. So is only two matches away.

Every Grand Slam is special and every Grand Slam is important to win. For Andy, I think he deserve to win his first Grand Slam, and he gonna do it.

Q. Are you worried how long your knee might keep you out?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, no.

Q. You don't think it will keep you out for a long time?

RAFAEL NADAL: I repeat: I said before, I think is impossible to me to know after half an hour.

Q. Apart from the serve, what was Andy doing particularly well tonight that perhaps you hadn't seen before in past matches?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I think he played more aggressive than what he did the last matches. He did really well. He was serving really well in important moments. He played aggressive. He played aggressive with both shots, forehand and backhand. He went to the net a few times, serve and volley.

So I said before the match, no, he's a very complete player. He has a lot of chances to do it during the match, and that's very important because you have different options when the match is complicated. You have different options to do.

zcess81
01-26-2010, 01:16 PM
Injury or no injury Murray would have won today. Rafa is just a shadow of his former self, and has been since his last clay court masters win, which was long long time ago.

sammy01
01-26-2010, 01:17 PM
Breaking News - murray just got congratulated and approved of beating nadal on loose women, forget winning a slam the boy has made it. :worship:

mseles1
01-26-2010, 01:18 PM
waiting... Long wait then, Algeria's more appealing. 'Thick' as an insult from a yank, oh the irony.
Notice that insult didn't receive a warning, English and no Murray fan perhaps?

Azurebi
01-26-2010, 01:19 PM
Rafa is too realistic than being a man.

"being a man" is an American idea. They won't do unmanly thing like Rafa or Djoko (last year) did.
Look at Roddick today. He did a man, dragged/being dragged to the 5th and completed the match although he was obviously injured his shoulder.

Azurebi
01-26-2010, 01:20 PM
Breaking News - murray just got congratulated and approved of beating nadal on loose women, forget winning a slam the boy has made it. :worship:

who are "loose women"?

Certinfy
01-26-2010, 01:21 PM
who is "loose women"?
It's a TV show in the UK ;)

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 01:21 PM
where are all the famous Nadal fanboys?

oh well the day is young i suppose

SwiSha
01-26-2010, 01:21 PM
well done Andrew, no win this thing

Azurebi
01-26-2010, 01:22 PM
oh, thanks.

sammy01
01-26-2010, 01:23 PM
It's a TV show in the UK ;)

it is pure quality from the begining to end lol

Clydey
01-26-2010, 01:23 PM
Injury or no injury Murray would have won today. Rafa is just a shadow of his former self, and has been since his last clay court masters win, which was long long time ago.

Not according to Nadal. He said that he played at a very high level. In fact, the best since this time last year.

Sean
01-26-2010, 01:23 PM
Is that Harry Kewell bird still on it :hearts:

Del_Toro
01-26-2010, 01:24 PM
What a quitter is this so-called "spartan" warrior :o

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:24 PM
You were wrong. Get over it.

Whatever you have no clue. Murray Is a hack and will never win anything.Federer and Nadal are the true champions on tour. Andy Murray could only win this if if Cilic defaults and Whoever else in the finals chokes worse than Murray. Murray has no game and never will. His matches against nadall are a fluke. Its like when Federer plays Hewitt. Rafa cant beat Andy in a Major when he is hurt. If Rafa was 100% today he would have straight setted Murray. He got hurt in the first set when he had three break points 40-0. If he wouldnt have hurt his knee he would be in the Semifinal. The only way Murray wins big matches is if the opponent is hurt. If he beats Cilic its because Marion is physically spent after battleing and beating real players like Delpotro and Tomic, Not hacks like Isner and a crippled Nadal. Get real man and stop being a fanboy.:rolleyes:

Sophocles
01-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Nadal's interview is encouraging. He's right, he did play well, & could have won either of the first 2 sets. He just ran into an on-fire, tactically astute Murray who was clutch on the big points.

Bibberz
01-26-2010, 01:25 PM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8491/ttgj9.gif

Muzza played better and deserved the win. Hopefully he can take out Fed in the final.

Nadal's interview is encouraging. He's right, he did play well, & could have won either of the first 2 sets. He just ran into an on-fire, tactically astute Murray who was clutch on the big points.

Yup.

Hola Mr. SK
01-26-2010, 01:26 PM
unreal,my faves are in hard time...

Take the title now Muzza.

Clydey
01-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Whatever you have no clue. Murray Is a hack and will never win anything.Federer and Nadal are the true champions on tour. Andy Murray could only win this if if Cilic defaults and Whoever else in the finals chokes worse than Murray. Murray has no game and never will. His matches against nadall are a fluke. Its like when Federer plays Hewitt. Rafa cant beat Andy in a Major when he is hurt. If Rafa was 100% today he would have straight setted Murray. He got hurt in the first set when he had three break points 40-0. If he wouldnt have hurt his knee he would be in the Semifinal. The only way Murray wins big matches is if the opponent is hurt. If he beats Cilic its because Marion is physically spent after battleing and beating real players like Delpotro and Tomic, Not hacks like Isner and a crippled Nadal. Get real man and stop being a fanboy.:rolleyes:

Nadal said he got hurt at the end of the second set.

Your mask is slipping. I knew you couldn't keep it on. You've revealed yourself as a troll.

barbadosan
01-26-2010, 01:29 PM
'as usual Nadal opponent gets no credit for beating him' - nor should he.
It was reported after his victory over Karlovic, Nadal was suffering with his knees, injury isn't made up sadly. Murray fans; the wait continues for a 'win' over the Spaniard.

Q. How confident can you be that your knee problems are going to suddenly stop?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I worked a lot. I didn't have lot of problems for the last six months. And today is the first time, no? I felt something when I think is a bad movement. But is not, you know, because the knee is tired or has been a bad movement or gesture.

Looks like you read the wrong reports :rolleyes:

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:34 PM
Nadal said he got hurt at the end of the second set.

Your mask is slipping. I knew you couldn't keep it on. You've revealed yourself as a troll.


Whatever. You dont know Tennis.

I know tennis

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 01:36 PM
wonder if it was when Murray hit that return and Nadal fell on his ass

sammy01
01-26-2010, 01:37 PM
Whatever. You dont know Tennis.

I know tennis

this has to be the most schoolground post ever on TF, and theres some stiff competition.

i seriously hope you are playing upto being a pillock and not actually like this really.

Clydey
01-26-2010, 01:39 PM
Whatever. You dont know Tennis.

I know tennis

That's a new low. :lol:

Fuck me, mate, feel free to grow up any time now. You're embarrassing yourself.

rocketassist
01-26-2010, 01:40 PM
Outplayed.

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:41 PM
Sometimes there needs to be some humor injected into this lunacy. After 4 or 5 pages all these threads turn into play ground trash talk.

Logical
01-26-2010, 01:42 PM
Matador's tender knees are what keeping tennis still interesting. The only way Muggay could of won today.

Baghdatis72
01-26-2010, 01:43 PM
I wonder how long will Rafa keep going with these repeating injuries. At some point he will either have to put less strain on his legs or retire because of the damage. Playing the way he did the last few years got him to number 1 but it might have shortened his career as a result.

Commander Data
01-26-2010, 01:44 PM
Whatever you have no clue. Murray Is a hack and will never win anything.Federer and Nadal are the true champions on tour. Andy Murray could only win this if if Cilic defaults and Whoever else in the finals chokes worse than Murray. Murray has no game and never will. His matches against nadall are a fluke. Its like when Federer plays Hewitt. Rafa cant beat Andy in a Major when he is hurt. If Rafa was 100% today he would have straight setted Murray. He got hurt in the first set when he had three break points 40-0. If he wouldnt have hurt his knee he would be in the Semifinal. The only way Murray wins big matches is if the opponent is hurt. If he beats Cilic its because Marion is physically spent after battleing and beating real players like Delpotro and Tomic, Not hacks like Isner and a crippled Nadal. Get real man and stop being a fanboy.:rolleyes:

Whatever you take. it is not doing any good for you.

rocketassist
01-26-2010, 01:44 PM
Matador's tender knees are what keeping tennis still interesting. The only way Muggay could of won today.

Outplayed. :wavey:

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:44 PM
That's a new low. :lol:

Fuck me, mate, feel free to grow up any time now. You're embarrassing yourself.

Whatever. You just a stupid Llama. Llamas cant even play tennis. Name me one good Liama tennis player in the last century. All your good for is spitting and shitting. Both of which you do on my thought provoking in depth posts contiuoussly because you dont have fingers.

FedFan
01-26-2010, 01:44 PM
It might not make the victory sweeter, but it'd show some integrity.

Why am I talking about integrity here?

:worship: Some seem also to forget the public, who has paid to watch a whole match and celebrate a real winner.

Logical
01-26-2010, 01:45 PM
Outplayed. :wavey:

Outplayed by the dreaded right knee, once again.

rocketassist
01-26-2010, 01:46 PM
Outplayed by the dreaded right knee, once again.

For three games. :awww:

Xenosys
01-26-2010, 01:47 PM
That's a new low. :lol:

Fuck me, mate, feel free to grow up any time now. You're embarrassing yourself.

Not only embarrassing but also contradicts himself within a matter of minutes. States one minute that Murray had played a "...wonderfully tactical match", and should now go on and win the tournament using that very strategy, and then moments later accuses him of being a choking hack, not capable of winning anything.

Logical
01-26-2010, 01:47 PM
For three games. :awww:

From the second set. :sad:

rocketassist
01-26-2010, 01:49 PM
From the end of the second set. :sad:

Corrected.

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:49 PM
I wonder how long will Rafa keep going with these repeating injuries. At some point he will either have to put less strain on his legs or retire because of the damage. Playing the way he did the last few years got him to number 1 but it might have shortened his career as a result.

It will be interesting because it seems that its going to continue. The guy looses half his year to injuries and hes what 23? Dont see this going away anytime soon. He is going to have to play a lot less or adapt a completely new style. Last year it looked like he was trying to take some weight off his upper body, maybe to lesson the strain, but this year he looks huge again. Not sure how he gets out of this.

MsTree
01-26-2010, 01:50 PM
From the end of the second set. Which was precisely three games. If he was hurting before, why didn't he call the trainer at the end of the second set?

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:51 PM
Not only embarrassing but also contradicts himself within a matter of minutes. States one minute that Murray had played a "...wonderfully tactical match", and should now go on and win the tournament using that very strategy, and then moments later accuses him of being a choking hack, not capable of winning anything.


Read, Think, Post. That is the order. You forgot a few steps

mickymouse
01-26-2010, 01:52 PM
Another straights sets loss against a top 10 player...but on a SLOW surface this time. No wonder the knee starts to hurt.:lol:

mark73
01-26-2010, 01:53 PM
here's hoping!

your hoping that a person will commit suicide. You should be banned.

Vida
01-26-2010, 01:53 PM
what a shame for nadal's injury. we shall see, but those accusing him of faking will be forced by events to eat their words in case he misses tournaments again on account of injury.

overall it was a quality, lots of small stuff that were interesting, besides play itself.

good job murray :yeah:

..and here's my sign to a petition to remove sleeze jim courier from this overexposing job of his.

Corey Feldman
01-26-2010, 01:55 PM
Matador's tender knees are what keeping tennis still interesting. The only way Muggay could of won today.http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_02/JoseTomas1LFI_468x552.jpg

brithater
01-26-2010, 01:58 PM
From the end of the second set. Which was precisely three games. If he was hurting before, why didn't he call the trainer at the end of the second set?

Cause he is a puss. I suggest people watch the Agassi Rafter Semi from a few years back where Patrick was locked up and could not move. He finished the match though. How many times did you see Sampras default? Hewitt? None. They give the opponent the win. Rafa could still hit ball and should have finished it out. A great champion that pussed out. He should be ashamed. You dont do that in a slam, you dont do that to an opponent. Andy won this match and Rafa stole his victory. Now Andy who played a brilliant match is overlooked because the focus is on Rafa.

The only exception I make is to Safina and Koubek this tournament. Those defaults were justified and correct.

MsTree
01-26-2010, 02:02 PM
You're schizo. No point in him continuing to play if he thought he might make the injury worse. I would've preferred Andy to have beaten a fit and healthy Nadal, but I can make do with him beating a fit and healthy Nadal over two sets.

Clydey
01-26-2010, 02:03 PM
This is a minor point, given everything else that happened. However, did anyone notice that Murray's second serve was better by leaps and bounds today? It had direction and pace.

abraxas21
01-26-2010, 02:04 PM
Rafito could have at least finished the match, imo.

MsTree
01-26-2010, 02:09 PM
This is a minor point, given everything else that happened. However, did anyone notice that Murray's second serve was better by leaps and bounds today? It had direction and pace.

Yes, god some sense at last :)
He was really going for it with his 2nd serve, surprising he didn't DF more often! I think that may have taken Rafa by surprise a bit, he would have been expecting Andy's usual 3/4 court safe 2nd serve but there were only a few of those...

Certinfy
01-26-2010, 02:10 PM
This is a minor point, given everything else that happened. However, did anyone notice that Murray's second serve was better by leaps and bounds today? It had direction and pace.Good spot, it was defo a lot better today :yeah:

MatchFederer
01-26-2010, 02:11 PM
Murray's ability to place the ball where the damn hell he likes was rather evident today, not to mention his tremendous explosive movement. Oh.. and his backhand ousted Nadal's forehand. Oh.. and he was absolutely clutch in pressure situations. His backhand was very solid and often potent CC and DTL; his forehand held up and was super solid throughout the feisty exchanges; he was constantly able to defend with interest and return apparent winners.

Nadal tried to wrong-foot Murray and catch him out in the baseline exchanges; didn't work.

Nadal tried to gain upper hands in the rallies by playing the ball and not the man; didn't work.

Murray is a smooth, savvy tennis machine.

This Murray is GOOD.

Sophocles
01-26-2010, 02:13 PM
But WHY doesn't Murray play this way against the rest of the tour? He wasn't super-aggressive - he's never going to be Berdych or Blake (thank God) - and he did a fair bit of defending, slicing, & dicing, frustrating the hell out of the Nadal, but he mixed it up, came in behind strong first serves, pulled the trigger on his groundstrokes when he had an opening, returned deeply, etc. It's a (potentially) winning formula against Nadal, but it would be against most other players most of the time too.

chenx15
01-26-2010, 02:14 PM
I would rather have a crier over a quitter anytime

MatchFederer
01-26-2010, 02:15 PM
This is a minor point, given everything else that happened. However, did anyone notice that Murray's second serve was better by leaps and bounds today? It had direction and pace.

This point is anything but minor. It could end up being hugely 'major' by the time this tournament is over ala AO major triumph.

But yes it was clearly evident that today his second serve was worthy, and it will probably continue to be so. It was probably one of the few things Murray really focused on in the off-season. Apparently, the aggressive forehand cross-court was another port of call for Murray in the off-season.

Good shi'.

philosophicalarf
01-26-2010, 02:16 PM
But WHY doesn't Murray play this way against the rest of the tour?

Bluntly: cos he doesn't need to. Again Nadal you have to hit through him, if you wait for errors likely you'll make one first.

He may find it psychologically less challenging just to play reactive stuff, rather than beating himself up when he misses a big hit.

rubbERR
01-26-2010, 02:18 PM
This is a minor point, given everything else that happened. However, did anyone notice that Murray's second serve was better by leaps and bounds today? It had direction and pace.

fluke, he cant improve his crap 2nd serve one day. :lol:

MatchFederer
01-26-2010, 02:20 PM
fluke, he cant improve his crap 2nd serve one day. :lol:

Saving it for the big boys because his transition from lame 2nd serve to half decent is only half complete.