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Tsonga def Haas 6:4, 3:6, 6:1, 7:5

Greg-Pete fan
01-23-2010, 09:41 AM
What a choke by Haas, he was leading 5:2 in the fourth set and was two points away twice from the fifht set (at 5:4 30:30 and deuce on his opponent serve).

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 09:41 AM
Tsonga's return today :worship:

Andre♥
01-23-2010, 09:42 AM
Absolutely ridiculous by Haas on the last 5 games of the match. He won how many points in those 5 games? 2?

rubbERR
01-23-2010, 09:42 AM
routines? haas was 5-2 up 4th set...foolish fanboy :lol:

Nidhogg
01-23-2010, 09:43 AM
The sexiest match of the tournament so far. Every now and then tennis comes alive. A good show from both guys. :D

Edit: For the record, this thread was the first one.

Clydey
01-23-2010, 09:44 AM
That was anything but routine.

It's leng jai (Chang) that I feel sorry for.

LleytonMonfils
01-23-2010, 09:45 AM
Definitely routine. Anything who knows anything about Ali knows he was just giving Haas the ol rope a dope in the 4th set. Classic Ali!

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 09:46 AM
Routines??? you idiot! Haas choked, he led 5-2 and lost it yet again. If it had gone to a fifth Tsonga would have been toast. He has never even won a 5th set match in his entire career. Tommy Haas had the match on his racket like he usually does and he choked it away as usual.

Cloudygirl
01-23-2010, 09:46 AM
Not a choke, Tsonga is just an incredibly streaky player.

henke007
01-23-2010, 09:46 AM
Routine Chooke by Haas

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 09:46 AM
routines? haas was 5-2 up 4th set...foolish fanboy :lol:

You would still be a fanboy if Safin could play, so doesn't that make you even less than a fanboy?

LleytonMonfils
01-23-2010, 09:47 AM
Routines you idiot! Haas choked, he led 5-2 and lost it yet again. If it had gone to a fifth Tsonga would have been toast. He has never even won a 5th set match in his entire career. Tommy Haas had the match on his racket like he usually does and he choked it away as usual.

How can you win a 5th set when you have never been to a 5th set? :rolleyes:

General Suburbia
01-23-2010, 09:47 AM
Weird match. At least it wasn't a total blowout. Except for those last 5 games.

Certinfy
01-23-2010, 09:48 AM
Nice 1 Jo :yeah:

Speed of Light
01-23-2010, 09:49 AM
So finally the trash has been taken out by Ali.

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 09:51 AM
How can you win a 5th set when you have never been to a 5th set? :rolleyes:

Well exactly he does not have the match experience to win a 5th set as he has never played one. He would have cramped or folded or both.:rolleyes: Anyway Tsonga is a great player. Haas choked once again and Tsonga took the match in his hands. He deserved to win. As Haas is a choker and this coming from one of his biggest fans.
But to call this match routine you have to be an idiot.

oranges
01-23-2010, 09:52 AM
You would still be a fanboy if Safin could play, so doesn't that make you even less than a fanboy?

I think you're mistaking him for Burrow :lol: rubbERR is psycho delpo fanboy, who shits on his idol as much as on everyone else, which is a ton. At the same time, he jumps on everyone who has anything to say about delpo, like a rash really, annoying, worthless, but impossible to ignore

This was anything but routine. Very good showing by both guys, though Tommy lost the plot in the end. I think he was still pissed over that lost break to misfire two BH and practically gift Jo 6:5 to serve it out.

endru89
01-23-2010, 09:52 AM
the biggest choke by haas was losing game (he has 2 bp) at 4-1 in 4 set, if he had broken tsonga for 5-1 it wouldn't have been so hard to keep serve in deciding moment. Tsonga in the last set just take advatage of Haas choke.

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 09:55 AM
Well exactly he does not have the match experience to win a 5th set as he has never played one. He would have cramped or folded or both.:rolleyes:

And you know this how? He looked as energized as ever at the end of the 4th set. Bottomline Tsonga took up his game and Haas could not fend him off. I had a feeling the whole time in the 4th that Tsonga would close it out in the 4th, didn't have that feeling last year with Verdasco. By the way I use the word routine tongue-in-cheek due to the debate in the WWW thread.

Leen.
01-23-2010, 10:00 AM
Tommy :sad:

Well done Tsonga, though! :)

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 10:02 AM
And you know this how? He looked as energized as ever at the end of the 4th set. Bottomline Tsonga took up his game and Haas could not fend him off. I had a feeling the whole time in the 4th that Tsonga would close it out in the 4th, didn't have that feeling last year with Verdasco. By the way I use the word routine tongue-in-cheek due to the debate in the WWW thread.

He was energized because Tommy got him back into the match. He was not very energized before that moment, in fact Tommy was in total control.
Well I guess we will never know, now the match is over. It doesn't matter, Haas choked and Tsonga did what he had to do. I actually really like Tsonga but for someone to call this match routine well he is either a fanboy or an idiot. Haas was playing so much better in the 4th set before the pressure got to him and he served like shit.
It was all downhill after the break, everyone knows that Haas is mentally fragile. Tsonga did good.
And I wish him luck in the next round. No comment about Tommy.:rolleyes:

Asar
01-23-2010, 10:02 AM
Tommy... :sad: he play very well but the Tsong also play good!

Yves.
01-23-2010, 10:05 AM
Tommy... :sad: he play very well but the Tsong also play good!

hilarious English:haha:

MurrayFan1
01-23-2010, 10:05 AM
Great match! Glad the BBC showed this instead of Wozniacki.

simplet
01-23-2010, 10:06 AM
Tsonga was pretty unhappy with his game here, he said on french TV after the match that he was sluggish and having a hard time getting into the match. I don't really see why as he played pretty well except for a couple of brainfart on serve as usual. If he could stop doing that he'd be mighty hard to touch on serve.

He also said he was really really happy to get away with that fourth set, Haas was playing aggressively and taking the ball early, but he managed to regain his concentration late in the fourth and Haas crumbled after the rebreak. Apparently Tsonga believes he can play much better than that in the coming rounds. I'm a bit skeptical but it'll take something special to beat him if he does.

MrChopin
01-23-2010, 10:07 AM
Tommy didn't sheisse his way out of this one, but he might as well have. You knew he was getting broken at 5-5 given how Tsonga had taken the three previous games. Rather than pause and collect, Haas just went right along and blew that game at love or 15 with at least two UEs when he tried to outhit a redlining Tsonga.

A shame because there was real promise for a good fifth set in what was an entertaining match, to contrast the muggy pushing of most matches this week. Both players could have reached a stable level after tightening their games, which is very possible when going to a fifth in up-down matches. Had such happened, it would have been a great ending.

Voo de Mar
01-23-2010, 10:07 AM
It becomes really ridiculous that Tsonga is still a 5-set virgin :mad:

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 10:08 AM
He was energized because Tommy got him back into the match. He was not very energized before that moment, in fact Tommy was in total control.
Well I guess we will never know, now the match is over. It doesn't matter, Haas choked and Tsonga did what he had to do. I actually really like Tsonga but for someone to call this match routine well he is either a fanboy or an idiot.

To bring up the use of the word routine after I already explained it to be sarcastic you have to have terrible reading comprehension.

bad gambler
01-23-2010, 10:08 AM
Should have been a 5 setter, shame

oranges
01-23-2010, 10:11 AM
It becomes really ridiculous that Tsonga is still a 5-set virgin :mad:

:lol: This one really looked to be going that way, but no

Commander Data
01-23-2010, 10:14 AM
expected.

..Tsonga will lose against Djokovic...

Jōris
01-23-2010, 10:15 AM
Haas looked injured from 5-2.

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 10:17 AM
To bring up the use of the word routine after I already explained it to be sarcastic you have to have terrible reading comprehension.

or maybe your English is not that good. Dude where were you being sarcastic? I don't think anyone here got that. I think you were just looking to piss of some Haas fans. Anyway, Congrats on Tsonga, he is a great tennis player and I wish him luck in the next round.:wavey:
And :hug: to all the Tommy Haas fans, I know just how you guys feel, its a pain in the ass being a Tommy fan but if you love him you love him and that is it. Tommy has some of the best fans we put up with some major shit but we always stick by our boy.

Lugburz
01-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Haas looked injured from 5-2.

this.

Now, what was really weird, Where were those outbursts and cursings after throwing away 5 games in a row :shrug:

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 10:20 AM
or maybe your English is not that good. Dude where were you being sarcastic? I don't think anyone here got that. I think you were just looking to piss of some Haas fans. Anyway, Congrats on Tsonga, he is a great tennis player and I wish him luck in the next round.:wavey:

My English is better than yours will ever be buddy, and if you still don't understand the sarcasm, maybe you should get an introductory English teacher to help you understand my post.

oranges
01-23-2010, 10:22 AM
expected.

..Tsonga will lose against Djokovic...

So short and so wrong on both accounts

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 10:24 AM
My English is better than yours will ever be buddy, and if you still don't understand the sarcasm, maybe you should get an introductory English teacher to help you understand my post.

Keep telling yourself that and buy a dictionary while your at it.:wavey:

MrChopin
01-23-2010, 10:25 AM
So finally the trash has been taken out by Ali.

Keep your nose pressed to Nadal, clown.

the biggest choke by haas was losing game (he has 2 bp) at 4-1 in 4 set, if he had broken tsonga for 5-1 it wouldn't have been so hard to keep serve in deciding moment. Tsonga in the last set just take advatage of Haas choke.

I don't remember which points, but I think two of the points Tsonga won to take the 1-4 game were aces or un-returnable.

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 10:27 AM
Keep telling yourself that and buy a dictionary while your at it.:wavey:

I hate to brag but I scored a 5/5 on both AP English exams, something I doubt you could do judging by your writing. Anyways, this thread is not about me or you or your inability to understand simple posts, its about Tsonga "routining" Haas. :wavey:

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 10:31 AM
Tommy Haas choked away the match, once again. At least was playing some pretty good tennis for the most part. Its still very painful thinking about what could have been. Poor Tommy!
Anyway, Congrats on Tsonga, he is a great tennis player and I wish him luck in the next round.
And to all the Tommy Haas fans, I know just how you guys feel, its a pain in the ass being a Tommy fan but if you love him you love him and that is it. Tommy has some of the best fans,, we put up with some major shit but we always stick by our boy.

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 10:35 AM
I hate to brag but I scored a 5/5 on both AP English exams, something I doubt you could do judging by your writing. Anyways, this thread is not about me or you or your inability to understand simple posts, its about Tsonga "routining" Haas. :wavey:

I am sure you are just as annoying in school and your English professor just wanted to get you the hell out of his class, so he gave you a 5/5.:p

Cloudygirl
01-23-2010, 10:39 AM
It becomes really ridiculous that Tsonga is still a 5-set virgin :mad:

Are there any other guys who have been active that length of time at that level that haven't ever played a 5th set?

Lugburz
01-23-2010, 10:41 AM
Tommy Haas choked away the match, once again. At least was playing some pretty good tennis for the most part. Its still very painful thinking about what could have been. Poor Tommy!
Anyway, Congrats on Tsonga, he is a great tennis player and I wish him luck in the next round.
And to all the Tommy Haas fans, I know just how you guys feel, its a pain in the ass being a Tommy fan but if you love him you love him and that is it. Tommy has some of the best fans,, we put up with some major shit but we always stick by our boy.

probably the feeling is mutual. Mourning lasts for around few days, but that is all part of the Tommy fan club.It was very confusing how he managed to lose that 4th set after such a big chance to serve that out. As I've already mentioned I really think that injury was a big part of it, as I couldn't see his famous outbursts.
He started very well, showed us patience,smth that couldn't be seen as usual thing. Two very similar sets, bot of them deserved it. His all around play could have been seen once again, I hope other anti tennis players can follow that example, but most likely they won't..

Tsonganator
01-23-2010, 10:42 AM
I am sure you are just as annoying in school and your English professor just wanted to get you the hell out of his class, so he gave you a 5/5.:p

Except the grade is not given by a professor, its a standardized nationwide exam graded partially by a machine and partially by anonymous graders. Of course a simple google search would let you know that, just as reading my previous post once would have explained the word "routine". Why do you always post without taking the time to think? You must be one of those people who always tries to argue about topics he knows nothing about.

Voo de Mar
01-23-2010, 10:45 AM
Are there any other guys who have been active that length of time at that level that haven't ever played a 5th set?

No! Actually it's a normal thing to play a 5-set match in first or second year as a pro :o

oranges
01-23-2010, 10:53 AM
I really hope there's nothing to that injury talk. I'd expect him to call in a trainer again at the very least. In any case, as much as he blew the chance to go to the fifth largely on his own, he should also be given major props for the way he put himself in that position in the first place. Jo was pretty much untouchable on serve and Tommy played some excellent and gutsy points to take his chances when they arose. 2/3 BP conversion against such a server is just :worship:

Sophocles
01-23-2010, 11:00 AM
Decent match but Tsonga has to tighten up his game to have a shot at the semis. Shame these 2 had to meet so early.

oranges
01-23-2010, 11:16 AM
Decent match but Tsonga has to tighten up his game to have a shot at the semis. Shame these 2 had to meet so early.

Join my petition to have a repeat of this match in the 4th, instead of Jo pulverizing Almagro ;)

JolánGagó
01-23-2010, 11:22 AM
He didn't routine anybody, eriet, up to the 7th game of 4th set Haas still had a chance. He got tired and Tsonga still had one gear up. The match wasn't for Haasie to win but he wasn't "routined".

fran70
01-23-2010, 02:06 PM
I`d just watched the 4th set. Great comeback for Tsonga. That believe he would not have many troubles to beat Almagro. Tsonga would be a big test to see if Djokovic is ready to win here his 2nd GS.

jcempire
01-23-2010, 02:13 PM
Tsonga .... Tiem for him to make another run

UsD.AnDreS
01-23-2010, 02:45 PM
Veeery nice match to watch. But I'd also love to see the 5th set with something like 10-8 scoreline there instead of that disappointing choke,but well..

philosophicalarf
01-23-2010, 04:01 PM
Haas had no serve in the 3rd/4th sets, after the medical for the back. He could survive when his ground game was working and Tsonga's wasn't in the early 4th, but when the cycles reversed a bit he was always toast.

gorgo1986
01-23-2010, 04:25 PM
I am sorry to say that Tommy Haas is in fact injured again, he has a problem with his knee and back and will most likely miss several events, he is leaving Australia to go see his doctor, take some tests. Lets hope its not that serious. He was just starting to play well again. He supposedly first started having trouble in his second round match with Janko. :(

Andi-M
01-23-2010, 04:58 PM
Saw the highlights Jo looked OK, but theres alot of room for improvement. His fight in the 4th was immense. This guy dosent know when a set is dead.

Nice that Jo will now be in 1/4s with Nole (barring a total mental or physical collapse vs Magro) should be a good one :yeah:

ChinoRios4Ever
01-23-2010, 05:36 PM
Hassi your 4th set :o

It becomes really ridiculous that Tsonga is still a 5-set virgin :mad:

unreal for a top 10 player :p

philosophicalarf
01-23-2010, 06:09 PM
It's not that unusual I think - Tsonga was a late developer, and hasn't actually played that many slam matches. He's only actually played around 15 slam matches where the oppponent and him were of similar levels, which unsurprisingly is where 5 setters tend to come from. On top of that he's mediocre on clay, can't find any game in the USA (not a coincidence his best ever result in N America was in French-speaking Montreal), and missed Wimbledon08 through injury.

rhinooooo
01-23-2010, 06:34 PM
Saw the highlights Jo looked OK, but theres alot of room for improvement. His fight in the 4th was immense. This guy dosent know when a set is dead.

Nice that Jo will now be in 1/4s with Nole (barring a total mental or physical collapse vs Magro) should be a good one :yeah:

Anyone have a link to highlights of this match?

saniapower
01-23-2010, 06:44 PM
poor quality :spit:

KarlyM
01-23-2010, 10:43 PM
The only exciting match of the day. :p Too bad it didn't go 5 sets. Haas really blew it in the end :help:, but he at least lived up to his seed. :dance: Nice fight by Tsonga in the 4th set - he should be able to get to the QF without much trouble. :)

.-Federers_Mate-.
01-24-2010, 08:09 AM
Another great Australian open match. The one day i decide to get Rod laver tickets over hisense ones i get screwed.

saniapower
01-24-2010, 10:32 AM
why hass not retire ?????? :smash:

Experimentee
01-24-2010, 10:22 PM
Great match, really high quality from both players and I'm happy I was there.

It was not really a choke from Haas when he was serving for the set, Tsonga played some great points to break back. Haas played a pathetic game at 5-5 though. Once he was broken back, Haas gave up the 4th set.

If Tsonga cuts out the lapses in concentration and consistently serves a good % he will be a threat for the tournament.