Most Retirements In A Career

kindling
01-20-2010, 08:25 PM
Is there record of this somewhere, other than just looking at individual match results throughout history? Any one have any idea who holds the record. Delpo will surely break it sometime in his career. :)

Collective
01-20-2010, 08:28 PM
Djokovic must be up there

tennishero
01-20-2010, 08:44 PM
Is there record of this somewhere, other than just looking at individual match results throughout history? Any one have any idea who holds the record. Delpo will surely break it sometime in his career. :)
Get a clue b4 making such retarded comments.

chowdahead25
01-20-2010, 10:51 PM
Brett Favre

born_on_clay
01-21-2010, 08:29 PM
anyone ? ;)

Sjengster
01-21-2010, 08:41 PM
Isn't it Jerome Golmard? By my count he retired no fewer than 28 times, including every Grand Slam except his home major (and by the looks of the scorelines of some of his RG defeats he perhaps should have quit in them). In fact he retired three times at the AO alone, all against still active players, Kiefer, Nalbandian and Srichaphan. 19 were at tour level, so both Djokovic and Del Potro have ground to make up.

Agrajag
01-21-2010, 10:05 PM
Crazy-Dani is a decent talent in this regard. He already has 18 if you count challengers and qualies. That's is pretty good considering he is only 26. Of course he has a few WOs and defaults too.

theseth1119
01-21-2010, 10:08 PM
Count up Davy's, he's up there too I think.

Arkulari
01-21-2010, 10:12 PM
Roger

oh wait...

Snowwy
01-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Brett Favre

Says a guy who loves two retiring kings..

Crazy-Dani is a decent talent in this regard. He already has 18 if you count challengers and qualies. That's is pretty good considering he is only 26. Of course he has a few WOs and defaults too.

Nice to see a real post in this thread.

theseth1119
01-21-2010, 10:33 PM
Roger

oh wait...

This is what makes Rogie so great, he's never once retired in the middle of a match.

kindling
01-21-2010, 10:34 PM
Has Fed or Nadal ever retired?

Cloudygirl
01-21-2010, 10:35 PM
Surely Nole only has 7 or 8 it's just a lot of those came in majors.

elessar
01-21-2010, 10:39 PM
I think Gasquet has like 13 or so already :o

EDIT: hmmm maybe not, I can only count 9 so far.

Cloudygirl
01-21-2010, 10:41 PM
Has Fed or Nadal ever retired?


Federer retired Bercy 08. Can't recall any others though

Nadal's had a few. - Bercy 08, Cinci 07 and I think Sydney too, Queens 06 and I'm sure there have been others I just can't remember them.

elessar
01-21-2010, 10:42 PM
Didn't retire he gave a WO.

I think Rafa's up to 6 at least :scratch:

Cloudygirl
01-21-2010, 10:52 PM
Gasquet had quite a lot of retirements and w/os in his early career I think. Can't think that he's had any since 07ish.

I'm thinking Del Potro's got to have about 12 so thats quite high because he's in such an early stage of his career.

Sjengster
01-21-2010, 11:05 PM
A more interesting question would be who's the most retiring player on tour, Del Potro has a much better chance of winning that category rather than just being shortlisted.

Komodo
02-14-2010, 06:01 PM
Has Fed or Nadal ever retired?

Dude, are you kidding me?
At 23 years old, Nadal has retired no fewer than 7 times at ATP level (not challengers or futures).
Not a single one of these 7 retirements has been with Nadal in a leading position in the match, by the way. You be the judge of that.

Federer hasn't retired during a match even once. Huge credit to him for that, as I am sure that he has had health problems during a lot of his losses - so have probably all tennis players, and it is clearly so hard to keep playing against the loss while in pain, feeling bad about the way you can perform on the court.

Corey Feldman
02-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Jelena Jankovic, Nole, Tipsarevic are quitting specialists

fighters these Serbs

JediFed
02-14-2010, 09:56 PM
Spartans, all of them.

delpiero7
02-15-2010, 12:13 AM
Dude, are you kidding me?
At 23 years old, Nadal has retired no fewer than 7 times at ATP level (not challengers or futures).
Not a single one of these 7 retirements has been with Nadal in a leading position in the match, by the way. You be the judge of that.

Federer hasn't retired during a match even once. Huge credit to him for that, as I am sure that he has had health problems during a lot of his losses - so have probably all tennis players, and it is clearly so hard to keep playing against the loss while in pain, feeling bad about the way you can perform on the court.

What is this comment supposed to mean? That he retires when he knows he has no chance of winning, even if he's not injured.

I seem to recall Nadal playing right to the bitter end in some severe beatdowns - off the top of my head vs Djokovic and Del Potro last year, not to forget winning only 1 game vs Youzhny in Chennai in '07.

n8
02-15-2010, 12:15 AM
Germans lead the way...

Since the beginning of 2000 and up until the end of Johannesburg, Santiago and Zagreb 2010, Haas has had the most retirements (withdrawals not included) with 16. Fellow German Kiefer is close behind along with Davydenko. Despite being very young, del Potro already has 10. I got my stats from this page (http://tennis-data.co.uk/alldata.php), please note I have found errors in this data so it may not be perfect but it should be pretty close. Also note that this only include tour level events and not Davis Cup. Obviously retirements per match played is the more relevant statistic, but that requires more effort:bdaycake:.



Haas T. 16
Kiefer N. 15
Davydenko N. 15
Mathieu P.H. 13
Acasuso J. 13
Massu N. 12
Horna L. 12
Coria G. 12
Pavel A. 11
Llodra M. 11
Calleri A. 11
Volandri F. 11
Golmard J. 10
Roddick A. 10
Malisse X. 10
Del Potro J.M. 10


The players who have played more matches generally have the most retirements against them (since 2000). Former or current number ones Nadal, Federer, Ferrero and Hewitt lead in this department along with several tour veterans. Surprisingly Murray is already up there.


Nadal R. 14
Federer R. 13
Ferrero J.C. 13
Hewitt L. 13
Robredo T. 11
Mirnyi M. 11
Martin A. 10
Safin M. 10
Santoro F. 10
Chela J.I. 10
Hrbaty D. 10
Verdasco F. 10
Monaco J. 10
Murray A. 10

StevoTG
02-15-2010, 12:21 AM
Considering Murray's style of play I wouldn't say it's a huge surprise that he made the list of players winning via retirements. He's probably the last guy you'd want to be playing against if you had an injury to contend with, along with Nadal. Though I suppse that 10 is a high number considering how many matches he has played.

Arkulari
02-15-2010, 03:05 AM
how many retirements has Rafa had?

n8
02-15-2010, 03:27 AM
how many retirements has Rafa had?

Here's more of the list (down to all players with 3 or more). Rafa has had 6 (not 7 like someone else said, I checked on ATPWorldTour.com).

Rios M. 9
Gambill J.M. 9
Ferrero J.C. 9
Blanco G. 8
Schuettler R. 8
Puerta M. 8
Escude N. 8
Nieminen J. 8
Grosjean S. 8
Hanescu V. 8
Rochus C. 8
Lapentti N. 7
El Aynaoui Y. 7
Sanguinetti D. 7
Dent T. 7
Ulihrach B. 7
Arazi H. 7
Spadea V. 7
Gasquet R. 7
Monfils G. 7
Almagro N. 7
Tipsarevic J. 7
Ljubicic I. 6
Sanchez D. 6
Schalken S. 6
Stepanek R. 6
Hernandez O. 6
Tursunov D. 6
Kohlschreiber P.6
Starace P. 6
Nadal R. 6
Soderling R. 6
Djokovic N. 6
Monaco J. 6
Troicki V. 6
Zverev M. 6
Hipfl M. 5
Kuerten G. 5
Ivanisevic G. 5
Safin M. 5
Ferreira W. 5
Santoro F. 5
Zabaleta M. 5
Martin A. 5
Gonzalez F. 5
Labadze I. 5
Vliegen K. 5
Verdasco F. 5
Youzhny M. 5
Fish M. 5
Baghdatis M. 5
Lu Y.H. 5
van Lottum J. 4
Agassi A. 4
Rosset M. 4
Canas G. 4
Koubek S. 4
Voinea A. 4
Johansson J. 4
Squillari F. 4
Philippoussis M.4
Sluiter R. 4
Levy H. 4
Carlsen K. 4
Gaudio G. 4
Savolt A. 4
Heuberger I. 4
Kucera K. 4
Ancic M. 4
Ginepri R. 4
Ferrer D. 4
Karlovic I. 4
Daniel M. 4
Berlocq C. 4
Simon G. 4
Gicquel M. 4
Darcis S. 4
Mantilla F. 3
Meligeni F. 3
Diaz J. 3
Chela J.I. 3
Norman M. 3
Gaudenzi A. 3
Arthurs W. 3
Knowle J. 3
Nalbandian D. 3
Burgsmuller L. 3
Krajan Z. 3
Carraz G. 3
Gimelstob J. 3
Saulnier C. 3
Kafelnikov Y. 3
Montanes A. 3
Verkerk M. 3
Moya C. 3
Vassallo-Arguello M. 3
Berdych T. 3
Hewitt L. 3
Russell M. 3
Gabashvili T. 3
Mahut N. 3
Hajek J. 3
Srichaphan P. 3
Korolev E. 3
Nishikori K. 3
Stakhovsky S. 3
Istomin D. 3

Arkulari
02-15-2010, 03:31 AM
thanks, awesome stuff as usual :yeah:

leng jai
02-15-2010, 04:40 AM
Vamos Hasi.

Arkulari
02-15-2010, 04:43 AM
how about Boris the legend?

Snowwy
02-15-2010, 05:16 AM
Not a single one of these 7 retirements has been with Nadal in a leading position in the match, by the way. You be the judge of that.

Who retires when they are in the lead, you have to not be able to move to do that.

mickymouse
02-15-2010, 05:33 AM
Who retires when they are in the lead, you have to not be able to move to do that.

Caroline Wozniacki retired when she was 7-5 5-0 up.
You do not have to be immobile to retire. There are players who retire when they have a sore throat. :lol:

federersforehand
02-15-2010, 06:20 AM
like nadal :P

Truc
02-15-2010, 07:42 AM
I don't have time to look it up now, but the stats look weird to me.
I know that last time I checked Llodra's stats, he had quite a record of retirements, it was definitely closer to 20 than 10 and more than PHM imo.

n8
02-15-2010, 09:07 AM
I don't have time to look it up now, but the stats look weird to me.
I know that last time I checked Llodra's stats, he had quite a record of retirements, it was definitely closer to 20 than 10 and more than PHM imo.

I checked Llodra's retirements and 11 is exactly correct. Note that the stats are from the year 2000 onwards and do not include the Davis Cup or Challengers (Llodra's had 7 Challenger retirements since 2000). I don't think Llodra played any tour level events before 2000 anyway).

RIboy
02-15-2010, 09:14 AM
Boris Pashanski, enough said

Truc
02-15-2010, 09:33 AM
I checked Llodra's retirements and 11 is exactly correct. Note that the stats are from the year 2000 onwards and do not include the Davis Cup or Challengers (Llodra's had 7 Challenger retirements since 2000). I don't think Llodra played any tour level events before 2000 anyway).OK, thanks, I had counted the Challengers, of course.

I was just looking it up myself and here's what OnCourt says for Llodra, I haven't checked it:
(24) Tommy Haas Wimbledon 24.06.2009 Second Grass 4-3 ret.
(q) Kevin Kim Miami 25.03.2009 First Hard 3-6 ret.
(11) Richard Gasquet Cincinnati 29.07.2008 First Hard 3-6 6-1 1-0 ret.
Mario Ancic Wimbledon 23.06.2008 First Grass 6-4 7-6(7) 2-0 ret.
Nicolas Kiefer Halle 13.06.2008 1/4 Grass 4-0 ret.
Thierry Ascione Andrezieux 18.10.2007 Second I.hard 3-2 ret.
(12) Paul-Henri Mathieu London 13.06.2007 Second Grass 7-6(4) ret.
(q) Steve Darcis San Remo 16.05.2007 Second Clay w/o
Michael Berrer Heilbronn 28.01.2007 Final I.hard 6-5 ret.
(q) Julien Jeanpierre Cherbourg 02.03.2006 Second I.hard 6-3 1-1 ret.
Janko Tipsarevic Belgrade 18.02.2006 1/2 Carpet 6-4 2-1 ret.
Florent Serra Adelaide 03.01.2006 First Hard 3-6 3-1 ret.
Julien Benneteau Orleans 15.09.2005 Second I.hard w/o
(31) Carlos Moya U.S. Open 30.08.2005 First Hard 6-4 6-4 2-1 ret.
Glenn Weiner Rogers Cup 06.08.2005 q-First Hard 5-0 ret.
(q) Todd Reid Indianapolis 20.07.2004 First Hard 4-6 6-3 3-0 ret.
Dick Norman Andrezieux 20.02.2004 1/4 I.hard 7-6(5) ret.
Neville Godwin Recanati 21.07.2003 Second Hard 3-6 7-6(4) 2-0 ret.
Peter Luczak Monte Carlo 14.04.2003 q-First Clay 2-1 ret.
Christophe Rochus Copenhagen 11.02.2002 First I.hard 6-3 1-2 ret.
Felix Mantilla Wimbledon 25.06.2001 First Grass 6-4 6-2 6-7(5) 3-6 2-1 ret.
Jamie Delgado Bronx 14.08.2000 First Hard 6-3 2-2 ret.
That would be 22. PHM has 17, but more on the main tour indeed.

Sophocles
02-15-2010, 09:43 AM
Open Era, I would guess Connors.

kiwi10is
02-15-2010, 04:47 PM
Kiefer 6 retirements in one year :-(

sammy01
02-15-2010, 05:02 PM
del potro will probably have a high number of retirements as well as injuries, because for someone of his height he moves incredibley, buy it will lead to injuries.

Quakes
02-15-2010, 06:08 PM
Davydenko is justified. He plays twice as much as anyone, so he should retire at least twice as much!

Komodo
02-15-2010, 09:05 PM
Here's more of the list (down to all players with 3 or more). Rafa has had 6 (not 7 like someone else said, I checked on ATPWorldTour.com).


1. St. Jean De Luz, France; 15.09.2003; CH; Indoor: Hard; Draw: 32
R16 Richard Gasquet (FRA) 123 L 2-6 RET

2.Auckland, New Zealand; 10.01.2005; WS; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 32
R32 Dominik Hrbaty (SVK) 20 L 3-6 RET

3.London / Queen's Club, England; 12.06.2006; WS; Outdoor: Grass; Draw: 56
Q Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) 13 L 6-3, 3-6 RET

4.Sydney, Australia; 08.01.2007; WS; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 32
R32 Chris Guccione (AUS) 107 L 5-6 RET

5.ATP Masters Series Cincinnati, OH, U.S.A.; 13.08.2007; SU; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 56
R32 Juan Monaco (ARG) 25 L 6-7(5), 1-4 RET

6.ATP Masters Series Paris, France; 26.10.2008; SU; Indoor: Hard; Draw: 48
Q Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) 6 L 1-6 RET

7. Australian Open, Australia; 18.01.2010; GS; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 128
Q Andy Murray (GBR) 4 L 3-6, 6-7(2), 0-3 RET Stats


Okay, I actually made the error to count in a retirement from a challenger in 2003, when he got spanked in the duel between the up-and-coming 16 year olds. So it is indeed 6 at tour level.
To the poster who thinks that it is normal to only have retirements when you aren't winning the match: doesn't that make Federers 0 retirements even more admirable?
I don't agree though. I covered the mental aspect of losing while playing hurt in my previous post, so of course there will be a difference between retiring while losing and winning, but only a discrepancy to a certain degree seems like fair play to me.

dodo
02-15-2010, 11:46 PM
Davydenko is justified. He plays twice as much as anyone, so he should retire at least twice as much!

Didnt Djokovic play the most matches last season?

Dini
02-15-2010, 11:48 PM
Yeah Djokovic won the most matches last season but he didn't miss a single tournament IIRC and got deep into each one apart from RG.

Davydenko on the other hand was out with injuries for three months or something like that, including AO.

dodo
02-15-2010, 11:54 PM
Davydenko on the other hand was out with injuries for three months or something like that, including AO.

Even if he plays a full season, he loses to random mugs in 2nd or 3rd round of 500-events half the time, so his total matches are still less.

DartMarcus
02-16-2010, 02:52 PM
King Hernandez with 28 or 29, I think. All other suck compared to the King. :worship:

Roamed
02-16-2010, 02:56 PM
How many other top-level players have never retired, apart from Fed? :scratch:

DartMarcus
02-16-2010, 03:12 PM
How many other top-level players have never retired, apart from Fed? :scratch:

Blake only probably ;)

Snowwy
02-16-2010, 03:43 PM
1. St. Jean De Luz, France; 15.09.2003; CH; Indoor: Hard; Draw: 32
R16 Richard Gasquet (FRA) 123 L 2-6 RET

Thats a challenger.

HKz
02-16-2010, 06:43 PM
Has Fed or Nadal ever retired?

You're not being serious are you? What did Nadal just do right now against Murray?

Nr 1 Fan
02-16-2010, 06:44 PM
Boris Pashanski maybe?

jonas
02-16-2010, 06:46 PM
How many other top-level players have never retired, apart from Fed? :scratch:

Mats Wilander.

Or Levy
02-16-2010, 08:02 PM
Um, Roger never retired from a match. He gave haas a w/o during Paris 09, but no retirement.

Dini
02-16-2010, 08:10 PM
Um, Roger never retired from a match. He gave haas a w/o during Paris 09, but no retirement.

Blake Paris 08. ;)

TennisOnWood
02-16-2010, 08:56 PM
Um, Roger never retired from a match. He gave haas a w/o during Paris 09, but no retirement.

Yeah.. he left Paris 09 very early but he was defeated fair and square

Komodo
02-16-2010, 10:48 PM
1. St. Jean De Luz, France; 15.09.2003; CH; Indoor: Hard; Draw: 32
R16 Richard Gasquet (FRA) 123 L 2-6 RET

Thats a challenger.

Maybe try reading the post you just quoted, and then reflect for a second if what you wrote is stupid in any way.

Komodo
02-16-2010, 10:52 PM
Blake Paris 08. ;)

I'm sure you get the difference between a w/o before a match and retiring during the match(especially when trailing).
Hence the smily.

Dini
02-16-2010, 11:05 PM
I'm sure you get the difference between a w/o before a match and retiring during the match(especially when trailing).
Hence the smily.

Yes I get the difference. Or Levy just put the wrong information; she/he said Fed w/od against Haas in Bercy 09 when in fact it was against Blake in Bercy 08.

coonster14
02-16-2010, 11:10 PM
the only male players i can think of who have not retired during a match are Fed and Blake.

weird thing is that Fed has only given 1 WO, and that was to Blake at Paris 2008.

LoveFifteen
02-17-2010, 04:47 AM
Alexandra Stevenson also has a tragicly high number of retirements.

sanshisan
02-17-2010, 02:14 PM
Jelena Jankovic, Nole, Tipsarevic are quitting specialists

fighters these Serbs

Novak and Tipsarevic are not even in the top 20 of quitters. But you are.

sanshisan
02-17-2010, 02:19 PM
How many other top-level players have never retired, apart from Fed? :scratch:

According to these statistics posted by Statracket - Federer has retired 13 times -

Nadal R. 14
Federer R. 13
Ferrero J.C. 13
Hewitt L. 13
Robredo T. 11
Mirnyi M. 11
Martin A. 10
Safin M. 10
Santoro F. 10
Chela J.I. 10
Hrbaty D. 10
Verdasco F. 10
Monaco J. 10
Murray A. 10


Or am I missing something?

Arkulari
02-17-2010, 02:21 PM
no, it means the number of retirements they have had to deal with, the number of times a player has retired against them

17-6-302
11-20-2014, 05:14 AM
http://s2.postimg.org/ft5cd5r95/33xvdog.jpg

Federer's numbers are astonishing especially when compared to Rafa's and Nole's

Litotes
11-20-2014, 05:17 AM
Impressive numbers by Cilic.

Not so impressive by Nishikori....but that's nothing new.

ManofSteel
11-20-2014, 05:18 AM
http://s2.postimg.org/ft5cd5r95/33xvdog.jpg

Federer's numbers are astonishing especially when compared to Rafa's and Nole's

Its no surprising that the two servebots in the list have the lesser amount..

17-6-302
11-20-2014, 05:22 AM
Its no surprising that the two servebots in the list have the lesser amount..

Firstly congrats on editing your post. You started off with drivel about how 3=6 but then decided to change tack. I am not really surprised. Dulltards and noletards will try and make excuses now. Of course this list doesn't even factor how Dull misses tournaments he doesn't like.

JohnClarke
11-20-2014, 05:24 AM
http://s2.postimg.org/ft5cd5r95/33xvdog.jpg

Federer's numbers are astonishing especially when compared to Rafa's and Nole's


Federer's numbers are astonishing compared to anyone in the history who has played tennis for a while, probably except McEnroe who I believe had only 1 retirement. He is an exception. In fact for all the hate and bad press Nadal gets he is actually not too bad. If I remember it well even Sampras had 7 retirements. If you see other players who have had a long career the numbers are similar.

ManofSteel
11-20-2014, 05:25 AM
Firstly congrats on editing your post. You started off with drivel about how 3=6 but then decided to change tack. I am not really surprised. Dulltards and noletards will try and make excuses now. Of course this list doesn't even factor how Dull misses tournaments he doesn't like.

I'm not bringing up excuses here. Its a fact that players with bigger serve such as federer or cilic will rely much less on playing long rallies in order to win games, they basically have tons of "free points" which helps in shortening the match time and save effort/avoid extra taxing for your body.

RetourGagnant
11-20-2014, 05:42 AM
Maybe you can cite the last time of their retirement and WO, so we can see if some of these names have made a major physical improvement for the last couple of years?

Andrej
11-20-2014, 06:03 AM
Nice thread. Rafa's numbers are actually not bad.

RedHotRafa49
11-20-2014, 06:16 AM
Nishikori has a walkover in Miami SF does he not?

Litotes
11-20-2014, 07:51 AM
Federer's numbers are astonishing compared to anyone in the history who has played tennis for a while, probably except McEnroe who I believe had only 1 retirement. He is an exception. In fact for all the hate and bad press Nadal gets he is actually not too bad. If I remember it well even Sampras had 7 retirements. If you see other players who have had a long career the numbers are similar.

Sampras had eight WOs and seven retirements. Interestingly, none in his final two years.

McEnroe has three WOs and one retirement. Plus three DQs if we want to include all matches not finished due to him.

Litotes
11-20-2014, 07:55 AM
Nishikori has a walkover in Miami SF does he not?

He's got two WOs. Also Paris 2012.

Maybe I should check numbers for the others too.

Litotes
11-20-2014, 08:04 AM
Nadal has got two WOs, not one. Correct for retirements.

Djokovic has one WO, Paris 2011. Correct for retirements.

It looks like retirements are counted correctly but several WOs overlooked.

Litotes
11-20-2014, 08:12 AM
Wawrinka also has a WO, Rome 2013. And Cilic has two. Although the 2nd one was Wimbledon 2013, which he might be forgiven for when making this stat.

17-6-302
11-20-2014, 08:14 AM
Nadal has got two WOs, not one. Correct for retirements.

Djokovic has one WO, Paris 2011. Correct for retirements.

It looks like retirements are counted correctly but several WOs overlooked.

Can it be edited please? I would be greateful. I just came across it elsewhere and shared it here.

Litotes
11-20-2014, 08:16 AM
Murray has three WOs.

Looks like Federer was the only correct one in the original chart.

Litotes
11-20-2014, 08:17 AM
Can it be edited please? I would be greateful. I just came across it elsewhere and shared it here.

I can't edit a picture. You'd have to make a chart of your own.

17-6-302
11-20-2014, 08:18 AM
I'm not bringing up excuses here. Its a fact that players with bigger serve such as federer or cilic will rely much less on playing long rallies in order to win games, they basically have tons of "free points" which helps in shortening the match time and save effort/avoid extra taxing for your body.

Don't be intellectually dishonest. You were looking for excuses and arguments hence why you changed the content in your original post. Regardless it is still irrelevant anyway. It is not Federer's fault if Dull and Nole play ping pong tennis without taking risks with 50 shot rallies. That is not his problem.

masterclass
11-20-2014, 08:40 AM
Don't be intellectually dishonest. You were looking for excuses and arguments hence why you changed the content in your original post. Regardless it is still irrelevant anyway. It is not Federer's fault if Dull and Nole play ping pong tennis without taking risks with 50 shot rallies. That is not his problem.

Well ManofSteel made much too broad a generalization anyway using a restricted data set. Injuries can all have different causes and everyone is vulnerable. Some more than others, of course. Great servers through the years that have had major back and shoulder/arm problems is well documented. Some players have congenital/chronic problems that affect their entire career, or shorten it, and some overcome them.

Cilic is still young yet (26th bday less than 2 months ago). Give him another 400 matches and see what happens. Also, to get a better picture, it would be nice to see the tournaments from which players have been forced to withdraw from due to injury or other causes, but it's probably a difficult stat to retrieve.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Litotes
11-20-2014, 08:57 AM
I'm not bringing up excuses here. Its a fact that players with bigger serve such as federer or cilic will rely much less on playing long rallies in order to win games, they basically have tons of "free points" which helps in shortening the match time and save effort/avoid extra taxing for your body.

It's also a fact that big servers don't do very well for this stat.

Sampras at 8+7 in 984 matches does worse than Nadal and about equal with Djokovic.

Roddick has 13+2 in 825 matches, so he does worse than Djokovic.

Karlovic is at 10+0 in 499 matches and does a bit worse than Roddick again.

Dmitry Verdasco
11-20-2014, 09:48 AM
Litotes exposing this flop thread! Gather ha!

Qampunen
11-20-2014, 01:15 PM
I know Tipsarevic is currently without a ranking, but as he used to be a top player
(hope he makes a nice comeback next season), he has played 481 matches and has retired in... 19!

This could be a record. :wavey:

Heal soon Janko. At least you are a fighter and play matches where others give up and don't even show up on court.

Go Tipsy! :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

Qampunen
11-20-2014, 01:21 PM
Nicolas Kiefer retired in 20 matches but played a total of 640 matches.

Qampunen
11-20-2014, 01:37 PM
Michael Russell "Iron Mike" has retired 33 times.
I know he is 36 years old and has been 16 years on Tour,
but it's still quite a number of retirements...:rolleyes:

Joey Tribbiani
04-15-2015, 02:33 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, your legend, the reigning, defending, undisputed G.O.A.T. of Tennis.


http://i.imgur.com/5NHT2un.jpg

Orka_n
04-15-2015, 02:35 PM
We know mate. Yes it's hella impressive when you've played so many matches. A couple of times the last 2 years he probably should have retired though when he's been visibly hampered. No retirements is a record that Roger is very proud of though.

Suprised to see that JMac only did it once though. (They're not counting when he got defaulted I guess lolz)

Rustie
04-15-2015, 02:35 PM
Neither has Cilic.

YodaKnowsBest
04-15-2015, 02:37 PM
Federer doesnt play them either... London 2014. Djokovic atleast tries.

Johnny Groove
04-15-2015, 02:37 PM
...except that one time he did

http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/tournaments/tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1030000107

Joey Tribbiani
04-15-2015, 02:38 PM
Neither has Cilic.

Well, you know mate, we talking about multi Slam winners and great champions here..

Orka_n
04-15-2015, 02:38 PM
...except that one time he did

http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/tournaments/tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1030000107Juniors, Johnny? Really? What happened to you.

YodaKnowsBest
04-15-2015, 02:38 PM
Roddick more retirements than Djokovic? Oh the irony...

Sapeod
04-15-2015, 02:39 PM
I thought this a well known fact? Very impressive though, but not entirely surprising :shrug:

This is the first time I've seen Andy's figure for this too. Only three times is not bad at all :yeah:

Matthew2408
04-15-2015, 02:40 PM
Murray retired in Hamburg 2007 and Rome 2013 (ironically both on his birthday!) But when was the other one?


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Wi$$ard
04-15-2015, 02:47 PM
Interesting how Frauddick has more retirements than djoker. TRASH MOUTH EXPOSED.

Chris Kuerten
04-15-2015, 02:49 PM
Great doctors ;) :)

Beta2k
04-15-2015, 02:50 PM
3 w.o. in his whole career: http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqqF6

Beta2k
04-15-2015, 02:51 PM
lol: nadal only one w.o. in his career: http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqqF6
djoko: 0 w.o. in his career: http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=NovakDjokovic&f=ACareerqqF4

Sapeod
04-15-2015, 02:55 PM
lol: nadal only one w.o. in his career: http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqqF6
djoko: 0 w.o. in his career: http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=NovakDjokovic&f=ACareerqqF4
A whole two/three more walkovers than them. What a substantial amount that is.

ne znam ali mozda
04-15-2015, 03:14 PM
So what? We knew this. Is this a news?

Sapeod
04-15-2015, 03:16 PM
So what? We knew this. Is this a news?
It's a fairly impressive, though largely irrelevant, statistic to have, would you not agree?

JoWilly
04-15-2015, 04:29 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, your legend, the reigning, defending, undisputed G.O.A.T. of Tennis.


http://i.imgur.com/5NHT2un.jpg

He is the GOAT but why does him never retiring prove that? There are times when he has been visibly ailing and should have retired. If you are injured and feel you can't carry on, why should you?

MTO's I understand. Nadal has had many tactical MTO's when his opponents are dominating or are serving for the sets. That is unacceptable. Roger can be praised for lack of MTO's. Players can use them to their advantage, but you get no advantage by retiring from a match.