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AO R1: Federer def Andreev 4-6 6-2 7-6(2) 6-0

samanosuke
01-19-2010, 05:34 AM
Another deliver from Andreev's factory

MIMIC
01-19-2010, 05:36 AM
I could swear I've posted in this thread 3 or 4 times already :rolleyes:

The Hall of Shame welcomes its newest member: Igor Andreev

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:36 AM
choke job of century! But Roger came through and played as well as he could in the 4th set. I know there are a lot of haters in this forum but you'd agree as tennis fans that those blockbuster matches are worth seeing so yes. let's hope Roger and Nikolai meet. It's going to be a great match.

nsidhan
01-19-2010, 05:36 AM
Man...talk about hanging in there. GOAT marches on :worship:

starr_00
01-19-2010, 05:36 AM
Oh Jeez. There were so many opportunities for Andreev in this one. It was physically painful watching each one slip away from him.

tennisfan856
01-19-2010, 05:37 AM
These matches are the worst, should've been 5 sets if it wasn't for the choker.

And then you mentally check out completely in the fourth set, very disappointing.

theseth1119
01-19-2010, 05:37 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but of the top 8 guys, didn't Rogie have the highest ranked 1st round opponent at no. 37?

thedesertsun
01-19-2010, 05:37 AM
Epic choke by Andreev... Federer ist the luckiest guy on this planet... :lol:

RogerFan82
01-19-2010, 05:38 AM
Roger looked old, tired and soft for most of the match. Pick it up Rog.

philosophicalarf
01-19-2010, 05:38 AM
Ludicrous choking. Andreev serving for the 3rd set, had 30-0, and Fed pinged one off the netcord. Although he had setpoints after that, he visible deflated. Gave the break away, completely imploded in the tiebreak, and bagelled in the final set. Pathetic.

nsidhan
01-19-2010, 05:39 AM
Epic choke by Andreev... Federer ist the luckiest guy on this planet... :lol:

I don't think Andreev choked. Fed just hung in there, dug deep into his reserves at the end of that 3rd set and won. He just put more balls in play and forced Andreev to make the error. Plus he made adjustments with the bh slice return of serve.

EnriqueIG8
01-19-2010, 05:39 AM
In soccer/football this are the matches which decides whether or not you'll gonna be champion or not. Playing like shit for some long time and still scraping through.

Hope this is a wake up call for Roger though. Gotta give credit to Igor too for playing really well for 3 sets.

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:39 AM
The recipe to beat Andreev:

1. Give him the first set.
2. Since he'll check out in the 2nd, give him a couple of breaks in the third.
3. Let him have 5 or more set points. .... You win the game as he chokes everytime. Why change anything?

Audacity
01-19-2010, 05:40 AM
Set points for Andreev on serve in the 3rd set and from then on it was all one-way traffic.

Corey Feldman
01-19-2010, 05:40 AM
if Fed gets to QF/SF of this event (which he should now) he will be thrashed by whoever opponent is

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:40 AM
In soccer/football this are the matches which decides whether or not you'll gonna be champion or not. Playing like shit for some long time and still scraping through.

Hope this is a wake up call for Roger though. Gotta give credit to Igor too for playing really well for 3 sets.

I am not too worried. Andreev has always been a tough match up for Roger. Don't know why.

EternalxJourney
01-19-2010, 05:40 AM
Whew! Glad Roger got through this match. 4th set was sublime.

Puschkin
01-19-2010, 05:40 AM
Nothing new with Igor. Good for Roger who got much better in the forth.

Noleta
01-19-2010, 05:41 AM
Don't know how,but Fed did it again:worship:

Andreev will cry himself to sleep:hug:

barbadosan
01-19-2010, 05:41 AM
There you have it: the reason why Rog is No 1 and Andreev is ranked 37th. 'Nuff said.

recessional
01-19-2010, 05:42 AM
roger, fucking asshole. :ras:

Hewitt =Legend
01-19-2010, 05:42 AM
Damn Igor, really had a chance to put the arrogant one out in round 1. Way to tentative on his 3 set points and after that tiebreak he was never coming back in the 4th.

Cakewalk now for fed until Hewitt/Baghdatis.

Rita
01-19-2010, 05:42 AM
Good luck for the rest of the tournament is all I can say.

Noleta
01-19-2010, 05:42 AM
I don't think Andreev choked. Fed just hung in there, dug deep into his reserves at the end of that 3rd set and won. He just put more balls in play and forced Andreev to make the error. Plus he made adjustments with the bh slice return of serve.

:spit::haha:

Macbrother
01-19-2010, 05:42 AM
Yep, the first three sets was a mugathon of the absolute highest order, Federer having massive timing issues and the utter inability to hit a DTL backhand, allowing Andreev to just sit in his backhand corner and control the points with his huge inside-out forehand. Predictably, Andreev found ways to choke it away and then Federer finally found a bit of timing, some vintage stuff and closed it out in the 4th. See ya next round, champ.

Haelfix
01-19-2010, 05:43 AM
This was not a choke folks. Andreev was physically blasted, and you could see the writing on the wall midway through the third. Even if he got the 3rd set, he had nothing left in the tank after that.

It reminded me a bit of the Monfils-Nadal match from last year, where the former was going for so much every point and running so much, that he burned through all his fuel by the third set.

I thought Andreev had a beautiful match, and I thought Federer looked fine.

habibko
01-19-2010, 05:43 AM
1st set: Andreev was NIDly on fire and Federer was too sloppy to keep up with him.

2nd set: Federer shifted gears and Andreev played worse than the 2st set, the forehand to win the set was :hearts: :worship:

3rd set: Federer was HORRIBLE in most of this set, he kept playing too passively and played some ridiculously bad points, in the end as Fed put it he was fortunate to win it, Andreev had all the chances to win it but he choked it and the forehand deserted him when he was serving for it at *6-5 and had 3 set points all missed with the forehand, Federer was mentally the tougher player in the TB as usual and won it comfortablly.

4th set: Federer loosened up and started playing more aggressively and Andreev checked out later on after being down a double break, a highlight of this set was a Nadalesque forehand on the run by Fed :worship:

a good test for Roger, should be the toughest match for him from the 1st 3 rounds.

Clydey
01-19-2010, 05:44 AM
I have uploaded an HD capture of this match to http://www.tennishaven.com

Terrible choke from Andreev. He really is a terrible competitor. If he had any balls, he would have won this match.

Sunset of Age
01-19-2010, 05:44 AM
Whoopsie. :tape:
Andreev blew a massive chance to go up 2-1 sets at 6*-5 in the third (blowing three... THREE setpoints, no? :o). What a joke, what a choke!!!
After that it was indeed one-way-traffic.
Nice practice job, Feds. :help:

No way he gets past Djoko or Denko playing like that.

RogerFan82
01-19-2010, 05:45 AM
Ludicrous choking. Andreev serving for the 3rd set, had 30-0, and Fed pinged one off the netcord. Although he had setpoints after that, he visible deflated. Gave the break away, completely imploded in the tiebreak, and bagelled in the final set. Pathetic.

Wow you conveniently forgot to mention 2 lucky netcords back to back that andreev had at 3-5* down in the 3rd set that really pissed federer off and helped Andreev win the game. Else it should have been 6-3 for Rog in the 3rd.

Arkulari
01-19-2010, 05:45 AM
this was a mugathon, Roger and Andreev were choking, choking and choking, the third set was really pathetic, WTA like serving except for Roger in the TB

No MP lost for Andreev, but he did choke in the third after Roger himself choked

Kolya is gonna kill Roger if he keeps playing like this :o

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:45 AM
Let's face it. This match was not too pretty to watch. I give Andreev a lot of credit. He hasn't had the best of years. But he's got Kirilenko, so he is the winner in that department.

sawan66278
01-19-2010, 05:46 AM
Federer did not win this match. Andreev lost it. Lucky net cord saves fed from triple set point. And the Andreev misses on three set points...pretty much in the same fashion (trying VERY tough shots off Fed slices...attempting to hit forehands down the line). Last hurrah for Igor...go back to the lab.

Federer? The semi streak ends in this tourney...and NOT RG. Believe me: the locker room is buzzing...because they know the man can be beaten.

Macbrother
01-19-2010, 05:47 AM
To add, and to be fair, there was a lot of wind that affected much of the groundstrokes for both players, particularly if you were on the side against it.

Also the 4th was no choke, Federer looked pretty good, with the form displayed there he can do something.

Smoke944
01-19-2010, 05:47 AM
I honestly think Murray would beat Federror like 6-2 6-3 6-2 or something right now, hilarious.

Rommella
01-19-2010, 05:47 AM
I don't think Andreev choked. Fed just hung in there, dug deep into his reserves at the end of that 3rd set and won. He just put more balls in play and forced Andreev to make the error. Plus he made adjustments with the bh slice return of serve.


Saw it the same way.

EnriqueIG8
01-19-2010, 05:48 AM
Roger really had himself to blame. At *3-1 in the first set he played a sloppy game and after that he unleashed the genie out of the bottle by playing spin rallies to Andreev forehand. Well he scraped through again.

This match reminded me of the Acasuso match in RG 2009 when Roger was on his way down in the third, still took it and won a routine 4th set. Hope the end result will be the same too.

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:48 AM
Federer did not win this match. Andreev lost it. Lucky net cord saves fed from triple set point. And the Andreev misses on three set points...pretty much in the same fashion (trying VERY tough shots off Fed slices...attempting to hit forehands down the line). Last hurrah for Igor...go back to the lab.

Federer? The semi streak ends in this tourney...and NOT RG. Believe me: the locker room is buzzing...because they know the man can be beaten.

Come on. Don't say that. Andreev had Roger running at the US Open as well but lost in 5. He is just a tough match up in windy days. Even if he had won the third set, Roger would have won in 5. Besides. I really don't get a lot of you guys. I know you hate Roger. But why have him lose in the first round? I am a fan of Roger but if he is too lose, I rather seem him go down against a top player in a blockbuster match not against someone who has no business beating him.

osalsyst
01-19-2010, 05:49 AM
And once again tennis proves to be ridiculously predictable. Nice one Andreev.

sawan66278
01-19-2010, 05:49 AM
Oh...and can Mirka stop acting like its the end of the world when Federer is in trouble? He's got the records...how about a reality and perspective check?:rolleyes:

EnriqueIG8
01-19-2010, 05:49 AM
this was a mugathon, Roger and Andreev were choking, choking and choking, the third set was really pathetic, WTA like serving except for Roger in the TB

No MP lost for Andreev, but he did choke in the third after Roger himself choked

Kolya is gonna kill Roger if he keeps playing like this :o

I don't think Kolya is even getting to the QF's. He needs to get by Verdasco first.
Roger himself need to get by an in form Baghdatis, Ferrer or Hewitt first too.

Voo de Mar
01-19-2010, 05:49 AM
Andreev and his neverending adventure of losing setpoints and tie-breaks in the third set :lol:

Michael Bluth
01-19-2010, 05:50 AM
Federer was pretty lucky to escape in four, but also unlucky to get broken back at 5-3.

That said, many have played crap early matches and gone on to win the tournament. See Federer vs. Acasuso at RG 2009 or Del Potro vs Koellerer USO 2009.

Haelfix
01-19-2010, 05:50 AM
Federer was a little sloppy in the third, I think the wind was bothering him a little bit and his timing was off. Otoh a lot of that was due to Andreev. His forehand is incredibly heavy and penetrating, somewhat Nadalesque. Running forehands where you are stretched and the ball is over your head is not easy.

sawan66278
01-19-2010, 05:51 AM
Roger really had himself to blame. At *3-1 in the first set he played a sloppy game and after that he unleashed the genie out of the bottle by playing spin rallies to Andreev forehand. Well he scraped through again.

This match reminded me of the Acasuso match in RG 2009 when Roger was on his way down in the third, still took it and won a routine 4th set. Hope the end result will be the same too.

It won't. Too many real players in the draw who believe that Fed is vulnerable...thinking, "if Igor the choker can almost take him, why not me?"

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:54 AM
It won't. Too many real players in the draw who believe that Fed is vulnerable...thinking, "if Igor the choker can almost take him, why not me?"
We have heard this before. If Fed is going down, it'll be to a top player. At least for now Roger is very tough to beat in slams. Hewitt, Davydenko can push him but Novak is the most dangerous enroute to final. There of course we can have Nadal, Murray, or Del Po. One or 3 bad matches in a row don't mean roger is finished. Get a grip.

crude oil
01-19-2010, 05:55 AM
lol.

everyone is acting like andreev is a mug. he played at a high level today and was imposing his game on federer from the baseline which few can do. This was by far the toughest 1st round opponent for roger and he played tough and hung in there. Murray, nadal and djoko would also have difficulty with the way andreev was playing today.

Rita
01-19-2010, 05:55 AM
Oh...and can Mirka stop acting like its the end of the world when Federer is in trouble? He's got the records...how about a reality and perspective check?:rolleyes:

So a woman is not allowed to be nervous when watching her man?

recessional
01-19-2010, 05:56 AM
Oh...and can Mirka stop acting like its the end of the world when Federer is in trouble? He's got the records...how about a reality and perspective check?:rolleyes:

stop whining about trivial things.

alter ego
01-19-2010, 05:56 AM
I have uploaded an HD capture of this match to http://www.tennishaven.com

Terrible choke from Andreev. He really is a terrible competitor. If he had any balls, he would have won this match.

:haha:
Haters will be haters. Andreev has drained out of energy midway through the 3rd set after Federer started to use the slice more often.
It was no choke you clowns. Roger got back some serious inside-out FH to stay alive in the 3rd.

Arkulari
01-19-2010, 05:57 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2vv5hjm.jpg

Roger is usually struggling in early rounds nowadays, but this was too much, any other player would have taken him to 5 at least :o

dj_mercury
01-19-2010, 05:58 AM
Also the 4th was no choke, Federer looked pretty good, with the form displayed there he can do something.
You cannot really judge the fourth set, especially given the third set evolution. Who didn't expect Andreev to collapse in the fourth?
Only the first three sets were competitive and Federer didn't give really any positive sign. Andreev game is so flawed, yet Federer wasn't able to take advantage of it. Also his lack of killer instinct is costing him unnecessary energies: 2005 Fed would have won this in 3 sets, no way he would have gifted back a break in the first set the way he did and as a consequence the third set would have never become a nerves affair.

SheepleBuster
01-19-2010, 05:58 AM
So a woman is not allowed to be nervous when watching her man?
It's just pure hate I am feeling. Fed was in trouble with those set points. Of course, Mirka was nervous. People who say that have never watched a loved one play. If your son, your daughter or your sister is playing, wouldn't you be nervous? jeez. I don't like Mirka but that's like a lame excuse to bash her

habibko
01-19-2010, 05:59 AM
It won't. Too many real players in the draw who believe that Fed is vulnerable...thinking, "if Igor the choker can almost take him, why not me?"

like whom exactly? there is obviously Davydenko in the QF, but who has huge weapons like Andreev to pull it off? doubt Baghdatis can keep it up long enough, Hewitt? don't think so, maybe Ferrer can, but he can be a headcase and can't really be trusted (even if he seems to be on fire so far).

we all know Fed is not as good as he once was, but he is still good enough to win the first round of a GS, some people REALLY need a reality check...

abraxas21
01-19-2010, 05:59 AM
for igor it was a combination of bad luck, fed returning well at clutch moments and, yes, his own choking.


that said, i think fed will be defeated eventually in this tournament. i just want him to do relatively well so that he can maintain his ranking and be in a good position to keep it for the next months in order to break sampras' record.

philosophicalarf
01-19-2010, 06:02 AM
Fed was never going to lose even if he had lost that 3rd set, sure. Still, you could have given Andreev 50 setpoints and he'd have hit every one out of court. Carbon copy of Almugro trying to finish off Nadal.

oranges
01-19-2010, 06:05 AM
:haha: Oh, well there goes my dream of unexpected big bucks. For a moment, I thought it might happen since Andreev showed some good form after God knows how long, but apparently it doesn't matter.

rolandgarros
01-19-2010, 06:06 AM
Epic Chokers

Mjau!
01-19-2010, 06:08 AM
What a spartan this Roger! That was an absolutely titanic comeback in the third set! Andreev had that set locked up, but Fed just refused to give up and showed amazing heart in turning it around! You could tell Igor's spirit was broken after Rogie clinched the TB from the jaws of defeat and the bagel was never in doubt from then on. :worship: :bowdown: :woohoo:

TheBoiledEgg
01-19-2010, 06:08 AM
Igor must have been worn out the night before

horrible choke Igor :tape: and then gave up

jaana
01-19-2010, 06:08 AM
well, he played better than I expected, did Igor.
hope he can get some wins now in upcoming tournaments.

he really seams to be a bad match up for Fed for some reason, though. maybe Igor will get a win over him in a best-of-three someday

Bascule
01-19-2010, 06:09 AM
Awww, sawan, the love with fedtards lasted too short? :lol:

Federerhingis
01-19-2010, 06:10 AM
Fed was never going to lose even if he had lost that 3rd set, sure. Still, you could have given Andreev 50 setpoints and he'd have hit every one out of court. Carbon copy of Almugro trying to finish off Nadal.

I wouldn't even say that would have been a guarantee, but Federer is the fitter of the two players and would have had the advantage going into the fifth set, his stamina has been proven to be the better among these two players; despite Rogers visible continued physical decline.

Arkulari
01-19-2010, 06:12 AM
well, he played better than I expected, did Igor.
hope he can get some wins now in upcoming tournaments.

he really seams to be a bad match up for Fed for some reason, though. maybe Igor will get a win over him in a best-of-three someday

topspin forehand

MrChopin
01-19-2010, 06:14 AM
Story of the match in three parts:

- Fed can't hit a dtl BH to save his life
- Andreev reading Fed's serve well
- Bitter haters, once hopeful, now crying

Topspin Forehand
01-19-2010, 06:15 AM
What a choke artist this Andreev. :mad:

paseo
01-19-2010, 06:16 AM
Fed topspin backhand was crap. It's short and loopy, right into Andreev forehand hitting zone. He started using his slice more often at crucial points in the 3rd. I think that won him the set.
Like Roddick said, we seldom give him credit for this, Fed toughed it out. Next.

Lleyton_
01-19-2010, 06:17 AM
Tons of angry and disappointed posters :lol: Maybe next tound.

*Jean*
01-19-2010, 06:18 AM
Igor :sad: Good to have resister longer than expected though!

sammy01
01-19-2010, 06:19 AM
wasn't impressed by fed, he got bossed about for 2 of the 1st 3 sets. igor as was always going to happen didn't take his chances. it did show fed is vunerable and should give heart to others in the draw that aren't as mentally weak as igor.

dylan24
01-19-2010, 06:21 AM
good for the game.
i'm so sick of andreev and kirilenko.
they'd be all over the news if fixer beat roger.
now hope someone gives kirilenko a beatdown

RogerFan82
01-19-2010, 06:36 AM
I can't see Roger winning a Hardcourt slam anymore. Maybe the US open if he can get up for the challenge once more. Post 2008, his best surfaces have been Grass >>>>>>>>>>> Clay > HC. I really hope he can prove me wrong and win this AO, but i don't see it.

Stroba
01-19-2010, 06:40 AM
You cannot really judge the fourth set, especially given the third set evolution. Who didn't expect Andreev to collapse in the fourth?
Only the first three sets were competitive and Federer didn't give really any positive sign. Andreev game is so flawed, yet Federer wasn't able to take advantage of it. Also his lack of killer instinct is costing him unnecessary energies: 2005 Fed would have won this in 3 sets, no way he would have gifted back a break in the first set the way he did and as a consequence the third set would have never become a nerves affair.

Agreed.

What worries me most is Federer´s lack of confidence. Yes he can still play at a high level like he did in the 4th. But had Igor won the 3rd, I doubt Fed would have played that well in the 4th.
I thought Roger was so tentative for most of the 3rd, like he had no belief in his own ability.

Well, let´s just hope Roger only remembers the last set from this match and continues from there. I only fear that Roger will be in trouble against anyone who will show enough resistance against him.

Good luck Fed!

lazybear
01-19-2010, 06:48 AM
I have uploaded an HD capture of this match to http://www.tennishaven.com

Thanks Clydey.


Terrible choke from Andreev. He really is a terrible competitor. If he had any balls, he would have won this match.

There is nothing that indicates he wouldn't have gone down in 5. Roger did it a couple of times, don't act like he's never been there. He had those matches even during his prime, it happens. I'm sure he will pick it up. He has to.

born_on_clay
01-19-2010, 07:04 AM
hard one Roger

Sunset of Age
01-19-2010, 07:07 AM
hard one Roger

How about "One Big Pile of Garbage - only to get out-choked by Andreev"? :p

-Valhalla-
01-19-2010, 07:31 AM
A nice 1st rd. win for Fed but he looked tactically clueless at times in allowing Andreev to dictate play with that run-around forehand. And despite tapping out in the 4th set, I thought Igor gave a pretty good account of himself today.

Beat
01-19-2010, 07:57 AM
I don't think Andreev choked. Fed just hung in there

this. but it sure was a toughie!

iriraz
01-19-2010, 08:08 AM
No top player needs to be in top form early on in slams but win his matches and get better and better with each round.Obviously Andreev would be have been a tough opponent for any top player in the first round cause most of the time they play either qualifiers,way lower ranked opponents or wildcards

Sri
01-19-2010, 08:18 AM
I think I noticed this from RG 09 onwards, Fed is especially vulnerable in the first set.

Guy Haines
01-19-2010, 08:19 AM
It wasn't pretty but a win's a win.

Man, Andreev sure knows how to choke. Makiri needs to beat his ass and show him how to play when it counts. Condolences to Tzar.

It's actually good practice for Federer to have a match like that against Andreev, who has some aspects of Nadal's game (though he lacks quite a few too). Who knows when they'll play next though.

Doggy
01-19-2010, 08:51 AM
Loser choker, why can't these idiots put federer away. grab your balls and check yourself mate!

king_roger
01-19-2010, 09:19 AM
Loser choker, why can't these idiots put federer away. grab your balls and check yourself mate!

Because he's better than all of them :p

virex
01-19-2010, 09:30 AM
that's the difference between kirilenko and andreev.
she has balls, he doesnt.

igor, grow a pair!

gulzhan
01-19-2010, 09:36 AM
I watched the whole match and I am very proud of Andreev. He happened to be not in his best form before this AO, have no idea why but the fact is-- he isn't fit. Still, he managed to take a set of Federer and played great all three first sets. Was a bit unlucky plus those so-called mistaken calls by linesmen :eek: they can make anybody lose spirit :mad:

Thanks, Igor! :yeah:

madmax
01-19-2010, 09:45 AM
1st round opponent, ranked 37 in the world?:eek: Oh well, at least you are through champ, play better next rounds then

scoobs
01-19-2010, 09:49 AM
Potentially a tricky first round, meeting one of the higher ranked non-seeds in the draw first up, still surprised he lost a set but hey, it's all about getting through the first week without killing yourself in the process - this one dropped set is no cause for concern unless it proves to be a sign of things to come.

MariaV
01-19-2010, 10:01 AM
Andreev will cry himself to sleep:hug:

I hope Makiri gave him a good spanking. :o :angel: :devil: :rolleyes: :help:
Well :smash: :banghead: for a measure

Andreev and his neverending adventure of losing setpoints and tie-breaks in the third set :lol:

Tell me about it, Voo. :o

I mean yeah Igor's not in a good shape and wouldn't have won in 5 anyway but this was just ridiculous.

Speed of Light
01-19-2010, 10:02 AM
Fed might as well hand over whatever ranking points and prize money he gets here to Andreev.Clearly he was beaten technically on all fronts out there.The only plausible reason why Andreev The Superman handed over this match to Fed is probably due to mixture of feeling of pity to tournament organizers and utter contempt for this so-called goat.... or maybe he just choked.

Daniel
01-19-2010, 10:12 AM
Well done Roger :clap2: :clap2:

MatchFederer
01-19-2010, 11:14 AM
Fed was moving like a tank but apart from that it wasn't too bad I suppose. He will play himself into the surface over the next couple of rounds most likely. However, his movement doesn't look terribly sharp to me, especially when changing direction.

Jobs a good'un, moving on.

Nole fan
01-19-2010, 11:19 AM
Roger looked old, tired and soft for most of the match. Pick it up Rog.

He can't look old because he's not...oh c'mon.
I think these kind of matches are good, how boring tennis would be if the Top 8 always had easy first rounds...

Corey Feldman
01-19-2010, 11:26 AM
However, his movement doesn't look terribly sharp to me, especially when changing direction.

just noticed? has looked like that to me since 2008 :o

Filo V.
01-19-2010, 11:42 AM
Extremely predictable result.

MatchFederer
01-19-2010, 11:54 AM
just noticed? has looked like that to me since 2008 :o

Funny, but actually his movement is intermittently good. However it was as far as poor today really, and definitely looked more sluggish than he did at the beginning of every single slam event in 09.

Hingisova
01-19-2010, 11:55 AM
Whew!:rolleyes: Close call for Fed..he had to dig down deep into his bag of tricks to wiggle out of this match.:worship:..after capturing the second set Andreev just wilted in the 3rd but did provide some real moments of trouble for Roger..he does have a devastating forehand and it did give him "fits" until Rog managed to right the ship. :D Entertaining match though...it was no "gimmie" right from the get go!

hingisova:wavey:

Rafa = Fed Killa
01-19-2010, 12:32 PM
Pathetic choke by Andreev.

Federer = all luck clown

Certinfy
01-19-2010, 12:33 PM
What a chance this was for Andreev :o

shawshank
01-19-2010, 12:47 PM
This match ruined my night. Such a shame that now Federer has an easy and smooth way to quarters coz otherwise he might be out of the tournament. He became such a pusher. He is like Wozniacki. I hate it!

barbadosan
01-19-2010, 12:53 PM
Pathetic choke by Andreev.

Federer = all luck clown

As someone wiser than me said: Luck is when preparation meets opportunity :)

scarecrows
01-19-2010, 01:01 PM
good win for the transitory champion

Andi-M
01-19-2010, 01:09 PM
Expected performance from Andreev, but Fed on this form may not even get past Hewitt/Baggy.

Sophocles
01-19-2010, 01:11 PM
Funny, but actually his movement is intermittently good. However it was as far as poor today really, and definitely looked more sluggish than he did at the beginning of every single slam event in 09.

Last time I remember being impressed with his movement was the A.O. final last year. He played some superb defence in that match. Though let's not mention the 5th set.

sennoc
01-19-2010, 01:11 PM
This match ruined my night. Such a shame that now Federer has an easy and smooth way to quarters coz otherwise he might be out of the tournament. He became such a pusher. He is like Wozniacki. I hate it!

Logic is not a popular thing between Nadal fans, as we can see...

rocketassist
01-19-2010, 01:16 PM
Sums up tennis when at 40-30 6-5 I still knew Fed would win in four despite being a crock of shit.

Yves.
01-19-2010, 01:25 PM
Passive in first set, after that a nice match from Federer, he needs some match practice.

theseth1119
01-19-2010, 01:28 PM
Of the top guys, didn't he have the highest ranked guy? Andreev is like #37 (36 with the withdrawal of Gilles Simon). It seems like he had the toughest first round opponent of any of the top guys, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Macbrother
01-19-2010, 02:18 PM
You cannot really judge the fourth set, especially given the third set evolution. Who didn't expect Andreev to collapse in the fourth?
Only the first three sets were competitive and Federer didn't give really any positive sign. Andreev game is so flawed, yet Federer wasn't able to take advantage of it. Also his lack of killer instinct is costing him unnecessary energies: 2005 Fed would have won this in 3 sets, no way he would have gifted back a break in the first set the way he did and as a consequence the third set would have never become a nerves affair.

Not really making a judgment. It was windy and overall a very sloppy day for Federer, it's not like Fed never had 4 set matches in slams in '05 either. All I'm saying is in the 4th, he suddenly was able to pass cross-court decently, find his DTL backhand and not give away blatant errors. Whether that can translate to solid form across 5-sets against a first class player of course remains to be seen.

miura
01-19-2010, 02:23 PM
I certainly didn't expect Roger to have this bad timing on his shots. Andreev played his best tennis and Roger couldn't deploy any game at all. Fortunately for Roger, Andreev couldn't keep the level neccessary to win up and Fed just weathered the storm.

Hopefully the timing will be better for next round for Rog.

heya
01-19-2010, 03:13 PM
any other player would have taken him to 5 at least :oHe rushed to his sweetheart Federer's Hit for Haiti exhibition. A 27-year-old Roddick believed everyone enjoyed his tiresome, gutteral loser moans at the "heroic event".

No doubt he'd happily choke set points against Federer. Easy 3 sets, because Andreev has more brain cells than the US bitch. In the stadium this week, Rod's mom looked like a train smashed her face. I guess there won't be Davis Cups & tennis in the near future... :o

On tennis channel, clown Santoro also said Federer was toughest for him.... LOL

Everko
01-19-2010, 03:22 PM
Federer. I am not impressed

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
01-19-2010, 03:41 PM
all you Fed haters need to go visit get-a-life-you-hater.com

and for your information

any real tennis connoisseur would know Andreev is a very bad match up for Roger- very top spinnny to the back hand with an excellent kicker that really hurts the Feddy BH

of course- Federer is superman, and if he really wanted, he could have adjusted his tactics and RUN AROUND THAT BLOODY 2ND SERVE BECAUSE THE DOUCHE ALWAYS SERVES TO THE BH AND IF YOU RUN AROUND IT YOU CAN HIT A FH WINNER EVERYTIME ROGER!!!!

anyway, Roger is too good to adjust for anyone and he won anyway

Bagelicious
01-19-2010, 05:01 PM
There is nothing that indicates he wouldn't have gone down in 5. Roger did it a couple of times, don't act like he's never been there. He had those matches even during his prime, it happens. I'm sure he will pick it up. He has to.

No top player needs to be in top form early on in slams but win his matches and get better and better with each round.Obviously Andreev would be have been a tough opponent for any top player in the first round cause most of the time they play either qualifiers,way lower ranked opponents or wildcards

Of the top guys, didn't he have the highest ranked guy? Andreev is like #37 (36 with the withdrawal of Gilles Simon). It seems like he had the toughest first round opponent of any of the top guys, but correct me if I'm wrong.

What's with people acting like Roger having a tough match in the early rounds of a GS is something new? As lazybear points out, this used to happen even in his prime.

The bitter messages from those who were desperately wishing for an upset are hilarious though. :lol:

MatchFederer
01-19-2010, 05:08 PM
He rushed to his sweetheart Federer's Hit for Haiti exhibition. A 27-year-old Roddick believed everyone enjoyed his tiresome, gutteral loser moans at the "heroic event".

No doubt he'd happily choke set points against Federer. Easy 3 sets, because Andreev has more brain cells than the US bitch. In the stadium this week, Rod's mom looked like a train smashed her face. I guess there won't be Davis Cups & tennis in the near future... :o

On tennis channel, clown Santoro also said Federer was toughest for him.... LOL


I love you so much.

Please marry me.


(WTF???)

sawan66278
01-19-2010, 05:10 PM
We have heard this before. If Fed is going down, it'll be to a top player. At least for now Roger is very tough to beat in slams. Hewitt, Davydenko can push him but Novak is the most dangerous enroute to final. There of course we can have Nadal, Murray, or Del Po. One or 3 bad matches in a row don't mean roger is finished. Get a grip.

Watch out for Baghdatis if he gets to the fourth.

like whom exactly? there is obviously Davydenko in the QF, but who has huge weapons like Andreev to pull it off? doubt Baghdatis can keep it up long enough, Hewitt? don't think so, maybe Ferrer can, but he can be a headcase and can't really be trusted (even if he seems to be on fire so far).

we all know Fed is not as good as he once was, but he is still good enough to win the first round of a GS, some people REALLY need a reality check...

I'm telling you: if Bags makes it that far, he can take Roger out.

Oh...and other quick point: Patrick McEnroe has reached a new low. Last night, he, time and time again after every Andreev choke, almost yelled in complete joy about how Federer's play saved him. Federer, to be honest, did NOTHING but keep the ball back for a few shots on Andreev's set points. Yes, Fed survived, but its disgusting to see a so-called tennis expert blather on and on, trying to convince viewers that Fed is never lucky: just too good.:rolleyes:

Sophocles
01-19-2010, 05:15 PM
I'm telling you: if Bags makes it that far, he can take Roger out.

I actually agree with this. Baghdatis has given Federer a scare in the past & if he plays well & Federer plays shit, he could be in with a shout. Though I still think Federer would probably tough it out.

yonexforever
01-19-2010, 05:57 PM
Andreev is a BEAST off that forehand.
This was a fun match to watch and listen to.
The ball of his racket was like a cannon!
Federer was lucky Andreev is a mental midget!
That is the scariest forehand i have seen since Pin Pin!
Not even GOnzo or Blake clout forehands like that!Oh wait...
Del Po gets an honorable mention!

ChinoRios4Ever
01-19-2010, 07:25 PM
expected result and outcome of the match

abraxas21
01-19-2010, 07:36 PM
its disgusting to see a so-called tennis expert blather on and on, trying to convince viewers that Fed is never lucky: just too good.:rolleyes:


he is, though.

Bargearse
01-19-2010, 07:50 PM
I finally got to see Roger play for the first time in person & was kind of thinking he might have a tough day at the office. Not surprised he lost the first set. He wasn't even out of 1st gear. He looked kind of disinterested and his play was erratic. I left the match to go and watch 1 set of the Gulbis Monaco match knowing full well Federer would come back and sure enough, he did. Andreev looked really good and it was disappointing so see him lose the 3rd set in that fashion. He should have taken it - and then the final set was over in the amount of time it took to get an order of hot chips from the kiosk. Expected result I suppose, but obviously Federer will have to find better form.

MrChopin
01-19-2010, 08:05 PM
Oh...and other quick point: Patrick McEnroe has reached a new low. Last night, he, time and time again after every Andreev choke, almost yelled in complete joy about how Federer's play saved him. Federer, to be honest, did NOTHING but keep the ball back for a few shots on Andreev's set points. Yes, Fed survived, but its disgusting to see a so-called tennis expert blather on and on, trying to convince viewers that Fed is never lucky: just too good.:rolleyes:

The irony of this statement, coming from you, knows no limits.

DrJules
01-19-2010, 09:18 PM
The Andreev top spin off forehand into the backhand corner had a good day and made life difficult

Corey Feldman
01-19-2010, 10:01 PM
ppl talking about Andreev's "choke" are forgetting Fed was 5-3 up some 10 minutes earlier

habibko
01-19-2010, 10:09 PM
ppl talking about Andreev's "choke" are forgetting Fed was 5-3 up some 10 minutes earlier

that game in which Fed got broken was one of the strangest I ever see Fed play, Andreev got 2 consecutive net cords and Fed had an easy putaway smash on the 2nd one and played it softly right into Andreev, Fed didn't seem to believe the net cords + the way he played and totally lost his concentration afterwards, as if he conceded the game beforehand.

and then when serving at *5-5, he played such a bad game it was as if he wanted to get broken on purpose, fucked up shit I tell ya.. luckily he still got away with all this and won the set >_>

DrJules
01-19-2010, 10:25 PM
that game in which Fed got broken was one of the strangest I ever see Fed play, Andreev got 2 consecutive net cords and Fed had an easy putaway smash on the 2nd one and played it softly right into Andreev, Fed didn't seem to believe the net cords + the way he played and totally lost his concentration afterwards, as if he conceded the game beforehand.

and then when serving at *5-5, he played such a bad game it was as if he wanted to get broken on purpose, fucked up shit I tell ya.. luckily he still got away with all this and won the set >_>

The serve breaks were all at one end and related to the wind direction.

Mechlan
01-19-2010, 10:28 PM
The serve breaks were all at one end and related to the wind direction.

I left this match at Federer *5-3 in the third and figured it was over. How the hell did he manage to get broken with the wind behind him at that point?

habibko
01-19-2010, 10:29 PM
The serve breaks were all at one end and related to the wind direction.

I hope that's the case, he did mention he struggled with the wind at times, there is little to explain that erratic play otherwise.

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Courier loved that compliment for sure ;)

Modetopia
01-19-2010, 10:39 PM
shaky, struggle, but escaped a major upset, kinda get used to.....

paseo
01-19-2010, 11:46 PM
Oh...and other quick point: Patrick McEnroe has reached a new low. Last night, he, time and time again after every Andreev choke, almost yelled in complete joy about how Federer's play saved him. Federer, to be honest, did NOTHING but keep the ball back for a few shots on Andreev's set points. Yes, Fed survived, but its disgusting to see a so-called tennis expert blather on and on, trying to convince viewers that Fed is never lucky: just too good.:rolleyes:

If Nadal did it, Spartan!

If Murray did it, Smart Play!

If Djokovic did it, Great Defense!

If Fed did it,... Luck!

Jimnik
01-19-2010, 11:50 PM
When was the last time Federer dropped a set 1st round of a slam?

BlackSilver
01-19-2010, 11:52 PM
Terrible opportunity wasted by Andreev, with the way the can dominate Federer's second serve, he had the third set in the bag.
Another good showing of how mentally strong Federer is

habibko
01-19-2010, 11:57 PM
When was the last time Federer dropped a set 1st round of a slam?

USO 2003 R1: Federer def. Acasuso 5-7, 6-3, 6-3, 2-0 ret.

Jimnik
01-20-2010, 12:06 AM
USO 2003 R1: Federer def. Acasuso 5-7, 6-3, 6-3, 2-0 ret.
Thanks. I knew it had been a while.

He only made the 4th round of that one.

chenx15
01-20-2010, 01:36 AM
when i saw the draw i know it's going to be a tough one for roger. good thing it wasn't as bad as i though it would be

elessar
01-20-2010, 01:53 AM
The serve breaks were all at one end and related to the wind direction.

I hope that's the case, he did mention he struggled with the wind at times, there is little to explain that erratic play otherwise.

Andreev was asked about it, he seems to have struggled with it too. Even at his very best during AO 07 Roger was involved in a total breakathlon in his QF match against Robredo, though his play was miles better.
Q. What did you feel when you were up serving for that third set? Did you have a feeling that, wow, I might be able to beat Roger Federer today?

IGOR ANDREEV: [...] from the beginning of that game, I knew that it was gonna be difficult, because on this side the wind was a little bit breezier, the wind was against.

All the third set, the breaks went from the guy who was serving on that side. So it was breaking. I started 3‑Love, and maybe there was a little bit concentration went away. So I thought that it's already in my pocket, and that was a real mistake. Not technique, but just another lose of concentration.

Then I had few set points, but still, he was on that side, on other side very comfortable with the wind. You know, playing the balls, like deep balls. So actually, I couldn't do much things.

Sri
01-20-2010, 01:56 AM
If Nadal did it, Spartan!

If Murray did it, Smart Play!

If Djokovic did it, Great Defense!

If Fed did it,... Luck!

Haha so true!