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AO Q3: Kindlmann def. Ilhan 7-5 1-6 11-9 (1 MP Saved)

Luinir
01-16-2010, 02:19 AM
WTF Marsel...

orangehat
01-16-2010, 02:20 AM
unreal choking in the last day of qualies :smash:

Snowwy
01-16-2010, 02:22 AM
Disappointing, maybe he will get a LL?

Drikke
01-16-2010, 02:27 AM
Chokers

zoparrat
01-16-2010, 07:09 AM
Jeez. Served for the match 2 times?

KarlyM
01-16-2010, 07:21 AM
Ilhan got the LL - faces Grosjean R1. :)

Bashak
01-16-2010, 09:35 AM
I was gonna write about how disappointed I was but then I saw Karlym's post about the LL spot! yay! I'm glad he's in the MD one way or another.

DarkMarc
01-16-2010, 10:28 AM
i was at this match and i thought it was pretty good quality and really really entertaining to watch. ilhan kinda cramping in the end, really entertaining rallys. but all these stupid ilhan fans, who were attending the match, really kinda destroyed the atmosphere... i mean cheering for your favorite player is one thing, giving standing ovations when your opponent hits a double fault or makes an easy return error is another... and after all, all that the girls could say was "no, that ball wasnt out" (for ilhan) or "that ball was out" (for kindlmann) or insulting the chairman. really disgusting display of ilhan fans...


are ilhan matches always like this? would be a pity, i really like is way of playing, but that was just annoying...

Bashak
01-16-2010, 11:21 AM
i was at this match and i thought it was pretty good quality and really really entertaining to watch. ilhan kinda cramping in the end, really entertaining rallys. but all these stupid ilhan fans, who were attending the match, really kinda destroyed the atmosphere... i mean cheering for your favorite player is one thing, giving standing ovations when your opponent hits a double fault or makes an easy return error is another... and after all, all that the girls could say was "no, that ball wasnt out" (for ilhan) or "that ball was out" (for kindlmann) or insulting the chairman. really disgusting display of ilhan fans...

are ilhan matches always like this? would be a pity, i really like is way of playing, but that was just annoying...

Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the match :) Sorry, for annoying spectators. Please understand that Ilhan is the first turkish tennis player ever to qualify for pretty much anything. I am willing to bet more than half of the people at this match heard his name when he played Isner last year at US Open. That was the first time turkish tv bothered to interview him.

Furthermore, I would say that typical turkish fan behaviour (ttfb) at any kind of sports is to boo the opponent and cheer as loudly as possible at everything, curse when opportunities are missed, curse at the officials/referees -what have you- and sometimes, if your team loses damage the seats, throw whatever you find at whoever you see.

So tennis, with all the politeness and silence at serve and gentlemanly apologies for net chords etc does not really fit in with ttfb. Most of the people probably did not know that it was rude to cheer for a double fault. Most of the people at this match probably do not follow tennis, they found out about it through their turkish community and decided to show up to support the turkish player. Just give them some time, they will eventually learn.

As most of Ilhan's matches in Turkey, the people who attend usually follow tennis and play themselves or their kids play so they know what to cheer for. But this is not entirely true for Davis Cup, if it's a tight match spectators will cheer unforced errors at Davis Cup matches.

Ilhan is a really nice guy with humble roots, he is not at all the aggressive type. I hope you get a chance to watch him play Grosjean and let us know all about it!

Have fun!

CooCooCachoo
01-16-2010, 11:41 AM
i was at this match and i thought it was pretty good quality and really really entertaining to watch. ilhan kinda cramping in the end, really entertaining rallys. but all these stupid ilhan fans, who were attending the match, really kinda destroyed the atmosphere... i mean cheering for your favorite player is one thing, giving standing ovations when your opponent hits a double fault or makes an easy return error is another... and after all, all that the girls could say was "no, that ball wasnt out" (for ilhan) or "that ball was out" (for kindlmann) or insulting the chairman. really disgusting display of ilhan fans...


are ilhan matches always like this? would be a pity, i really like is way of playing, but that was just annoying...

I think Marsel is only just getting this much support. At Wimbledon qualies the last two years there was pretty much no one there to support him. Of course this type of behaviour is wrong, but at the same time it is great to get some sort of ambience at a qualifying event. And I agree with Bashak, Marsel comes across as very humble and very grateful to just be out there. He's a lot of fun to watch and I hope he can keep up the progress.

Anyways, in reply to the people who are disappointed Marsel lost, I think he actually did very well to almost take Kindlmann out. Dieter was going to be one of the toughest guys to draw in the QD and was a favourite to qualify, so I think the score reflects that Marsel is in form. Hopefully he can do some damage in the MD now as a LL.

Luinir
01-16-2010, 12:37 PM
Hahahhaha. I am very very happy for lucky loser spot. :)

JMG
01-16-2010, 12:49 PM
Ilhan beat him 62 63 in Bangkok not long ago, probably that's why he was small fave for the bookies. Without that match, I would have thought Kindlmann is the fave.

Good win for Kindlmann, but he once again he got a terrible draw against Davydenko. Maybe Ilhan has a chance. :yeah:

zoparrat
01-16-2010, 01:58 PM
Will Ilhan earn qualifying points or not now?

Пока
01-17-2010, 01:05 AM
It's disappointing to hear about the bad behaviour from the Ilhan supporters at the match. :( Hopefully if it gets too out of hand, they'll be asked to tone down their support. I love to hear about Marsel getting some support, but you've got to be respectful to the opponent and the officials at the same time.

I was pretty disappointed yesterday following on the livescores seeing him fail to serve it out twice, but now that he's got a LL spot in the MD, it's not so bad. :p I think he can beat Grosjean, especially with 3 matches under his belt.

TMJordan
01-17-2010, 07:46 AM
I was at a match of his at the USO and his group of Turk supports are crazy as fuck, I joined them since I had a bet on Marsel. :cool:

DarkMarc
01-17-2010, 08:33 AM
okay, so im not mad anymore:-) i was intending to watch ilhans match against grosjean, but i have to see if the fans are the same as yesterday... and i agree with u, most of them had absolutely no clue what tennis is about.

anyways, hope the best for ilhan as he really has a nice and entertaining style of play...

Experimentee
01-17-2010, 08:49 AM
In the main draw there are plenty of fan groups that act just like those Turks including Croats, Serbs, Bosnians and Greeks.