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Five Reasons why Nadal will not win AO 2010

tennisphilia
01-15-2010, 11:05 PM
Sure, he's the #2 seed and the defending champion, but Nadal is not the same player as he was last year when he won his first Australian Open. My five reasons why he will not win the Australia Open 2010:

- He will not be able to take the toll of the Australian heat and the 5-set matches
- He hasn't won a tournament since April 2009
- He'll lose to Andy Murray in the quarterfinals
- If he does beat Murray in the quarters, he'll be exhausted that he'll have no energy against del Potro in the semis
- If he does reach the finals, he'll be beaten by either Djokovic, Federer, or maybe even Davydenko

serveandvolley80
01-15-2010, 11:08 PM
Sure, he's the #2 seed and the defending champion, but Nadal is not the same player as he was last year when he won his first Australian Open. My five reasons why he will not win the Australia Open 2010:

- He will not be able to take the toll of the Australian heat and the 5-set matches
- He hasn't won a tournament since April 2009
- He'll lose to Andy Murray in the quarterfinals
- If he does beat Murray in the quarters, he'll be exhausted that he'll have no energy against del Potro in the semis
- If he does reach the finals, he'll be beaten by either Djokovic, Federer, or maybe even Davydenko

Same things were said about Federer in 08 and then the beginning of 09, great players always bounce back.

Guys like Davydenko get hyped up when they get on a roll in three set tournaments, but there is a reason they have never won a grand slam, 2 weeks of intense 5 set matches is not an easy thing to accomplish physically and mentally.

Nadal will be fine, for how much longer remains to be seen, but hes shown some of his old tricks recently by getting a couple of solid results, the wins will come, he just has to get his confidence back, not an easy thing to do when you are on a 6 month streak of no tournament wins.

DrJules
01-15-2010, 11:11 PM
Sure, he's the #2 seed and the defending champion, but Nadal is not the same player as he was last year when he won his first Australian Open. My five reasons why he will not win the Australia Open 2010:

- He will not be able to take the toll of the Australian heat and the 5-set matches (he won 2 successive 5 hour matches last year)
- He hasn't won a tournament since April 2009 (He is the defending champion so knows how to win here)
- He'll lose to Andy Murray in the quarterfinals (Nadal leads head to head 7-2)
- If he does beat Murray in the quarters, he'll be exhausted that he'll have no energy against del Potro in the semis (he won 2 successive 5 hour matches last year)
- If he does reach the finals, he'll be beaten by either Djokovic, Federer, or maybe even Davydenko (possibly agree)

As above

serveandvolley80
01-15-2010, 11:13 PM
he won 2 successive 5 hour matches last year

After those 2 matches last year, to me he has not looked the same since, that can kill your body overnight on a hardcourt, especially player Nadal's style.

tennisphilia
01-15-2010, 11:40 PM
"Nadal leads head to head 7-2"

And Federer led Davydenko 12-0 before Davydenko won twice in a row.
But I do get your point.

Ivanatis
01-15-2010, 11:45 PM
exhaustion is no longer a factor for me, after what he did last year here
plus the schedule isn't as fullpacked as last year in the men's competition

alter ego
01-15-2010, 11:52 PM
-Del Potro
-Davydenko
-Djokovic
-Federer
-Soderling

Those are the best 5 reasons in my book. In that particular order.

born_on_clay
01-15-2010, 11:59 PM
Sure, he's the #2 seed and the defending champion, but Nadal is not the same player as he was last year when he won his first Australian Open. My five reasons why he will not win the Australia Open 2010:

- He will not be able to take the toll of the Australian heat and the 5-set matches
- He hasn't won a tournament since April 2009
- He'll lose to Andy Murray in the quarterfinals
- If he does beat Murray in the quarters, he'll be exhausted that he'll have no energy against del Potro in the semis
- If he does reach the finals, he'll be beaten by either Djokovic, Federer, or maybe even Davydenko

pathetic post

-Del Potro
-Davydenko
-Djokovic
-Federer
-Soderling

Those are the best 5 reasons in my book. In that particular order.

This is more reasonable one

tennisphilia
01-19-2010, 03:46 AM
pathetic post



Pathetic, ey?

He has gone 1-9 against top 10 players since April 2009.
He hasn't beaten a top10 player in a grand slam since Australian Open 2009.
Can he really beat three top 10 players for this Grand Slam?
I highly doubt it!

born_on_clay
01-19-2010, 01:36 PM
Pathetic, ey?

He has gone 1-9 against top 10 players since April 2009.
He hasn't beaten a top10 player in a grand slam since Australian Open 2009.

That's of course the truth

Can he really beat three top 10 players for this Grand Slam?
I highly doubt it!

Of coure he can. Every match is different and you have to take the into consideration the fact Rafa was injured twice in 2009 not mentioning his mental problems


Sure, he's the #2 seed and the defending champion, but Nadal is not the same player as he was last year when he won his first Australian Open. My five reasons why he will not win the Australia Open 2010:

- He will not be able to take the toll of the Australian heat and the 5-set matches
- He hasn't won a tournament since April 2009
- He'll lose to Andy Murray in the quarterfinals
- If he does beat Murray in the quarters, he'll be exhausted that he'll have no energy against del Potro in the semis
- If he does reach the finals, he'll be beaten by either Djokovic, Federer, or maybe even Davydenko

I'm sorry but I don't even want to think about commenting this post...



p.s. I want you to know that I personally don't think Rafa will defend his title :) As much as I would like it to happen I'm trying to be reallistic :)

Ad Wim
01-19-2010, 01:40 PM
Sure, he's the #2 seed and the defending champion, but Nadal is not the same player as he was last year when he won his first Australian Open. My five reasons why he will not win the Australia Open 2010:

- He will not be able to take the toll of the Australian heat and the 5-set matches
- He hasn't won a tournament since April 2009
- He'll lose to Andy Murray in the quarterfinals
- If he does beat Murray in the quarters, he'll be exhausted that he'll have no energy against del Potro in the semis
- If he does reach the finals, he'll be beaten by either Djokovic, Federer, or maybe even Davydenko

The reasons about the fysique are ofcourse nonsense. It's Nadal where we're talking about, he is mister fysique.

And I guess he won't lose to Murray, H2H is 7-2.

The second reason is a significant one though, but maybe he'll be only more eager because of this.

Sophocles
01-19-2010, 02:07 PM
Every one of Nadal's title-less streaks so far has ended. I doubt this one will be different. It may not end here, but only if he runs into an in-form Del Potro, Djokovic, or Davydenko, or in-form Federer or Murray playing out of his skin.

Mechlan
01-19-2010, 04:55 PM
Nadal will win unless someone plays better than him. I wouldn't be surprised if he won, but I wouldn't be surprised if he lost to one of the top guys either. And so far the playing conditions seem to suit him.

tennisphilia
01-23-2010, 08:59 AM
Nadal will win unless someone plays better than him. I wouldn't be surprised if he won, but I wouldn't be surprised if he lost to one of the top guys either. And so far the playing conditions seem to suit him.

He's going to lose in the quarterfinals to MURRAY. That is, if he makes it past Karlovic. I like Nadal too - but I'm just being realistic.

Clydey
01-23-2010, 09:36 AM
The reasons about the fysique are ofcourse nonsense. It's Nadal where we're talking about, he is mister fysique.

And I guess he won't lose to Murray, H2H is 7-2.

The second reason is a significant one though, but maybe he'll be only more eager because of this.

Not sure why people keep bringing up that H2H. 5 of those wins came before Murray had even won his first Masters Title. They are 2-2 since then. Using that H2H is like using Hewitt's wins over Federer to demonstrate how evenly matched they are.

That said, Murray needs to get past Isner before he even gets a shot at Rafa.

Chair Umpire
01-24-2010, 01:06 AM
Favourites are: Fed, Kolya and Delpo. By that order.

00923
01-24-2010, 01:09 AM
Favourites are: Fed, Kolya and Delpo. By that order.

Delpo? Still? His form has been less than impressive.

tyruk14
01-24-2010, 01:20 AM
Juan isn't taking this slam. Roddick's experience and fitness will carry him through, clearing the way for another Federer-Nadal final because, as I've said before, Federer and Nadal are the top-two favourites for every slam they enter. They're just too good not to be.

vamosinator
01-24-2010, 02:00 AM
Not sure why people keep bringing up that H2H. 5 of those wins came before Murray had even won his first Masters Title. They are 2-2 since then. Using that H2H is like using Hewitt's wins over Federer to demonstrate how evenly matched they are.

That said, Murray needs to get past Isner before he even gets a shot at Rafa.

And one of those wins was 6-1 6-2 on hardcourt in 09....nothing to indicate a Murray win.

vamosinator
01-24-2010, 02:01 AM
He's going to lose in the quarterfinals to MURRAY. That is, if he makes it past Karlovic. I like Nadal too - but I'm just being realistic.

Not realistic if you think Karlovic can win, unlikely to win a set...

Arhaych
01-24-2010, 02:45 AM
And one of those wins was 6-1 6-2 on hardcourt in 09....nothing to indicate a Murray win.

That match was just bizarre though, wasn't there 50 MPH gusts?

On a hardcourt, both should be evenly matched.

saniapower
01-24-2010, 11:37 AM
best reason he is not the best

Foxy
01-24-2010, 12:11 PM
Favourites are: Fed, Kolya and Delpo. By that order.

:haha:

I was absolutely right when I predicted DelPo won't even reach SF in AO. That prediction came even before Kooyong. You can check AO 2010 discussions thread.

Ariel
01-24-2010, 06:06 PM
These prediction threads. :D And this thread in particular :rolleyes: Sod out. Delpo out. Ivo ousted by Clay King. True, Nadal's got some big tests coming up but given that he's playing without injury distractions and his personal problems seemingly in check, I think he'll end up outlasting his opponents, wearing them down, or simply adjusting his game when he's in trouble. The guy has an acute tennis brain and I have confidence in that brain and in his drive to win. As this is a prediction thread, if he loses, he'll go down fighting. And that is admirable. :cool:

born_on_clay
01-24-2010, 08:17 PM
best reason he is not the best

I believe the answer to the question who's the best will be provided in a week ;)

tennisphilia
01-25-2010, 04:51 AM
I believe the answer to the question who's the best will be provided in a week ;)

and it's not going to be nadal. nadal has lost ALL HIS MATCHES AGAINST TOP FIVE PLAYERS SINCE APRIL 2009. he's not playing well enough to break that trend. murray will win in three or four sets, max.

madmax
01-25-2010, 05:14 AM
and it's not going to be nadal. nadal has lost ALL HIS MATCHES AGAINST TOP FIVE PLAYERS SINCE APRIL 2009. he's not playing well enough to break that trend. murray will win in three or four sets, max.

yup, Nadull's current level doesn't cut it against TOP 5 players in the world, Murray will take him down in 3 or 4 sets

jcempire
01-25-2010, 05:54 AM
that's easy answer....because Murray is going to win the title

enigma
01-25-2010, 06:06 AM
I believe the answer to the question who's the best will be provided in a week ;)

:umbrella:

tennisphilia
01-27-2010, 06:20 AM
pathetic post



Who is PATHETIC now?

tennisphilia
01-27-2010, 06:21 AM
NADAL continues his inability to beat top5 players since Apr 2009.
He may drop out of the top 5 and by the time the French Open comes around, he may be forced to play Federer in the quarters because he'll be dropping out of the top 4.

tennisphilia
01-27-2010, 08:17 PM
Does anyone know what Nadal's projected ranking will be after the Australian Open? My guess is that he'll be ranked number four for the first time since - gosh, I can't remember.

samanosuke
01-27-2010, 08:34 PM
If Murray wins the tittle he will be number 2 , Đokovic number 3 , Rafito number 4

If Murray loses tomorrow Đokvic number 2, Nadal 3 , Murray 4

If Murray reaches the final Đokovic is number 2 , Murray number 3 , Nadal 4