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Andrei Plotniy banned ?!

JMG
01-13-2010, 09:42 AM
I see he is banned for 2 years, but I can't find any info about the reason for the ban.

Does anyone know what happened? He is a relatively well-known player, played in Khanty 6 weeks ago.

Nadie
01-14-2010, 07:04 PM
:eek:

no idea what happened to him :shrug:

PiggyGotRoasted
01-14-2010, 07:24 PM
2 years normally = drugs ban right?

DartMarcus
01-14-2010, 07:30 PM
How did you know about it?

Cloudygirl
01-14-2010, 07:34 PM
he's on the banned list on the anti doping section of the itf website but there is no information on why. There is information about all of the other players. Very strange.

Zirconek
01-14-2010, 07:35 PM
Yes, at ITF anti-doping site they show he's banned for 2 years, but no info about decision, etc, I guess he failed an anti-doping at an interclubs or another non-official tournament, like happened to another player (Zitko) some years ago and the case didn't get publicity.

networthy
01-14-2010, 07:40 PM
I see he is banned for 2 years, but I can't find any info about the reason for the ban.

Does anyone know what happened? He is a relatively well-known player, played in Khanty 6 weeks ago.

Define "relatively well-known."

straitup
01-14-2010, 07:44 PM
Define "relatively well-known."

Clearly the fact that 5 people have responded to this since the thread was created yesterday might help answer that :lol:

JMG
01-14-2010, 07:48 PM
Clearly the fact that 5 people have responded to this since the thread was created yesterday might help answer that :lol:

5 people within half an hour.

straitup
01-14-2010, 07:52 PM
Yes but it took about 10 hours before the first person responded

Nadie
01-14-2010, 07:53 PM
Yes but it took about 10 hours before the first person responded

Well, I don't go that often to GM :wavey:

Ad Wim
01-14-2010, 07:59 PM
Who?

Snowwy
01-14-2010, 09:03 PM
Too bad, hope its a mistake?

Zirconek
04-14-2010, 11:11 AM
He got 15 months because of carphedon, a stimulant, which was in a prescribed medication. It seems a bit harsh considering previous similar cases (Ivo Minar got 8 months because of another stimulant in a nutritional supllement he wasn't aware of containing a prohibited substance).

http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/pressrelease.asp?articleid=20990

ITF Press Release
Decision in the case of Andrei Plotniy
London, England, 18 Mar 2010 - The International Tennis Federation announced today that Andrei Plotniy has been found to have committed a Doping Offence under Article C.1 of the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme (presence of a Prohibited Substance in player’s sample).

Mr Plotniy, a 21-year-old tennis player from Russia, provided a sample on 1 November 2009 at the 2009 Challenger in Astana, Kazakhstan. That sample was sent to the WADA-accredited laboratory in Montreal, Canada for analysis, and was found to contain carphedon, a stimulant. Carphedon is a Prohibited Substance under the 2009 WADA List of Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods, and is therefore also prohibited under the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme. Mr Plotniy was therefore charged with an anti-doping rule violation under Article C.1 of the Programme and provisionally suspended from competition as from 19 December 2009.

Mr Plotniy asserted that the carphedon had got into his system through his ingestion of Phenotropil, a prescribed medication. He presented evidence that he been prescribed Phenotropil to treat a medical condition, and had consulted the drug information sheet for the product, which did not disclose that it contained a Prohibited Substance. He therefore denied taking any Prohibited Substance knowingly, and denied any intent to cheat.

The ITF accepted Mr Plotniy’s account of the circumstances surrounding his ingestion of Phenotropil, and accepted that he did not intend to enhance his performance. Under the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme, however, it is a player’s strict personal duty to ensure that no Prohibited Substance enters his or her body, whether as an ingredient in a prescription medication or otherwise, unless he/she holds an applicable therapeutic use exemption for such substance. Simply checking the ingredient sheet is not enough. There were many other steps that Mr Plotniy could and should have taken to avoid committing an anti-doping rule violation.

The ITF therefore confirmed Mr Plotniy’s commission of a Doping Offence under Article C.1 of the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme, and determined that Mr Plotniy should be suspended from participation for a period of fifteen months, commencing as from 1 November 2009 and ending on 1 February 2011. The ITF also determined that Mr Plotniy’s results from the 2009 Challenger events in Astana and Khanty-Mansyisk should be disqualified, with resulting forfeiture of the ranking points and prize money that he won at those events.

The Tennis Anti-Doping Programme is a comprehensive and internationally recognised drug-testing programme that applies to all players competing at tournaments sanctioned by the ITF, ATP World Tour, and Sony Ericsson WTA Tour. Players are tested for substances prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency and upon a finding that a Doping Offence has been committed, sanctions are imposed in accordance with the requirements of the World Anti-Doping Code. More background information on the Programme, sanctions, tennis statistics and related information can be found at www.itftennis.com/antidoping.

andy neyer
04-14-2010, 11:41 AM
Well that was a bit harsh... The ITF are wankers anyway

Nathaliia
04-14-2010, 05:24 PM
They should chase the real dopers.

myrt
04-14-2010, 09:12 PM
Too bad for a player who reads the insert and doesn't see a banned substance listed....what's a person to do? Wish they would state what other way your are supposed to know what's in a medication. Seems like you need a degree in pharmacology to play tennis. Guess the answer is to just take no meds period. Coria took a steroid contaminated vitamin and got a couple years suspension if I remember right.

HKz
04-14-2010, 09:34 PM
Too bad for a player who reads the insert and doesn't see a banned substance listed....what's a person to do? Wish they would state what other way your are supposed to know what's in a medication. Seems like you need a degree in pharmacology to play tennis. Guess the answer is to just take no meds period. Coria took a steroid contaminated vitamin and got a couple years suspension if I remember right.

If I remember right, his ban was greatly reduced after he pleaded his case.

michellej
04-14-2010, 11:18 PM
That's a foolish way for him to begin his tennis career.... or end his tennis career.


What WAS his thinking?

smitty8
04-15-2010, 01:32 AM
Hmmm, maybe all players should be required to go to pharmacy school. Seriously, who else knows all that shit about all medications?

Aquarianbabe
04-15-2010, 03:20 AM
I think if you are taking any medication you might have to get it cleared first from the appropriate people.

Deboogle!.
04-15-2010, 03:25 AM
Hmmm, maybe all players should be required to go to pharmacy school. Seriously, who else knows all that shit about all medications?You don't have to be a pharmacist to care about the ingredients that are in things you put inside your body, especially if knowing or not knowing the ingredients could put your whole career at risk. I read every label - food, medicine, whatever - and if I don't like the ingredients or warnings on something, I don't consume it. I mean, if you're a tennis player and you get a prescription, you look at every ingredient on the paperwork to match it up to the doping list to make sure it doesn't contain anything you can't have. If you're still not sure, call someone and ask. Or you don't take it. A lot of players have said that they're afraid to take anything more than aspirin or ibuprofen, and you can understand why.

Too bad for this kid, because it sounds like he had no intent to cheat or anything, but the rules are the rules.

andy neyer
04-15-2010, 03:43 AM
You don't have to be a pharmacist to care about the ingredients that are in things you put inside your body, especially if knowing or not knowing the ingredients could put your whole career at risk. I read every label - food, medicine, whatever - and if I don't like the ingredients or warnings on something, I don't consume it. I mean, if you're a tennis player and you get a prescription, you look at every ingredient on the paperwork to match it up to the doping list to make sure it doesn't contain anything you can't have. If you're still not sure, call someone and ask. Or you don't take it. A lot of players have said that they're afraid to take anything more than aspirin or ibuprofen, and you can understand why.

Too bad for this kid, because it sounds like he had no intent to cheat or anything, but the rules are the rules.

Yeah I know but 15 months for taking something that he never intended to consume seems like way too much. After the precedent the ITF set with Gasquet I'm quite surprised. Those guys don't seem to have any rules or objective parameters whatsoever to decide punsihments and apply convictions.

Deboogle!.
04-15-2010, 03:58 AM
I agree, not saying I think the system works right. Maybe he will appeal it and get his suspension reduced like a lot of guys have successfully done.