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The "I was wrong about..." player amnesty thread

tennis2tennis
01-12-2010, 02:14 PM
In the past few months I found myself really starting to warm up to Andy Murray and it got me thinking most of us at MTF are proudly vocal at saying who we hate, but

…I wanted to know is there any player who you now think "maybe I was too quick to judge", not necessarily players who changed but players who you've misjudged.

Duncan
01-12-2010, 02:30 PM
Yeah. Rafa!

Once upon a time i used to dislike him but now i think he is a great tennis player and amazing to watch when he is in full flow. Hopefully he can keep injury free this year!

Goldenoldie
01-12-2010, 02:34 PM
Fantastic idea and a good rep for you for your admission.

However this could be a very short thread. A poster on MTF admitting they were wrong? Now where's that flying pig icon?

Seriously I've never been a hater of any current player, just like some more than others, but if forced to choose one I'd have to say Gulbis has gone up in my estimation after his efforts against Federer in Doha.

born_on_clay
01-12-2010, 02:49 PM
I used to dislike Djokovic when he appeared on the tour
Now he's one of my favourite players
I just didn't like his stupid behavior on court, not mentioning his family

Spritz
01-12-2010, 02:52 PM
Del Potro. I used to think he was a proper twat, but then I realised that I act like a proper twat all the time, and we're pretty much the same age, so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. Being in your twenteens is hard after all. I'm sure his tantrum throwing was simply down to surplus hormones.

out_here_grindin
01-12-2010, 02:56 PM
I used to dislike Djokovic when he appeared on the tour
Now he's one of my favourite players
I just didn't like his stupid behavior on court, not mentioning his family


Same here. I really didn't like Djokovic when he first came on the scene. But now I will pull for him over Federer or Nadal.

Puschkin
01-12-2010, 03:00 PM
I used to dislike Djokovic when he appeared on the tour
Now he's one of my favourite players
I just didn't like his stupid behavior on court, not mentioning his family
Same here. :yeah: He might not be among my famous group of four favourite players yet, but I am more and more considering him as a substitute for Marat, though this might be too strong a demand on poor Nole. ;)

I also disliked Baghdatis when he had his breakthtrough. Too much of a fake sunny boy, I thought. Later on I saw him live and he was also smiling and joking when there was no camera around. And I appreciate his efforts for a comeback last year, too.

Mechlan
01-12-2010, 03:10 PM
Good thread.

Andy Roddick. The initial hype he got really turned me off, not to mention his on-court attitude was cocky and brash. He's still rude sometimes, but his professionalism and work ethic have really won me over. And he seems to have great perspective in spite of an evident desire to win, both underrated qualities.

Everko
01-12-2010, 03:12 PM
I used to hate Federer, now I hate him with a vengence.

UsD.AnDreS
01-12-2010, 03:24 PM
Delpo. Remember I saw the news that he had some problems with the money distribution in their Davis Cup team in 2008(the article looke like "The biggest part is destined to Nalby. Delpo is veeery unpleased with that.") I though that was probably a bit too much from the youngster..Even rooted against him in his match with Rafa in Miami'09(while I used to root for underdogs in Fed and Rafa matches). But then I was just shocked by his RG performance,not only in terms of quality of his play.Remember his match against Tsonga there, Delpo was sooo calm..he probably even didn't give a chance to Tsonga and the paris crowd. Lost one set in the TB(probably it could be a nice boost for Tsonga) but again it didn't change anything - Delpo had just crushed him in following 2 sets 6-1 6-4 and that really impressed me.Than he played against Fed+crowd and you know how it finished but again - that guy held on pretty nice in that match.

Orka_n
01-12-2010, 04:08 PM
For me it's Davydenko. I used to dislike him but I can't ignore the brilliant display of tennis he's put on since late 2009. Such entertaining shotmaking commands respect. I wouldn't mind him reaching the final in Australia now.

Certinfy
01-12-2010, 04:12 PM
Davydenko, didn't appreciate the guy at all, but now I've seen the personality and game he has, I don't really mind him. :)

moonlightdance
01-12-2010, 04:13 PM
Good thread.

Andy Roddick. The initial hype he got really turned me off, not to mention his on-court attitude was cocky and brash. He's still rude sometimes, but his professionalism and work ethic have really won me over. And he seems to have great perspective in spite of an evident desire to win, both underrated qualities.

+1

Filo V.
01-12-2010, 04:15 PM
Soderling. I never thought he could actually consistently challenge top players on a regular basis even with his big game, let alone beat them some of the time. I always expected him to remain a headcase who would be a big disappointment and end up will terrible unexpected losses on his record every season. He has gotten more consistent and improved his mental aspect of the game. I think he is a top 10 player for the next few years definitely now.

Also on the flip side of that, I was wrong about Chardy. I thought he would be around the 15 rank by now. I overestimated him a bit and his game seems pretty limited to me now. He still has time to pull it together, though.

Sri
01-12-2010, 04:15 PM
I want to like Rafa but Uncle Toni convinces me to change me mind. :(

Andi-M
01-12-2010, 04:22 PM
Roddick - Used to think he was an a**, but now I find him great he does the best interviews, and he gets on really well with everyone he is a top guy and a great competiter too. I really hope gets another slam even if its unlikely.

Potro- Dont get me wrong I don't love the guy, but from thinking he was a 1 dimensional mug who had beef with my favorite player, I have delevoled a respect for him he has matured alot in the last year he is harmless, just a gentle giant really. Also the fact he has manned up and won a slam at his age in this era is very impressive.

Sophocles
01-12-2010, 04:25 PM
Gasquet. Thought the fucker was good.

Clydey
01-12-2010, 04:32 PM
Gasquet. Thought the fucker was good.

Me too. Waste of talent.

Shame.

Speed of Light
01-12-2010, 04:36 PM
Randy Muggay, i used to be so much terrified by his hideous vampire looks with fangs and all that i never used to notice his game before. Now that i have gotten over it,not only do i feel like ******* that ugly grimace off his face,but also feel like throwing up while watching him play tennis too...

Sharp
01-12-2010, 04:52 PM
Excellent thread.

disliked, but changed oppinion: Rafa, Davidenko, Tipsarevic

liked, but not any more: Chokovic, Murray, Blake, Gasquet, Gulbis

scarecrows
01-12-2010, 05:11 PM
Haas

I didnt like his tantrums but in the end he was just shouting to himself and also he is one of the very few players playing an interesting game nowadays

habibko
01-12-2010, 05:37 PM
Djokovic, I never thought the guy would man up and stop retiring like a wuss whenever the going gets tough, but he proved me wrong so kudos to him.

MsTree
01-12-2010, 05:53 PM
Good thread! :D

I've never hated anyone but I used to dislike Nole, but his appearances on the Bulge Thread, together with a good crack fanbase and lovely movement for his shots has turned me into a fan too :D

I used to appreciate Fed a long time ago but his bad sportsmanship and arrogant attitude on court have been annoying me for years. Love it when he gets beat. :devil:

OnyxRose
01-12-2010, 06:06 PM
Delpo. I thought he was just one-dimensional but he keeps growing and growing. Plus, I've never heard anything bad about him.

Matt_2745
01-12-2010, 08:58 PM
Tim Henman, was never a fan as a kid but when I properly got into tennis around 2003/4 I began to appreciate him properly and by his retirement was a big fan.

Goldenoldie
01-12-2010, 09:05 PM
I was wrong about the number of responses this thread would get.
Well done OP!

Cloudygirl
01-12-2010, 09:11 PM
I used to dislike Stan strongly because I thought he was a mug (I think he got tainted because of my dislike of Federer). I still think he's a bit muggy but he can also play very well and I love his backhand so I'm a fan.

Didn't like Gilles at first now I love him.

I liked Agassi now I feel a bit disappointed in him.

Wasn't keen on Nole at first, hate the impressions but think he has grown up a lot and I think he's ok now although I'm not a fan.

A year or so ago I thought Del Potro was totally overrated, now I don't like his game but I can see how good he is and how much better he is going to be.

Harmless
01-12-2010, 09:29 PM
- I used to think Murray would grow up to be one of the most interesting players on the tour. :(

+ Contrary to that, I used to not think much of the entire French camp, save Santoro, but now I've kinda warmed up to them all, Monfils especially.

r2473
01-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Stepanek. There was a time when I could not appreciate his stunning good looks.

http://img.skysports.com/09/02/218x298/Radek-Stepanek_1864920.jpg

Corey Feldman
01-12-2010, 10:14 PM
Ancic, hated when he beat Henman at Wimbledon

but admired his tennis style and he's a gentleman

Stepanek, i admire him now for his antics, he's not afraid to do them even if it backfires on him.

if there was an opposite for this thread title i'd pick Murray right now.

JediFed
01-12-2010, 10:44 PM
I was wrong about Djokovic. I believed he would go slamless. Now I am convinced that he's a one slam wonder.

philosophicalarf
01-12-2010, 11:05 PM
I was wrong about Almagro. I was convinced he was a hopeless loser, who would be remembered for nothing more then epic feats of choking.

Turns out, that was being kind to him.

brent-o
01-13-2010, 04:20 AM
I was totally wrong about Del Potro's success. When I first saw him (back in his long-haired days), I didn't think his ground strokes were anything that spectacular. But man has he improved both in the power and fitness departments.

Btw, awesome thread. It's very therapeutic to admit our mistakes lol

Arkulari
01-13-2010, 04:24 AM
Nole, I thought he was a quitter but got his act together and now is one of the fittest men on tour :yeah:

Boredo: I don't like his playing style, but he plays better for Spain than for himself and that's a plus on my book, he always delivers in DC and other competitions

bleu_cheese
01-13-2010, 04:49 AM
Hi, My name is Scott, and I've been an alcoholic for...

One of the first matches I watched was the '06 Wimbledon final. Being young, I rooted for Rafa, and thought Fed was just an old guy who cared too much about his hair. The very next year, I'm much more into tennis and know the backgrounds of everyone, and also care about my own hair. In the '07 final, I'm cheering for Federer. Funny how things flip like that.

I've also gotten past my problems with Davydenko, Djokovic, and even Murray to an extent. When you look past all the posturing and personalities off court, it's easier to appreciate the tennis.

-Valhalla-
01-13-2010, 04:55 AM
Interesting question and my choice here would have to be The Djoker.

When Nole first burst onto the scene, I found him to be a cocky little prick with a bad habit of throwing in the towel. Particularly interesting was his delusional fantasy that he had Nadal on the ropes and was “in control of the match” at the '06 RG quarters [down 4-6, 4-6] before retiring on his stool. Lol, but he was only 20 y.o. and I think we’ve all said and done much dumber shit than that at that age, and overall, I still respected his game and his willingness to step up to the plate and challenge Fed and Nadal.

Later, as he continued to climb up in the rankings and show real hard-court prowess, I think we all got to know him a little better and what emerged for me was a charismatic, crowd-pleaser who had a solid game and a real knack for impersonations. I’ve laughed my ass off more than a few times watching his youtube clips and I soon found myself cheering for the guy. He was a breath of fresh air and finally, we had someone with enough balls to win a major.

But then at last year’s AO, he did the unthinkable, again … his best Roberto Duran impersonation: “No Mas” :( . And not because he suffered serious injury, but because it was too hot. Unacceptable. He could have found a way to finish that match but instead he chose to quit. A real letdown and as Hemingway once said, Once they go to that place, they are all but certain to return. But then, that EPIC, COLOSSUS struggle with Nadal in Madrid and in a single match, he redeemed himself. Easily the match of the year [best of 3] and a real bloodbath that left its scars on both combatants. Nadal paid the heaviest price with his knees, but the Djoker didn’t recover until the fall and in the process, suffered some humiliating losses at the hands of Tommy “The Geritol” Haas. But he did recoup nicely in the fall and was at peak form in Beijing, Basel, and Paris. Well done Novak.

Bottom line: Nole’s a rollercoaster but an entertaining crowd pleaser at that, and if given a choice at Rod Laver Arena, I'd much rather watch him play than Soderling, Roddick, Murray, or Davydenko. However, another heat related retirement and he’ll lose my respect for good :fiery: :smash:

name_change
01-13-2010, 06:22 AM
Well, it goes a while back, but I used to dislike Ivanisevic. Then he fell of the radar and at Wimbledon (THE Wimbledon), I saw his 2nd/3rd round match and I found myself thinking "Wow, you can really the joy in his face playing at Wimbledon"..and I fell in love with right there. And when he won, I was beyond thrilled!

Most of the time though, it works the other way. I usually like a lot of players and end up disliking them. Federer and Sampras being two main ones.

Havok
01-13-2010, 07:03 AM
I've definitely felt myself pulling for Nadal recently. Not a huge favorite of mine, but I enjoy him more than before; never hated the guy but was indifferent towards him.

RafitoGoat
01-13-2010, 07:08 AM
I thought Federer would win 20-25 slams and now it appears he will probably not!

fangirl
01-13-2010, 07:15 AM
Murray.

Hopman Cup convinced me there is actually a little personality lurking under that slightly scary looking surface.

TheMightyFed
01-13-2010, 07:22 AM
For me it's Davydenko. I used to dislike him but I can't ignore the brilliant display of tennis he's put on since late 2009. Such entertaining shotmaking commands respect. I wouldn't mind him reaching the final in Australia now.

Same for me, the guy looks like nothing but man nowadays he has bollocks and knows his tennis. Davy for AO 10 !:worship:

Stelle
01-13-2010, 09:15 AM
I have always hated Querrey for some reason and when i saw him in Brisbane, he was really nice and not up himself at all. I really judged him by - who he beat.

I really like Bellucci now too, i think he is really nice :)

I have always hated Murray(and always will) - i think it is because of the Brits and there biased reports and articles about him - same with robson i think she thinks she is older than she actually is

I have always disliked Blake too, but i read his autobiography and ended up feeling sorry for him :(

Sophocles
01-13-2010, 09:39 AM
Hate to admit it, but have grown a grudging respect for Nadal for the way he's improved his game since 2005. But I still *always* root against him.

Never thought Verdasco would be consistent enough to make the Top 10. Ditto Soderling. Never thought Davydenko would be tough enough to beat top players repeatedly. Thought Del Potro's game was utterly innocuous, no danger to anybody with any talent, a taller version of Robredo.

StevoTG
01-13-2010, 11:39 AM
Mark Philippoussis - He was the first player that I ever rooted for in a tennis match, in the first tennis match that I ever watched: The 2003 Wimbledon final. When I first got into tennis, I thought he was a model pro, not a pro model. That said I still have a soft spot for the guy, partly for sentimental reasons and partly for I don't know the hell why.

Tim Henman - As a kid growing up in Ireland it was natural to be dismissive of tennis and Tim was sort of the embodyment of everything that was annoying about the sport. Even more than that, the Brittish media even seemed to be fond of taking the p!ss out of him and he was the butt of jokes every summer. As soon as I started to learn about tennis and Tim, it was impossible not to respect the guy, and it wasn't long before I liked him.

Dmitry Tursunov - I used to think he was funny and cool. I still like to see him on form and progressing in tournaments, because he's the type of player who can produce classic matches. But I wish he'd give the attention seeking and constant whining a miss. It'd be good if he could maybe show a bit of mental restraint and self control.

gaitare
01-13-2010, 11:56 AM
Nadal, I hated him with passion, there were so many things that bugged me about him (and often still do), but I learned to respect his relentless ambition and willingness to improve his game (and I approve good choice of a girlfriend). I still don't buy this humbleness and angel_on_earth talk that some of his fans love to initiate. Now I just don't like him and my cheeks don't get so rosy when I root against him.

tennishero
01-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Del Potro. I used to think he was a proper twat, but then I realised that I act like a proper twat all the time, and we're pretty much the same age, so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. Being in your twenteens is hard after all. I'm sure his tantrum throwing was simply down to surplus hormones.

what dimension are u from?

i wasnt much of a delpo fan either before, but his mental strength and rise through the ranks changed my mind, hes a great player.
also Nadal, his 2008 run was incredible.

tennishero
01-13-2010, 01:35 PM
Me too. Waste of talent.

Shame.

he obviously never had that much talent.

Vida
01-13-2010, 03:56 PM
verdasco. didnt like him before, now I do.

philosophicalarf
01-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Same for me, the guy looks like nothing but man nowadays he has bollocks and knows his tennis. Davy for AO 09 !:worship:

Yeah, he has huge cojones, he's basically unbeatable in tiebreaks lately. Aside from one lost to Kunitsyn, who he always has strange matches with (friend + doubles partner), he's now won 17 tiebreaks in a row. Includes matches versus Nadal, Djokovic, Soderling and so on.

LoveFifteen
01-13-2010, 04:11 PM
I didn't particularly like Del Potro when I saw him in Washington, DC in 2008, but I am a lot more impressed with him now.

Bazooka
01-13-2010, 05:49 PM
Murray, I never saw anything good about him, and he really looked like having a bad attitude, like if he really didn't care. Mmmm... on second thought I may have been wrong only for 2008 on that one.

Delpo I always kind of liked his style, but I never thought he could really win anything big, mostly his serve was pathetic.

Davydenko is difficult to support. Since 2006 or so, I really thought he had the talent and quality to do something big. But I had been losing my faith more and more. When I was sure he was finished without even having started, bam!

guille&tati4life
01-13-2010, 06:44 PM
In terms of talent I thought that Berdych was going to be massive. It looks like I was wrong there.

Corey Feldman
01-13-2010, 06:47 PM
Nadal, I hated him with passion (and I approve good choice of a girlfriend). I still don't buy this humbleness and angel_on_earth talk that some of his fans love to initiate. Now I just don't like him and my cheeks don't get so rosy when I root against him.:haha:

SetSampras
01-13-2010, 06:50 PM
I was wrong about Djoker and Murray.. I thought these two were already going to become major players by 2008 or so. I figured Murray now would be right there in the NUmber 2-3 rank. Not number 5 with no grandslams to his name and only one grandslam finals appearance. I figured Djoker would already have a handful of slams to his name since I saw the force he was late 07 early 08 after winning the AO. Little did I know that both would be slam handicapped having only one slam between them at this point in time. Especially when u have a guy like Davydenko dominating the last big two tournaments. I mean DAVYDENKO!!! The slamless wonder


I think that kind of goes to show that the comepetition (at least top 5-10) isnt what is made out to be by people today. Neither of these guys bring the goods when it matters most. Murray and Djoker should already have been big time players and slam established already and around the peaks of their careers. Not REGRESSING!!!

I was wrong about Nadal also. I never would have though he would have won a HC slam. He proved me wrong on that one

:Zaz:
01-13-2010, 09:38 PM
I used to loathe Berdych and Monfils, but after seeing Tomas live - i quite like him now, and I changed my opinion of Monfils after seeing him on a DC video.

They are by no means faves now, but I don't despise them anymore.

Ouragan
01-15-2010, 03:10 AM
Soderling. Thought he was a mean and boring lanky dude with spiky hair who could only manage to win a couple of MM indoor tourneys at the end of the season.

Then there was Roland Garros 2009 and the man showed explosive talent, consistency and a winning shyness and smile.

- On the flip side, I still think Karlovic is the biggest douche, not just in tennis, but on the planet.

tkr
01-15-2010, 09:30 AM
I would like to apologize to Davydenko. He has stepped up and showed he's had enough of being bullied around by the best ones. This would be even more true if he shows it at AO.

Other than that, I hate most of the players. I hate them and won't appologize to anyone else....

marcRD
02-12-2010, 01:41 PM
I was wrong about Roddick, I used to think he was a spoiled brat with a big serve. Now I see him as a fighter with a big hearth.

Timariot
02-12-2010, 06:38 PM
I was wrong about Nicolas Lapentti. I thought that he would have better career than Hewitt or especially Safin, but I have to finally admit I was wrong...

Schu
02-12-2010, 07:44 PM
I was wrong about Roddick, I used to think he was a spoiled brat with a big serve. Now I see him as a fighter with a big hearth.

Same here. Roddick still goes over the edge sometimes but the last time he went off on the ref or was it the linesperson he later admitted in the press conference that he may not have seen things correctly on the court. And speaking of press conferences, he's the best at letting reporters know they have just asked the most absurd question. I also admire him for working on his game at this stage in his career he actually now has something more than just a big serve.


I used to hate Djoker but now I actually pull for him often - i think he grew up a bit, still has some to go but getting there. I don't see his family in the stands as much either - maybe that's why I like him more.

And dare I say, Murray. He's not going to be among my favorites but I can at least watch his matches now without wanting to throw darts at the TV. Maybe if i wore ear plugs...

luie
02-13-2010, 01:05 AM
For me it was Del-po,Murray,Sokerking,Tsonga,cilic,davy,denko,blake ,nalbandian etc I never liked these players untill they started to destroy the moonballer.
Now I like them.

Persimmon
02-13-2010, 01:06 AM
Cilic.

momo_momo
02-13-2010, 01:47 AM
I HATED andy murray back in 08-09. Hated hated hated the guy.
Now I just don't care...I will though, root for him whenever Fed's in the way.

Fed should stop winning all those slams.

yuri27
02-13-2010, 02:11 PM
Gasquet.
After i watched him play against Federer and Nadal in MC 05,i was not asking myself IF he would win Grand Slams but rather WHEN.
Sadly,the following of his career has proven me wrong.:sad:

zeleni
02-13-2010, 02:19 PM
Didn't like Rafa - thought he was jerk when I saw him first time because of his Rambo outfit. But quickly I changed my mind - he is my 3rd or 4th favourite.

Nole fan
02-13-2010, 02:42 PM
I don't hate any player, never have (i think it's quite stupid to hate someone you don't know, though I think I don't even hate anyone I know! hatred is blind ignorance but I'm digressing).
I didn't like much Murray at first, though I admired his game. Slowly but surely he started worming his way into my heart and after his AO2010 loss to Federer and posterior speech, I was actually fascinated with the whole dimension of the man. These days I find myself cheering for Nole (love at first sight) and Murray (he's a late blossomer, you know). I didn't like Roddick much and I still don't like him, though sometimes I think he's funny and appreciate the sarcasm (but I really don't like big servers, that's why I never liked Sampras).

Black Adam
02-13-2010, 04:02 PM
I used to hate Federer, now I hate him with a vengence.
Hear, hear.