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How do you first take in an important draw?

n8
01-11-2010, 08:21 AM
For some of us, the announcement of an important tournament's draw is almost as exciting as some of the tournament itself. So how do you first take in the draw?

Langers
01-11-2010, 08:39 AM
Interesting thread. I chose option A, line by line. Sometimes I get a little impatient and look for the big seeds but more often than not it's from top to bottom.

Can't wait for the AO draw to be released! Always exciting!

Action Jackson
01-11-2010, 08:39 AM
Use Ctrl + F to find the players I am interested in.

sammy01
01-11-2010, 09:02 AM
i look for my faves, then if my faves get a good draw i bash one out to pics of them. if they get bad draws, i cut myself. to be honest im rather indifferent, as you can tell.

n8
01-11-2010, 09:07 AM
Interesting thread. I chose option A, line by line. Sometimes I get a little impatient and look for the big seeds but more often than not it's from top to bottom.

Can't wait for the AO draw to be released! Always exciting!

I get so excited about draws I become irrational. I think if I look at the draw in a certain way then it will be more to my liking :smash:. I think I'll TRY to go through line by line this time.

Goldenoldie
01-11-2010, 09:30 AM
When the draw comes out I find Murray's quarter and look at his potential path to the QF, then I glance at the first couple of rounds for Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, and now I suppose Del Potro.

Over the next few days I read all the forum comments, and probably the day before play starts I go through line by line to see what I've missed.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
01-11-2010, 03:05 PM
Federer

i look at who he will face in the later stages, look at possible banana skins- then i look to see if he has joker or murray in the semis

then i look at nadals

i hope he will have davy, soderling, blake, nalbandian in his draw (>.>)
sue me, i want to see Roger win everything :D

sheva07
01-11-2010, 03:09 PM
Very interesting. Usually I will search for the top seeds and after that line by line, but for this AO I'll immediately looking for the draw with the Dutchies.

miura
01-11-2010, 03:09 PM
Normally I just check out my favs and then some interesting early round setups. If I play eg. the ATP World Tour Draw Challenge I like to check up on H2H on every match and do some more additional research on recent form etc.

Noleta
01-11-2010, 03:29 PM
Option B:D

Everko
01-11-2010, 03:46 PM
line by line I don't discriminate

Harmless
01-11-2010, 03:49 PM
Start at the top, line by line, then when I hit an interesting matchup, I go check the stats for it. After that I go from the bottom until I hit another interesting matchup and go check stats. Then I get impatient going line by line and check my favourites that I haven't found yet.
After that I go randomly to check out the rest, stopping to check stats for interesting ones.
Short attention span, what can I say. :p
But I don't like to read comments before I've seen the entire draw myself.


i look for my faves, then if my faves get a good draw i bash one out to pics of them. if they get bad draws, i cut myself. to be honest im rather indifferent, as you can tell.

:worship:
:spit:

Certinfy
01-11-2010, 04:05 PM
1) Look at Berdych's, realise it's a piece of shit, then go under my bed and cry.
2) Come back an hour later and look at my other faves
3) Look line by line

Andi-M
01-11-2010, 05:22 PM
I start at the top then see Feds got an easy draw complain for like a minute then I'll scan down till I see Murrays draw and anyalise in detail that for a while, I'll then scan down to see Nadal's draw, and argue that it is tougher then Feds but easier than Murrays, then I'll go through Nole's, Roddick's and Potro draw if I have time. :p

born_on_clay
01-11-2010, 06:41 PM
seeds first, then line by line :)

duong
01-11-2010, 09:17 PM
For some of us, the announcement of an important tournament's draw is almost as exciting as some of the tournament itself. So how do you first take in the draw?

first I prepare it : I look at the seeds, who's seeded 1-2 3-4 5-8 9-12 13-16 17-24 25-32, who are the best unseeded players, and rank who's the best and worst among these seeds, 17-24 for instance.

Then it allows me to evaluate what are the most important issues for Federer or Djokovic or others in the draw : the seed they could meet in SF or QF or first rounds ...

Then I look at the seeds starting with 1-2, then 3-4 ... the way the draw is done actually.

After the seeds I look at the whole draw and point especially the best unseeded players, where they are.

Then especially for a grand slam, I make a "summary draw", only with the players I guess could be in 3rd round, with the players who they would meet before between blankets.

That "summary draw" includes an avaluation of who might reach the R16, QF and SF.

usually this "summary draw" is very accurate ;) ... only the final rounds are the most difficult to predict.

I like doing things like that.

And it's especially like that that I had seen last year that Federer had got the worst possible draw I had evaluated before in Wimbledon ... except not drawing Murray in SF.

Some other people just thought Kohlschreiber ? oh shit for Federer on grass ! Söderling ? Oh Shit for Federer on grass ! Tsonga ? oh easy for Federer on grass !

... and so on and people wrote "oh a cake draw" for Federer.

When I said "it's an awful draw" people laughed at me :lol: ... but actually considering the rulkes of the draw, the seeds and so on, it was the worst possible draw he could have had ... and he was fortunate that he made a very very good Wimbledon before the final, far better than the other grand slams, if not he might have had a great disappointment.

Usually draws are quite balanced actually, since new rules.

But since I've done it for long, I've seen that some players are used to being very lucky (in the past Agassi was extremely lucky with grand slams draws, last year Simon was very very lucky), some are used to being unlucky (last year it was Verdasco).

If you don't evaluate the possibilities before the draw is made, you cannot know it.

tennis2tennis
01-11-2010, 09:21 PM
using my eyes...:wavey:

KarlyM
01-11-2010, 10:11 PM
I usually do this:
1. Look for my favorites
2. See what quarters the top 8 are in
3. Look at line-by-line 1st round match-ups.

EDIT: I forgot the most important one -->
4. Read all the MTF posts whining about how their favorite always gets bad draws, draws are fixed against their favorite, so-and-so always gets a cakewalk... http://bestsmileys.com/talking/1.gif :lol:

Luinir
01-11-2010, 10:25 PM
using my eyes...:wavey:

:lol:

RafitoGoat
01-11-2010, 11:09 PM
Look at if Rafito's name is there and see which seeds he will meet at QF and SF!

MrChopin
01-11-2010, 11:28 PM
I scan past the draw and first read MTF's reactions.

swisht4u
01-11-2010, 11:33 PM
I check out the top seeds by looking for who's in their quarter.
So basically checking out all the quarters.

stebs
01-11-2010, 11:51 PM
first I prepare it : I look at the seeds, who's seeded 1-2 3-4 5-8 9-12 13-16 17-24 25-32, who are the best unseeded players, and rank who's the best and worst among these seeds, 17-24 for instance.

Then it allows me to evaluate what are the most important issues for Federer or Djokovic or others in the draw : the seed they could meet in SF or QF or first rounds ...

Then I look at the seeds starting with 1-2, then 3-4 ... the way the draw is done actually.

After the seeds I look at the whole draw and point especially the best unseeded players, where they are.

Then especially for a grand slam, I make a "summary draw", only with the players I guess could be in 3rd round, with the players who they would meet before between blankets.

That "summary draw" includes an avaluation of who might reach the R16, QF and SF.

usually this "summary draw" is very accurate ;) ... only the final rounds are the most difficult to predict.

I like doing things like that.

And it's especially like that that I had seen last year that Federer had got the worst possible draw I had evaluated before in Wimbledon ... except not drawing Murray in SF.

Some other people just thought Kohlschreiber ? oh shit for Federer on grass ! Söderling ? Oh Shit for Federer on grass ! Tsonga ? oh easy for Federer on grass !

... and so on and people wrote "oh a cake draw" for Federer.

When I said "it's an awful draw" people laughed at me :lol: ... but actually considering the rulkes of the draw, the seeds and so on, it was the worst possible draw he could have had ... and he was fortunate that he made a very very good Wimbledon before the final, far better than the other grand slams, if not he might have had a great disappointment.

Usually draws are quite balanced actually, since new rules.

But since I've done it for long, I've seen that some players are used to being very lucky (in the past Agassi was extremely lucky with grand slams draws, last year Simon was very very lucky), some are used to being unlucky (last year it was Verdasco).

If you don't evaluate the possibilities before the draw is made, you cannot know it.

:yeah:

The fact that you then post your findings for everyone else to read is what makes you a valuable asset to the forums. For those who would rather look deeper than just shout opinions about how their disliked players have an easy draw every time it's nice to have a, mostly, objective view of the draw.

GrosjeantheGreat
01-12-2010, 01:50 AM
Go through line after line after line...but enough about my night out with Gasquet.

Option A.

LleytonMonfils
01-12-2010, 01:50 AM
I look at my favorites draws for their section. Then I find out if Federer or Nadal is in their half. Then I go through the draw match by match.

And duong if you think chatter about "fixed draws" can get ridiculous over here, you should see the bonanza that ensues after every GS draw on wtaworld. They truly believe tennis is lifetime fixed for Grand Slams.

Horatio Caine
01-12-2010, 08:49 PM
Good thread topic...interesting question. :lol:

Will look for one or two favourites first, before then checking the big names and scouring line by line for interesting match-ups.

Or Levy
01-12-2010, 09:13 PM
I check which one Roger got in the Semis, Djoko or Murray (well, for the first time it would be Del Potro), then I check the other top guys and see who Roger got in the Quarter. I do the same for Nadal. Then I go back to check out Roger's first round and try to eveluate his road to the title. I will then do the same with the rest of the top 4/5. Then I'll go check out the first rounds for the top men, look for Dudi Sela and see what his chances are. Then I'll review the entire draw again.