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Poll: What was the best Wimbledon final of the naughtys?

2003
01-10-2010, 04:52 AM
History, popular wisdom and Mcenroe say the 08 Wimbledon final was the best match of all time let alone the best Wimbledon final of the last 10 years, but what does MTF think?

2000-Pat Shampras defeats Batdick Laughter in four sets. Probably not a realistic contender, was much like Mariano Pureta in 2005, even though he took the first set you knew Batdick was gonna lose, he couldn't handle the pressure.

2001-Boran Ivansachoke defeats Baddick Laughter. Although this match went the distance, it was a disaster as the two players who should have been in the final, Federer and Shampiss played out the final earlier in the tournament.

2002-Earlyton Hugh Witt defeated Davide Burger Shambian easily in straights. One wonders if Mallise would have gone better against Hughwitt. This grand sham was hardly legit, Burger Shambian just did not show up. Pathetic.

2003-Roger Federer defeats Markus Phill A Shit Sis in straight but competive sets. Clutch Federer, a good match, but little spark.

2004-Roger Federer defeats Shandi Dick Rod in four sets. The match was close but it was never really in doubt, despite what some say. A good dramtic encounter.

2005-Roger Federer defeats Shandi Dick Rod in more convincing fashion, straight sets the stupid American.

2006-Roger Federer wins over Nafael Capsical bageling him in the first, tiebreaking the second, losing the third in a tiebreak then steamrolling in the fourth to win. The best so far.

2007-Roger Federer wins over Rafaella Nutella in an epic 5 setter. Capsical could claim he deserved the match, being the only one to win a set outside a tiebreak until the fifth. 2 break points in the 5th and he could do nothing. Also a possible conspiracy regarding Tommy Ass walkover. See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j6kTI21qQM

2008-Nafael Capsical defeats Federer in 5 sets to win Wimbledon. Bon Smackenroe claims the match is the best of all time. Certainly Federers spirit, the conclusion over 7 hours after beginning, etc all helped, but was the match quality wise, whilst being outstanding, really better than the Smackenroe-Beeyon Borg match of 1980? Certainly the best ive ever seen.

2009-Roger Federer defeats Shandi Penis Rod in 5 sets, 16-14 in the 5th. Never watched the match so couldn't comment, but I know Dick Face choked away 4set points to take a 2 sets to love lead. Not since Dr Dre Shaggasi making Wimbledon finals have we seen such bizare shit.

Discuss.

My vote is the Phil A Poo Sis or 2008 match.

Arkulari
01-10-2010, 05:09 AM
I actually preferred the 07 final to the 08 and in Fedal matches the best one is Rome 06 without a doubt ;)

the 2001 final was probably the biggest heartbreak I've ever had in my tennis following career, I wanted Patrick to win SO badly :sad:

LinkMage
01-10-2010, 05:11 AM
2005 Final

The only Wimbledon final where FedGod played all match long (well, the 2003 final was close).


The others were a combination of normal Fed, FedGod, and Fedmug (especially the last 3 where Federror was in full flight).

FairWeatherFan
01-10-2010, 05:23 AM
2001 and it's not even close.

Cyrus_Paice
01-10-2010, 05:39 AM
2008 really was the best match of all time. Just too good to be true. AO09 final was similar, but not at Wimbledon, and overall probably not quite as good.

In 2001 I didn't know about Ivanisevic's history and his age, so it's hard to rate that one.

MalwareDie
01-10-2010, 05:43 AM
The Nadull finals were the worst three by a considerable margin.

-Valhalla-
01-10-2010, 05:44 AM
This is a no-brainer: Naderer '08

Doggy
01-10-2010, 05:50 AM
Andy lost the Wimby '09 final by choking away the possibility of a 2 set lead = he never win another slam again

abraxas21
01-10-2010, 06:01 AM
in Fedal matches the best one is Rome 06 without a doubt ;)

This man (or woman, I dunno) speaks the truth. Unlike most other Fedal matches, in Rome both of them were at their peak form and played incredible tennis at that final. I remember it quite well. Federer choked the match away squandering 2 consecutive match points with 2 UE.

Arkulari
01-10-2010, 06:04 AM
This man (or woman, I dunno) speaks the truth. Unlike most other Fedal matches, in Rome both of them were at their peak form and played incredible tennis at that final. I remember it quite well. Federer choked the match away squandering 2 consecutive match points with 2 UE.

woman ;)

and thank you, I really believe that was the day they both played their best tennis against each other and yes, Roger choked it away :lol:

the Wimbledon 08 final was hugely overrated in terms of quality, Rafa should have won in straights and the whole drama was more about the rain delays than the actual play

Was it good? yes, but I think they both played much better in 2007 ;)

Sophocles
01-10-2010, 10:23 AM
It's between 2001 & 2007.

Bobby
01-10-2010, 10:43 AM
2001. No question. The emotion and suspense was huge. And yes, bot Rafter and Ivanisevic deserved to be in the final.

samanosuke
01-10-2010, 11:38 AM
2005 Final

The only Wimbledon final where FedGod played all match long (well, the 2003 final was close).


The others were a combination of normal Fed, FedGod, and Fedmug (especially the last 3 where Federror was in full flight).

Agreed .

Maybe UO 2004 and UO 2008 except little choking in the second set both times is really Jesus Fed in GS finals . Others were combination of luck, choking and lack of stamina from others but that is also part of the game .

Last two GS that he won he played average or bad tennis through hole tournament but that is why he is above others . Nobody can't wining so many matches with poor game except him .

born_on_clay
01-10-2010, 01:03 PM
Fedal 08

Matt_2745
01-10-2010, 04:29 PM
2008 with 2001 not far behind.

LinkMage
01-10-2010, 06:16 PM
People voting for the 2008 final are utter :retard:.

Fedmug played like complete shit in that one. He would have never lost a set on grass from being a break up (2nd set) if he had been playing somewhat decent. He should have won that set and the match in 4 sets.

rocketassist
01-10-2010, 06:36 PM
2001.

MariaV
01-10-2010, 06:38 PM
I still gave the edge to the 2001 final because of all the emotions but the 2008 final is right there too.

tyruk14
01-10-2010, 07:35 PM
2008 was a great final, no matter what the naysayers think, but 2001 edges it for me... Seeing Goran finally win Wimbledon was a great and deserved moment for him and tennis fans. Tennis won that day.

2003
02-14-2013, 02:47 AM
People voting for the 2008 final are utter :retard:.

Fedmug played like complete shit in that one. He would have never lost a set on grass from being a break up (2nd set) if he had been playing somewhat decent. He should have won that set and the match in 4 sets.

Yeah, Nadal basically bagled him on paper to win that second set :help:

Then again, he was somewhat lucky to win 07 final, so maybe it evens it out.

emotion
02-14-2013, 03:14 AM
Can't really judge pre-06 myself

Quality, it's 07-08-09
Drama, it's 09-08-07

Topspindoctor
02-14-2013, 03:32 AM
Any wimbledon Noserer didn't win.

BauerAlmeida
02-14-2013, 03:35 AM
2001 and 2009.

2008 is one of the most over-rated matches ever.

End da Game
02-14-2013, 03:42 AM
the one where federer lost obviously

End da Game
02-14-2013, 03:47 AM
2001 and 2009.

2008 is one of the most over-rated matches ever.

that match played right into the pundit's narrative of 'the death of the king' moment, so I'm not surprised at how much its hyped up

if you ask me, quality-wise AO2009 or USO2009 were better (basically any other 5 setter with federer on the losing side is better than wimbly 2008)

Alex999
02-14-2013, 04:34 AM
2001 for me. What Ivanisevic managed to do was out of this world (ranked 125, got a WC to enter the MD ... def. Moya, Roddick, Safin, Henman) . I watched that match so many times. so much drama. If Goran hadn't been such a nutcase he could've had at least 2/3 more W titles in his pocket. I felt bad for Rafter after all but Goran finally made it.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
02-14-2013, 04:53 AM
the only difference between wimbledon 2007 and wimbledon 2008 was both players played like shit in 2008

both played their peak levels in 2007

nadal choked away a straight set win in 2008

federer played at 10% for the first 2 sets in 2008- and 40% for the rest of the match

BackhandDTL
02-14-2013, 05:11 AM
2004-Roger Federer defeats Shandi Dick Rod in four sets. The match was close but it was never really in doubt, despite what some say. A good dramtic encounter.


Bullshit. I'm sure you weren't saying that when Roddick was up a break in the third and looking like the better player headed into the rain delay.

Their H2H had not yet become so wildly lopsided, and Federer's dominance was only just underway, so belief hardly seemed an issue at the time. Besides, Federer himself has admitted multiple times that he was fortunate to have had a break.


On another note, I agree with those who say that the 2007 final was superior to 2008 in terms of quality. People vastly overrate the '08 meeting because of the script, but the actual tennis was all over the place compared to its precedent.

End da Game
02-14-2013, 05:17 AM
Bullshit. I'm sure you weren't saying that when Roddick was up a break in the third and looking like the better player headed into the rain delay.

Their H2H had not yet become so wildly lopsided, and Federer himself has admitted multiple times that he was fortunate to have had a break.


On another note, I agree with those who say that the 2007 final was superior to 2008 in terms of quality. People vastly overrate the '08 meeting because of the script, but the actual tennis was all over the place compared to its precedent.

yeah I agree, the duck ran federer very close in 2004, back then that was the real andy roddick with an aggressive serve AND forehand, not the psuedo-pusher he later became :facepalm:

Absolute Anthropoid
02-14-2013, 05:21 AM
2009. Was a fun match.

That backhand volley of Randy Odd Dick must still be a painful memory

Mountaindewslave
02-14-2013, 05:25 AM
2009 has more votes then I would have guessed, way too much of a heartache if you ask me, only one of the 2000's Wimbledon finals were possibly the wrong player won (as far as who played the best match)

if you're nostalgic you'll vote 2001 obviously but we've got to think quality wise it was either 2008 Fed/Nadal or one of Federer's sublime thrashing's of Roddick in what 2004/2005

BackhandDTL
02-14-2013, 05:34 AM
2009. Was a fun match.

That backhand volley of Randy Odd Dick must still be a painful memory

You know, people look at that backhand volley as the one major mistake he made, but I think his first set point up 6-2 may have been just a bad. Fed blocked his first serve back with a pretty lofty slice that fell inside the court. Rather than playing an aggressive forehand, like the younger Andy would have done, he answered it with a short slice that invited Fed's initiative with his own FH.

It's not as obvious, and therefore not as memorable as the blunderous volley, but it was just as grave.

Absolute Anthropoid
02-14-2013, 07:12 AM
You know, people look at that backhand volley as the one major mistake he made, but I think his first set point up 6-2 may have been just a bad. Fed blocked his first serve back with a pretty lofty slice that fell inside the court. Rather than playing an aggressive forehand, like the younger Andy would have done, he answered it with a short slice that invited Fed's initiative with his own FH.

It's not as obvious, and therefore not as memorable as the blunderous volley, but it was just as grave.

Definitely the point was passive from Randy. The blunderous volley is just so iconic because it's an epic fail by pure definition. An obvious put-away shot. Not just allowing Federer into the rally but to declare to the world his mugginess

Whiznot
02-14-2013, 08:17 AM
The 2001 Rafter-Ivanisevic Wimbledon final was the most exciting tennis match I've ever seen and I've been tuned to tennis since the 1960's. I pity any tennis fan who missed that match. The final was played on a Monday due to rain. The usual staid Wimbledon audience was replaced by ordinary rabid tennis fans who went crazy after every point and created an atmosphere like no other. The quality of play was extraordinary and the tension was incredible.

The 2008 Wimbledon match was also great but the rain delays were a bummer. Federer was a bundle of nerves for the first two sets and played like crap. The end of the final set was played in almost total darkness which was unfair to both players.

The 2008 final was more recent. Many MTF members were children in 2001 and probably didn't see the greatest match.

Thank you Goran and Patrick for the best match ever.

Abel
02-14-2013, 11:03 AM
'01 and '09 and then '08. In that order.

Federer in 2
02-14-2013, 11:05 AM
Ivanisevic - Rafter.

TigerTim
02-14-2013, 11:13 AM
1. 01
2. 07
3. 09
4. 08/04

Roy Emerson
02-14-2013, 02:36 PM
There were many great Wimbledon finals in the naughties. Ivanisevic-Rafter 2001, Federer-Nadal 2007, Federer-Nadal 2008
and Federer-Roddick 2009. All great and exciting finals.

The last 3 Wimbledon finals, 2010, 2011 and 2012 were dull. Boring 3 or 4 setters that lacked the thrill of those mentioned above with one of the finalists basically MIA.

rocketassist
02-14-2013, 02:42 PM
There were many great Wimbledon finals in the naughties. Ivanisevic-Rafter 2001, Federer-Nadal 2007, Federer-Nadal 2008
and Federer-Roddick 2009. All great and exciting finals.

The last 3 Wimbledon finals, 2010, 2011 and 2012 were dull. Boring 3 or 4 setters that lacked the thrill of those mentioned above with one of the finalists basically MIA.

2011 was terrible. Not only should Rafole never be a Wimbledon final match up but Nadal was so poor it was probably the worst slam final I've ever watched, besides AO 2011.

ProdigyEng
02-14-2013, 03:00 PM
2001 final was great from what I remember. It was the first slam final I ever watched so memory of it is vague. I need to try and find video of it somewhere :)

Abel
02-14-2013, 03:52 PM
2001 final was great from what I remember. It was the first slam final I ever watched so memory of it is vague. I need to try and find video of it somewhere :)

It's on YouTube.

bounccer
02-14-2013, 04:54 PM
woman ;)

and thank you, I really believe that was the day they both played their best tennis against each other and yes, Roger choked it away :lol:

the Wimbledon 08 final was hugely overrated in terms of quality, Rafa should have won in straights and the whole drama was more about the rain delays than the actual play

Was it good? yes, but I think they both played much better in 2007 ;)

Yeah, quality wise, both were better in 2007. Nadal was better than Federer in 2007 but he lost those tie break and he had some break points early in the fifth.

Personnaly, i choose this 2001 final. Epic drama.

ProdigyEng
02-14-2013, 04:55 PM
It's on YouTube.

Full match? Awesome thanks man.

Orbis
02-14-2013, 05:25 PM
Wimbledon 08, but 01 will always hold a special place in my heart. Seemed like every Croat I knew was watching talking about the match :lol:

Whiznot
02-14-2013, 05:32 PM
In the 2001 final there was no bad guy. The crowd seemed to be pulling for the sport of tennis and supporting the players equally. I was for Goran because the guy is a riot and he'd never won a slam but I also loved Rafter. I've a copy of that match but I haven't gone back and watched the whole thing.

bounccer
02-14-2013, 05:49 PM
2011 was really baaaaaaaad

I still can't believe that Rafa played so bad in a slam final. Really, Rafa "the great", who always plays great in these big matches?! He was better in 2006!!

I can understand his lost in the USO and in the AO where he played at a good level, but, this final was embarrassing

Abel
02-14-2013, 05:52 PM
Full match? Awesome thanks man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdpjin3vfM :)

samanosuke
02-14-2013, 05:56 PM
The 2001 Rafter-Ivanisevic Wimbledon final was the most exciting tennis match I've ever seen and I've been tuned to tennis since the 1960's. I pity any tennis fan who missed that match. The final was played on a Monday due to rain. The usual staid Wimbledon audience was replaced by ordinary rabid tennis fans who went crazy after every point and created an atmosphere like no other. The quality of play was extraordinary and the tension was incredible.

The 2008 Wimbledon match was also great but the rain delays were a bummer. Federer was a bundle of nerves for the first two sets and played like crap. The end of the final set was played in almost total darkness which was unfair to both players.

The 2008 final was more recent. Many MTF members were children in 2001 and probably didn't see the greatest match.

Thank you Goran and Patrick for the best match ever.

:yeah:


That Wimbledon was the best tournament ever

Certinfy
02-14-2013, 06:06 PM
Last year's Wimbledon doubles final was the greatest Wimbledon final ever.

Trollicki
02-14-2013, 07:06 PM
2001. Made a great impression on pre-teen me. Not just great drama, but great grass tennis too. And the guy I was rooting for won to boot, though both would have been deserved winners. :bounce:

retister
02-14-2013, 07:28 PM
2001 for me. What Ivanisevic managed to do was out of this world (ranked 125, got a WC to enter the MD ... def. Moya, Roddick, Safin, Henman) . I watched that match so many times. so much drama. If Goran hadn't been such a nutcase he could've had at least 2/3 more W titles in his pocket. I felt bad for Rafter after all but Goran finally made it.
I've simply nothing to add to this.

GSMnadal
02-14-2013, 07:29 PM
2011 was really baaaaaaaad

I still can't believe that Rafa played so bad in a slam final. Really, Rafa "the great", who always plays great in these big matches?! He was better in 2006!!

I can understand his lost in the USO and in the AO where he played at a good level, but, this final was embarrassing

Couldn't agree more. That was the match where it was most clear Novak was in his head. Before that match he actually played great in the tournament and Nole, not so much.

Timariot
02-14-2013, 08:31 PM
2001 easily. Only reason why it probably doesn't top the poll is that many MTF posters weren't born by then yet.

IOFH
02-14-2013, 08:36 PM
2004 was the highest quality one. 2005 was the most entertaining one.

alypen
02-14-2013, 11:42 PM
2001 easily. Only reason why it probably doesn't top the poll is that many MTF posters weren't born by then yet.

Or maybe because it was on a Monday and we had to go to work and couldn't see it :(. Or was that the one where my TV broke down the night before and I couldn't manually programme the video? I really wanted Rafter to win that one, too (Ivanisevic beating Henman in that horrible semi might have had something to do with it, too). What I saw of it later was a very good match, certainly.

Definitely not 2009: I watched that one on DVD the other day and decided life was too short to repeat the experience :)

Think I'm probably tempted to say 2007, bearing in mind that 2009 is the only one I've watched more than once (yet. Two others are still on my LOVEFILM rental list). I have reservations about voting for a match where the result may have partly depended on which player had more carrots in his diet :)

Coolio_Jack
02-14-2013, 11:58 PM
Really, its embarrasing to vote for anything other than 2001, the quality of that match is not even that important, the point is that its safe to say that a match with that kind of atmosphere, and a movie like story behind it, will most likely never be repeated again.

Alex999
02-15-2013, 12:20 AM
Really, its embarrasing to vote for anything other than 2001, the quality of that match is not even that important, the point is that its safe to say that a match with that kind of atmosphere, and a movie like story behind it, will most likely never be repeated again.
The 2001 Wibledon final was rated sixteenth at the list of 100 Greatest Sporting Moments by a British TV station if I remember correctly (It wasn't BBC, channel 4 I think).

Hewitt =Legend
02-15-2013, 12:22 AM
2001. No other year even comes close, including the 2008 "epic".

ProdigyEng
02-15-2013, 12:31 AM
Fedal tards ruined the poll, yet I've seen none of them actually come in here and defend their reasoning behind voting that final.... I think we all know Wimbledon 2001 was the best final of the naughties.

Alex999
02-15-2013, 12:46 AM
Fedal tards ruined the poll, yet I've seen none of them actually come in here and defend their reasoning behind voting that final.... I think we all know Wimbledon 2001 was the best final of the naughties.
yeah Prodigy, spot on ... that's how I feel too. The 2008 final was epic (and expected btw), but not as good as 2001 in terms of pure entertainment, excitement, quality of play ... there was so much 'magic' in that match :). If some of you younger guys haven't seen it, you must... Go to you tube, you'll be able to find the complete match.

Han Solo
02-15-2013, 12:48 AM
Fedal tards ruined the poll, yet I've seen none of them actually come in here and defend their reasoning behind voting that final.... I think we all know Wimbledon 2001 was the best final of the naughties.

Can you end it with all this incessant "tard" shite?

2001 and 2007 were the best for me, although 2008 fairly close.

Alex999
02-15-2013, 12:53 AM
Can you end it with all this incessant "tard" shite?

2001 and 2007 were the best for me, although 2008 fairly close.
fair enough Han, but I think his point is that many guys voted just for the sake of voting (especially younger Fed/Rafa fans, without really saying why/elaborating ... some of them probably haven't even seen the 2001 W final). I'm not his devil's advocate but that's just my impression :)

Hewitt =Legend
02-15-2013, 12:56 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at least half of the current members on this site haven't even watched the 2001 final.

Han Solo
02-15-2013, 01:07 AM
fair enough Han, but I think his point is that many guys voted just for the sake of voting (especially younger Fed/Rafa fans, without really saying why/elaborating ... some of them probably haven't even seen the 2001 W final). I'm not his devil's advocate but that's just my impression :)

Constantly harping on about "tards" is...for want of a better word, retarded. The fact that some people might have voted and not explained why does not really excuse this. I mean, who gives a shit about poll results on this or any other forum/media where the public get to vote anyway?

Enough of that.

2001 - drama, great story, great tennis, Ivanisevic comeback, Rafter so likeable, great crowd as others have said.

2007 - the two greats of the decade playing close to their best tennis (Nadal almost doing it on grass, Federer just a notch down from his very best), the match genuinely up for grabs.

2008 - quality not as high as 2007 perhaps overall, and I certainly felt during the match there was only one winner, so not quite as exciting.

2003
05-25-2014, 12:13 PM
2011 was really baaaaaaaad

I still can't believe that Rafa played so bad in a slam final. Really, Rafa "the great", who always plays great in these big matches?! He was better in 2006!!

I can understand his lost in the USO and in the AO where he played at a good level, but, this final was embarrassing

Uhhhh, acutally Rafa played like utter crap in the 2011 US Open final, his serve deserted him and Nole was injured in the 4th set and still won 6-1 :worship:

GSMnadal
05-25-2014, 12:37 PM
Uhhhh, acutally Rafa played like utter crap in the 2011 US Open final, his serve deserted him and Nole was injured in the 4th set and still won 6-1 :worship:

The third set was of an incredibly high standard though. Nadal fought his heart out, Djokovic was just too much at the USO.

At Wimbledon, he never even showed up. It was just a stinker of a performance. You didn't even have the feeling Djokovic had to push himself.

As for Novak's injury, well, he had a little niggle but nothing more. He was hitting and moving just fine.

swebright
05-25-2014, 03:58 PM
Somehow, I like that 2004 final. May be because that's one match Andy played his best.

After that, his spirit was broken forever ....... :-(

LaFuria
05-25-2014, 04:44 PM
2001 and it's not even close.

RicardotheGreat
05-25-2014, 05:32 PM
2001. By far.