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Doha F: Davydenko def Nadal 0-6 7-6(8) 6-4 saving 2 MP

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samanosuke
01-09-2010, 05:30 PM
Amazing

MalwareDie
01-09-2010, 05:30 PM
Kolya saved tennis.

habibko
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

saved 2 match points on Nadal's serve in the TB, fought back down a break in the 3rd, took everything peak form Rafito threw at him and outclassed him in the end, TOO GOOD this Davy!!!!!

Cloudygirl
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Brilliant match. Either could stand a good chance at the AO judging by that match.

tealeaves
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Thank god I watch this match at 2nd set Tiebreak :worship:
Great fight Davy:worship:

Chiakifug
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Brilliant stuff. He better bring this so Melbourne.

Nadal was pissed.

Topspin Forehand
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Nadal. You are pathetic. If you can't beat Davydenko today, you'll never beat him. What a choke job. :mad:

Primus
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Still, can't save you from stupidity

ImmzB
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Nadal!!!!!

alter ego
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
This IS SPARTA !!!!

Mechlan
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Good stuff. Some frail mental moments, but hung in there and won it in the end. Congrats.

PiggyGotRoasted
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Davydenko now part of a top 6?
What a fighter this davydenko

Now has a winning record over nadal :D

Fiberlight1
01-09-2010, 05:31 PM
Nadal really choked that one away.

Brilliant stuff by both guys though.. Davy played some incredible volleys.

Laba
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
Pathetic from Nadal, absolutely fucking pathetic.

SheepleBuster
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
Davydenko took the trash out. Good home skills.

TheTennisFanatic
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
couldn't catch the first set. what happened?

Vee Williams
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
3rd win in a row against Rafa. A very entertaining match

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
good tennis from Nadal, great from Davydenko

one of the very few times Nadal losses after having MP (how many exactly Voo?)

ReturnWinner
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
yessss , first time I remember Nadal lost having mp after losing against Ferrer in Stuttgart 04, Davy leads the HTH 5-4 beating him in three finals !!!!

Congrats Davy, great recover after losing 0-6 the first set.

madmax
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
roasting took a bit longer than expected, but never in doubt anyway:bowdown: Now win yout first slam at last, you fookin champ:woohoo:

Cloudygirl
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
Nadal. You are pathetic. If you can't beat Davydenko today, you'll never beat him. What a choke job. :mad:


oh god save us from the 'tards on both sides.

It was a great match on both sides.

prafull
01-09-2010, 05:32 PM
Lucky

PiggyGotRoasted
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
Davydenko 5 - 4 H2H over Piggy

LinkMage
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
VAMOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Poor Rafito had nothing left in the tank after winning the grueling Abu Dhabi Grand Slam and having a brutal draw here in Doha. :awww:

MatchFederer
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
There was some truly tremendous tennis played in this final. Some of the groundstroke barrages were pretty awesome. Nice stuff!

prima donna
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
Davydenko is a tough nut to crack.

gaitare
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
Cold handshake by the defeated player.

Davydenko is awesome. What volleys.

As much as I don't like Nadal, you have to give a lot of respect to him for this tournament.

Fiberlight1
01-09-2010, 05:33 PM
oh god save us from the 'tards on both sides.

It was a great match on both sides.

Agreed.. People are so blind with hate that they can't even notice the quality of the match.

Bad Religion
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
Retire from tennis Nadal , you pathetic piece of shit

Losing to a doper slamless clown is embarrasing enough

ChinoRios4Ever
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
Rafa's downhill continues, now he's becoming a choker. :o

If Kolya keep this form, could win the AO and a #1 contender this year, kudos to him. :yeah:

zlaja777
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
We will have an epic GS in Melbourne...

Yuran
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
Great match :worship:

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
Magnificent stuff from Davy - even with a horror start, 5 or 6 nasty chokes at key moments, and Nadal fluking them off the netcord constantly, pulls it out of the bag.


Davy now 17 of last 18 tiebreaks.

Nadal now 1 win from his last 11 vs top 10 (and the one was Tsonga with a wrist injury).

I♥PsY@Mus!c
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
I love you Davy! :hearts:
You are my hero! :hearts:

rafa_maniac
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
Just dreadful. Rafa no longer has the confidence to win big matches against top players. I hoped a new year might turn things around for him, but it was the same old crap. Terrific, dominating first set, then inexplicably resorting to passive, short, defensive crap for the rest. Don't know how he managed to get to match points in the 2nd and a winning position in the third, but true to recent efforts he fucked it up at every important occasion :yeah:

Everko
01-09-2010, 05:35 PM
what a great 1st set :worship:

sawan66278
01-09-2010, 05:35 PM
Gutted. Rafael Nadal, mark my words, is in HUGE trouble. He has become a mental midget...and Davydenko has become the #1 player in the world. Two match points. Up a break in the third with TWO break points to go up a double break. 4-4 in the third, love-30...and he still found a way to lose. F'ing loser.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

I need to remove the quote from below...because the man has become an f'ing joke.

anon57
01-09-2010, 05:35 PM
Exciting match after the onesided first set. Good win for Nikolay, I wasn't expecting him to keep up the level he had in the second set though but don't mind being proven wrong.

Cloudygirl
01-09-2010, 05:36 PM
Agreed.. People are so blind with hate that they can't even notice the quality of the match.

I think some people on MTF really need a life.

Roasting = no
fantastic match with brilliant tennis on both sides = yup

Rafa is back on form this year, Kolya is playing the best tennis of his life, and I think Federer is on a slight dip. Tennis will be very interesting this year.

tennizen
01-09-2010, 05:36 PM
Rafa,what a ginormous fuck up you are.

SheepleBuster
01-09-2010, 05:36 PM
What was up with that first set though. 6-0? I mean come on Davy. This is not clay or anything. Nadal dodged a bullet against Soderling in his last event but he is really playing much better this year. But his game is the same. His body will crack yet again if he continues like this. Cilic, Delpo, Murray, Novak, Davy will beat Rafa from time to time.

Arkulari
01-09-2010, 05:36 PM
Very good match, both players played very good but at the end Kolya was the clutch player, I thought it was over after Rafa broke in the third but Kolya got his act together and won convincingly

http://i45.tinypic.com/20a9thj.jpg

Both men have to be top AO contenders with this level, congrats to Kolya and :hug: to Rafa, you gave your best and is good to see you playing like this :)

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 05:36 PM
what a great 1st set :worship::haha:

Tennis won today. :worship:

Acer
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Va-va-va-vamooooooos

Puschkin
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Brilliant match. :worship: to both players.

maratsmaiden
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
what a match... Nadal had two mp's during the 2nd set tb. Davydenko showed mental toughness, esp after having lost serve a number of times during the breaker, and having gone down a break in the 3rd set. So happy for him, hope he brings it to AO!

rhinooooo
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
What a stud this Davy.

Contrary to all the doommongers from a month ago, and today... Rafa looks back and refreshed. Still fell into some of his old failings but that will usually happen against a bad matchup like Davy.

Nikolay deserves credit. He won this match without a serve.

Corey Feldman
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Nadal gutted Federer didnt make the final :lol:

dedicated to that fucking idiot rafitoparera poster :lol:

Sophocles
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Good match and impressive comeback from Davydenko, toughing it out against an initially red-hot opponent.

So let's see, what injury did Nadal pick up early in the 2nd set?

prafull
01-09-2010, 05:37 PM
Still Changes nothing for the season. Nadal will win all 4 slams.

Rosa Luxembourg
01-09-2010, 05:38 PM
hats off to Kolya! :respect:

awesome match - hope for more of these in 2010

Topspin Forehand
01-09-2010, 05:38 PM
Thank God Davydenko is almost 29. It would be miserable if he played like for a long time. Age should get him soon. :)

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 05:38 PM
Still Changes nothing for the season. Nadal will win all 4 slams.

good to know
for a moment i thought he wouldnt

Everko
01-09-2010, 05:38 PM
Nadal gutted Federer didnt make the final :lol:

dedicated to that fucking idiot rafitoparera poster :lol:

Don't tell me Federer could habe beaten Nadal. Federer got beat bad by Davy. Rafa served up a bagel

MrChopin
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
Excellent for tennis. Nadal is still the favorite at AO, but Donkey showed he is ready to take a big step. He needs to rest up now.

Fed now looking the genius for yesterday's tank. Nadal spends nearly 3 hours on court to lose momentum and edge over Davy.

And looking further ahead to AO, the top 4 get either Murray, Davy, Roddick, or Soderling in the quarters. AO is going to be exciting.

Laba
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
There was once a time where Nadal would only choke on bananas during change-overs... what a fucking JOKE. Seriously, take a bow. Gutless fuck. Everything that once won him matches has since deserted him. Good luck in Melbourne, Rafa... you're damn sure gonna fucking need it.

MsTree
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
I think some people on MTF really need a life.

Roasting = no
fantastic match with brilliant tennis on both sides = yup

Rafa is back on form this year, Kolya is playing the best tennis of his life, and I think Federer is on a slight dip. Tennis will be very interesting this year.

Too sensible for GM Tori :p

Koyla :worship: amazing fightback, bagelled in the first set, saving MPs, too good! A pleasure to watch! :D

MalwareDie
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
Still Changes nothing for the season. Nadal will win all 4 slams.

:smash: Moron.

PiggyGotRoasted
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
Thank God Davydenko is almost 29. It would be miserable if he played like for a long time. Age should get him soon. :)

You are one very very sad person

alter ego
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
Davydenko = the Fedal killer, 5 wins in a row (2 against Federer, 3 against Nadal) in 3 months. :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

stebs
01-09-2010, 05:39 PM
Just dreadful. Rafa no longer has the confidence to win big matches against top players. I hoped a new year might turn things around for him, but it was the same old crap. Terrific, dominating first set, then inexplicably resorting to passive, short, defensive crap for the rest. Don't know how he managed to get to match points in the 2nd and a winning position in the third, but true to recent efforts he fucked it up at every important occasion :yeah:

:lol: Embarassingly biased. Nadal was at a very high level throughout the match. In fact, I have rarely, if ever, seen him play a better two sets on a hardcourt than his first two here. Davydenko was fantastic to push a red hot Nadal in the ssecond set and then brave enough to take it.

Second set was one of the best sets of tennis you're ever likely to see. Of course the two don't have big serves but other than that every other aspect of their games was clicking for both players and it was great to watch.

Show some respect.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 05:40 PM
What was up with that first set though. 6-0?


Choking, to put it simply. His first two service games he was OK, 40-30, then doublefaulted and was broken from there.

Was doing that most of the match, very up/down, nasty errors at key moments. 4 doublefaults, and all at brutally horrible times - the 3rd was serving for the 2nd set, bp down. 4th was in the tiebreak to give back a minibreak.

TheTennisFanatic
01-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Retire from tennis Nadal , you pathetic piece of shit

Losing to a doper slamless clown is embarrasing enough

I guess then Federer should retire too. Also del potro as he lost to him recently in WTF.

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Still Changes nothing for the season. Nadal will win all 4 slams.Nadull can't deliver when he faces a real opponent. :lol:

Dedicated to Start_da_Game. :rocker2:

Mechlan
01-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Fantastic play by Nadal in the first set, just too good. Davydenko was missing a lot at the beginning of the second, if Nadal had played like he did in the first, he could have put it away much more easily. Once Davydenko found the range, Nadal's level came down as well and Kolya was the better player.

Nadal will be kicking himself at all the opportunities he was handed that he threw away. He certainly looked pissed at the end.

SheepleBuster
01-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Even though Davy beat Fed, I am very happy for him. He is finally stopping those choke jobs. He could have had a slam final if he did it earlier. Hope Soderling keeps his level too (not the one he had at Chennai. Murray lost to Robredo, Federer and Nadal lost to Davy. This year is going to be very exciting. I think Del Po will probably end up No. 1 though.

SerenaFederer
01-09-2010, 05:40 PM
:speakles: only saw that last game as i now got home...but 2 mps and a break down in the 3rd??? 0-6 first set? wow bald head :speakles:

Michael Bluth
01-09-2010, 05:41 PM
Definite signs of improvement from Nadal, great depth on his shots.

The biggest thing was his first serve failed him at key points and Davydenko took advantage brilliantly.

croat123
01-09-2010, 05:41 PM
Davy saves tennis :worship:
Nadal played well in the first set, but once Davy raised his level you always had a sense Davy would pull it out

CooCooCachoo
01-09-2010, 05:42 PM
Wow. Great week for Kolya.

superslam77
01-09-2010, 05:42 PM
Kolya ROAAAAASTERRRR :rocker2:!!

Not even with corrupted draw of mugs you can defeat Jack 2.

rafa_maniac
01-09-2010, 05:42 PM
I have rarely, if ever, seen him play a better two sets on a hardcourt than his first two here.

The 2nd set? :lol:

madmax
01-09-2010, 05:43 PM
Even without a serve and with shaky start Kolya still delivered roasted goods:devil: You can always count on an old reliable Davy to send moonballer packing...now finally win that AO slam, you champ

castle007
01-09-2010, 05:43 PM
I couldn't watch the match, but I am very happy that Davydenko won!! He is finally reaping the rewards after the hard work that he has put in for the last 4 years!!

I would love to see him win a slam this year!

SheepleBuster
01-09-2010, 05:43 PM
I am tired of these Nadal fans bashing Roger for being arrogant but Nadal gives cold handshakes everytime he loses. He is a sour loser and I hope he continues losing. It's fun to watch!

your_valentine
01-09-2010, 05:43 PM
Kolya saves tennis one more time :worship: Love ya :kiss:

stebs
01-09-2010, 05:44 PM
The 2nd set? :lol:

Yes. :lol:

swisht4u
01-09-2010, 05:44 PM
Good match for Davy, this match was all about mental strength.

Davy has been surprising in that area for awhile now.

Add another player who doesn't fear Nadal.

rhinooooo
01-09-2010, 05:45 PM
:haha: What the fuck is this trophy ceremony... some funky house/techno matrix style shit that would be awesome if you were popping pills... not really good for a tennis event in Qatar.

lazybear
01-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Kolya you magnificent beast.

Bilbo
01-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Davy has to be the AO fave now

oh wait...

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 05:46 PM
True, Kolya's serve was mostly useless today and he still won. However, had Nadull kept the good length he had in the 1st set there might've been trouble for Denko. But in the end Nadull went back to his usual pushing and lost because of it. Granted, the ukranian played very good and deserves praise for this performance.

MrChopin
01-09-2010, 05:46 PM
I am tired of these Nadal fans bashing Roger for being arrogant but Nadal gives cold handshakes everytime he loses. He is a sour loser and I hope he continues losing. It's fun to watch!

Can the handshake police post analysis and pictures? Can't believe Rafa would give a cold handshake.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 05:46 PM
Davy has to be the AO fave now


Have they changed it to best-of-3? :-)

sawan66278
01-09-2010, 05:46 PM
Nadal's handshake, while understandable, just adds to the fact: he has become a joke. Fortune favors the brave...and Nadal is no longer even slightly courageous.

TheBoiledEgg
01-09-2010, 05:47 PM
roasting took a bit longer than expected, but never in doubt anyway:bowdown: Now win yout first slam at last, you fookin champ:woohoo:


Kolya forgot to turn the oven on :speakles:

got the job done in end
legendary Kolya :worship: :worship: :worship:

Bascule
01-09-2010, 05:47 PM
Unbelievable result. :eek: Haven't seen the match, but this score is something I would never expect from Nadal.
Any downloads of the match?
Still I don't believe Davy could win AO.

nsidhan
01-09-2010, 05:47 PM
Davy Jones beats a PEAK Nadal. No excuses for bringing up Nadal's knees or lack of match practice or whatever. He played like the World #1 Nadal of 2008 and Davydenko BEAT him.

What a SPARTAN this Davydenko is :worship:

Corey Feldman
01-09-2010, 05:48 PM
Davydenko = the Fedal killer, 5 wins in a row (2 against Federer, 3 against Nadal) in 3 months. :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:Murray was doing the same thing this time last year and look at him now... hiding out in some Aussie exho and choking matches to Robredo :o

lets wait and see what Denko does in AO

Andi-M
01-09-2010, 05:48 PM
Tough loss for Rafa to take he gave it all and threw the kitchen sink at Davy, yet still wasn't enough to beat him.

Rafa played very well though, he has made massive improvements in the last 2 months almost back to 2008 form.

Davy is a sensational player he may not have ever won a GS before but I'd have him easily as a top 4 favourite for AO.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 05:48 PM
Davy Jones beats a PEAK Nadal.

Already happened. Miami 2008.

Mechlan
01-09-2010, 05:49 PM
Yes. :lol:

The first set was red-lining from Rafa, the second was "just" good.

Some great tennis in the last couple of sets though, just waiting for the injury excuses now.

MrChopin
01-09-2010, 05:50 PM
Nadal's handshake, while understandable, just adds to the fact: he has become a joke. Fortune favors the brave...and Nadal is no longer even slightly courageous.

:eek: Say it ain't so Sawan!

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 05:50 PM
Nadal's handshake, while understandable, just adds to the fact: he has become a joke. Fortune favors the brave...and Nadal is no longer even slightly courageous.Uh, what are you going on about in your signature then? :lol: Now what was that word... bandwagoner?

Commander Data
01-09-2010, 05:50 PM
impressive stuff by both guys. I must, say Nadal was amazing in first set. Looked 100 % fit again. Should have stayed a little more agressive in 2nd set. Davy really is on fire right now and als seems improved in the mental department. To turn that match around was strong.

Both will compete for the AO title, no question. If Davy holds this form he certainly deserves a slam in 2010.

Potro, Fed, Nadal, Davy: thats the mix.

Arkulari
01-09-2010, 05:50 PM
Nadal's handshake, while understandable, just adds to the fact: he has become a joke. Fortune favors the brave...and Nadal is no longer even slightly courageous.

Jumping off the bandwagon already? :rolleyes:

People have the tendency to write off both Roger and Rafa and at the end of the day they end up proving everyone wrong, so hold your horses

BTW: where's the RafaTard brigade? hiding as usual when Rafa loses?

Corey Feldman
01-09-2010, 05:51 PM
thats right, peak Nadal beaten.. and after mp's and up a break in third :eek:

Denko 3-0 in finals v him, he's like what Nalbandian was to Federer.

sawan66278
01-09-2010, 05:51 PM
The first set was red-lining from Rafa, the second was "just" good.

Some great tennis in the last couple of sets though, just waiting for the injury excuses now.

The only excuse: brain lock. And, somehow, his guts have been removed.

Davydenko is the best player in the world over the last four months. Period and credit to him.

Eden
01-09-2010, 05:52 PM
Thanks for a highly entertaining match to both players :hatoff:
Just when you thought someone had the upper hand things turned around.
Excellent performance from Rafa in the 1st set, Kolya was able to raise his level and should have closed out the 2nd set way earlier. One really thought the missed chances would cost him the set. Rafa had the chance to go up a double break in the 3rd set and it seemed as Kolya would get a bit tired, but he stayed in there.
Congratulations to him :)

MrChopin
01-09-2010, 05:52 PM
BTW: where's the RafaTard brigade? hiding as usual when Rafa loses?

In the war room collectively trying to invent a new excuse for this inexplicable loss.

MatchFederer
01-09-2010, 05:53 PM
Nadal was hugely gracious in defeat, saying in the awards ceremony that he played a very good match today but that Davydenko played even better, and that he is playing his best tennis since 5 months ago.

habibko
01-09-2010, 05:53 PM
Rafa's downhill continues, now he's becoming a choker. :o

If Kolya keep this form, could win the AO and a #1 contender this year, kudos to him. :yeah:

the big problem with him is that he can't sustain it over 5 sets, that what would stop him from winning a slam :sad:

a little favorable draw and an inspired performance (i.e. straight sets wins over the top 5 players) could be his only chance.

this was a thrilling and spectacular match for sure, Nadal played so damn well and was a fucking beast, yet Davydenko just that little better in the end, two red hot players trading blows at the top levels is always something to behold :worship:

sawan66278
01-09-2010, 05:54 PM
:eek: Say it ain't so Sawan!

Uh, what are you going on about in your signature then? :lol: Now what was that word... bandwagoner?

Jumping off the bandwagon already? :rolleyes:

People have the tendency to write off both Roger and Rafa and at the end of the day they end up proving everyone wrong, so hold your horses

BTW: where's the RafaTard brigade? hiding as usual when Rafa loses?

Until Nadal shows a little more mental fortitude, THIS fan will call it as he sees it: rather than travel to the AO, he should visit Oz and go see the wizard. No brain, heart, or courage.

elessar
01-09-2010, 05:54 PM
:eek: Say it ain't so Sawan!
I think you're enjoying this just a little too much :(

My thoughts are with Start da game :hug: and Rafa :hug:

Macbrother
01-09-2010, 05:54 PM
I gotta say I thought Davy was done in the 3rd, down a break and close to going down a double break, but man, what a comeback. Although he still looks awkward at net a lot of times, he still came up with some really great touch there as well.

For the past 3 years really, all Davy's had to do is hold is nerve. The angles he can produce, particularly on the backhand side are absolutely first class. Should be an awesome AO.

tennizen
01-09-2010, 05:55 PM
=
BTW: where's the RafaTard brigade? hiding as usual when Rafa loses?

:hug:

MatchFederer
01-09-2010, 05:55 PM
LOOOLLL. Davydenko was looking at that golden eagle so lovingly there before the actual handing of the trophy. That needs to be captioned; genius.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 05:56 PM
In the war room collectively trying to invent a new excuse for this inexplicable loss.

Even the most dedicated Rafa fan needs to accept he's not perfect. Davy is now 5-0 versus him on hard - his game is nearly 100% perfect to exploit Rafa's weaknesses on the surface.

SheepleBuster
01-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Don't worry guys. Adam Helfant has just ordered new surfaces for all four slams, making them out of slow mud or something. Dirt ballers will continue to dominate.

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Second set was one of the best sets of tennis you're ever likely to see. Of course the two don't have big serves but other than that every other aspect of their games was clicking for both players and it was great to watch.

Show some respect.

The 2nd set? :lol:

he indeed played a very good second set. His balls hardly were short, just Davydenko was too good attacking from every position and going to the net

you cant have 2 MPs against an on-fire Davydenko (although he choked a few chances to finish it earlier) playing mediocre tennis.

Hellraiser
01-09-2010, 05:57 PM
First of all I'm very happy to see Denko beat Nadal, bcuz a lot of ppl said Fedex lost game with Denko, not Denko won it.

Russian show that he can beat even Nadal at this moment. Who can imagine that score after 0/6 in first?, Davydenko need to bring that sharpness to AO.

It's first week of the new season and it was so great, I wish whole season can be like this. And who tell that tennis atm is poor and boring.

theDreamer
01-09-2010, 05:57 PM
Just dreadful. Rafa no longer has the confidence to win big matches against top players. I hoped a new year might turn things around for him, but it was the same old crap. Terrific, dominating first set, then inexplicably resorting to passive, short, defensive crap for the rest. Don't know how he managed to get to match points in the 2nd and a winning position in the third, but true to recent efforts he fucked it up at every important occasion :yeah:

Totally disagree.
Didn't see the 3rd set, but in 2nd set, was playing
many nice deep groundies, and especially was using
the down the line forehand very well.

rafa_maniac
01-09-2010, 05:58 PM
Even the most dedicated Rafa fan needs to accept he's not perfect. Davy is now 5-0 versus him on hard - his game is nearly 100% perfect to exploit Rafa's weaknesses on the surface.

5-1. And perhaps before people start spouting the pre-rehearsed bullshit about Rafa's fans "hiding" they could actually read what some of his fans have written IN THIS THREAD in response to this loss, and they'll see that their opinion of him is that he is anything but "perfect".

Getta
01-09-2010, 05:59 PM
BTW: where's the RafaTard brigade? hiding as usual when Rafa loses?

tell me i'm here.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 05:59 PM
Don't worry guys. Adam Helfant has just ordered new surfaces for all four slams, making them out of slow mud or something. Dirt ballers will continue to dominate.

The irony is that the opposite is true on clay, where several major events have got faster - it's not unconceivable Davy would do the same thing to Nadal at Madrid or even Rome now. Roland Garros is pretty quick too, but 5 sets and Davy is screwed.

ChinoRios4Ever
01-09-2010, 06:00 PM
the big problem with him is that he can't sustain it over 5 sets, that what would stop him from winning a slam :sad:

a little favorable draw and an inspired performance (i.e. straight sets wins over the top 5 players) could be his only chance.

this was a thrilling and spectacular match for sure, Nadal played so damn well and was a fucking beast, yet Davydenko just that little better in the end, two red hot playres trading blows at the top levels is always something to behold :worship:

I think it's wideopen now, Kolya showed he can beat anyone in 3 sets matches and he's too strong mentally since Shanghai. He beat Fed, Rafa, Nole and Delpo in close matches recently. It's not the clear favorite for sure, but i rate him very high along with the top 5, i like his chances for the AO if he's stays fit.

As for Rafa, he can't beat a top player since his return, now he missed many chances (mps and break up in the 3rd) and still lose. Today he played his best match on hard since IW probably imo, but he choked when it counted. :shrug: At least, he gained some level once again, a lot better than in the last months of 2009 when he faced a top player everytime was killed in a beatdown.

rafa_maniac
01-09-2010, 06:00 PM
he indeed played a very good second set. His balls hardly were short, just Davydenko was too good attacking from every position and going to the net

you cant have 2 MPs against an on-fire Davydenko (although he choked a few chances to finish it earlier) playing mediocre tennis.

Not mediocre, but tactically inept and lacking assertiveness and confidence in the crunch moments. It was sheer force of will as per usual and a few timely gifts from Davy that made that 2nd set anything other than routine.

muniu
01-09-2010, 06:01 PM
I love this new Kvolleya :hearts: , I'm glad Kolya regrouped after very bad first set, good luck in AO :woohoo:

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Thank God Davydenko is almost 29. It would be miserable if he played like for a long time. Age should get him soon. :)

is that what Rafatards resort to in the end? :cuckoo:

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 06:02 PM
rafahaters are in for a real bashing tomorrow..............I.......don't.......think... .....so........ :D

Fedexex
01-09-2010, 06:02 PM
my two favourite players came back from 2 mps down to win :hearts::inlove:
well done Nikolay:D keep up the good form!

stebs
01-09-2010, 06:03 PM
It's hilarious all this criticism of Nadal like he's a fastcourt legend who can only be beaten when he drops his level a lot. He got outplayed by a massive performance from Davydenko. IMO, he is looking far better and far more likely to win the Australian Open than he was late last year. If he plays like that, he will be very hard to defeat over 5 sets by anyone. The only person I can see beating him comfortably is JMDP, other than that, it will take another massive performance.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 06:03 PM
5-1.


5-0, Shanghai 06 was carpet. Davy has a considerably weaker record on the stuff.

Cloudygirl
01-09-2010, 06:03 PM
I think he looks better than he did this time last year.

abraxas21
01-09-2010, 06:04 PM
I gotta say I thought Davy was done in the 3rd, down a break and close to going down a double break, but man, what a comeback. Although he still looks awkward at net a lot of times, he still came up with some really great touch there as well.

For the past 3 years really, all Davy's had to do is hold is nerve. The angles he can produce, particularly on the backhand side are absolutely first class. Should be an awesome AO.


After Kolya wasted 3 set points when he was serving for the second set, I thought he was going to choke the match away. I was surprised to see how he hang on in the tiebreak even after blowing the 4-1 lead and then another set point with his own serve. But he saved 2 MP and took the set. Good on him!

Then in th third set he seemed tired and when Nadal broke his serve I thought it was going to be all over. Nadal is not the kind of player who gives things for free and he was looking good. But Kolya again rised up and leveled the match and then took it!

So happy for Kolya. I think Nadal player amazingly well today and he certainly could have won the match in 2 sets but I guess that wasn't meant to be today. Kolya was just too big.

rafa_maniac
01-09-2010, 06:05 PM
5-0, Shanghai 06 was carpet. Davy has a considerably weaker record on the stuff.

No, it wasn't.

Labamba
01-09-2010, 06:05 PM
fantastic match :worship: great shot-making from both especially in the last two sets and lots of drama in that tiebreak

Davy is the man of the moment :yeah: but can he do the same in Melbourne?

born_on_clay
01-09-2010, 06:07 PM
This Davydenko will be a nice surprise in Melbourne
Mark my words

Fiberlight1
01-09-2010, 06:08 PM
fantastic match :worship: great shot-making from both especially in the last two sets and lots of drama in that tiebreak

Davy is the man of the moment :yeah: but can he do the same in Melbourne?

Doubtful.. He looked very tired at points in the third set..

He'll have to win matches in 3 or 4 sets cause he looks very tired towards the ends of his best of 3's.

abraxas21
01-09-2010, 06:10 PM
fantastic match :worship: great shot-making from both especially in the last two sets and lots of drama in that tiebreak

Davy is the man of the moment :yeah: but can he do the same in Melbourne?

I don't think so, tbh. But it would be great if he could...

Anyhow, Kolya for once will stop being so underrented and he will probably take the ATP-bandwagon player of the month lol

nsidhan
01-09-2010, 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Topspin Forehand
Thank God Davydenko is almost 29. It would be miserable if he played like for a long time. Age should get him soon.

Pathetic.

LeChuck
01-09-2010, 06:11 PM
good tennis from Nadal, great from Davydenko

one of the very few times Nadal losses after having MP

The only previous examples I can think of were his matches against Lapentti at Båstad in 2003 (he had 5 MPs), Calleri at IW in 2004 (he had 2 MPs), Ferrer at Stuttgart in 2004 (he had 3 MPs) and Berdych at Cincy in 2005 (he had 3 MPs).


Well done to Kolya :worship:. Rafa seems to always win these 'tense thrillers'. Beating him in this manner is probably more impressive than blowing him off the court in straight sets which happens to him quite a lot on outdoor and indoor hard courts.

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:12 PM
Nadull can't deliver when he faces a real opponent. :lol:

Dedicated to Start_da_Game. :rocker2:

too bad he is banned and we can't enjoy this with him ;) :lol:

l_mac
01-09-2010, 06:13 PM
5-0, Shanghai 06 was carpet.

I don't think so. And LOL at peak Nadal. Esp for Miami 08, when he was not in good form.

Rafa - :spit: :haha:

Davy - :yeah: but I predict a R16 exit at AO.

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 06:13 PM
No, it wasn't.

Taraflex. It may be a crossover, but both the manufacturers and the ATP classified it as carpet.

elessar
01-09-2010, 06:13 PM
He's banned :eek: Can't possibly imagine what he did to deserve this :sad:

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 06:15 PM
too bad he is banned and we can't enjoy this with him ;) :lol:

when was he banned?

jaana
01-09-2010, 06:16 PM
I don't think so, tbh. But it would be great if he could...

Anyhow, Kolya for once will stop being so underrented and he will probably take the ATP-bandwagon player of the month lol
nah, in January unexpected good performance at the AO defines the PotM

Arkulari
01-09-2010, 06:17 PM
The only previous examples I can think of were his matches against Lapentti at Båstad in 2003 (he had 5 MPs), Calleri at IW in 2004 (he had 2 MPs), Ferrer at Stuttgart in 2004 (he had 3 MPs) and Berdych at Cincy in 2005 (he had 3 MPs).




didn't Roger save MPs in Miami 05? I can't really remember :scratch:

barbadosan
01-09-2010, 06:18 PM
didn't Roger save MPs in Miami 05? I can't really remember :scratch:

Think it was 2 TB matchpoints

LeChuck
01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
didn't Roger save MPs in Miami 05? I can't really remember :scratch:

Nadal was 2 points away from victory in the 3rd set tiebreak (which Federer won 7-5), but he never had any MPs in that match.

elessar
01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
No MPs in Miami 05, Rafa led 5-3 in the TB before losing the next 4 points.

Corey Feldman
01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
RafitoGOAT hasnt posted since 6-0 5-5 for some reason

nsidhan
01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
After Fed, Kolya is my favorite for AO10. What a clean game. But sadly if that game is off a little bit, he has no backup plan.

Kolya I forgive you for refusing to sign us autographs in Cincy07.:yeah:

elessar
01-09-2010, 06:20 PM
when was he banned?
A few hours ago for homophobic comments, wasn't my first guess TBH.

selyoink
01-09-2010, 06:21 PM
Even Nadull at the top of his miserable game can't beat an average performance from Davy. What a joke this Nadull is. Davy forgot how to serve today and still bossed Nadull around the court. Nadull was crying in the locker room after the Fed loss yesterday and now you can see why. He is hopeless against Kolya the Great.

Arkulari
01-09-2010, 06:25 PM
Nadal was 2 points away from victory in the 3rd set tiebreak (which Federer won 7-5), but he never had any MPs in that match.

thank you :D
I didn't really remember :)

oh boy, RafaHaters gloating and RafaTards hiding, MTF at its best :worship:

Fiberlight1
01-09-2010, 06:25 PM
Even Nadull at the top of his miserable game can't beat an average performance from Davy. What a joke this Nadull is. Davy forgot how to serve today and still bossed Nadull around the court. Nadull was crying in the locker room after the Fed loss yesterday and now you can see why. He is hopeless against Kolya the Great.

Average performance by Davydenko? Are you kidding?

Bad Religion
01-09-2010, 06:25 PM
This shit called Davydenko has the same titles as a legend like Moya

Mug sport

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 06:27 PM
I don't think so. And LOL at peak Nadal. Esp for Miami 08, when he was not in good form.

Rafa - :spit: :haha:

Davy - :yeah: but I predict a R16 exit at AO.Wow, this post fails at so many levels actually. :D

philosophicalarf
01-09-2010, 06:29 PM
Even Nadull at the top of his miserable game can't beat an average performance from Davy. What a joke this Nadull is. Davy forgot how to serve today and still bossed Nadull around the court. Nadull was crying in the locker room after the Fed loss yesterday and now you can see why. He is hopeless against Kolya the Great.


Sooooo - you're not a fan then?


I was actually kinda impressed by Nadal today. Good to see him back towards his best.

Wonky last game though, he looked as if the stuffing had been knocked out of him by Davy resurgence #3452352345.

Cyrus_Paice
01-09-2010, 06:29 PM
Unbelievable tennis. Maybe one of the best matches we'll see 2010.


@Bad Religion

Moya is a great champion, but also an underachiever. In addition Davydenko is a great player too.

born_on_clay
01-09-2010, 06:29 PM
Great match
Rafa isn't there mentally yet
Congrats Davy - great victory :)

nsidhan
01-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by selyoink
Even Nadull at the top of his miserable game can't beat an average performance from Davy. What a joke this Nadull is. Davy forgot how to serve today and still bossed Nadull around the court. Nadull was crying in the locker room after the Fed loss yesterday and now you can see why. He is hopeless against Kolya the Great.

Both players played great tennis the last two sets. Davy was not average and Nadal was not miserable.

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:36 PM
He's banned :eek: Can't possibly imagine what he did to deserve this :sad:

when was he banned?

today, for a homophobic post, you can see it for 2k vcash. ;)

HKz
01-09-2010, 06:38 PM
Here comes the bandwagoners.

elessar
01-09-2010, 06:38 PM
Sold. Genci will give it to you right after you post it :awww:

ReturnWinner
01-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Nadal had a mp and lost to Berdych in Cinciy 05, so I think this is just the third time he loses having mps.

Psichogauchovna
01-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Kolya :yeah: amazing stuff, thank u :D

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:40 PM
Sold. Genci will give it to you right after you post it :awww:

vcash first, PM next :devil:

RagingLamb
01-09-2010, 06:41 PM
impressive stuff by both guys. I must, say Nadal was amazing in first set. Looked 100 % fit again. Should have stayed a little more agressive in 2nd set. Davy really is on fire right now and als seems improved in the mental department. To turn that match around was strong.

Agreed. I think it was a great match for both players. It looked like Davydenko was going to choke under pressure but he held on, and he played really well. Nadal, despite losing, showed a very strong performance, and could have been the winner. It just didn't happen for him today.

Certainly nothing to be ashamed of for either player.

Myrre
01-09-2010, 06:46 PM
Very good match, both players played very good but at the end Kolya was the clutch player, I thought it was over after Rafa broke in the third but Kolya got his act together and won convincingly

http://i45.tinypic.com/20a9thj.jpg

Both men have to be top AO contenders with this level, congrats to Kolya and :hug: to Rafa, you gave your best and is good to see you playing like this :)

Where do they get these winners counts from? I did my own count. Only counting clean winners, from baseline and at the net.

Davydenko 40 (2-24-14)
Nadal 14 (5- 3- 6)

Awesome tennis by Davydenko. In the tie break he hit 8 clean winners (Nadal zero)!

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:47 PM
finally SdG'$ post$ are good for $omething :drool:

heya
01-09-2010, 06:49 PM
A ballless Nadal was better than Mr. Sunshine Federer.
Everyone called Nik a cheating loser 3 years ago.
...I'm sure Nadal, Rod Laver, Mr. Mary Carillo, Andre Drugassi, McEnroe bros and the US Davis Cup team were still crying after Fedprincess' loss.

elessar
01-09-2010, 06:50 PM
finally SdG'$ post$ are good for $omething :drool:
You've got the money, where's my PM :D

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:52 PM
You've got the money, where's my PM :D

he gave me money, he got the PM, you give me money, you get one too :shrug:

Chiseller
01-09-2010, 06:52 PM
Damn, I'll yet again miss AO apart from a few matches. Might be one of the most competitive Slams in years.

too bad he is banned and we can't enjoy this with him ;) :lol:
What a loss. One down, dozens more to go.

elessar
01-09-2010, 06:54 PM
he gave me money, he got the PM, you give me money, you get one too :shrug:
I refuse to participate in that money grabbing scheme of yours, it's a matter of principle :(

rocketassist
01-09-2010, 06:55 PM
Haha Nadal fanboys whining in here, ffs he actually did play well in this one.

Foxy
01-09-2010, 06:55 PM
Took a while reading this stuff.
Bottom line is it was one of the very few losses where Rafa actually didn't play bad by any means. Just on contrary. One or two points here and there decided the match. For one I remember the second match point where Rafa hit deep second serve which many thought was out and then missed the forehand down the line (for winner) because he lost his concentration for that matter.

Rafa should be very optimistic heading to AO. He actually plays better than this time last year. And I definitely wouldn't mind Denko being in his quarter. Denko looks more vulnerable than their last match.

And a question for the haters. How many times did Rafa lose a best of 5 set match COMBINED against the following guys: Denko, Djoko, Nalbandian?

timafi
01-09-2010, 06:57 PM
:lol:

heya
01-09-2010, 06:57 PM
Nadal was 2 points away from victory in the 3rd set tiebreak (which Federer won 7-5), but he never had any MPs in that match.

No match point because an out shot was ignored by the umpire & linesman. No wonder Federer hated computer call challenges.

Machiavelli
01-09-2010, 06:58 PM
Kolya played like a legend, just without a serve, hats off to the ukrainian...

selyoink
01-09-2010, 06:58 PM
Average performance by Davydenko? Are you kidding?

When you win without a serve it can only be called an average performance.

habibko
01-09-2010, 06:58 PM
I refuse to participate in that money grabbing scheme of yours, it's a matter of principle :(

*counts Claire's vcash payment*

PM sent :p

Brick Top
01-09-2010, 06:59 PM
its time for first GS Kolya

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 06:59 PM
I request 1900$ for the same post that habibko requests 2000 so go for the cheaper price

rocketassist
01-09-2010, 06:59 PM
Took a while reading this stuff.
Bottom line is it was one of the very few losses where Rafa actually didn't play bad by any means. Just on contrary. One or two points here and there decided the match. For one I remember the second match point where Rafa hit deep second serve which many thought was out and then missed the forehand down the line (for winner) because he lost his concentration for that matter.

Rafa should be very optimistic heading to AO. He actually plays better than this time last year. And I definitely wouldn't mind Denko being in his quarter. Denko looks more vulnerable than their last match.

And a question for the haters. How many times did Rafa lose a best of 5 set match COMBINED against the following guys: Denko, Djoko, Nalbandian?

He was injured wasn't he though? :lol:

Nichele Hull
01-09-2010, 07:01 PM
Nadal must of gotten injured after blowing match points :sad:
Davy was lucky that he shots that were going 3 metres out was going in.

selyoink
01-09-2010, 07:03 PM
And a question for the haters. How many times did Rafa lose a best of 5 set match COMBINED against the following guys: Denko, Djoko, Nalbandian?

Idiotic question. He has never played either Davy or Nalbandian in a 5 set match so the opportunity to lose them in such a scenario has not existed. So go back in whatever hole you crawled out of Nadulltard.

Cloudygirl
01-09-2010, 07:04 PM
Habs stop vcash whoring.

superslam77
01-09-2010, 07:07 PM
i'm still waiting for the match upload at youtube :P

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 07:07 PM
And a question for the haters. How many times did Rafa lose a best of 5 set match COMBINED against the following guys: Denko, Djoko, Nalbandian?

Idiotic question. He has never played either Davy or Nalbandian in a 5 set match so the opportunity to lose them in such a scenario has not existed. So go back in whatever hole you crawled out of Nadulltard.

:lol:

Foxy the genius strikes again

habibko
01-09-2010, 07:08 PM
Habs stop vcash whoring.

I've never loved Start da Game this much before.

Cyrus_Paice
01-09-2010, 07:09 PM
This thread shows how fair Nadal fans are compared to Federer fans. Nobody mentioned that Nadal was arguably the better player or insulted Davydenko for his win.

prafull
01-09-2010, 07:10 PM
When you win without a serve it can only be called an average performance.

Nice, now 74% First serves is called without a serve performance.:worship:

I think he did 78% against Federror (around 60% in second set) and that was called God serving.

Looks like you expect him to hit his normal 100% first serves in every match. No? ROFL

habibko
01-09-2010, 07:10 PM
I request 1900$ for the same post that habibko requests 2000 so go for the cheaper price

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

scarecrows
01-09-2010, 07:12 PM
This thread shows how fair Nadal fans are compared to Federer fans. Nobody mentioned that Nadal was arguably the better player or insulted Davydenko for his win.

like these you mean?

Retire from tennis Nadal , you pathetic piece of shit

Losing to a doper slamless clown is embarrasing enough

Thank God Davydenko is almost 29. It would be miserable if he played like for a long time. Age should get him soon. :)

selyoink
01-09-2010, 07:18 PM
Nice, now 74% First serves is called without a serve performance.:worship:

I think he did 78% against Federror (around 60% in second set) and that was called God serving.

Looks like you expect him to hit his normal 100% first serves in every match. No? ROFL

He served like a god in first set against Fed when he had 100%. Against Nadull he missed first serve on almost every important point and when he got serve in it was because he had little pace on it.

habibko
01-09-2010, 07:23 PM
i'm still waiting for the match upload at youtube :P

dR-snaE9xjM

Fiberlight1
01-09-2010, 07:25 PM
When you win without a serve it can only be called an average performance.

74%?

The serve is only half the equation.. When you hit your groundies like Davy did today, you can serve below average.

freeandlonely
01-09-2010, 07:25 PM
good to know

Kip
01-09-2010, 07:26 PM
Nikolay! :worship:

prafull
01-09-2010, 07:34 PM
dR-snaE9xjM

Thanks for the video. 6-5 tiebreak match point, Nadal had a really easy chance to pass on the second last shot. Nice choke job there.

3rd set 1-3 30-40 was an unbelievable effort from Davydenko. He gave his all on these shots. 101% power.:worship:

Beat
01-09-2010, 07:40 PM
Davy now 17 of last 18 tiebreaks.

Nadal now 1 win from his last 11 vs top 10 (and the one was Tsonga with a wrist injury).

:eek: about both stats.

EternalxJourney
01-09-2010, 07:54 PM
Niko, it's time for you to get your first Slam. VAMOS!

Voo de Mar
01-09-2010, 07:58 PM
good tennis from Nadal, great from Davydenko

one of the very few times Nadal losses after having MP (how many exactly Voo?)

5th but first since Cincinnati 2005 (Berdych 7-6 2-6 6-7 - 3 m.p.)

hablovah19
01-09-2010, 08:00 PM
Well done, Davydenko! :banana:

LinkMage
01-09-2010, 08:03 PM
too bad he is banned and we can't enjoy this with him ;) :lol:

Happened too quickly. :eek:

He was working really hard for the #1 seed at the 2010 ACC.

Leo
01-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Damn, I need to get me a copy of this match. Sounds like it was exquisite tennis.

Good day for me. Both my players, Clijsters and Davydenko, achieved huge victories and won their finals by saving 2 match points! Against the supposed mentally toughest in the business, Henin and Nadal.

Knew Nikolay had it in him to play this well on a streak, but he better get to Melbourne early, rest, practice, take it easy.

Bilbo
01-09-2010, 08:07 PM
where the prize money is high

let's see how davy plays in small tournaments

selyoink
01-09-2010, 08:08 PM
Does anyone other than Davy have a winning head-to-head against the Nadull with at least 7 played?

rofe
01-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Did Nadal have a knee injury, abdominal tear, pain in his buttocks, was mentally tired, physically tired, didn't practice enough etc.?

There is no way Nadal can lose if he is on top of his game right?

Cyrus_Paice
01-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Does anyone other than Davy have a winning head-to-head against the Nadull with at least 7 played?

Nobody has. As far as I know only him and Nalbandian (2-1) are positive.

Orka_n
01-09-2010, 08:13 PM
Nice, now 74% First serves is called without a serve performance.:worship:

I think he did 78% against Federror (around 60% in second set) and that was called God serving.

Looks like you expect him to hit his normal 100% first serves in every match. No? ROFLYou did see the match, right? Then you should've noticed that Denko's first serves were slow throughout, sometimes very slow.
This thread shows how fair Nadal fans are compared to Federer fans. Nobody mentioned that Nadal was arguably the better player or insulted Davydenko for his win.... :o

Check this thread again and you'll find some bitter Rafatards. I might add that the worst of the Nadullfans aren't even here.

superslam77
01-09-2010, 08:14 PM
dR-snaE9xjM

:worship:

alter ego
01-09-2010, 08:19 PM
Nobody has. As far as I know only him and Nalbandian (2-1) are positive.

Plus Cilic who won thier only match in Beijing.

MalwareDie
01-09-2010, 08:21 PM
Nalbandian should have a theoretical head-to-head of 3-0 versus Nadull.

Cyrus_Paice
01-09-2010, 08:28 PM
... :o

Check this thread again and you'll find some bitter Rafatards. I might add that the worst of the Nadullfans aren't even here.

At least they don't run around calling people evil pigs and the Nadal fans insulted Nadal ten times more than Davydenko.

Johnny Groove
01-09-2010, 08:52 PM
Gotta download this later.

From what I read, red-line play from Nadal in the 1st, and top quality stuff from both thereafter.

Also good to head Nadal pissed off at losing. This loss will help him to maintain focus at the AO, something I think would have been a bit lax had he won this match.

As for Davydenko, you gotta throw him up there with the top guys as a fave for the AO. What a wide open slam.

Johnny Groove
01-09-2010, 08:54 PM
Did Nadal have a knee injury, abdominal tear, pain in his buttocks, was mentally tired, physically tired, didn't practice enough etc.?

There is no way Nadal can lose if he is on top of his game right?

Nadal just lost to a better player :shrug: Happens pretty often actually.

Leo
01-09-2010, 08:55 PM
Nobody has. As far as I know only him and Nalbandian (2-1) are positive.

From ATPWorldTour.com: "Davydenko improved to a 5-4 mark against Nadal and is the only player to have beaten the Mallorcan at least five times and hold a winning record against him."

Cyrus_Paice
01-09-2010, 08:57 PM
Nadal just lost to a better player :shrug: Happens pretty often actually.

Better player? If you say so...


@Leo

Incase you misunderstood me, I meant nobody except Davydenko.

shotgun
01-09-2010, 09:01 PM
This Ukrainian is real good. Wonder if he can step it up and win his first Slam title in three weeks time.

king_roger
01-09-2010, 09:11 PM
Took a while reading this stuff.
Bottom line is it was one of the very few losses where Rafa actually didn't play bad by any means. Just on contrary. One or two points here and there decided the match. For one I remember the second match point where Rafa hit deep second serve which many thought was out and then missed the forehand down the line (for winner) because he lost his concentration for that matter.

Rafa should be very optimistic heading to AO. He actually plays better than this time last year. And I definitely wouldn't mind Denko being in his quarter. Denko looks more vulnerable than their last match.

And a question for the haters. How many times did Rafa lose a best of 5 set match COMBINED against the following guys: Denko, Djoko, Nalbandian?

Pretty stupid question, since both Davy and Nalbandian haven't played against Nadal on GS yet. And Nadal himself didn't play against Djoko at AOpen or USOpen, where Djoko would've been the favourite...

jaana
01-09-2010, 09:12 PM
well, that was spectacular from both of them :worship:

in the beginning you could really see how Nadal was pumped for this match. to it seemed like he tried to make corrections from previous matches with Kolya. tried to hit deeper, be more agressive. seemed like he really thought about his tactics for today. worked very well. I thought Kolya played pretty well in the first set, minus the awful serving, but all the deciding points went to Nadia.
unfortunately for Rafa, he couldn't keep up with own agressive game for two sets - he really gave all he had in the first, I though. and Kolya's served mproved quite a bit and he tried playing some shorter points.
the tiebreak was a bit WTA-ish :)
in the third set it was cool to see how Davy mostly seemed quietly confident and calm. he had breakpoints on almost every Nadal's serve, I think. so even when got broken it felt like he still had a good chance to win the match.

couldn't see the last two points of the match because something happened to Eurosport's broadcast, sort of froze for a moment. equally annoying was that they didn't show the trophy ceremony, had to quickly go looking for a stream.:o

hope the guys now have enough time to rest up before the AO

http://i48.tinypic.com/2804il2.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/4vn53n.jpg

n8
01-09-2010, 09:30 PM
Nadal has played many different events in the two weeks before the Australian Open and never won one. He has made the final of Auckland (2004), Chennai (2008) and now Doha (2010). Davydenko's finals record is incredible: it now stands at 20-5.

MrChopin
01-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Nadal has played many different events in the two weeks before the Australian Open and never won one. He has made the final of Auckland (2004), Chennai (2008) and now Doha (2010). Davydenko's finals record is incredible: it now stands at 20-5.

Conclusion:
If Davydenko wins, it's for the money.
If Davydenko loses, it's for the money.

rofe
01-09-2010, 09:37 PM
Conclusion:
If Davydenko wins, it's for the money.
If Davydenko loses, it's for the money.

Interesting how Davy is vilified for playing for money as if it is the worst that an athlete could do. Playing exhibitions is way worse in that department.

bad gambler
01-09-2010, 09:49 PM
Amazing to think that of the two Davydenko was so much more clutch :lol:

Bizarro world

Bilbo
01-09-2010, 09:51 PM
Amazing to think that of the two Davydenko was so much more clutch :lol:

Bizarro world

some people do a lot for a golden hawk and a high entrance fee. in dubai i expect davydenko to play his best too.

Clay Death
01-09-2010, 09:57 PM
Amazing to think that of the two Davydenko was so much more clutch :lol:

Bizarro world

that is pretty much it. this makes 3 straight finals that the clay monster has lost to him.

you have match points on fast hard courts and you are serving. and your name is nadal. you dont let that opportunity get away. it can come back to haunt you and it did.

bottom line: davy stole one and nadal let him.

credit to davy for hanging in there long enough for nadal to start choking. nadal was hitting the ball well enough and moving well enough to take this in straight sets. he just didnt get it done.

Montego
01-09-2010, 09:57 PM
some people do a lot for a golden hawk and a high entrance fee. in dubai i expect davydenko to play his best too.

A joke repeated once or twice is funny, repeated for the kazilionth time is annoying and irritating :rolleyes:

rubbERR
01-09-2010, 10:07 PM
new davydenko strikes again, wta serving and still he did it again :-o scary

abraxas21
01-09-2010, 10:13 PM
Q: Is this the first time that Nadal loses a match after having Match Points with his own serve?

I really can't remember the last time, if there was one.

leng jai
01-09-2010, 10:14 PM
A joke repeated once or twice is funny, repeated for the kazilionth time is annoying and irritating :rolleyes:

When its Bilbo, not even the first time is funny.

alter ego
01-09-2010, 10:27 PM
couldn't see the last two points of the match because something happened to Eurosport's broadcast, sort of froze for a moment. equally annoying was that they didn't show the trophy ceremony, had to quickly go looking for a stream.:o

hope the guys now have enough time to rest up before the AO

http://i48.tinypic.com/2804il2.jpg

True story, hope somebody will post the highlghts on youtube without the Eurosport slip. It was a cruel and happy moment for those who were cheering for Nikolay. The picture frozed just after Davy hit what would eventually be the winning FH. The next thing we saw was Davy holding his arms up an smiling.


Q: Is this the first time that Nadal loses a match after having Match Points with his own serve?

I really can't remember the last time, if there was one.
Don't know about that but I'm sure this is the first time Nadal wins the 1st set 6-0 and ends up losing the match.

Montego
01-09-2010, 10:33 PM
Don't know about that but I'm sure this is the first time Nadal wins the 1st set 6-0 and ends up losing the match.


2005 Buenos Aires QF

Gaston Gaudio def. Rafael Nadal 0-6 6-0 6-1

alter ego
01-09-2010, 10:36 PM
Ok may I take that back:lol:
That must have been a good.... WTA match.

Eden
01-09-2010, 10:43 PM
credit to davy for hanging in there long enough for nadal to start choking. nadal was hitting the ball well enough and moving well enough to take this in straight sets. he just didnt get it done.

Rafa didn't choked.

Kolya had his chances to win the 2nd set way easier, but he didn't played that well on some crucial points and it would have been a deserved victory for Rafa when he would have won in straight sets as you can't affford it against a player as Rafa not to use your opportunities.

Rafa missed it to go up a double break in the 3rd set, which would have probably been the decision, but Kolya stayed in the match.

Del_Toro
01-09-2010, 11:01 PM
Expected victory from The Baldy Man, although more complicated than I thought.
Now it's official, Kolya owns Nadull famous butt: Kolya have roasted Nadull in 4 of their last 5 matches plus 3 victories on a row over Rafito pretty much says it all.

Corswandt
01-09-2010, 11:01 PM
saved 2 match points on Nadal's serve in the TB, fought back down a break in the 3rd, took everything peak form Rafito threw at him and outclassed him in the end, TOO GOOD this Davy!!!!!

This.

Nadal was pissed.

And this.

Rafito's loss has got to hurt. He played out of his mind right until the very last game of the match, MPs, break up in the 3rd, and still couldn't take out KING KOLYA. Losing a tight match after playing this well is the worst kind of loss - worse than playing shite and getting a beatdown.

Or so I hope.

Bilbo
01-09-2010, 11:05 PM
Rafa missed it to go up a double break in the 3rd set, which would have probably been the decision, but Kolya stayed in the match.

do you know if rafa had bps for a double break?

MrChopin
01-09-2010, 11:06 PM
Interesting how Davy is vilified for playing for money as if it is the worst that an athlete could do. Playing exhibitions is way worse in that department.

Those that complain he plays hard for money are ridiculous. Of course he does, and with every right. Losing early for money in tournaments is a problem.

And I agree on exhos.

Corswandt
01-09-2010, 11:07 PM
Poor Rafito had nothing left in the tank after winning the grueling Abu Dhabi Grand Slam and having a brutal draw here in Doha. :awww:

:lol:

Cyrus_Paice
01-09-2010, 11:07 PM
do you know if rafa had bps for a double break?

He had 2 at 3:1 15:40

sammy01
01-09-2010, 11:09 PM
wow didn't see it but amazing result, what was davy doing in the 1st set :help:

it isn't often nadal loses from mp up

sammy01
01-09-2010, 11:10 PM
is davy the fave for the oz open? that seems so odd, but hes dealt with fed and rafa again this week.

Sunset of Age
01-09-2010, 11:28 PM
do you know if rafa had bps for a double break?

Yep Rafa was up 40-15 on Davydenko's serve at a certain point, after already having broken Davydenko the game before. He failed to do so, and in stead Davydenko broke him back in the subsequent game. Yet another break on Rafa's serve at the end of the set at 5-4* gave Denko the victory.

Topspin Forehand
01-09-2010, 11:30 PM
Yes Davydenko is the favorite.

nsidhan
01-09-2010, 11:34 PM
This.



And this.

Rafito's loss has got to hurt. He played out of his mind right until the very last game of the match, MPs, break up in the 3rd, and still couldn't take out KING KOLYA. Losing a tight match after playing this well is the worst kind of loss - worse than playing shite and getting a beatdown.

Or so I hope.

I think getting a beatdown is worse than losing a tough match. At least this way Rafa knows his game was clicking except for a few pts here/there and he only needs a few adjustments to win next time.

Eden
01-09-2010, 11:37 PM
Some comments from the players after the match:


"After losing the first set 6-0, I thought I had no chance of winning," said the Russian. "In the beginning, he was on top and I had to fight for every point. However, as the match wore on, Rafa lost his concentration and made too many mistakes.

"Really, I wasn't sure of winning till I had three match points. If I can make such a remarkable turnaround after failing completely in the first set that definitely means my confidence is high. I'm happy I could stay focussed at crucial stages."


Nadal tried to look for positives as he prepares for the defence of his Australian Open title later this month.

"I'm happy with the way I performed. I played unbelievable tennis in the first set. That just shows I'm back to my best, maybe, like how I played in 2008. It's a huge morale booster," he said.

"After losing the tiebreaker (10-8), I don't know what went wrong. I lost to one of the best players in the world," Nadal said, adding it was too early to comment on his title prospects at the Australian Open.


Davydenko said beating Nadal and Federer at the Australian Open would be a completely different challenge.

"I can beat them in three sets but in five sets, I don't know. I'm quite used to calling the shots in three sets.

"The climate in Doha suits me better than that in Australia. I'm better off playing in Doha's 18 degrees than the 30 at Melbourne Park, so it will be very challenging," he added.


Source: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/01/09/sports/sports-uk-tennis-men-qatar.html

Certinfy
01-09-2010, 11:38 PM
Loved this match :)

Action Jackson
01-09-2010, 11:46 PM
Time for PMK to step up in the Slams.

swisht4u
01-09-2010, 11:47 PM
wow didn't see it but amazing result, what was davy doing in the 1st set :help:

it isn't often nadal loses from mp up

Nadal didn't play bad at all, he's doing good considering how he was playing at the end of last year.

Davy played some brilliant shots, in the area of Fed past.
Davy was under some intense pressure at times, the mental part of his game I didn't expect, pretty much rock solid.

Edomaster
01-09-2010, 11:50 PM
Retire from tennis Nadal , you pathetic piece of shit

Losing to a doper slamless clown is embarrasing enough

Nicolai has crushed you once again. :D


This shit called Davydenko has the same titles as a legend like Moya

Mug sport

You are the MUG, man. ;)

NYCtennisfan
01-09-2010, 11:55 PM
Only the third time in his career that Nadal has lost while winning more points overall. He lost previously to JMDP and Simon while winning more points. It's hard to actually do this when you don't have a big serve to win you a lot of games at love or 15. On top of that, Nadal doesn't usually let go once he's gotten a hold of the match.

Federer has gone on to lose 17 or 18 times while winning more points, most of any in the TMS era. Goran and Richard Krajicek are also up there.

abraxas21
01-10-2010, 12:00 AM
Only the third time in his career that Nadal has lost while winning more points overall. He lost previously to JMDP and Simon while winning more points. It's hard to actually do this when you don't have a big serve to win you a lot of games at love or 15. On top of that, Nadal doesn't usually let go once he's gotten a hold of the match.

Federer has gone on to lose 17 or 18 times while winning more points, most of any in the TMS era. Goran and Richard Krajicek are also up there.

that's interesting. do you have all the stats?

malisha
01-10-2010, 12:12 AM
this result is good for this forum :yeah:

Rafa is on a good way to be at full shape soon...this loss wont effect him as much as some of his "fans" think
Donkey found his serve at 1:3 15:40 ....two great serves out wide saved him

deserved one

-Valhalla-
01-10-2010, 12:18 AM
This was a great match with all it's momentum shifts and ebbs and flows and I actually see this loss as a positive for Nadal heading into the AO. When he watches the tape, he'll see that he's got to play aggressive tennis throughout and that short balls will be returned with heavy interest [esp. against the likes of a Delpo]. In the 2nd and 3rd sets, his forehand came up way too short and Denko punished him with clean winners off both sides. [Cue broken record] ... He's got to flatten out, and if he's spinning it back, there better be TREMENDOUS depth.

Regarding Denko, he did a helluva job today and my respect for him continues to grow. But regarding his chances at the AO, they remain slim and none and slim just left town. Best of five is a different animal altogether and I don't think he can handle the accumulation of punishment from the big boys over two weeks, best of five, and in sweltering heat. As they say in boxing, "A good big man will always beat a good little man." In any case, best of luck Davy, down under.

This AO should be a doozy and let's hope for a Naderer redux 2010 :drink: :drink: