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Ri-born Richard: closing the door on 2009 and awaiting a better 2010 (with no ban)

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Vlad1980
10-02-2009, 01:24 PM
2-2 in second set now, but he is playing better tennis. At least he is going for it, even on forehand. He was trying to actually break Verdasco, instead of waiting for him to break himself.
Holds for 3-2. Stayed ON the baseline and hit early. Nice. He is getting the plot now.

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:26 PM
I think there is a fight within for him whether to play the style he likes which is work the point around, something he has done when he played Crivoi and was comfortable on court, or play really aggressive tennis which is necessary to beat Fernando or to win anything big really.

yes he's between the two on this fall, that's nearly the end of his season. He has nothing to lose there. I think the real "thinking work" will take place during the off season with his new coach.
It will be the time to chose really what kind of play he has to chose to be back with the best.
It is certainly not the kind of play he played against crivoi for sure.

orangehat
10-02-2009, 01:30 PM
Trying to watch richie and chiudi at the same time... so ambivalent feelings switching between the two :lol:

Davodus
10-02-2009, 01:32 PM
Really really bad game then

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:33 PM
another very bad game

Puschkin
10-02-2009, 01:33 PM
what happened? A lose game?

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:36 PM
yes broken at love, 3-4*

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:37 PM
*3-5

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:40 PM
he held.

Vlad1980
10-02-2009, 01:40 PM
I want to see the day when Richard would start playing relaxed and aggressive from baseline like he does now in second set day in and day out. Yes, he played one crappy game on serve, but that's ok because overall pattern is good.

Davodus
10-02-2009, 01:45 PM
:ras:

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:46 PM
GSM verdasco 7-5 6-4

richard finishing in another awful sliced backhand return but well not expecting him to win there
so much things to fix and work. Good tournament after Metz.
What's his next tournament?I ve noticed he touched his right shoulder, he needs some rest imo...

whattheheck
10-02-2009, 01:46 PM
Sad that he lost, but have to look at the bright side. He's improving little by little.

Puschkin
10-02-2009, 01:48 PM
I want to see the day when Richard would start playing relaxed and aggressive from baseline like he does now in second set day in and day out. Yes, he played one crappy game on serve, but that's ok because overall pattern is good.

Don't desperate my friend, that day is near. :) Maybe already in Tokio, a tourney where he traditionally does well and were much more is at stake.

When he went for that crazy schedule in autumn, he must have known that there won't be much rest.

lisaplenske
10-02-2009, 01:59 PM
a little "scan" of the match

http://nsm02.casimages.com/img/2009/10/02//091002040122809654564427.jpg (http://www.casimages.com)

you can see from these stats what went bad for him today. The serve,the return and break point conversion.
I think he didnt play good on those key points. A pity cause he had "nothing to lose" on that match.

Schu
10-02-2009, 01:59 PM
I ve noticed he touched his right shoulder, he needs some rest imo...

I saw that too. Maybe after a 26 ace day yesterday it needs a rest. His serve was not the same as yesterday (but neither was his opponent). HOpe his ambitious fall schedule doesn't get him back on the injured list.

Same old stuff to work on(ie. position, service return and concentration)but IMO he seems to be fighting more and not giving up even after a bad game - and he had a few of those today.

Never expected him to win today but Verdasco was not at his best and Richie actually had some chances if he had been a bit sharper.

Is Toyko next? he usually does well there. Actually smart of him to loose, he can get a bit more rest and be ready for a bigger tournament.

amandita
10-02-2009, 02:01 PM
Hi, everyone! long time without posting here...
honestly i admire richard, his game... but i imagined verdasco would win. This match reminds me the match that happenned at Barcelona. Richard losing great opportunities and verdasco just playing the enough.

oranges
10-02-2009, 03:03 PM
First of all, solid comeback from Richie so far :yeah:
From what I've seen of today's match, he tended to play too defensive for my taste. He has no business playing miles behind the baseline against anyone and against Verdasco it's not a wise strategy anyway. Other than that, keep it going. Upwards and onwards. Busy schedule planned to leave room both for difficult draws and allow enough matches to hit full form, hopefully for Paris :angel:

Gretchen.
10-02-2009, 04:34 PM
Well after staying up the whole night the night before to watch him I needed sleep so couldn't get up for this one :lol: But sounds like a match that wasn't really worth seeing as much as the previous one.Seeing from reading all the posts, definitely his return needs lots of work! He should really be able to step in a bit more especially on the backhand side he really has the ability to hurt most servers with it.Then of course the 50000 miles behind the baseline isn't good either, just letting his opponent push him around on court.

I hope nothing is wrong with his shoulder again :awww: Did he look any bit concerned about it or was it just like a slight touch and maybe it is cause he is tired? :confused:

Anyways rest up Richard and bring some good tennis to Tokyo. Btw am I the only one worried about him playing Del Po again you know now with um Del Po being kind of like Pim Pim just trashing every ball as hard as he can :scared: Cause I doubt he will go away like Pim Pim did but still with Muzza out should have at least a 50-50 chance for a decent draw.

Vlad1980
10-02-2009, 04:59 PM
Don't desperate my friend, that day is near. :) Maybe already in Tokio, a tourney where he traditionally does well and were much more is at stake.

When he went for that crazy schedule in autumn, he must have known that there won't be much rest.


It is true that he plays well in Tokyo in general and I thought last year it was his best tournament. This time however, he only has 2-3 days to adapt to new surface, outdoors, new conditions, jet lag. Hope he has relatively easy first round.

In general, I am looking for him to find new coach asap. Deblicker, maybe a good babysitter, moral support and cheerleader (he really is trying to cheer him up during matches), he is obviously is not doing anything to improve Richard's game. Richard is capable of playing higher level tennis overall and be more threat to top 10 than he is now. Very often that when he plays a top player now be it Ferrer, Nalbandian, Verdasco, Nadal, etc it looks that the match is really not in his hands. Today, in the first set, I don't think he even hit a winner from ground until 5-5 or something like that. Was all defense. I hope new coach talks to him and really asks him what he wants to achieve in this game. If he wants to be just top 40 player, make decent living he can probably continue playing the way he has been playing last couple years until game will completely pass him by in few years. But if he wants to achieve something noteworthy, he needs to start taking risks and become brave on court. I don't care if he loses matches 1-6, 2-6 playing this fashion for half a year, but at least he will be there with a chance against almost anyone. I am convinced Deblicker is not able to push him hard enough to improve. He needs to go asap.

Getta
10-02-2009, 05:06 PM
In general, I am looking for him to find new coach asap. Deblicker, maybe a good babysitter, moral support and cheerleader ...

a bit harsh to some degree but true, regretfully.

PinkFeatherBoa
10-02-2009, 05:37 PM
Having not seen either of the last 2 matches, I really appreciate everyone's feedback here...and seems by what you lot are saying, that it's back to far too much defensive play today and the return of serve is still bad. Definitely a lot more work to come, then but genreally it's going OK so far, at least he's beating teh players he's expected to beat now. I'd also much rather this earlyish loss here, so he has more time to recover and play well in Tokyo, which has been a good tournament for him.

Keep at it Richard and please keep working hard. More matches, more matches, more matches.

reggie1
10-02-2009, 06:22 PM
Yes, thanks everyone as I haven't seen any of the matches either. :wavey:

Schu
10-02-2009, 07:46 PM
he needs to start taking risks and become brave on court. I don't care if he loses matches 1-6, 2-6 playing this fashion for half a year, but at least he will be there with a chance against almost anyone.

SOmetimes I just what to slap him in the face and say HIT THE DAMN BALL! OOOPS - I said I wasn't going to complain and I'm not really :rolleyes: it's just that if ever there was a time for him to "let it rip" it's now when he's hungry to win, has not been practicing bad habits cuz he hasn't been playing and no one expects much from him.

All I know if I could ever hit just ONE of the aggressive shots he is capable of hitting I'd never play a passive point again - it's got to be SO MUCH more fun to play his aggressive game than his passive game.

So Richie - let it rip in tokyo and don't look back.

Cloudygirl
10-02-2009, 08:37 PM
He really isn't doing too badly. it's slow but steady I guess. Semis then Quarters is a lot better than I thought he would be doing. 'bout time he started challenging the top 10 properly and being really competitive in those matches. He is more than capable.

reggie1
10-02-2009, 08:58 PM
On a positive, I'm not seeing much different results wise to what he was achieving pre ban, he is doing better than I expected of him.

Cloudygirl
10-02-2009, 09:07 PM
I think he is doing very well for someone who has the sword of damocles still hanging over them and yep Deblicker is prob not right for him long term but in the short term he is doing a fab job at confidence building and being there for him and there are improvements.

Puschkin
10-03-2009, 10:51 AM
I think he is doing very well for someone who has the sword of damocles still hanging over them and yep Deblicker is prob not right for him long term but in the short term he is doing a fab job at confidence building and being there for him and there are improvements.
I totally agree. And I am not sure "pre-ban"-Richard would have outlasted Johansson.

It is true that he plays well in Tokyo in general and I thought last year it was his best tournament. This time however, he only has 2-3 days to adapt to new surface, outdoors, new conditions, jet lag.
That was much worse between Metz and Kuala Lumpur, 6 hours time difference, but only one hour between Kuala Lumpur and Tokio.

:secret: And yes: I am sticking my head out, I think he will do very well in Tokyo. Allez, Richard.

ImmzB
10-03-2009, 09:42 PM
Gasquet plays P.Petzschner in the 1st Round and could play Tsonga in the 2nd Round.

Draw: http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2009/329/mds.pdf

ImmzB
10-03-2009, 09:51 PM
Come on Gasquet!!

Gasquetno.1
10-04-2009, 08:30 PM
Richard isn't on the OOP for tomorrow, so he must be playing Tuesday :)

Puschkin
10-05-2009, 11:19 AM
Richard isn't on the OOP for tomorrow, so he must be playing Tuesday :)
Not necessarily. ;) He isn't on the OOP for tomorrow either. So it will be Wednesday.

case
10-05-2009, 12:25 PM
Not necessarily. ;) He isn't on the OOP for tomorrow either. So it will be Wednesday.

seems like he is about the only one playing r1 tomorrow. always scares me when this happens . my first thought is i hope he didnt withdraw.

Tess Gray
10-05-2009, 01:49 PM
Nice to see you back Amira:wavey:

SOmetimes I just what to slap him in the face and say HIT THE DAMN BALL! OOOPS - I said I wasn't going to complain and I'm not really :rolleyes: it's just that if ever there was a time for him to "let it rip" it's now when he's hungry to win, has not been practicing bad habits cuz he hasn't been playing and no one expects much from him.

All I know if I could ever hit just ONE of the aggressive shots he is capable of hitting I'd never play a passive point again - it's got to be SO MUCH more fun to play his aggressive game than his passive game.

So Richie - let it rip in tokyo and don't look back.

Are you secretly promoting the Bryan Bros new single?:p

:secret: And yes: I am sticking my head out, I think he will do very well in Tokyo. Allez, Richard.

Good attitude;) I hope you're right. I think he is capable of beating Jo because Jo hasn't been playing very well lately.

Allez:yeah:

Schu
10-05-2009, 03:45 PM
seems like he is about the only one playing r1 tomorrow. always scares me when this happens . my first thought is i hope he didnt withdraw.

Actually I think there are still few more R1 matches left to play but that (withdrawal) was my first thought too :tape: when he wasn't on OOP for TUesday either.

Puschkin
10-05-2009, 04:45 PM
Actually I think there are still few more R1 matches left to play but that (withdrawal) was my first thought too :tape: when he wasn't on OOP for TUesday either.
Three first round matches left, if I counted correctly, most important, Tsonga, too. That means equal condidtions for the second round match. You see: neither withdrawal nor a defeat against Petzschner cross my mind. ;)

icecastle
10-05-2009, 05:24 PM
Three first round matches left, if I counted correctly, most important, Tsonga, too. That means equal condidtions for the second round match. You see: neither withdrawal nor a defeat against Petzschner cross my mind. ;)

:yeah:

Puschkin
10-06-2009, 10:07 AM
Has anyone seen the OOP for tomorrow? Eight singles scheduled for CC, :eek: Richard is number 5. Obviously they could not play any matches without the roof today, so tomorrow will be a long day.

marina36
10-06-2009, 12:41 PM
Has anyone seen the OOP for tomorrow? Eight singles scheduled for CC, :eek: Richard is number 5. Obviously they could not play any matches without the roof today, so tomorrow will be a long day.

Where did you find the order of play? I can't find it in the official website...

Puschkin
10-06-2009, 12:59 PM
Where did you find the order of play? I can't find it in the official website...
The official site from Tokio is useless. I use the ATP-site instead.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/Tournament-Draws.aspx

*Martolina*
10-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Richie will play the fifth match in c.c.

Bellucci vs. Youzhny
Beck vs. Schuettler
Stepanek vs. Gulbis
Monaco vs. Garcia-Lopez
GASQUET vs. Petzschner
Zverev vs. Tsonga
Wawrinka vs. Greul
Chiudinelli vs. Monfils

if we calculate more or less 2 hours for each match, he should play more or less when here in Italy will be 7 a.m. Where can i find a link to watch the match tomorrow?

lisaplenske
10-06-2009, 01:46 PM
Nice to see you back Amira:wavey:




:wavey: tess always nice as usual;)

so richard can play jo in tokyo,hopefully it will be a good match

lisaplenske
10-06-2009, 01:57 PM
It is true that he plays well in Tokyo in general and I thought last year it was his best tournament. This time however, he only has 2-3 days to adapt to new surface, outdoors, new conditions, jet lag. Hope he has relatively easy first round.

In general, I am looking for him to find new coach asap. Deblicker, maybe a good babysitter, moral support and cheerleader (he really is trying to cheer him up during matches), he is obviously is not doing anything to improve Richard's game. Richard is capable of playing higher level tennis overall and be more threat to top 10 than he is now. Very often that when he plays a top player now be it Ferrer, Nalbandian, Verdasco, Nadal, etc it looks that the match is really not in his hands. Today, in the first set, I don't think he even hit a winner from ground until 5-5 or something like that. Was all defense. I hope new coach talks to him and really asks him what he wants to achieve in this game. If he wants to be just top 40 player, make decent living he can probably continue playing the way he has been playing last couple years until game will completely pass him by in few years. But if he wants to achieve something noteworthy, he needs to start taking risks and become brave on court. I don't care if he loses matches 1-6, 2-6 playing this fashion for half a year, but at least he will be there with a chance against almost anyone. I am convinced Deblicker is not able to push him hard enough to improve. He needs to go asap.

+100000

couldnt agree more about that. Seing playing the way he played in that match against verdasco was quite depressing. Debliker is not the man who will make his game change. He needs another coach, someone outside of the french tennis world.
I read that he's looking for a foreigner coach so lets hope he'll get the right one, the one that will push him hard to the offensive tennis he's able to produce and grew up with.
He started playing tennis by having sampras as a role model, not chang or berasatagui LOL so dont get his the logic for him to play that defensive tennis.
For me that's not real richard there,the way he should be playing.

Puschkin
10-06-2009, 02:09 PM
if we calculate more or less 2 hours for each match, he should play more or less when here in Italy will be 7 a.m. Where can i find a link to watch the match tomorrow?

I am afraid, something is wrong in your calculation, Tokio is 7 hours ahead of us. Matches start at 10.00 am, i.e. 3.00 in Europe.if you take two hours per match, Richard will play around 11.00 am.

*Martolina*
10-06-2009, 03:21 PM
I am afraid, something is wrong in your calculation, Tokio is 7 hours ahead of us. Matches start at 10.00 am, i.e. 3.00 in Europe.if you take two hours per match, Richard will play around 11.00 am.

mmmmmmmm
yes, 12 a.m. because in Italy we're +1 GTM
I didn't calculate the solar hour and i made confusion..:mad:

Gretchen.
10-06-2009, 04:43 PM
Del Po is out :aplot:

The draw could clear up if things keep going like this!

And I might have to skip uni tomorrow to watch his first match, but are there actually any streams?

~*BGT*~
10-06-2009, 08:50 PM
I can't hide the fact that I am very happy Del Pony will not be in the final. :D

acd692
10-06-2009, 09:25 PM
delpo and andy:sad: well at least i have a reason to watch this tournaments and it's all because of richie:)

mieko
10-07-2009, 12:00 AM
Because of typhoon, the hole week of Rakuten Open its seems to rain. And I cannot see richie practing outside, cannot take pictures of richie... Rain breaks my heart. Now I am off to richie's first round game.

Cloudygirl
10-07-2009, 12:08 AM
he won't be on for hours will he?

icecastle
10-07-2009, 01:58 AM
i think i found one site, but im still not sure http://www.livescorehunter.com/Livescores/Livescore-Tennis.html

icecastle
10-07-2009, 02:32 AM
youzny vs belluci, http://www.justin.tv/zura987/popout, i hope this will also be the link for Richie's match

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 08:18 AM
Anybody here or am I the only one up at ridiculous hours :p

Anyways Richie up a break 4-1.

Puschkin
10-07-2009, 08:26 AM
Anyone watching? I cannot. :o

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Yes I am up at four in the morning for this :rolls:

But that stream that icecastle gave up there works (Thank You ;))

Why can't you watch?

Edit-5-2 :banana:

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 08:36 AM
First set Richard 6-3 :D

Puschkin
10-07-2009, 08:38 AM
How is the match?

MacArthur
10-07-2009, 08:43 AM
http://www.atdhe.net/7635/watch-atp-tokyo

This a stream if you want to follow it, Puschkin. Richard is playing good, Petzschner is terrible, to answer your question. Overall the match is mediocre, full of UEs.

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 08:44 AM
It's going pretty good so far though Petzschner isn't really putting up much of a fight.Some really nice volleys from Richard to save either break points or to set up break points, forehand isn't that bad and so far it's pretty solid from him ;).Nothing exciting though.

Puschkin
10-07-2009, 08:45 AM
It's going pretty good so far though Petzschner isn't really putting up much of a fight.Some really nice volleys from Richard to save either break points or to set up break points, forehand isn't that bad and so far it's pretty solid from him ;).Nothing exciting though.
thanks. :D

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 08:57 AM
:speakles:

Stunning backhand.

And he is starting to look a bit annoyed with Petzschner :lol:

Edit- The stream died :ras: and all the websites were using the same one :(

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 09:09 AM
Richard wins 6-3 6-2 :D but all the streams have died so I guess nobody saw the end of the match?

icecastle
10-07-2009, 10:20 AM
oh, i missed it. just woke up. anyway, im glad he won! thanks for the updates.

Davodus
10-07-2009, 11:10 AM
Nice win :yeah:

Schu
10-07-2009, 12:57 PM
Richard wins 6-3 6-2 :D but all the streams have died so I guess nobody saw the end of the match?

Thanks for the report - I thought about getting up at 4 am but just couldn't. Glad to see he won and rather easily. Looks like he must have stayed focused for two sets in a row, that's progress. How many times has he won a set easily and then ended up in a close match,

Next round is a completely different story - I just might have to stay up all night for that one.

~*BGT*~
10-07-2009, 02:23 PM
Schu, wouldn't it wonderful if his next match was first on? Then it would be on at about 8 or 9 PM over here :awww:

oranges
10-07-2009, 02:27 PM
Not for Europeans. 5-6 AM :sobbing: , too late to stay up, too early to get up for.

Davodus
10-07-2009, 02:29 PM
For once, any time is fine with me :lol:

reggie1
10-07-2009, 02:53 PM
Another win for him and Jurgen can be a difficult oponent so I think this is a good solid result to build on.

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 07:09 PM
Schu, wouldn't it wonderful if his next match was first on? Then it would be on at about 8 or 9 PM over here :awww:

Of course they instead put him fourth on center court :ras: So should be around 3-4 in the morning for us in the good ol US of A.

Dini
10-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Jurgen will be tough, but I've been really convinced by what Richie has to offer lately. :dance: I think the scheduling does not please anyone but those who live in Tokyo or far east Asia. :sobbing:

Allleeeeeezzzz! :bounce:

Cloudygirl
10-07-2009, 07:15 PM
what time UK time ish will it be on. I'm guessing I will be at work. I would stay up if it was 5-6am but nope :(

Gretchen.
10-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Why do people keep mentioning Jurgen :scratch: He's playing Jo Willie no? :lol:

I think it should be around 8 or 9ish in the morning for you Tori, really depends on how fast or slow the matches before them finish but somewhere there.

Dini
10-07-2009, 07:27 PM
I haven't had a look at the draw, just assumed Vicky was right. :lol:

If it's Jo then I'm not so confident anymore. :scared:

Schu
10-07-2009, 07:56 PM
Of course they instead put him fourth on center court :ras: So should be around 3-4 in the morning for us in the good ol US of A.

Couldn't get worse timing. I probably can't stay awake that long and once I go to sleep it is really tough for me to wake up at 3-4 am. I might try but if not - I'll be dreaming of a Richie victory. Maybe all the matches before his will be 2 bagel sets or 3 TB sets, either way I could see at least some of it.

Bonne Chance Richie!!

Cloudygirl
10-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Why do people keep mentioning Jurgen :scratch: He's playing Jo Willie no? :lol:

I think it should be around 8 or 9ish in the morning for you Tori, really depends on how fast or slow the matches before them finish but somewhere there.

I will be in the car driving to work :(


I haven't had a look at the draw, just assumed Vicky was right. :lol:

If it's Jo then I'm not so confident anymore. :scared:

And Dini he is def playing Jo.

Schu
10-08-2009, 03:54 AM
I just realized that tennistv.com is showing Tokoyo starting today/night which means Richie/tsonga will be on a high quality stream which doesn't freeze every other minute!

I just might have to go to bed right now and get up in about 3 1/2 hours or stay up - things are moving pretty fast right now. Fabrice and Hewitt just started second set, and only one more match after that. Fab won 1st set (Yeah!!), please don't split Fabrice

Schu
10-08-2009, 04:43 AM
:smash::smash: Fabrice - just lost second set- means 45 minutes longer till Richie's match. They just showed Richie in the stands watching Fab, he looked really good and was just yacking away with the guy next to him.

Lemon Custard
10-08-2009, 04:46 AM
So how long do you reckon to go to wait?

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 04:51 AM
:smash::smash: Fabrice - just lost second set- means 45 minutes longer till Richie's match. They just showed Richie in the stands watching Fab, he looked really good and was just yacking away with the guy next to him.
:devil: I missed that, tough I am watching Fabrice/Hewitt. I need a quick end to this and an even quicker next match to see something of Richard. Probably he'll start playing when I'll have to leave.

It seems to be hot there, players are sweating crazily.

Gasquetno.1
10-08-2009, 05:11 AM
My stream keeps freezing :(

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 05:27 AM
They are opening roof... it will take another 15-20 min. I hope it will favor Richard as it will be more windy.

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 05:28 AM
They are opening roof... it will take another 15-20 min.
Which seals my fate. No Richard for me today.:devil:

Schu
10-08-2009, 05:40 AM
Which seals my fate. No Richard for me today.:devil:

Seals my fate too, unless it's close to a double bagel, I doubt my eyes will stay open. Although Nadal- Blake is on the other tennistv stream soon i THINK, so maybe I'll be entertained by that.

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 07:51 AM
Richard is on court.

icecastle
10-08-2009, 07:55 AM
1-1

Davodus
10-08-2009, 07:55 AM
Good save in the first game from 15-40

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 07:57 AM
I can't watch from work. Any comment is appreciated.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 07:59 AM
I can't watch either :sobbing: I really want to :(

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:01 AM
good forehand there!

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 08:02 AM
Richard looks confident in Tokyo. He may win this or may lose this match, but the way he is hitting the ball is much better than in previous couple events. He is hitting his forehand really hard. This is how I like to see him play all the time.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:12 AM
Damn :( chance there with 0-30, but Tsonga hit 2 aces after that

4-4..

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:13 AM
i think this will lead to a TB

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:16 AM
Richard winning 82% of 2nd serve points so far :eek: that's a good stat

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 08:17 AM
Wind is really blowing hard at times.

Dini
10-08-2009, 08:18 AM
Now would be a good time to break. :dance:

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:21 AM
6-4!

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 08:21 AM
Solid tennis from Richard in first set. Wind helped him out in the end. Jo is struggling with it a lot more and missing more now.

6-4.

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:22 AM
1st serve 82%, 2nd serve 80% way to go Richie!

Dini
10-08-2009, 08:25 AM
Richivo Gasqarlovic. :angel:

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:33 AM
signature backhand!

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:33 AM
My computer decided to commit suicide at 5-4, so glad to come back and see he took the first :)

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:36 AM
2 BPs missed this game :o

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:40 AM
Bad game :(

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:40 AM
jo leads 3-2 2nd set

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 08:41 AM
Misses his chance to break and plays sloppy game to get broken with 3 easy forehand errors. :(

Schu
10-08-2009, 08:44 AM
CRAP! I woke up at the beginning of the second set. Richie!!! lost your focus and let Tsonga who thrives on momemtum back in. Break him back right here.

I missed the whole first set but what I've seen of the second, if Tsonga didn't have a serve he'd be dead, the rest of his game looks pretty poor, at least up until Richie gave him a present. Come on Richie!

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:47 AM
Should have broken again then :o

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 08:48 AM
CRAP! I woke up at the beginning of the second set. Richie!!! lost your focus and let Tsonga who thrives on momemtum back in.
Maybe you should go to bed again. :p

Schu
10-08-2009, 08:48 AM
Hang in there Richie - you are giving him trouble on his service game and one of these games he's not gaonna luck out with those damn lets...

I looks really windy.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:49 AM
oh god :o huge mental lapse
regroup for the third

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:50 AM
jo with a double break 5-2 :sobbing:

Schu
10-08-2009, 08:51 AM
Maybe you should go to bed again. :p

After that second awful service game - Yup. WTF Richie!! Only problem is now I won't be able to sleep.

O.K. the commentators are buggin me - JO Wilfred Tsonga whose turned this match onit's head - NOOOO, how about Gasquet who just took a vacation!

New set, screw your head back on Richie

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:53 AM
Hopefully he regroups now and starts serving properly again

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:54 AM
common on Richie, you can do this! Take back the third set! Allez!

icecastle
10-08-2009, 08:57 AM
he's attacking the net. nice Richie!

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 08:58 AM
RIchie's game seems to fall apart at the moment. He even misses overheads..

Davodus
10-08-2009, 08:58 AM
Pfffff :o DF

:ras:

simplet
10-08-2009, 08:58 AM
Awful, awful match. I've not seen all of it, but what I've seen is really bad. I don't even care who wins this match but I hoped for something nice to watch at least. I guess it's the wind.

Schu
10-08-2009, 09:00 AM
HUMM, think it's back to bed for me. Richie, you can still do it! but in case you loose the next 5 games in a row I'm not missing my sleep...

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:02 AM
Whats that like 7 games in a row?

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 09:03 AM
ok, finally a hold. :o And now attack!

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:04 AM
finally a game :o

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:09 AM
Ace on BP :rolleyes:

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:12 AM
Another ace on BP...this time on 2nd serve :o

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 09:17 AM
Richard looks absolutely tortured. This is tough match mentally for him. I feel like gamewise he has played as well or better than Tsonga, but he just couldn't take his chances in second set and now in the third. He also feels like he should be winning this match. Let's see how tough mentally he is for the rest of the match, because he still has chances.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:20 AM
I hope he hasn't lost his only chances in this set to break, because that was an easy hold for Tsonga then :o

Schu
10-08-2009, 09:21 AM
Richard looks absolutely tortured. This is tough match mentally for him. I feel like gamewise he has played as well or better than Tsonga, but he just couldn't take his chances in second set and now in the third. He also feels like he should be winning this match. Let's see how tough mentally he is for the rest of the match, because he still has chances.

totally agree. Richie is constructing the points well, Tsonga is pretty much just hitting service winners but that's enough if Richie looses focus - which he has. Perfect example of whiy I like Richie's game SOOO much better, too bad it doesn't produce the same results.

Yeah I lied - couldn't go to sleep. Come on Richie, just hang in.

EDIT- O.K. NOW I'm going to sleep - DAMN that was torture.

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 09:21 AM
stop with these DF, Rich! Don't give Tsonga the match as a present, let him earn it, if he can.

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Very disappointing end. Richard's serve fell apart in second set and the fact that Tsonga's hitting spots well, Richard just couldn't hang in there mentally.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:22 AM
well it is over now :rolleyes: terrible game

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 09:25 AM
Yeah I lied - couldn't go to sleep.
It is all your fault.;) He played well while you slept. Look what is happening now. I was convinced that Richard would beat Tsonga.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 09:26 AM
:ras: yuck

Vlad1980
10-08-2009, 09:31 AM
I think in parts of the match, Richard played better than in all of this wins last two weeks. If anything he lost on his terms, meaning by his own crappy play last two sets, not by an opponent who simply outhit him. In a way it is better. Richard took charge for some of those points.

icecastle
10-08-2009, 09:37 AM
I think in parts of the match, Richard played better than in all of this wins last two weeks. If anything he lost on his terms, meaning by his own crappy play last two sets, not by an opponent who simply outhit him. In a way it is better. Richard took charge for some of those points.

:yeah: well said. couldnt agree with you more.

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 09:39 AM
I admit my frustration. :devil: I can't stand Tsonga's tennis, and it gives me fits that this ball-basher beats Richard's creative tennis.

Gretchen.
10-08-2009, 12:00 PM
I couldn't get up for this one :sobbing:

Though sounds like it wasn't really worth getting up for :o Thanks for all your comments guys! Good to know that he did play well here and there and there are signs of hope that his form isn't declining even more ;)

Is he for sure going to Shanghai next week?

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 12:09 PM
Though sounds like it wasn't really worth getting up for
I think it would have been. Vlad1980 wrote it was his best match since his return and he is known to be rather critical of Richard.

It seems that Richard had the match on his raquet, could not convert his bps in the 2nd set and then lost the plot completely. I can imagine his after-match "converstation" with Eric to be rather harsh.

Gretchen.
10-08-2009, 12:13 PM
True I did see that and it's nice knowing that he is getting confident and playing like he should but still a loss at 4 in the morning isn't that well to take :p ;)

Kournikovaism
10-08-2009, 01:42 PM
a loss at 4 in the morning isn't that well to take :p ;)

I know I was so tired and stayed up to watch Ana vs Maria, Aussie Open final and actually cried when Ana lost. I was pissed I had stayed up and she playing that stupid drop shot:mad:

I dont stay up for matches anymore.

Schu
10-08-2009, 01:45 PM
I admit my frustration. :devil: I can't stand Tsonga's tennis, and it gives me fits that this ball-basher beats Richard's creative tennis.

Exactly! That's what is most frustrating (that and the damn dance Tsonga does, even after he plays a crappy match against a "friend").

But agree with Vlad - I only saw the last two sets and even in those I saw flashes of excellent play and well constructed points. Mentally Richard got too frustrated when he couldn't convert his chances and his whole attitude changed in a few games.

Moving on...

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 01:51 PM
Exactly! That's what is most frustrating (that and the damn dance Tsonga does, even after he plays a crappy match against a "friend").
I count on Ernests to "dance" tomorrow. :devil: He was already close last week. Tomorrow JWT is ripe.

Moving on...
:yeah: And Richard, too. It was frustrating, but let's get over it.

Davodus
10-08-2009, 02:02 PM
I know I was so tired and stayed up to watch Ana vs Maria, Aussie Open final and actually cried when Ana lost. I was pissed I had stayed up and she playing that stupid drop shot:mad:

I dont stay up for matches anymore.

:sobbing:

Gasquetno.1
10-08-2009, 03:00 PM
I caught a bit of the match at the beginning of the 3rd, he looked really really annoyed and was looking up at, i guess Deblicker with a 'what can i do' look on his face :sad: was he like this for most of the last 2 sets?

ImmzB
10-08-2009, 03:07 PM
Richie...

Started well...had BP in the 2nd Set, but didnt convert.

Now Shanghai... GOOD LUCK!

COME ON GASQUET!!

icecastle
10-08-2009, 03:09 PM
I caught a bit of the match at the beginning of the 3rd, he looked really really annoyed and was looking up at, i guess Deblicker with a 'what can i do' look on his face :sad: was he like this for most of the last 2 sets?

He sure looked frustrated at that scene but he wasn't like that for most of the match. during the first set he owned the game and you can see that his confidence is slowly building up. but as he got broken during the second set, he seemed to lose his focus. during the third, he was trying to put up a match and has several well-constructed points but unfortunately wasn't able to convert breakpoints.

Cloudygirl
10-08-2009, 07:13 PM
So I didn't see the match just the stats and in the first set Richard's serve looks to have been great. Was Tsonga crap or did Richie start great and then just lose focus?

Kournikovaism
10-08-2009, 07:15 PM
I caught a bit of the match at the beginning of the 3rd, he looked really really annoyed and was looking up at, i guess Deblicker with a 'what can i do' look on his face :sad: was he like this for most of the last 2 sets?

That look means the match is over:sad:. Unless the opponent chokes.

Truc
10-08-2009, 07:27 PM
There was an article about Richard today in L'Equipe:
Il freine, lui non plus

Gasquet se dit encore « convalescent », mais Tsonga le trouve déjà très compétitif. Ça tombe bien, ils s’affrontent aujourd’hui.

LES CONFÉRENCES DE PRESSE à Tokyo, c’est Lost in Translation sans Scarlett Johansson. Vous n’êtes pas japonais, vous êtes plutôt Bill Murray et vous suivez comme vous pouvez. Il y a un « speakrin » debout devant un micro qui résume le match du joueur venu causer. Il y a aussi la traductrice qui va et vient de l’anglais au japonais. C’est toujours bizarre d’entendre un silence de mort quand la blague est dite puis, deux minutes après, des rires quand la traduction a opéré. Et, à la fin, tous les journalistes applaudissent le joueur qui s’en va. Mais les conférences de presse à Tokyo, c’est aussi comme partout ailleurs. Quand Richard Gasquet est au pupitre, il y a toujours la question no 1, celle qui ne ferait pas de mal à une mouche : « Vous avez bien joué aujourd’hui, non ? » Oui, en effet, il a battu Philipp Petzschner, 36e mondial, 6-3, 6-2. Et, soudain, le blanc. Gênant, le blanc, quand il dure. Celui-là veut dire : « Bon, qui se dévoue pour poser la question avec “contrôle positif à la cocaïne” dedans ? » Une femme, hier, se jeta à l’eau. Et Gasquet s’y attendait. En gros, il a répondu qu’il n’avait pas envie de répondre.

Tsonga : « Qu’on arrête de parler du traumatisme »

Quelque part, cette question, il n’en peut plus. Et pourtant, de lui-même, Gasquet revient toujours à cette histoire, même quand on lui parle d’autre chose. C’est plus fort que lui. On lui demande s’il a avancé dans sa recherche du coach étranger qu’il aimerait engager pour la prochaine saison. Réponse : « Oui, non, je ne sais pas. Y a autre chose de plus important. » Ona parlé de Brad Stine et de José Perlas, lui dit-on. Réponse : « Non, l’Américain, c’estfaux… Perlas, oui, enfin, non, ce n’est pas ce qui me préoccupe le plus. Y a toujours cet appel qui doit être prononcé (*). Je n’ai aucune nouvelle (…). Personne ne peut imaginer l’enfer que j’ai vécu. Je ne peux toujours pas sortir dans la rue à Paris. » On n’en sort pas, lui non plus. Et si on songeait à arrêter de parler de Gasquet comme d’un grave accidenté de la route. Depuis son retour, discret, aux qualifs de New Haven, il a perdu contre Nadal (US Open), Monfils (Metz) et Verdasco (Kuala Lumpur). Pas de « vilaine » défaite, quoi. S’il perd aujourd’hui, ce sera contre Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, qu’il a battu deux fois cette saison (Brisbane et Rome). « Quand Richard sera de nouveau compétitif ? Mais il est déjà très compétitif ! insistait le numéro 1 français hier. Je l’ai vu contre Petzschner et j’ai vu un mec bien en place. Il dit qu’il va revenir dans le top 20, mais on sait tous que l’an prochain il y sera. Moi je m’attends à du vrai Gasquet face àmoi à Tokyo. Il a vécu un truc très dur psychologiquement, mais il n’est pas handicapé. Son coup de raquette, il l’a toujours. Cen’est pas parce qu’il aarrêté deux mois et demi qu’il a perdu tant que ça. Même pour Richard, je pense que ce serait mieux qu’on arrête de parler du traumatisme et qu’on parle du très bon joueur qu’il est, là maintenant tout de suite. » Tsonga, facile vainqueur hier de Zverev, raisonne comme Gaël Monfils avant sa demi-finale à Metz contre Gasquet. En substance : oui, ç’a été dur pour Richard et, oui, il est déjà à un très bon niveau. L’un ne minimise pas l’autre. « À l’US Open, je n’étais pas foutu de mettre deux balles de suite dans le terrain. Juste avant, j’avais pris 6-2, 6-2 à l’entraînement contre un – 2/6. Aujourd’hui, ça va mieux, admet Gasquet. Faut dire que j’ai bossé comme un boeuf pour ça. Mais Jo a de l’avance sur moi. À l’US Open, je ne l’aurais jamais battu ; à Metz, je ne pense pas non plus. Ici, j’ai plus de chances. » C’est dit du bout des lèvres, mais c’est dit. Cette semaine, Gasquet est 53e mondial. Il n’était plus sorti du top 50 depuis août 2006. On trouve juste que ce classement est un petit peu beaucoup menteur. Tsonga est d’accord.

(*) La Fédération internationale et l’Agence mondiale antidopage ont fait appel de la sanction de deux mois et demi de suspension, jugée par eux trop clémente, auprès du Tribunal arbitral du sport.

Truc
10-08-2009, 07:42 PM
A summary:

It starts with a description of his press conference after the Petzsche match. First a trivial question about the match and then a long, awkward silence. Finally a journalist dared to ask the question about the suspension. He was expecting it. And pretty much answered that he didn't want to answer.
On one hand he's sick of this story. But on the other hand he comes back to it all the time himself. For example he was asked about the coach story then. His answer: "Yes, no, I don't know. There is something more important to me right now." The journalist insists, people are speaking of Brad Stine and José Perlas, is that true? Richard: "No, not the American, it's not true... Perlas, yes. But well, that's not what is bothering me the most right now. There still is this appeal story. I have no news at all. (...) Nobody can imagine the living hell I went through. I still can't go on the street in Paris." He keeps coming back to it.
And if we stopped talking about Gasquet as if he was a road victim? Since his discreet comeback in the qualies of New Haven he's lost to Nadal, Monfils and Verdasco. No ugly defeats. Same if he loses to Jo today.
"When will Richard be competitive again? Jo says. But he already is very competitive! I watched him against Petzschner and I saw a guy who is ready. He says he wants to come back into the top 20, but we all know he will next year. I'm expecting to face the real Gasquet in Tokyo. He went through a very tough thing mentally, but he's not disabled. He still has his great touch. He can't have lost his tennis that much in two months and a half. Even for Richard, I think it would be better to stop talking about the trauma and to talk about the excellent player he is, right now."
Monfils said exactly the same thing in Metz. Yes, it was tough for Richard. And yes, he already is playing at a great level.
"At the US Open I couldn't keep the ball in play twice in a row. Just before the tournament I lost 6-2 6-2 in training against a guy ranked -2/6. It's better now, Gasquet admits. But I've worked like a dog for that. Jo still is ahead of me. I would never have beaten him at the US Open; I don't think I would have in Metz either. Here, my chances are bigger." He said it half-heartedly. But he said it.
This week is the first time he's ranked out of the top 50 since August 2006. We think his ranking is a little very deceptive. And Tsonga agrees with us.

marina36
10-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Thanks a lot for this article! ;) (if you can put the article of l'Equipe tomorrow, it would be very nice!!)

"Yes, no, I don't know."
:lol: :lol:

We can see that the appeal is very present in his mind (maybe the changes of concentration during the match is because of that??? ).

Puschkin
10-08-2009, 08:50 PM
(if you can put the article of l'Equipe tomorrow, it would be very nice!!)
Yeah, that would be great.

As for Tsonga's useful comments, I keep myself under control, because if I speak my mind, I might get banned.

Keijan
10-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the article Fran :) they always write so well and funny, I love to read l'Equipe.


As for Tsonga's useful comments, I keep myself under control, because if I speak my mind, I might get banned.

Okay, lady, we need to have a talk about that :p I noticed you said something like that earlier too and I was wondering why :shrug: What don't you agree with when Jo says that Richard is already competitive, that he's going to be back in top 20, that he lived very difficult times psychologically, but that physically he's not injured and still has his magic arm, or that people should stop asking him about the coke and start considering the player he is ?

I agree myself fully with all that, we need to move on and leave this sorry story behind, and Richie is slowly but surely getting back to his old better self :shrug: Gaël said something like that last week too... What did you want Jo to say ? He obviously got asked about it, so he had to answer... I know you don't like him but I really didn't expect this kind of comments from you, and I think he doesn't deserve it. Maybe let's try not to be too manichean :)

Cloudygirl
10-08-2009, 11:58 PM
I think that in some ways a mental thing can be worse than a physical thing. But he is clearly playing fairly good tennis and he has been pretty unfortunate with his draw this week to come up against Jo so soon.

I don't know what else his friends can say really. I mean at the moment the case is going to be constantly on his mind but if he is playing this well already he clearly is competitive. I didn't watch the match today but I thought in some of his previous matches that he is playing almost as well as he was pre coke scandal (I mean it's not like he was having that great a year before all that is it) and it is a couple of sloppy things that lose him matches and lack of concentration rather than his playing style.

I think once this is over (hopefully soon and with a good result for him) he might end up better than before.

Truc
10-09-2009, 06:23 AM
Yes, be mad at Gaël too because he said the same thing in Metz - or he said it in a "worse" way, actually, because he made the comparison with the time he needs to come back after his own injury breaks and said he expected Richard to be at 100% by now.
As for me, I agree with them too, but I know we won't agree on this.
Of course it always is a bit sensitive when they comment on each other, but they keep getting asked about each other too.

You also have to take in consideration that they both said that before a match against Richard and it's very normal for them to go into the match with that state of mind. We know how it looks like when a player starts wondering if his opponent might not be at 100%.

Truc
10-09-2009, 06:27 AM
Here's the part about Richard's match in today's article, but you will be disappointed, it's all about the windy conditions:
COUCHÉ MÉLOR, COUCHÉ ! En tournée au Japon depuis lundi, le typhon Mélor s’était essoufflé hier midi. Chouette, ils allaient enfin pouvoir jouer dehors cette semaine. On ouvrit le toit, c’était presque l’été. Édouard Roger-Vasselin prit la lumière le premier et là, qui revoilà ? Mélor. Pas de pluie, mais des rafales de vent à vous secouer un sumotori. Ça dura ainsi du début de Tsonga-Gasquet (victoire du premier 4-6, 6-2, 6-2) jusqu’à la moitié de Simon-Youzhny (défaite du premier 6-7, 7-6, 4-6). Le vent, disait la bougie, faudrait l’interdire. Sauf qu’en tennis, le règlement prévoit des mesures spéciales en cas de pluie, neige ou canicule (suspension du match ou fermeture du toit, si toit il y a) mais rien par vent mauvais. Typhon Mélor ou typhon Bidule, peu importe. On aurait voulu tester le quotient émotionnel de nos quatre cobayes, on n’aurait pas fait mieux. Tsonga était d’ailleurs assez satisfait du sien. « J’appréhendais parce que Richard aime le vent. Il vient du Sud et chez lui, on a l’habitude. Quand on était mômes et qu’on jouait un tournoi venté, on disait toujours : “ Richard va gagner, le vent c’est comme s’il n’existait pas pour lui. ” Mais là, même pour lui c’était trop. Quand je faisais rebondir la balle avant de servir, une fois sur deux elle était soufflée par une rafale. Personne n’aurait pu faire un beau match là-dedans. » D’ailleurs, le leur fut assez laid. L’an dernier, dans le zef de Miami, Tsonga avait complètement déraillé contre Julien Benneteau. Hier, il a su se retenir. « Ça fait plaisir parce que je travaille là-dessus depuis quelque temps. J’essaie de devenir plus patient, plus stoïque. Déjà à Bangkok la semaine dernière, je n’avais pas craqué quand j’avais été mené par un gros serveur (Gulbis). » Hier, il n’a pas craqué mais il a longtemps hésité. Jusqu’à 6-4 et deux balles de break à 2-1, Gasquet dominait. Meilleur au service, stable du fond, il rata alors un passing de revers qui aurait peut-être tout changé. Car ensuite, Tsonga marqua sept jeux de suite quand Gasquet se détraquait. D’abord le service, après le coup droit et, surtout, le machin entre les oreilles qu’on appelle « le mental ». Agacé, archi-frustré, Gasquet ne se remit plus jamais dedans. « Celui qui a su garder le plus longtemps sa concentration a gagné, synthétisait le perdant. C’est là que je vois que je n’ai pas encore toute ma tête au tennis (allusion à l’affaire que vous savez). Mais il y a plus grave que cette défaite (même allusion). »
Yesterday was all about who would be able to deal with the wind. A great test for the mental strength of the players. Jo says he thought that the wind would favour Richard who comes from a very windy region in the South of France. When they were young and playing an event with a lot of wind, everybody was saying "Richard will win it".
Richard was dominating indeed until 6-4 and 2 BP at 2-1. Better on serve, solid from the baseline, he missed a BH passing-shot then which could have changed everything. Jo won the next 7 games. Richard's serve started to go wrong, then his FH too and, above all, his mind. "The winner was the one who was able to stay focused. That's where you can see my mind isn't completely on tennis yet (hint at you-know-what). But there are more important things than this defeat (another hint)."

~*BGT*~
10-09-2009, 06:53 AM
It's sort of a blessing in disguise that Richie is playing all these tournaments. On Monday, Richie will be #55 in the rankings :sobbing:

Puschkin
10-09-2009, 07:38 AM
quoting L'Equipe: C’est là que je vois que je n’ai pas encore toute ma tête au tennis. Mais il y a plus grave que cette défaite.
It is still in his head and it is rather easy to say "forget about it" when it is somebody else. I imagine Richard won't be too happy to read this simplistic advice in the papers, particularly taking into account that he himself always refrains from discussing other players' problems in public.

But I plead guilty for being a shrinking violet when Richard is concerned. ;)

Keijan
10-09-2009, 10:49 AM
It is still in his head and it is rather easy to say "forget about it" when it is somebody else. I imagine Richard won't be too happy to read this simplistic advice in the papers, particularly taking into account that he himself always refrains from discussing other players' problems in public.


I think you misunderstood Jo's comment. He's not saying Richie should stop complaining about his misfortune or anything like that, but that the journalists should leave him alone and stop talking about it, which is so true. For gods sake, even if Richie wins the next Wimbledon he'll still get asked about the cocaine. No one is saying that he should forget about it, just that he should be allowed to move on. Jo is defending him, whether you like it or not. He absolutely didn't mean that Richie didn't go through a trauma. I believe Richie will appreciate the support, since you can read in the first article that when a journalist asks him about the coke, he refuses to answer. He's trying to move on, he's not made of sugar either, I think we could trust him about that.

About discussing other players problems in public, what will you say about Rafa, Gael, Gilles, or Federer, who all commented on Richard's misfortune ? They are asked about it, and if they say they don't want to comment on it, they get called insensitive or bad friends. I'm under the impression that whatever Jo does or says, you hate it in advance :shrug:

(replying to your pm right away, well, as soon as Gael wins :p)


I think once this is over (hopefully soon and with a good result for him) he might end up better than before.

Amen to this :) let's take the best of each event, and especially the hardest ones ;)

And :rolls: at the Mélor story :lol:

Schu
10-09-2009, 03:27 PM
It's sort of a blessing in disguise that Richie is playing all these tournaments. On Monday, Richie will be #55 in the rankings :sobbing:

I't been a long time since he was out of the top 50. I don't like the new ranking rules. I don't understand why someone who missed 2 GS and 3 or 4 or was it 5 1000s can't at least use points from the equivalent number of MM tournies. That's sort of the way it used to be and is in part how DelPotro rose up the rankings. Once you drop so low it's a hard fight just to get IN the big tournaments. Guess we'll see how hard he's willing to fight.

I just wish the appeal mess would finally be settled and he can focus 100% on tennis - he has a hard enough time staying focused when there are no distractions.

ANd BTW, Ernie :banghead: - as frustrating as RIchie!

Gretchen.
10-09-2009, 03:55 PM
So is he getting a WC then for Shanghai?? Cause won't his ranking be too low for automatic entry? or will he go through qualies?

Schu
10-09-2009, 04:46 PM
So is he getting a WC then for Shanghai?? Cause won't his ranking be too low for automatic entry? or will he go through qualies?

I think players for main draw were selected BEFORE his ranked dropped below 50, plus a bunch of top 50 are not playing. According to http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=150435 he's in with room to spare. but unless he has some pretty good results in Shanghai, it's qualies for Bercy. Allez Richie. He's not in the qualies draw so he better be in the main one.

Cloudygirl
10-09-2009, 06:13 PM
He surely would get a wild card for Bercy if he asks for one. I would be pretty shocked if he didn't.

Gretchen.
10-09-2009, 07:03 PM
I think players for main draw were selected BEFORE his ranked dropped below 50, plus a bunch of top 50 are not playing. According to http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=150435 he's in with room to spare. but unless he has some pretty good results in Shanghai, it's qualies for Bercy. Allez Richie. He's not in the qualies draw so he better be in the main one.

Thanks!

So good to know he will definitely be there,please get a favorable draw! No Nadals in the first round purrrlease.

And I agree with Tori surely the FTT would give him a WC for Bercy, Not only is he French but come on it's Richie.

C-B-R
10-09-2009, 08:03 PM
Thanks!

So good to know he will definitely be there,please get a favorable draw! No Nadals in the first round purrrlease.

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he wont get any of the top seeds as they get byes in the first round but sure to get a big seed if he makes it to the 2nd round

Cloudygirl
10-10-2009, 08:53 AM
oh ffs he has drawn Ferrer round 1.

Tess Gray
10-10-2009, 09:59 AM
Nooo not Ferrer :sobbing: He's always lost easily to Ferrer, only won once. I think it's time for another win vs Mr. David:p

Davodus
10-10-2009, 10:09 AM
Ferrer :o :o

marina36
10-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Oh no.... not Ferrer!!! :mad:
Richard definitely can't be more unlucky I think.

Allez Richard!

ImmzB
10-10-2009, 10:50 AM
Come on Richieeeee

Cloudygirl
10-10-2009, 10:51 AM
Ferrer is playing shit at the moment so he stands a chance if he is decent mentally.

reggie1
10-10-2009, 01:07 PM
God, Ferrer's not a good opponent for him, I think he has a bit of a block when he plays against him, Verdasco and Nadal! When will he get a break. I'm not usually into conspiracy theories but it's almost as if these tournaments want to get rid of him as quickly as possible whilst this cocaine nonsense is hanging over his head and he is getting bad draws early on. Although in reality the further you slip in the rankings, the tougher draw you get, it's going to be an uphill battle from now on but I think he seems hungrier for the sport than I have ever seen him.

Gretchen.
10-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Awful draw just awful :o

I mean not only is Ferrer there but then we have Del Po and Jo, why must he always draw Spaniards/Argentinians and also be on the same half as the other Frenchies I mean why?

At least David hasn't been playing all that too well lately so there is actually a bit of a chance but still this is ridiculous all the draws for every important tournament are so unfair. :mad:

~*BGT*~
10-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Of all the 9-16 seeds to draw... :o

case
10-10-2009, 05:53 PM
Ferrer is playing shit at the moment so he stands a chance if he is decent mentally.


i think that says it all. ferrer has been playing like shit. i heard he was injured

without his head gasquet could stand a chance.
maybe a lobotomy is indicated;)*


*just kidding

Cloudygirl
10-10-2009, 06:12 PM
It's his best chance to win against him. Ferrer has had some shocking loses this year.

Navarro
acasuso
Massu
King Oscar
PHM
and Querrey

So he is beatable.

Schu
10-10-2009, 07:14 PM
A year or two ago I would have said Ferrer - shit first round but Ferrer really hasn't been playing well at all and has to be lacking confidence. I actually think not too bad first round, could be a lot worse. if Richie could just go into the match with the mindset he had the time he really took it to Pics, he has a great chance.

With his ranking so low as it is, every round has the potential to be a tough one. As a coach of mine used to say when I moaned about bad draws - if you are going to win the tournament, you have to beat the good players eventually so might as well start from the first round.

You can do it Richie!!

Cloudygirl
10-10-2009, 07:17 PM
Yup you can do it Richie. And look at it this way he is already making semis of 250s so next year when he actually plays all the slams he should shoot up the rankings.

Naina
10-10-2009, 07:19 PM
Bad draw but could have been much much much worse :o
All I can say is Allez Richie :bounce:

whattheheck
10-11-2009, 05:55 AM
It's time Richie turn it around against Ferrer.

Davodus
10-11-2009, 12:14 PM
OOP for monday is out, richard vs ferrer is 2nd on stadium court

matches don't start until 2pm local time

Cloudygirl
10-11-2009, 12:17 PM
OOP for monday is out, richard vs ferrer is 2nd on stadium court

matches don't start until 2pm local time

oh arse :( that means I'm at work during his match.

Naina
10-11-2009, 12:28 PM
Bad scheduling :( if blake karlovic is short (which is most probably impossible) then I might be able to watch him before class otherwise no :sobbing:
anyway Allez Rich :bounce:

Gasquetno.1
10-11-2009, 05:08 PM
I think that means he'll be on at around 7.30 in the morning England time? If Blake and Karlovic is an hour and a half...

Cloudygirl
10-11-2009, 05:10 PM
we are still on BST so I made it about 8.30am. If it was 7.30am I could watch half an hour.

Lemon Custard
10-12-2009, 12:56 AM
According to my estimations, it should be on around 7pm Sydney time... Is that right David (remembering of course that I'm on DST and you aren't)? I'm really really bad with timezone changes.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 01:23 AM
That is what I guess, around 6pm for me, so 7pm for you :)

~*BGT*~
10-12-2009, 03:32 AM
3 AM for me over here :o

Davodus
10-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Blake vs Karlovic taking 400 years :o :lol:

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 07:56 AM
Blake vs Karlovic taking 400 years :o :lol:
My thoughts exactly.

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 08:12 AM
Richard up next. I just hope he plays well and stays competitive.

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 08:16 AM
The stadium is empty. :o

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:18 AM
Empty stadiums really annoy me :o Beijing was just as empty last week

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 08:19 AM
Empty stadiums really annoy me :o Beijing was just as empty last week

And they say the future of tennis is in Asia. :rolleyes:

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:22 AM
And they say the future of tennis is in Asia. :rolleyes:

I know :o Maybe they should try and half fill a stadium first, then say that :rolleyes:

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:28 AM
And we begin! Allez

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:31 AM
Bp :(

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:34 AM
Great volley :worship:

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Broken :o didn't play well that game, too many errors

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Oh well. Broken in first game. This is gonna be a tough one. At least he is trying to be aggressive.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:38 AM
Richard's game must really match up well for Ferrer, he always plays well when they play.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:40 AM
More BPs :rolleyes:

EDIT: another quick match with against Ferrer, by the look of it

mind you his first serve % is like 30, so he needs to pick that up

simplet
10-12-2009, 08:41 AM
Looks like we're in for another beating...

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 08:41 AM
he plays very poorly at the moment, no first service and the rest is not there either, ferrer doesn't need to do anything.

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 08:42 AM
Ferrer is toying with Richard as always. Richard can not put his first serve in and can't win any baseline point if he hits seconds.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:44 AM
Some nice backhands there

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:46 AM
Too far back as usual :rolleyes:

simplet
10-12-2009, 08:48 AM
Richard running around his forehand, always funny to see

edit : yay, nice fight there

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:49 AM
Well he is on the board with one break back, but was a little lucky

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 08:50 AM
it is getting better, just refind your serve Rich and it will be much easier. Ferrer is not a giant.

simplet
10-12-2009, 08:51 AM
No serve at all today

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:53 AM
More first serves, thats what we want to see

Nice hold in the end, saving the BPs this time

simplet
10-12-2009, 08:55 AM
Phew. He droped below 33% points won on his serve at some point during this last service game. Good recovery.

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 08:55 AM
More first serves, thats what we want to see
Exactly, everything will flow from there. But I feel he is slowly getting into the mtach. Keep on fighting!

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 08:55 AM
I think it is Ferrer's return of serve that causes so much trouble for Richard. He likes getting free points, but Ferrer gets so much clean shots on the return.

Nice fight to hold here.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 08:59 AM
Exactly, everything will flow from there. But I feel he is slowly getting into the mtach. Keep on fighting!

Exactly. He is definitely more into the match, playing better now.

simplet
10-12-2009, 09:00 AM
This Gasquet is such a fighter.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:00 AM
What a fantastic succession of points

2 amazing winners in a row to break again.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:02 AM
:rolleyes: way to keep momentum richard

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:03 AM
Broken again :ras:

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:03 AM
That was crap, after the two rebreaks.:rolleyes:

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 09:04 AM
Oh crap. Such a great game to break serve again and then this poor serve game.

Dini
10-12-2009, 09:04 AM
Fudge cake.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:10 AM
At least he held serve

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Boo :(

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 09:16 AM
Well, this set was better than most of the sets he played against Ferrer last 4 matches.
In patches where he played well, he can hang in there.


He should improve his serve in second set.

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:21 AM
crappy again, no first serve and three BH errors.

Dini
10-12-2009, 09:21 AM
:mad:

He's erroring off the backhand.

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:22 AM
:rolleyes: great start to the set Richard :ras:

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:26 AM
and he has no luck either, that Ball from Ferrer was damned close

Dini
10-12-2009, 09:27 AM
Finally a gorgeous backhand. :drool:

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:28 AM
How easy is life with a first serve!

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 09:28 AM
As I said before, at least for the most part, Richard is going for it. Yes, he misses backhands, forehands, serves, his execution isn't best today, but I feel like the match at least partly in his hands. That's a good thing.

Dini
10-12-2009, 09:32 AM
Jeez so many backhand errors. wtf.

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:33 AM
As I said before, at least for the most part, Richard is going for it. Yes, he misses backhands, forehands, serves, his execution isn't best today, but I feel like the match at least partly in his hands. That's a good thing.

I am not fully convinced. Ferrer is far from great today, amd Richard just throws in far too many errors. :o

simplet
10-12-2009, 09:37 AM
I am not fully convinced. Ferrer is far from great today, amd Richard just throws in far too many errors. :o

Well yeah. Everyone always tells him to go for it, even if he will take some beatings at first. That's pretty much what he's doing now, and he still does better than if he was playing from the stands.

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 09:39 AM
I am not fully convinced. Ferrer is far from great today, amd Richard just throws in far too many errors. :o

I don't know, Ferrer is always the same to me. He always runs well, hit his forehand well and serves accurately. YEs, he has misses few easy shots. The difference between this match and the one in Dubai is that Richard, although not playing well, he is TRYING to play the right way. Of course, he will make more mistakes playing this well. In Dubai he hasn't made many bh errors, cause he is just rolling the ball in and Ferrer pounced on it.

Dini
10-12-2009, 09:45 AM
"Hardwork beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

I don't like the suggestion that Richie doesn't work hard enough. :ras:

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:46 AM
I don't know, Ferrer is always the same to me. He always runs well, hit his forehand well and serves accurately. YEs, he has misses few easy shots. The difference between this match and the one in Dubai is that Richard, although not playing well, he is TRYING to play the right way.

if you find positives in Richard's play, I am not going to contradict you. :p

Davodus
10-12-2009, 09:54 AM
Match over :ras: rapid end

~*BGT*~
10-12-2009, 09:54 AM
It's just sad thinking of what Richard did on this very court just two years ago. :awww:

Dini
10-12-2009, 09:54 AM
:bigcry:

Rich :hug:

Puschkin
10-12-2009, 09:55 AM
Too patchy all over, poor first serve and his chocalate side, the BH did not work too well either. Howver, he picked himself up well after he was down 0-3. That looked dreadful at the beginning.

Vlad1980
10-12-2009, 09:56 AM
Disappointing last game. Overall, ok, many time better than Dubai. Richard's forehand is really showing up some huge weakness when compared to player like Ferrer. He has hard to time trying to stay in the point with that shot.

whattheheck
10-12-2009, 11:16 AM
Disappointing result, but moving on, what's his next tournament?

C-B-R
10-12-2009, 11:34 AM
Disappointing result, but moving on, what's his next tournament?

St. Petersburg I think

Gretchen.
10-12-2009, 01:35 PM
Why must Ferrer always find a way to at least play somewhat decent when against Richard? :o Did someone put a hex on him or something?

Shame he lost :awww: Could have picked up some points here and get some more confidence obviously but time to move on and keep improving.

Schu
10-12-2009, 03:22 PM
I don't know, Ferrer is always the same to me. He always runs well, hit his forehand well and serves accurately. YEs, he has misses few easy shots. The difference between this match and the one in Dubai is that Richard, although not playing well, he is TRYING to play the right way. Of course, he will make more mistakes playing this well. In Dubai he hasn't made many bh errors, cause he is just rolling the ball in and Ferrer pounced on it.

Yep. GUess we are never satisfied. We want him to go for it which will often result in more errors and then we he does we moan about the errors. RIchard was trying to play the right way but he still could have been more aggressive on the second serve return and on many points he was still standing too far back to be really aggressive. He did play some beautiful points which reminded me why I love to watch him play even while banging my head against a wall in frustration. He just didn't play enough at the right time.

It's too bad he couldn't even buy a first serve last night. I don't think he thought he could win from the first ball he hit. Despite the horrendous beginning he actually manged to even it up but instead of looking fired up, to me he looked flat and almost scared and gave the momentum right back to Ferrer.

SO much for Asia - back to Europe and hopefully a few good matches to end a year that can't end too soon. Good Luck in St. Pete, Richie.

RIchie you can beat these guys if only you believed you could.

Schu
10-12-2009, 03:26 PM
"Hardwork beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

I don't like the suggestion that Richie doesn't work hard enough. :ras:

I know. I wanted to kill Robbie Koneig... THese guys have no idea how hard he works, just because he is talented and his game isn't where they think it should be they assume it is because he's not working hard.

marina36
10-12-2009, 03:59 PM
St. Petersburg I think

No, it's the Open d'Orleans next week ;))