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Montreal Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated August 9, 2009)

smucav
06-30-2009, 03:47 PM
Tournament Name: ROGERS CUP
Location: MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CANADA
Dates: AUGUST 10-16, 2009
Prize Money: US $3,000,000 (US $2,430,000)
56 MAIN DRAW/28 QUALIFYING DRAW

SITE: Stade Uniprix
285 Faillon St. West
Montreal, Quebec, H2R-2W1–Canada
SURFACE: Hard court
BALL: Penn Masters Series
PRIZE MONEY: U.S. Dollars–Paid by ATP
WEB SITE: http://www3.rogerscup.com/men/english/home.php

Qualifying draw: Friday, August 7, 9:00 p.m.
Main draw: Friday, August 7, 3:00 p.m.
Doubles draw: Saturday, August 8, 6:00 p.m.

ATP Ranking Points
W: 1000
F: 600
SF: 360
QF: 180
R16: 90
R32: 45 (Seeds 1-8: 0)
R64: 10 (WC: 0)
Q: +25
Q14: 14
Q28: 0

Entry deadline: June 29, 2009
Seeding: August 3, 2009

1 Nadal, Rafael ESP 1
2 Federer, Roger SUI 2
3 Murray, Andy GBR 3
4 Djokovic, Novak SRB 4
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin ARG 5
6 Roddick, Andy USA 6
7 Simon, Gilles FRA 7
8 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 8
9 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried FRA 9
10 Gonzalez, Fernando CHI 10
11 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 11
OUT Soderling, Robin SWE 12
13 Cilic, Marin CRO 13
14 Monfils, Gael FRA 14
15 Robredo, Tommy ESP 15
OUT Nalbandian, David ARG 16
OUT Blake, James USA 17
18 Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI 18
OUT Gasquet, Richard FRA 19
20 Berdych, Tomas CZE 20
21 Ferrer, David ESP 21
22 Tursunov, Dmitry RUS 22
23 Stepanek, Radek CZE 23
24 Safin, Marat RUS 24
OUT Fish, Mardy USA 25
26 Andreev, Igor RUS 26
27 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 27
28 Hanescu, Victor ROU 28
29 Schuettler, Rainer GER 29
30 Melzer, Jurgen AUT 30
31 Troicki, Viktor SRB 31
32 Kohlschreiber, Philipp GER 32
OUT Montanes, Albert ESP 33
34 Haas, Tommy GER 34
35 Kiefer, Nicolas GER 35
36 Karlovic, Ivo CRO 36
OUT Santoro, Fabrice FRA 37
38 Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA 38
39 Kunitsyn, Igor RUS 39
OUT Ancic, Mario CRO 40
41 Chardy, Jeremy FRA 41
42 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 42
OUT Acasuso, Jose ARG 43
44 Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 44
45 (SE) Isner, John USA
46 (Q) Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP
47 (Q) Benneteau, Julien FRA
48 (Q) Levine, Jesse USA
49 (Q) Raonic, Milos CAN
50 (Q) Hernych, Jan CZE
51 (Q) Falla, Alejandro COL
52 (Q) Bogomolov, Alex USA
53 (WC) Dancevic, Frank CAN
54 (WC) Polansky, Peter CAN
55 (WC) Niemeyer, Fred CAN
56 (WC) Agostinelli, Bruno CAN
(LL) Golubev, Andrey KAZ (replaces Soderling)

Alternates
IN Zverev, Mischa GER 45
IN Sela, Dudi ISR 46
IN Querrey, Sam USA 47
OUT Almagro, Nicolas ESP 48
OUT Becker, Benjamin GER 49
OUT Seppi, Andreas ITA 50
OUT Tipsarevic, Janko SRB 51
OUT Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 52
OUT Clement, Arnaud FRA 53
IN Serra, Florent FRA 54
IN Petzschner, Philipp GER 55
IN Hewitt, Lleyton AUS 56
OUT Vassallo Arguello, Martin ARG 57
OUT Beck, Andreas GER 58
OUT Gicquel, Marc FRA 59
OUT Rochus, Christophe BEL 60
OUT Moya, Carlos ESP 61
OUT Gonzalez, Maximo ARG 62
OUT Bolelli, Simone ITA 63
IN Mayer, Leonardo ARG 64
IN Lu, Yen-Hsun TPE 65
1. Fognini, Fabio ITA 66
2. Hernych, Jan CZE 67
OUT Navarro, Ivan ESP 68
3. Monaco, Juan ARG 69

kiwi10is
06-30-2009, 06:03 PM
Ancic already withdrew :-( poor boy... Zverev in

chowdahead25
06-30-2009, 06:54 PM
Janko:(

valexie03
06-30-2009, 07:25 PM
Mario :sad: Gasquet :shrug:

shaggy
07-01-2009, 06:59 PM
Ancic already withdrew :-( poor boy... Zverev in

source, please?

dam0dred
07-06-2009, 01:25 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if Fed was a no-show here. The whole baby thing.

duong
07-06-2009, 11:10 AM
A French tennis news website says in a very affirmative way that Federer has already withdrewn from Montreal :

http://www.welovetennis.fr/rafael-nadal/13198-les-retrouvailles-attendront

Alors que Roger Federer a déclaré forfait pour le Masters 1000 Montréal

Before that, they had said yesterday that Federer "should not" take part in Montreal and Cinci as the baby is expected for mid-august :

http://www.welovetennis.fr/wimbledon/13180-federer-est-en-vacances

Today, they are affirmative about Montreal, nothing more about Cinci.

tufani
07-06-2009, 10:47 PM
duong, any source on this besides WLT?

Mario... :sobbing:

duong
07-07-2009, 02:35 PM
duong, any source on this besides WLT?


No I don't have anything more, but they are very affirmative, at least about the baby arriving in that moment, and also about Montreal (not about Cinci).

This website is not used to giving "rumours" like that.

Or if they do sometimes, they don't use this affirmative tone.

Then I guess they got some information from somebody, either journalist (Swiss press ?) or else.

At least some people know when the baby arrives, and if he/she arrives around the 15th of august, I guess it will not be easy for Federer to be in Northern America in a near time.

But anyway it would be interesting to see what the ATP says about that : if he doesn't come in Montreal at all (even for promotion), he should be suspended for another MS1000 (Madrid next year ?) from what I understood from the rulebook. In that case it would be also interesting to see the organizers' reactions in that tournament where he would be suspended because of that stupid "suspension rule" :lol:

smucav
07-07-2009, 03:11 PM
if he doesn't come in Montreal at all (even for promotion), he should be suspended for another MS1000 (Madrid next year ?) from what I understood from the rulebook.That's not true. Federer is one of four players who qualified for a one event commitment reduction. He can withdraw from Montreal (before the deadline) & receive no penalty except the zero-pointer.

duong
07-07-2009, 03:46 PM
That's not true. Federer is one of four players who qualified for a one event commitment reduction. He can withdraw from Montreal (before the deadline) & receive no penalty except the zero-pointer.

I'm interested in what you say, Smucav, as I've seen already that you had good information from the ATP,

and I'm very confused about these rules.

In the rulebook, the suspension is only mentioned in "VIII the Code" 8.03.D withdrawal Penalties (page 133) :

2) ATP World Tour Masters 1000.
Any player withdrawing from the main draw shall be suspended from a subsequent ATP World Tour Masters 1000 event.
This event shall be the event where the player earned the highest point total during the previous 12 months.
Subsequent withdrawals will carry a second suspension from the next event where the player earned his second highest point total.
Additional withdrawals will include further suspensions in the same manner.
Players shall not have the suspension penalty assessed if they complete the requirements for “promotional activities” or the withdrawal complied with the requirements for an on-site withdrawal.
Players may appeal suspension penalties to a Tribunal who will determine whether the penalties are affirmed or set aside (see sections J & K below).


As you see there's no mention here of the "commitment reduction".

And I thought that this "commitment reduction" didn't impact the "withdrawal penalties" and was another level of obligation ... which concerned the "bonus-pool" for the top-30 players ("ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Bonus Pool" 1.07 G).

Because this "commitment reduction for MS1000 events" (mentioned in another chapter 1.08) only concerns the "commitment players" (defined in 1.07 C), which means "year-end top-30 players" (who indeed have a "commitment" defined in 1.07 D" which includes all MS1000 events). And this "commitment reduction for MS 1000 events" is only mentioned in paragraph 1.07G "ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Bonus Pool", and not in the chapter about "withdrawal penalties".

In my eyes, the "withdrawal penalties", which apply to all the players who are accepted in the main draw (see above "any player withdrawing from the main draw"), not only to the top-30 players, are another level of obligation than the "commitment".

That's how I had understood it : the "commitment to MS 1000 events" concerns the top-30 players and the bonus pool ; the "withdrawal penalties" concern all the players and are of something else, another level of obligation.

How much are you sure of your interpretation about that ?
Because if you're right, I guess the rulebook is badly written (they should have at least mentioned this possibility to avoid the suspension in paragraph 8.03 D ... as they mentioned the possibility to avoid them thanks to promotional activities and so on).

Thanks in advance Smucav : the rulebook is really not clear if what you say is true :)

valexie03
07-07-2009, 04:46 PM
That's not true. Federer is one of four players who qualified for a one event commitment reduction. He can withdraw from Montreal (before the deadline) & receive no penalty except the zero-pointer.

How does a player qualify :confused:

Who are the other 3 players :confused:

What is the deadline for a Montreal withdrawal :confused:

I wish he'd play Montreal and skip Cincy instead :devil:

tufani
07-07-2009, 07:04 PM
No I don't have anything more, but they are very affirmative, at least about the baby arriving in that moment, and also about Montreal (not about Cinci).

This website is not used to giving "rumours" like that.

Or if they do sometimes, they don't use this affirmative tone.

Then I guess they got some information from somebody, either journalist (Swiss press ?) or else.

At least some people know when the baby arrives, and if he/she arrives around the 15th of august, I guess it will not be easy for Federer to be in Northern America in a near time.

Thanks! But WLT was wrong a couple of times before nevertheless, that's why I asked about other sources. This is so far the only website that is so sure about Federer skipping Montreal. As far as I know, there is no clear information about it in the Swiss press. :shrug: Maybe WLT has it's own sources, I don't know. Or maybe it's just a rumour. It just seems a bit early for this kind of news, even though there is a high probability of this to happen considering all the talks.

smucav
07-07-2009, 07:09 PM
How much are you sure of your interpretation about that ?100%

Thanks in advance Smucav : the rulebook is really not clear if what you say is true :)A lot of players don't read the rulebook carefully or at all, so the ATP provides them w. summaries of rules changes such as these that are easier for the players to read & understand.

This was discussed at length at the player council meetings in the fall of 2008. Previously players could withdraw from 2/9 AMS events w. no penalty (except the zero-pointers). The top four players could only withdraw from one AMS event & had to play both Madrid & Paris to receive their bonuses. With the increased bonus pool in 2009, the rules were changed so that all players must play 8/8 Masters Series events (or play all the ones they got into), but some top players who had been used to only playing 7/9 complained so the compromise was a specific set of factors to allow some of the commitment players to only play 7/8.

Commitment players who qualify for an event reduction can withdraw (on time) from one 1000-level event w. no penalty (except a zero-pointer) & meet their player commitments for the year (providing that they meet the other aspects of the commitment).

pages 11-12

D.Commitment
The commitment for the commitment players is, the singles event of all ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournaments for which he is accepted, the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals (if qualified as a direct acceptance or designated as the alternate) and four (4) ATP World Tour 500 tournaments, one (1) of which must be held following the US Open. For commitment and ranking purposes, the Monte Carlo Masters 1000 will be included in the minimum requirements for the 500 category. 2009 Davis Cup points may be counted as one (1) of four (4) in the ATP World Tour 500 category rankings, however, it shall not count towards the commitment requirement of a commitment player.

2) Players meeting criteria for a one (1) event reduction in their ATP World Tour Masters 1000 commitment.
a) Must play in seven (7) of the eight (8) mandatory ATP World Tour Masters 1000 events.
i) Not playing in one (1) event results in a 50% reduction of bonus.
ii) Not playing in two (2) events renders the player ineligible for the bonus.
b) And must play, if qualified, in the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.
i) Not playing, if qualified, the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals renders the player ineligible for the bonus.
ii) A player who is otherwise qualified but does not play in the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals may receive 80% of earned bonus by appearing at the finals event to do promotional activities, as determined by the ATP.(Note that this rule is in the commitment/bonus section of the rulebook, not the rankings section. Any direct-acceptance player who withdraws from a required event receives a zero-pointer. This rule has been in place since 2000.)

How does a player qualify :confused:
Who are the other 3 players :confused:Federer, Roddick, Safin, Schuettler

What is the deadline for a Montreal withdrawal :confused:The withdrawal deadline for all ATP tournaments (except Indian Wells/Miami) is Friday at Noon.

duong
07-07-2009, 07:12 PM
Thanks! But WLT was wrong a couple of times before nevertheless, that's why I asked about other sources. This is so far the only website that is so sure about Federer skipping Montreal. As far as I know, there is no clear information about it in the Swiss press. :shrug: Maybe WLT has it's own sources, I don't know. Or maybe it's just a rumour. It just seems a bit early for this kind of news, even though there is a high probability of this to happen considering all the talks.

I think that the information about the predicted birth date must be known by many people, even if they respect Fed's desire not to say it.

But maybe they go a bit too far about the withdrawal.

Actually you can never be sure about the date of a birth : if the baby is born 2 or 3 weeks before (I hope not), the fact is that Federer might maybe take part.

Anyway there's a press conference in Montreal tomorrow : maybe we will know a little bit more :shrug:

tufani
07-07-2009, 07:39 PM
I think that the information about the predicted birth date must be known by many people, even if they respect Fed's desire not to say it.

But maybe they go a bit too far about the withdrawal.

Actually you can never be sure about the date of a birth : if the baby is born 2 or 3 weeks before (I hope not), the fact is that Federer might maybe take part.

Anyway there's a press conference in Montreal tomorrow : maybe we will know a little bit more :shrug:

Well, actually there is a rumour that the birth date is around Montreal. Probably that's where all the speculation about withdrawal comes from. It is likely that Fed has already made up his mind about whether or not to participate, but usually this kind of information comes from his official website. So we just have to wait until official announcement (if the is one).


Why there is no official information about Ancic's withdrawal? At least I cannot find it. :(

Cloudygirl
07-07-2009, 07:42 PM
Why is Gasquet still in the list. Surely he is out.

tufani
07-07-2009, 07:44 PM
Why is Gasquet still in the list. Surely he is out.

I thought he was included in the list automatically, as a Top30 player. :shrug: Maybe the officials want to wait till the announcement of the verdict.

Cloudygirl
07-07-2009, 07:48 PM
I thought he was included in the list automatically, as a Top30 player. :shrug: Maybe the officials want to wait till the announcement of the verdict.


Oh I guess. I just thought that because he was suspended he couldn't enter anything or be entered but I suppose he would still qualify automatically by ranking you're right.

smucav
07-07-2009, 07:54 PM
Why there is no official information about Ancic's withdrawal? At least I cannot find it. :(http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=8791598&postcount=1

valexie03
07-07-2009, 08:06 PM
Thanks for the info smucav :wavey:

tufani
07-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Oh I guess. I just thought that because he was suspended he couldn't enter anything or be entered but I suppose he would still qualify automatically by ranking you're right.

Well, you know that the current suspension ends on July 12th, so I guess that's why he was included in Montreal and Cincy entry lists, since there is no official information about the length of the probable ban yet.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=8791598&postcount=1

Thanks, but I meant articles/announcements which include the reason of withdrawal. Sorry for not making myself clear.

smucav
07-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Thanks, but I meant articles/announcements which include the reason of withdrawal. Sorry for not making myself clear.I only post official entry/withdrawal information. The ATP doesn't send out a press release every time a player withdraws. That's up to the tournament/player.

tufani
07-07-2009, 08:33 PM
The ATP doesn't send out a press release every time a player withdraws. That's up to the tournament/player.

I know that. That's why I asked here, maybe some of the board members found articles on this topic. It will be much appreciated if they post them here or in the player forum, that's it.
But thanks anyway. :wavey:

duong
07-07-2009, 09:01 PM
I know that. That's why I asked here, maybe some of the board members found articles on this topic. It will be much appreciated if they post them here or in the player forum, that's it.
But thanks anyway. :wavey:

If you have no more information, I guess he still has the same illness which had prevented him from playing in the last months, including this week Davis Cup :shrug:

tufani
07-07-2009, 09:25 PM
If you have no more information, I guess he still has the same illness which had prevented him from playing in the last months, including this week Davis Cup :shrug:

Well, while withdrawing from Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Davis Cup Mario said that he wasn't fit enough to play five-setters. That's not really the case with Masters 1000, so that's why I'm wondering. I'm afraid that something bigger than "not fit enough" is going on wrong with him lately. :sad:

valexie03
07-09-2009, 04:00 PM
Here's a link to yesterday's press conference by the tournament director
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Nadal+play+Montreal+Federer+baby+watch/1772194/story.html

Not very optimistic concerning Federer :sad: However, I have to admit he's right: the baby must take precedence over the Masters :angel:

nicksimioni
07-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Federer might give up because of the birth of the child

kaylee
07-09-2009, 05:10 PM
That would be nice but I doubt it!

exposbabe
07-10-2009, 02:18 AM
They've got Ancic, Nalbandian and Gasquet removed from the list (Ancic officially withdrawn).

Next in will be (in order): B Becker, Seppi, Tipsarevic, Nieminen and Clément.

Hewitt and JC Ferrero have asked for wild cards, and most probably will get them - especially Hewitt.
Baghdatis asked, but there's no chance and the Vancouver 100K Challenger is going to try to get him to play there.

Blarghman
07-10-2009, 08:15 PM
Not that it was in doubt, but two WCs will go to Frank and Peter :)

Canada's Frank Dancevic and Peter Polansky have been given spots in the main draw.

Story (http://tsn.ca/tennis/story/?id=284099)

mayagaller
07-15-2009, 04:57 PM
Not that it was in doubt, but two WCs will go to Frank and Peter :)

:) :yeah:

Oh gosh, so happy Gasquet will/should be there after all!

JasonAG
07-15-2009, 06:36 PM
Tennis Week has Hewitt in as a WC and Becker replacing Santoro in the main draw:

http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6636313

smucav
07-15-2009, 06:38 PM
Hewitt Handed Rogers Cup Wild Card:
http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6636313

walid1988
07-16-2009, 07:08 PM
no wild card for JC Ferrero?

betowiec
07-24-2009, 02:43 PM
expect numero uno to skip this event :)

Blarghman
07-24-2009, 08:06 PM
The fourth WC has yet to be decided, it's between Niemeyer and Agostinelli. Hopefully TC will go with the latter.

Who gets the remaining wild card is the subject of some intense discussion. It comes down to veteran Frederic Niemeyer, 33 and ranked No. 519, or Bruno Agostinelli, 22, and the hero of Canada’s recent Davis Cup win over Peru in Lima. Agostinelli, who has just finished his final year of eligibility at the University of Kentucky, won the fifth and deciding match, saving Canada from a trip to Uruguay right after the U.S. Open in September in order to preserve its spot in American Zone Group I action for 2010.

Story (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/match-tough/canadian-content-at-the-cups/article1229983/)

Andre♥
07-26-2009, 03:02 PM
What about giving it to a player who can actually be competitive in a match?

There's already two Canadians in the main draw. Isn't that enough?

This is a 1000 tournament, not a Canadian invitational...

DartMarcus
07-27-2009, 06:10 AM
What about giving it to a player who can actually be competitive in a match?

There's already two Canadians in the main draw. Isn't that enough?

This is a 1000 tournament, not a Canadian invitational...

They`ve got only 1 tournament in a year. So they deserve 3 players in a draw ;)
I also see it as the last MS for Niemeyer.

Andre♥
07-28-2009, 10:03 PM
They`ve got only 1 tournament in a year. So they deserve 3 players in a draw ;)
I also see it as the last MS for Niemeyer.

Portugal only has one tournament per season, it's a much bigger tennis country than Canada and only invites one Portuguese per year, even though it's a clay MM tournament!

Giving a WC to some Canadian who won't win more than six games in his match instead of giving it to Ferrero is pure ridiculous!

Blarghman
07-29-2009, 02:04 AM
Portugal only has one tournament per season, it's a much bigger tennis country than Canada and only invites one Portuguese per year, even though it's a clay MM tournament!

Giving a WC to some Canadian who won't win more than six games in his match instead of giving it to Ferrero is pure ridiculous!

Just because a tournament in Portugal gives only one home WC is no reason for the Rogers Cup to do it. Giving even one WC to a foreign player hasn't been common over the last several years, two would be extremely unlikely, unless it was someone on the same level of interest from casual fans as Safin/Hewitt.

Personally, I'd be pretty ticked off if Tennis Canada gave the fourth WC to a guy like Ferrero instead of to a Canadian, even though the Canadian would have much weaker odds of winning a match. The tournament is run by Canadian tennis, and paid for by the interest and attendance of Canadian fans and sponsors. So it makes perfect sense to me that the WC's should benefit Canadian tennis as well :)

If it's Bruno, it's a chance to give a (hopefully) rising star some well-needed experience. If it's Fred, it'll be a an opportunity to give a guy who was the #1 Canadian for a fair period of time, and a Davis Cup stalwart for a decade, a proper send-off at a big event. Either seems to me a much more compelling story from a Canadian perspective than Ferrero playing would be.

From an international perspective, you're right, fans from other countries probably would find one (or even zero) Canadians better. But that's not what WCs are for, in my mind.

Sigh, I didn't mean to rant quite so much about that :o

Michael Bluth
07-29-2009, 02:40 AM
So will Federer play or won't he?

dam0dred
07-30-2009, 08:31 PM
From the Montreal Gazette

Still no word on whether new dad Roger Federer will make it to Montreal.

And now, in a television interview broadcast Tuesday night, Rafael Nadal sounds like he's wavering on whether he'll come to defend his Rogers Cup title.

His people have told tournament director Eugene Lapierre he's coming. His hotel reservations are confirmed.

Here's what he announced on his web site about it two weeks ago:

"The event in Montreal is important and I expect to be there fit to play. Until then I need to continue to work on my recovery and practice well."

Now, he sounds dodgy about it. Maybe he's practicing and it's not feeling great. Maybe he's concerned that the Rogers Cup is 10 days away, and he still hasn't pushed it beyond "light and easy with Uncle Toni." Maybe he got some news with all those tests that has him concerned. Or maybe he's just being cautious.

"Good, the truth is that I feel good. But also, I have to wait and see how I continue to recover because I’ve only been back training for a week and a half and you always feel a bit better anemically. You start with lots of hope, but again, the real test would be to see how I go when I really push my knees and I think that is likely to happen in the upcoming days. So I hope it’s all good."

"What happened was that I was in a lot of pain for a while, when I came back from Miami and I was training in Manacor, I started to feel a strong pain, especially in my right knee. It was a different kind of pain (to what I’ve experienced before), so I took off the bandages in my knees, ... and everyone thought that it was because I felt great, but the problem was that it didn’t hurt there anymore, now it hurt in the superior end of the knee cap. And well, the bandages weren’t helping me at all and that’s when it al started to get worse, little by little.”

He says, and this is no surprise, that he should have blown off the Masters 1000 event in Madrid (the knees were painful, he hated the altitude, he needed a week off, and he was cranky the entire time). He says he played on anti-inflammatories, but still had too much pain.

Now here's the part that concerns Montreal fans.

He says his "dream" is to come back in Montreal (which is coming up quickly):

"I would like to come back in Montreal in a week and a half. I (will) have to force the knees and just see how far I can go. ... My main objective is not to regain the number one ranking. My main goal is to be well and happy to be playing tennis. ... I’m mentally ready to return now!"

betowiec
07-31-2009, 04:33 AM
still think roger will be out, based on the article with Rafa i expect him to be out as well

156mphserve
07-31-2009, 04:42 AM
On the wildcard topic, it onlt makes sense for tennis canada to give the wildcard to a canadian...who does the us open organizers give their wildcards too? estonians? no, americans and so do the rest of the grand slams...sometimes they do a trade but they only do that to benefit their players because it gives them a chance to compete and get experiance, and helps them get needed ranking points(if they do well) to help their ranking climb...that's why I would give the wildcard to agosnelli instead of neimeyer...although it would be a good farewell...a wildcard to the main draw would mean so much for agosnelli who needs experiance and shows he can do well under pressure(proven in davis cup). This wildcard would do so much to help him move up the rankings much quicker....they already have a wildcard given to an international...if ferrero wanted to compete he should have aquired a better ranking...and it doesn't matter what portugal does..that's their choice and I would say not a very good one(I like to rant too:D)

duong
07-31-2009, 09:32 AM
I also think that the WC given to some Canadian players in Montreal are unfair to the other players.

You cannot compare the WC given in slams because in slams, you have many more players directly entered (and both France and the USA have several players near to this direct entrance).

Here it's 56 players masters 1000, and it's much more difficult to enter ... and they give the WC to players ranked lower to 200, even 300 :rolleyes:

And of course beating them in the first round gives many ATP points :cool:

I think the Portugal's attitude for Estoril is remarkable :yeah:

ZackBusner
07-31-2009, 10:02 AM
I also think that the WC given to some Canadian players in Montreal are unfair to the other players.

You cannot compare the WC given in slams because in slams, you have many more players directly entered (and both France and the USA have several players near to this direct entrance).

Here it's 56 players masters 1000, and it's much more difficult to enter ... and they give the WC to players ranked lower to 200, even 300 :rolleyes:

And of course beating them in the first round gives many ATP points :cool:

I think the Portugal's attitude for Estoril is remarkable :yeah:

There is no other ATP event in Canada, so this is the only chance for the Canadian players to get a WC.

Volcanic Tennis
07-31-2009, 04:40 PM
Canadian fans would rather watch Canadian players than some random players you can think of giving WCs to :shrug:
People know more about Niemeyer and Dancevic here than they do, say, Ferrero, probably :shrug:

Blarghman
07-31-2009, 04:44 PM
I also think that the WC given to some Canadian players in Montreal are unfair to the other players.

You cannot compare the WC given in slams because in slams, you have many more players directly entered (and both France and the USA have several players near to this direct entrance).

Here it's 56 players masters 1000, and it's much more difficult to enter ... and they give the WC to players ranked lower to 200, even 300 :rolleyes:

And of course beating them in the first round gives many ATP points :cool:

I think the Portugal's attitude for Estoril is remarkable :yeah:

Maybe you're right and it's unfair to other players. Who cares? It's not Tennis Canada's job to be fair to all players, it's their job to support Canadian tennis by giving our players experience and chances to succeed. Plus, the crowds and media interest for the third WC, especially if it's Niemeyer, will probably be bigger than for any other player not in the tournament now, and that's the point of WCs.

Personally, I think Portugal's attitude is quite silly, but to each his own, I suppose :)

To get more the thread more back on track, I'd be quite surprised if the WC didn't go to Fred, at this point, after he's put on a solid show in Granby.

156mphserve
07-31-2009, 06:40 PM
yes, I think the wildcard will go the fred but the smart decision would be bruno or duclos

valexie03
08-01-2009, 12:15 AM
Since it's probably Fred's last Rogers Cup, I think he'll get it.

NyGeL
08-02-2009, 07:22 AM
after winning on Davis Cup, Agustinelli deserves the WC!

duong
08-02-2009, 08:24 PM
it's their job to support Canadian tennis by giving our players experience and chances to succeed.

I doubt that a MS1000 tournament is made to give such experience.

If it was a smaller ATP tournament I would understand but a MS1000 (except if it has 100 players like Indian Wells and Miami) is just too big for that :shrug:

That's what I think.

Besides, if Canadian people prefer Niemeyer than Ferrero, well :rolleyes:

T4L
08-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Hopefully Tsonga will be on a hot streak and go deep here.

Blarghman
08-03-2009, 05:53 PM
As expected, the last WC to Niemeyer

Story (http://www.tenniscanada.ca/tennis_canada/Pub/DisplayNewsStory.aspx?enc=7TT10l+gtcu0U+RSghuIq9NA QVLkVdlnTG6jst+8d10l5ZXVlpXcwQtsbcfUyTjw)

valexie03
08-04-2009, 07:40 PM
Federer has not confirmed his presence yet:awww: (source:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/nadal-ready-to-give-knees-a-test/article1240870/)

valexie03
08-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Mirka hasn't decided yet whether Federer will play in Montreal, according to the tournament director :baby: (source in French): http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/tennis/2009/08/05/001-federer-mercredi.shtml

walid1988
08-05-2009, 03:26 PM
they can give wild cards to canadian players for qualification,but to main draw!!!! wasted wild cards,any way ferrero deserve a wild card to play here and for sure he have more fans in canada than niemeyer!

kiwi10is
08-05-2009, 03:38 PM
Out: Montanes
IN: Almagro

does anyone know what's wrong with Montanes? I think he withdrew a lot lately

Truc
08-05-2009, 06:35 PM
I guess it's still the same knee injury which forced him to retire in the final of Scheveningen a few weeks ago.

KrisJB
08-06-2009, 08:41 AM
James Blake is out due to foot injury according to his official site. Hopes to be ready for Cincinnati.

dam0dred
08-06-2009, 01:30 PM
they can give wild cards to canadian players for qualification,but to main draw!!!! wasted wild cards,any way ferrero deserve a wild card to play here and for sure he have more fans in canada than niemeyer!

Ferrero's name gets him plenty of wildcards. If he had done anything of note in the past year, he probably would have recieved one. Look at Hewitt - he was injured but has played great lately, fans want to see him, so he got a wildcard. Ferrero is a washed up old has-been. By your logic I suppose they should have given wildcards to Gaudio and Moya as well? The tournament directors know what they are doing, and the Montreal fans will be very excited to see Fred.

Canada has one ATP event a year. Are you really so outraged they are giving 75% of the wildcards to Canadian players? Seriously, get over it.

mayagaller
08-06-2009, 02:01 PM
The tournament directors know what they are doing, and the Montreal fans will be very excited to see Fred.

I definitely will. Fred is a cool cat, love his serve. :cool:

I have no idea what's the big deal with Ferrero playing qualifying. Shouldn't kill him for sure. :shrug:

Doomach777
08-06-2009, 02:12 PM
and 4th wild card goes to ?

mr_burns
08-06-2009, 02:17 PM
why is santoro out?

Aenea
08-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Ferrero's name gets him plenty of wildcards. If he had done anything of note in the past year, he probably would have recieved one. Look at Hewitt - he was injured but has played great lately, fans want to see him, so he got a wildcard. Ferrero is a washed up old has-been. By your logic I suppose they should have given wildcards to Gaudio and Moya as well? The tournament directors know what they are doing, and the Montreal fans will be very excited to see Fred.

Canada has one ATP event a year. Are you really so outraged they are giving 75% of the wildcards to Canadian players? Seriously, get over it.

As if Hewitt isn't a "washed up old has-been" :rolleyes: What has he done lately? Won a MM title just like Ferrero did. They both are old has-beens who are trying to get back on track. I see no difference between the 2's results as of late. IMO they both should play Q and the WCs should be given to young and promising or local players.

Deboogle!.
08-06-2009, 02:52 PM
As if Hewitt isn't a "washed up old has-been" :rolleyes: What has he done lately? Won a MM title just like Ferrero did. They both are old has-beens who are trying to get back on track. I see no difference between the 2's results as of late. IMO they both should play Q and the WCs should be given to young and promising or local players.I may personally disagree, but Hewitt is a lot more famous and popular in North America than Ferrero is.

duong
08-06-2009, 03:04 PM
Look at Hewitt - he was injured but has played great lately, fans want to see him, so he got a wildcard. Ferrero is a washed up old has-been. By your logic I suppose they should have given wildcards to Gaudio and Moya as well?

I understand that Hewitt's name may be more popular,

but as for the recent results, Ferrero is exactly like Hewitt :

quarter-finalist in Wimbledon, won an ATP250,
and Ferrero is 20th in the Race, Hewitt is 21st, and both are round 16 in Washington.

Then no I don't understand that argument :shrug:

duong
08-06-2009, 03:13 PM
why is santoro out?

probably a choice as he's entered in New Haven.

kiwi10is
08-06-2009, 03:41 PM
Out: Ancic, Blake, Gasquet, Montanes, Nalbandian, Santoro and from ALT: Almagro, Becker, Seppi, Tipsarevic, Nieminen, Clement
IN: Zverev, Sela, Querrey, Serra, Petzschner, Hewitt
NEXT: Vasallo Arguello, Beck, Gicquel
One free wildcard since Hewitt got direct entry now...

Does anyone know why Gasquet doesn't want to play???

Volcanic Tennis
08-06-2009, 03:51 PM
:sad: I wanted to see Gasquet, Nieminen, Tipsarevic and Clement :sad:
And my mom will be crushed about Blake

mayagaller
08-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Hope Ferrero gets the WC now that Hewitt is in so some people can finally STFU.

:( about Gasquet...

valexie03
08-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Could Duclos get it now :confused:

ImmzB
08-06-2009, 04:06 PM
Gasquet!!

I read that Richard is training with Deblicker on his premisses in Aix-en Provence and working physically with Perotte.

Probaly not ready yet so should be back in Cincy and then New Haven if he gets the Wild-Card.

kiwi10is
08-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Gasquet!!

I read that Richard is training with Deblicker on his premisses in Aix-en Provence and working physically with Perotte.

Probaly not ready yet so should be back in Cincy and then New Haven if he gets the Wild-Card.

Thanks... still stange since he is not recovering from an injury :confused:

Doomach777
08-06-2009, 05:17 PM
is possible that ljubo wanna play this ?

Truc
08-06-2009, 05:26 PM
why is santoro out?He wanted to play Montreal first, but withdrew "for personal reasons".
As for Cincy, I don't think he ever intended to play there. He had already announced for a while that his next event would be New Heaven.

He's not injured - probably on vacation with his daughter like he always does lately during the summer.

kiwi10is
08-06-2009, 06:05 PM
is possible that ljubo wanna play this ?
he is 28th alternate and didn't enter the quali list... so I guess NO

Acasuso is out, too
Vassallo Arguello is in
Next: Gicquel

Doomach777
08-06-2009, 06:50 PM
he is 28th alternate and didn't enter the quali list... so I guess NO

Acasuso is out, too
Vassallo Arguello is in
Next: Gicquel

I was thinking about WC..

kiwi10is
08-06-2009, 07:06 PM
I was thinking about WC..
if he would have asked for a wildcard wouldn't he at least have entered the qualies since wildcards are given in the last minute sometimes... well anyway there is one free wildcard... maybe he is lucky

Doomach777
08-06-2009, 08:02 PM
if he would have asked for a wildcard wouldn't he at least have entered the qualies since wildcards are given in the last minute sometimes... well anyway there is one free wildcard... maybe he is lucky

ok.. but I think that he will not ask for it, casue he is in monaco and preparing for HC...But i hope he will :D

156mphserve
08-07-2009, 01:53 AM
bruno Agosnelli has been awarded the 4th wildcard that used to belong to Hewitt befor he got direct acceptance

http://www3.rogerscup.com/men/english/currentNews.php?id=AgostinelliRCWildcard

Doomach777
08-07-2009, 06:42 AM
looool....Bruno Agosnelli... never heard of him...
this tournament dont deserve title MS1000 for sure..

156mphserve
08-07-2009, 07:20 AM
he just came out of collage...played pretty well ther and saved Canda's butts in Davis Cup....I'm hoping he can be top 50 eventually

JMG
08-07-2009, 08:02 AM
Great WCs. :clap2:

duong
08-07-2009, 09:54 AM
Qualifying draw: Friday, August 7, 9:00 p.m.
Main draw: Friday, August 7, 3:00 p.m.

I wanted to be sure there's no mistake : they will draw the main draw before the qualifying draw ?

At 15.00 Canadian time ?

duong
08-07-2009, 12:07 PM
Thanks... still stange since he is not recovering from an injury :confused:

I wonder if Gasquet not coming back to Montreal, and apparently to Cinci according to the French media, will be suspended again :lol: according to the new ATP rule about missing an MS1000.

In that case he would be suspended for the MS1000 where he got his best results, which means Roma and probably Shanghai (he got his best result in Madrid, but Madrid's position is now taken by Shanghai in the calendar), maybe Indian Wells (3rd result).

kiwi10is
08-07-2009, 12:39 PM
I wonder if Gasquet not coming back to Montreal, and apparently to Cinci according to the French media, will be suspended again :lol: according to the new ATP rule about missing an MS1000.

In that case he would be suspended for the MS1000 where he got his best results, which means Roma and probably Shanghai (he got his best result in Madrid, but Madrid's position is now taken by Shanghai in the calendar), maybe Indian Wells (3rd result).

suspended for withdrawing because of being suspended again after suspension already ended... and on top of it because of a sandgrain amount of cocaine? This is becomming kind of weird. :confused:

duong
08-07-2009, 12:44 PM
suspended for withdrawing because of being suspended again after suspension already ended... and on top of it because of a sandgrain amount of cocaine? This is becomming kind of weird. :confused:

yes it has been weird for a long time :lol:

but why did you say "because of being suspended again" :confused:

he's not suspended again (yet at least :lol: )

duong
08-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Thanks to Rita in Federer's forum there's the confirmation that Federer will play :

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/tennis/2009/08/07/001-federer-vendredi.shtml

confirmed by phone one hour ago by Federer to Eugene Lapierre, director of the tournament

valexie03
08-07-2009, 01:26 PM
Thanks to Rita in Federer's forum there's the confirmation that Federer will play :

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/tennis/2009/08/07/001-federer-vendredi.shtml

confirmed by phone one hour ago by Federer to Eugene Lapierre, director of the tournament

It's front page news everywhere in MTL now :bounce::bounce::bounce: http://www.montrealgazette.com/

Truc
08-07-2009, 01:43 PM
suspended for withdrawing because of being suspended againHe's not suspended and he didn't withdraw because of the appeal of the ITF. He had never suggested he would play in Montreal anyway, all the news were saying that it would be very surprising, he hadn't practiced during the suspension and was out of shape, he still hadn't picked up a tennis racquet a couple of weeks after the decision, he would take his time, the goal was to be back for the USO, etc. etc.
I would have been very surprised to see him in Montreal already.

Truc
08-07-2009, 01:58 PM
Gonzalez in.

OUT: Acasuso, Ancic, Blake, Gasquet, Montanes, Nalbandian, Santoro (and Almagro, Becker, Seppi, Tipsarevic, Nieminen Clement, Vassallo-Arguello, A.Beck, Gicquel, C.Rochus, Moya from ALT)
IN: Zverev, Sela, Querrey, Serra, Petzschner, Hewitt, M.Gonzalez

TMJordan
08-07-2009, 02:00 PM
Will Isner get the SE if he wins his match today?

smucav
08-07-2009, 02:27 PM
Will Isner get the SE if he wins his match today?Yes. The other seven Washington quarterfinalists are top 11 seeds & were direct acceptances to Montreal.

duong
08-07-2009, 02:44 PM
Gonzalez in.

OUT: Acasuso, Ancic, Blake, Gasquet, Montanes, Nalbandian, Santoro (and Almagro, Becker, Seppi, Tipsarevic, Nieminen Clement, Vassallo-Arguello, A.Beck, Gicquel, C.Rochus, Moya from ALT)
IN: Zverev, Sela, Querrey, Serra, Petzschner, Hewitt, M.Gonzalez

you mean Vassallo-Arguello refused the entrance ?

Truc
08-07-2009, 03:21 PM
Yes, but so did Gonzalez.

OUT: Acasuso, Ancic, Blake, Gasquet, Montanes, Nalbandian, Santoro (and Almagro, Becker, Seppi, Tipsarevic, Nieminen Clement, Vassallo-Arguello, A.Beck, Gicquel, C.Rochus, Moya, M.Gonzalez, Bolelli from ALT)
IN: Zverev, Sela, Querrey, Serra, Petzschner, Hewitt, Mayer
NEXT: Lu, Fognini, Hernych, Monaco

kiwi10is
08-07-2009, 03:30 PM
Fish is out
Lu is in
next Fognini

valexie03
08-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Fish is out
Lu is in
next Fognini

Fognini is out of qualies. Decided not to travel to Mtl :confused:

Aenea
08-07-2009, 04:02 PM
:eek:

So many OUTs :rolleyes: When is Nalby coming back?

Ivanatis
08-07-2009, 04:17 PM
:eek:

So many OUTs :rolleyes: When is Nalby coming back?

next year

good to see Hewitt and Mayer in

chowdahead25
08-07-2009, 06:53 PM
At this rate, as like the fifth alternate, Janko would have become the freakin one seed in the main draw with all the withdrawals!

Lol, but really, lottttts of WDs.

Pepitorl
08-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Fognini is out of qualies. Decided not to travel to Mtl :confused:

So, Hernych is next... How many more for Ferrero?

decrepitude
08-07-2009, 08:23 PM
JCF is next after Hernych.

JeffCandoi
08-07-2009, 08:56 PM
Fognini is out of qualies. Decided not to travel to Mtl :confused:

challenger level player doenst like to play masters series event :p

Snowwy
08-08-2009, 01:48 AM
Amazing choice to give the WC to Bruno, what an easy frist round match for Peter :)

Winnipeg
08-08-2009, 01:58 AM
i just talked to duclos....he is very upset that he did not get that last WC...he says that he will do his mighty best and prove tennis canada wrong by qualifing...lets hope he does!!!

Emeraldhands
08-08-2009, 02:36 AM
Would it be possible for Bester to get a Special Exemption into the main draw if he wins tonight?
Because I see that on the Draw Sheet that in the Blank Spots it says Q/SE.

Blarghman
08-08-2009, 02:51 AM
Would it be possible for Bester to get a Special Exemption into the main draw if he wins tonight?
Because I see that on the Draw Sheet that in the Blank Spots it says Q/SE.

No, special exempts for a 1000 series event can only be a 1000 or 500 event. The SE spot is for Isner, should he win tonight. Plus Bester's down a set and a break :(

roberthenman
08-08-2009, 03:54 AM
Leo In the Draw :bounce:

Ad Wim
08-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Isner is IN with a SE, didn't know they gave it from 500 to 1000...

Ad Wim
08-10-2009, 05:53 PM
Seeing Niemeyer play now, it's just ridiculous that they gave him a WC. And he's freaking 33! Giving it to a young guy, fine, but this is terrible...

Ad Wim
08-10-2009, 06:42 PM
Haha, what a nonsense! This outcome doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous to give Niemeyer a WC. This organization is a disgrace.

Then again, it's pretty bad if Canadians have to rely on a guy like Niemeyer, 33 years old and ranked 400 in the world. 2 games against Federer, max!

Grobar
08-12-2009, 12:56 PM
You were really,really wrong :D