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bovenbuuf
08-25-2004, 06:00 PM
well its still uncertain if David plays at the US Open, but today was the draw.
in the first round he has to face Dennis van Scheppingen, Holland.

*Ljubica*
08-25-2004, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the info. but I'm afraid I'm not even thinking about this match until he walks out on that court and hits the first ball of the first round. People over on GM are already saying he will withdraw and "mess up" the draw...........and for once I'm not going to disagree with them or argue because I think they may be right :sad: David has withdrawn from too many tournaments at the very last minute this year - which is not only frustrating for his fans, but does cause loads of problems for his fellow players as they will have started preparing for one match and one opponent only to suddenly find it all changes again - I can understand why fans of other players are becoming bitter. Sorry to sound negative - but it's just the way I feel. If David walks out on that court to face van Scheppingen next week then no one will be happier than me - but I just have too many doubts.

Jennay
08-25-2004, 07:36 PM
I really hope David will play the USO. It has been so long since I've been able to see him play. :(

If he does, good luck to him! :bounce:

jazz_girl
08-25-2004, 07:45 PM
Well, to tell you the truth, I've been waiting for this tournament since last year but now I'm not even thinking about it. I even forgot today the draw was out!!!
Let's hope he's recovered and ready to play...

Raquel
08-25-2004, 07:55 PM
Good Luck David. Of course like everyone else, until he walks out on court then I am not thinking about it, but his draw is actually not bad. So IF he plays, he could do OK, but I just hope he can play.

Rosie I saw those people in GM talking about David messing up the draw but I just gave out a few bad reps rather than handle it maturely like you :lol:

Seriously though, please play here David!

bovenbuuf
08-25-2004, 08:49 PM
Thanks for the info. but I'm afraid I'm not even thinking about this match until he walks out on that court and hits the first ball of the first round. People over on GM are already saying he will withdraw and "mess up" the draw...........and for once I'm not going to disagree with them or argue because I think they may be right :sad: David has withdrawn from too many tournaments at the very last minute this year - which is not only frustrating for his fans, but does cause loads of problems for his fellow players as they will have started preparing for one match and one opponent only to suddenly find it all changes again - I can understand why fans of other players are becoming bitter. Sorry to sound negative - but it's just the way I feel. If David walks out on that court to face van Scheppingen next week then no one will be happier than me - but I just have too many doubts.


yes I know, its all so uncertain, not even some single news about he is feeling now, guess this means that the "contacts" between him and the press is still not really good, so well guess we just have to wait and see.. with he time difference I do think I hear it the next day if he made it to court and even hitted 1 ball.. But well lets hope he is feeling better and still sees a way to make it.

justClaudia
08-25-2004, 10:44 PM
Thanks for the info Boven.
I don't have a good feeling..but anything is possible,with an year like he had..nothing is a surprise to me anymore.

Let's have hope I guess...And be prepared for all that can happen.

*Ljubica*
08-26-2004, 05:26 AM
Good Luck David. Of course like everyone else, until he walks out on court then I am not thinking about it, but his draw is actually not bad. So IF he plays, he could do OK, but I just hope he can play.

Rosie I saw those people in GM talking about David messing up the draw but I just gave out a few bad reps rather than handle it maturely like you :lol:

Seriously though, please play here David!

Handing out a few bad reps can be a good way of relieving stress :p

sigmagirl91
08-26-2004, 11:03 AM
Handing out a few bad reps can be a good way of relieving stress :p

Or releasing my "inner bitch" sometimes..... :devil:

crigazzio
08-26-2004, 12:41 PM
Well, to tell you the truth, I've been waiting for this tournament since last year but now I'm not even thinking about it. I even forgot today the draw was out!!!
Let's hope he's recovered and ready to play...

I´m feeling the same....I´m not excating at all about this!!!!!

jazz_girl
08-26-2004, 02:18 PM
According to La Nación, David is fully recovered and will play in New York but we know how this is..maybe he breaks a nail at the last minute and won't show up ;)

bovenbuuf
08-26-2004, 02:34 PM
LOL! Well I do hope that this won't happen...but well I think I will wait before i show any excitement. It still far till monday or tuesday when he has to hit a ball.

jazz_girl
08-26-2004, 03:09 PM
Yeah, anaything can happen...

novanora
08-26-2004, 04:08 PM
David Nalbandian ARG (8)
v.
Dennis van Scheppingen NED

Albert Montanes ESP
v.
Mikhail Youzhny RUS





Jeff Morrison USA
v.
Qualifier

Tomas Berdych CZE
v.
Jonas Bjorkman SWE (32)



Juan Ignacio Chela ARG (17)
v.
Qualifier

Wayne Odesnik USA
v.
David Sanchez ESP





Tommy Haas GER
v.
Davide Sanguinetti ITA

Olivier Patience FRA
v.
Sebastien Grosjean FRA (12)



Fernando Gonzalez CHI (14)
v.
Robin Soderling SWE

Nikolay Davydenko RUS
v.
Mark Philippoussis AUS





Karol Beck SVK
v.
Thierry Ascione FRA

Kristian Pless DEN
v.
Gustavo Kuerten BRA (20)



Feliciano Lopez ESP (30)
v.
Arnaud Di Pasquale FRA

Qualifier
v.
Julien Benneteau FRA





Hicham Arazi MAR
v.
Kenneth Carlsen DEN

Wayne Ferreira RSA
v.
Lleyton Hewitt AUS (4)


ok, this is David's semi, compared with his former evil draw, now this time at least not tough first round again. but he could meet Youzhny again in the second round. well, as everything is uncertain, i'd better do not expect sth.

Besides, insterested to see some other first round: Roger vs Costa, Grandpa Todd vs Santoro, Andreev vs Verdasco, Andre will face American guy Genepri, Ferreira vs Hewitt, also roddick could meet one of Nadal and Blake in the second round. lot of fun.

Björki
08-26-2004, 07:42 PM
Hope David will play.
VAMOS!

justClaudia
08-26-2004, 11:13 PM
[QUOTE=jazz_girl..maybe he breaks a nail at the last minute and won't show up ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL Jazz!!

All we can do is hope that his nails are strong!!

jazz_girl
08-29-2004, 07:55 PM
It's out and David is not schdule to play tomorrow, so we have to wait a couple of more days to see him, if he plays.

bovenbuuf
08-29-2004, 08:02 PM
ah well we are so close now, lets wait some more....

Clara Bow
08-29-2004, 10:40 PM
Has anyone seen any pictures of him that were taken within the past month or so? I wonder if he has taken off some of the weight that he gained in the spring before his return to play that was cut short.

I think he looked fine with the extra weight, but I can't help to think that it may limit mobility so I hope that he has slimmed down a little.

sigmagirl91
08-29-2004, 10:43 PM
Me too, Clara. I want to see a ripped, buff, sexy David back on court again-and soon. I can't stand going through David-withdrawals every month. It's totally annoying.

jazz_girl
08-30-2004, 02:58 PM
I was watching ESPN and they showed David practising, and then they
made a little interview. They asked him how he was phisically and he
said that he's not at his best, and even the doctors adviced him not
to play, and that after this he could made his injury worse, but he
wants to give it a try...Then Guga approached him and gave him a hug,
he told something to David but I couldn't get it. David also said
that since he's not 100% ready phisically, he'll have to use his head
a lot more.
I don't know what you think, but I don't like him playing when he's
not ready.

*Ljubica*
08-30-2004, 06:58 PM
:devil: :devil: Seeing all the money I have spent on the European Tour in Autumn going down the drain :sad: No I think he is bloody stupid to attempt to play if he is not 100% fit - absolutely ridiculous.

landoud
08-31-2004, 10:46 AM
will david play today ?

sigmagirl91
08-31-2004, 10:48 AM
Yes, landoud, according to oop for today. Don't know what time though. If it's during the day, I won't be able to follow; if it's tonight, then I have to watch it later.

sigmagirl91
08-31-2004, 10:48 AM
I was watching ESPN and they showed David practising, and then they
made a little interview. They asked him how he was phisically and he
said that he's not at his best, and even the doctors adviced him not
to play, and that after this he could made his injury worse, but he
wants to give it a try...Then Guga approached him and gave him a hug,
he told something to David but I couldn't get it. David also said
that since he's not 100% ready phisically, he'll have to use his head
a lot more.
I don't know what you think, but I don't like him playing when he's
not ready.

I don't either. Sometimes, you do what you have to do to win-even if you are not 100%.

bovenbuuf
08-31-2004, 11:18 AM
Yes, landoud, according to oop for today. Don't know what time though. If it's during the day, I won't be able to follow; if it's tonight, then I have to watch it later.

are you really sure, I can't see his name or Van Scheppingen, I thought he has to play on wednesday...

jazz_girl
08-31-2004, 12:34 PM
David, Chela, Horna, Gonzalez and some other players will start playing tomorrow, so we have to wait one more day ;)

Raquel
08-31-2004, 01:40 PM
David, Chela, Horna, Gonzalez and some other players will start playing tomorrow, so we have to wait one more day ;)
Thanks Jazz :) I was on the US Open website looking at the schedule and when his name was not there I thought he had pulled out :o

Good Luck David tomorrow :yeah:

Jennay
08-31-2004, 10:51 PM
Good luck to David tomorrow! :D

novanora
09-01-2004, 03:56 AM
Today's OOP:

Court 11 11.00 AM Start

1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Olivier Patience (FRA)
vs. Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)[12]

followed by
2. Women's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Tatiana Golovin (FRA)[30]
vs. Akiko Morigami (JPN)

3. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
David Nalbandian (ARG)[8]
vs. Dennis van Scheppingen (NED)

4. Women's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Fabiola Zuluaga (COL)[23]
vs. Tathiana Garbin (ITA)


It's third in the court 11, i wonder if i can get up so early at around 4-5 am to follow it......

Clara Bow
09-01-2004, 05:11 AM
I have a dumb question- but why are fellows still playing in the first round on the third day of play. Is that usual?

*Ljubica*
09-01-2004, 05:20 AM
I have a dumb question- but why are fellows still playing in the first round on the third day of play. Is that usual?

You would have to ask the USTA Clara, as it is the only Grand Slam that does this and I don't have the definitive answer. If I was being cynical I would say it is probably something to do with TV ratings somewhere along the line, as US Open seems to be governed by these more than any other tournament, though to be honest I can't see why this should be. I have heard that they once asked the players about it though, and they all seemed happy with the present arrangement. Guess it is good for those needing extra time to prepare after injury (like David) or those like Hewitt who did well in the preceeding week's events, though later on in the week they must have to play two consecutive days somewhere to catch up which can't be good :confused:

jazz_girl
09-01-2004, 11:16 AM
Rosie, I don't think this is the only GS that does this, I remember this happening in another as well and not because of rain. They last for so long and have so many tournaments to play that it kind of make sense...

justClaudia
09-01-2004, 11:41 AM
I don't think it's the only either...but i agree that makes sense.
And it's good for David,to get extra time to recover..and also for Hewitt,who has been playing everywhere lately.
But at this point i have to agree with Rosie,i don't know if playing two matches in two consecutive days will be very good for any player...

All I really want right now is for David to go on court,and play....and if possible to win!!

*Ljubica*
09-01-2004, 11:48 AM
I've been going to Wimbledon and Roland Garros for years and it certainly isn't either of them unless rain has disrupted the first few days' schedule. And I don't recall the Australian doing it either. In fact there was a thread over on GM recently saying it was the only Grand Slam that did this.

justClaudia
09-01-2004, 11:57 AM
Well actually, if you get to think ,the only reason that could make any GS organisation to do that is only for the rain. And the delay that it causes...i think it's also been done here in Estoril,but yet cause of the rain.

So i don't see why USopen do it...that as to be cause of those TV contracts,like you said.

crigazzio
09-01-2004, 01:18 PM
The only thing that i want is that he plays great and more than anything that he´ll be 100% ok of the injury.......
I don´t care if he plays today, tomorrow or the next weelk ;) I just want that he never get another injury again!!!! I know...i know...is to much... :crazy:

joeb_uk
09-01-2004, 01:22 PM
very wierd to see 1st round matches still being played! after yesterday i didnt see nalbandians results so i thought he had withdrew (didnt know about the 3 day 1st round routine)

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-01-2004, 02:14 PM
very wierd to see 1st round matches still being played! after yesterday i didnt see nalbandians results so i thought he had withdrew (didnt know about the 3 day 1st round routine)

US Open is full of surprises, mostly bad.

Anyway, I just hope he can get through his match without any problems.

crigazzio
09-01-2004, 02:21 PM
very wierd to see 1st round matches still being played! after yesterday i didnt see nalbandians results so i thought he had withdrew (didnt know about the 3 day 1st round routine)

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! HE´LL PLAY TODAY!!!!!!!! HE´S IN THE OOP OF TODAY......
C´MON DAVID!!! :worship:

Raquel
09-01-2004, 02:41 PM
David is playing in Court 11 which is one of the courts televised by Sky Interactive in the UK :) The interactive feeds finish at midnight though. David is 3rd on so depending on the length of the matches on before, it should be finished before 12.

Good Luck David :bounce:

*Ljubica*
09-01-2004, 03:36 PM
David is playing in Court 11 which is one of the courts televised by Sky Interactive in the UK :) The interactive feeds finish at midnight though. David is 3rd on so depending on the length of the matches on before, it should be finished before 12.

Good Luck David :bounce:

Grosjean is currently a break up in the 1st set - just want him to get it over with in 3 straight sets followed by a very quick womens' match, or I'll never keep my eyes open!

joeb_uk
09-01-2004, 03:52 PM
without a doubt he will get on in time before 12 lol, but if we will get to see the full match i dont know. at least its not a mens, and then another mens match before

crigazzio
09-01-2004, 04:07 PM
Grosjean is currently a break up in the 1st set - just want him to get it over with in 3 straight sets followed by a very quick womens' match, or I'll never keep my eyes open!

Sorry Rose, but i want that David starts at 6 pm from here!!!!! Sorry, sorry, but i want to see him, but i guess that the good luck is not by my side right??? :(

joeb_uk
09-01-2004, 08:09 PM
hes on now, why did they put him on the crappy court 11? :D

Aleksa's Laydee
09-01-2004, 08:10 PM
good luck david...your doing well so far

heres some pics from his match :D

SuperFurryAnimal
09-01-2004, 08:37 PM
Court 11 is a graveyard. Ask Rainer! :tape:
Anyway, since I am Dutch I hope Dennis van Scheppingen will have a chance against Nalbandian... Though I think Nalbandian will win. Maybe a nice five-setter?? ;)

joeb_uk
09-01-2004, 08:42 PM
has the atmosphere of a grave yard lol, no one cheers.

Raquel
09-01-2004, 08:58 PM
David is now 6-4, 3-2 with a break. He was 0-2 and game point down in this set, so he has rallied back well.

How does everyone think he is looking? He looks to have lost some weight, or is it just me? Anyway things are going pretty well so far for his first match back. Keep going David :)

Jennay
09-01-2004, 09:12 PM
Keep going David! :D

Raquel, it looks to me he has lost a little bit of weight as well. Still needs to get rid of more though :D

Raquel
09-01-2004, 09:24 PM
David served for the second set and lost the serve now 5-5. He served for the first set at 5-2 as well. reminds me of the match against Youzhny a few weeks ago where he was up in the third and lost the match because he could not keep winning the serve games.

Come on David

Jennay
09-01-2004, 09:40 PM
Come on David! One more set! 6-4 7-6(5) :D

Raquel
09-01-2004, 10:31 PM
David won 6-4, 7-6, 6-3 :)

Well done David, great to see you back and good luck in round 2

justClaudia
09-01-2004, 10:38 PM
David won 6-4, 7-6, 6-3 :)

Well done David, great to see you back and good luck in round 2

Ok..i'm very happy for him!!

How long since the last time he wone something!!
Still he needs to loose some Kilos...and work hard on his serve.

But he won!! So..that can't be bad!!

jazz_girl
09-01-2004, 10:54 PM
Awful match! LMAO!!! I don't know how I didn't fall asleep. But I'm glad he won. Now, if he wants to beat Youzhny, he'll have to play MUCH better than he did today...

justClaudia
09-01-2004, 11:00 PM
He surely does Jazz...
Youzhny..hmmm..i don't know how David will handle it.
Very dificult..but well,let's see how it goes.

Gigan
09-02-2004, 12:25 AM
Hi Fans,
you could support David also in the US Open section:
~~~ David Nalbandian Cheering Thread ~~~~

http://temp.menstennisforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=210




Good luck David!!!




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sol
09-02-2004, 12:33 AM
Thanks, Gigan :D
Good luck to David against Misha :wavey:

novanora
09-02-2004, 05:05 AM
Awful match! LMAO!!! I don't know how I didn't fall asleep. But I'm glad he won. Now, if he wants to beat Youzhny, he'll have to play MUCH better than he did today...

after all he just come back to the court yet, and remember this is the first winning since 3 months ago, so we can't ask too much ;) i'm glad he has won it after my sleeping time, don't care if he can pass how many rounds, just don't injure again.

*Ljubica*
09-02-2004, 05:31 AM
after all he just come back to the court yet, and remember this is the first winning since 3 months ago, so we can't ask too much ;) i'm glad he has won it after my sleeping time, don't care if he can pass how many rounds, just don't injure again.

I'm glad and relieved he won too Nova - though it truly was an awful match :eek: . David will have to up his level a hell of a lot against Youzhny. Van Scheppingen was poor last night and gave him lots of chances that he won't get against another player. Still - so glad he won - now I'm off to work to see if I can last the day without falling asleep - I'm far too old to survive on 5 hours sleep!! :devil:

*Ljubica*
09-02-2004, 07:26 AM
In his Press Conference, David said he was very tired at the end of the match but that the thigh injury doesn't feel too bad. However, he was hampered in his movement by a cut on his big toe that he got on a running machine in the gym this week!! He knows he is not fully fit and not playing well and is just relieved that he won last night and hopes things will improve, though he doesn't seem to hold out too much hope of going much further in the competition. He is aware that getting back to full match fitness is a long job and must be taken patiently, one day at a time. There are also interviews in Clarins this morning, but I am at work so don't have time to translate them for you. Maybe Jazz can later.

Daniel
09-02-2004, 07:27 AM
:D :bounce: Good Luck :bounce: :D

bovenbuuf
09-02-2004, 08:16 AM
yes it was really a bad match, I think never saw so much the word "fault" .. Really hope he can do better against Youzhny.

jazz_girl
09-02-2004, 11:39 AM
Quote:
"It's still difficult for me to feel completly confortable moving in
the court, but I lack training and playing matches. I thought I was
gonna be much worse."
"I'm feeling better with time, but even being at my best I can't tell
you how far I wil get"

"Todavía me cuesta sentirme completamente cómodo en los
desplazamientos, pero me falta entrenarme y jugar más. Pensé que iba
a estar mucho peor"
"De a poco me voy sintiendo mejor, pero ni aun en la mejor forma se
puede decir adónde llegaré",

jazz_girl
09-02-2004, 11:51 AM
"I thought I was gonna be a lot worse and I felt quite well. I needed to win in three sets and I made it. It was good to move, to get the match rythm"
"Last monday I cut my toe on the right foot in an escalator. It bothers me a little to move in the court"
"I came here with the idea of playing and training to get fit. Today I gave my first exam and I passed it"
Then he talked about Youzhny: "He's very dangerous, especially in hard courts"
And on his last rival: "Luckily he gave me a lot of points"
"Pensé que iba a estar mucho peor y me sentí medianamente bien. Necesitaba ganar en tres sets y se dio. Sirvió para moverme, para ir buscando el ritmo de juego"
"El lunes me corté el dedo gordo del pie derecho en una escalera mecánica. Me molesta un poco para moverme en la cancha."
"Vine con la idea de jugar y entrenar para ponerme a punto. Hoy rendí mi primer examen y lo pasé con un aprobado"

justClaudia
09-02-2004, 12:27 PM
He even cut a toe!!
As if all his injuries weren't enough!!

2004 is definitely a year to forget!

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 12:29 PM
What's next, a nosebleed or a real bad cold? Yeah, this is a year to forget.

crigazzio
09-02-2004, 01:02 PM
Awful match! LMAO!!! I don't know how I didn't fall asleep. But I'm glad he won. Now, if he wants to beat Youzhny, he'll have to play MUCH better than he did today...
If he plays aggainst Youzny like he did yesterday.....bye bye USO :sad:
But we know David, he can make it!!!! :worship:

jazz_girl
09-02-2004, 01:11 PM
Apparently he was wearing his flip flops in the escaletors and somehow cut his toe! :rolleyes: And you laughed at my "break a nail joke" LOL

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 01:15 PM
Apparently he was wearing his flip flops in the escaletors and somehow cut his toe! :rolleyes: And you laughed at my "break a nail joke" LOL


LOL!!!! Who knew?

jazz_girl
09-02-2004, 01:26 PM
This is getting ridiculous...

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 01:30 PM
It is. If he has one more thing happen to him, I think I'll scream.
David, please stay injury-free, thank you.
Jazz, Michelle and I are in MSN, if you want to join us.

bibi_s
09-02-2004, 01:32 PM
i wonder if this has any relation with his emotional and mental state which is probably very unstable at the moment

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 01:39 PM
Bibi, it's interesting you brought that up. It's been mentioned many times, and I actually believe that his mental and emotional state are very fragile right now. He needs time to sort through his frazzled head and heart and try again next year.

crigazzio
09-02-2004, 02:10 PM
C´mon this are all the "gualichos" that Sofía did since he broke up with her!!!!!!!
We need a lot of "charmed" like the Haliwell girls to clean him form this!!!! :crazy:

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 02:27 PM
What's "gualichos"?

crigazzio
09-02-2004, 02:30 PM
whern you make some kind of magic to get something from another person.....you know what i mean???

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 02:36 PM
Oh, you're talking about putting roots on somebody. Oh, ok. She's pure evil, you know that, don't you?

crigazzio
09-02-2004, 04:49 PM
Oh, you're talking about putting roots on somebody. Oh, ok. She's pure evil, you know that, don't you?
I speak of when the witches they make witchcraft to obtain what they want in another person

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 05:35 PM
That's exactly what "putting roots" on a person means.

*Ljubica*
09-02-2004, 06:59 PM
That's exactly what "putting roots" on a person means.

I've never heard the expression "putting roots" either - it's amazing what you learn on MTF :p Here we would just say casting a spell, putting a "hex" on someone, or giving them "the evil eye" :devil: All means the same thing though!

rassklovn
09-02-2004, 07:02 PM
I've never heard the expression "putting roots" either - it's amazing what you learn on MTF :p Here we would just say casting a spell, putting a "hex" on someone, or giving them "the evil eye" :devil: All means the same thing though!

Yes, the MTF university what a place, by the way there is a rumour on GM about the whereabouts of GWH.

rassklovn
09-02-2004, 07:03 PM
Come on David, make a mark at this tournament and now Gaston is gone, you and Canas are the only Argentine representation.

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 07:52 PM
Yes, the MTF university what a place, by the way there is a rumour on GM about the whereabouts of GWH.

Really? I wonder where they say he is now.

sigmagirl91
09-02-2004, 07:53 PM
I've never heard the expression "putting roots" either - it's amazing what you learn on MTF :p Here we would just say casting a spell, putting a "hex" on someone, or giving them "the evil eye" :devil: All means the same thing though!

Yeah, "putting roots" or "working roots" on someone means putting a spell or a hex on a person. That phrase is Southern lore actually.

novanora
09-03-2004, 03:48 AM
Today's OOP

Armstrong 11.00 AM Start

1. Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
Tommy Haas (GER)
vs. Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)[12]

followed by
2. Women's Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Patty Schnyder (SUI)[15]
vs. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)

3. Women's Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Francesca Schiavone (ITA)[16]
vs. Angela Haynes (USA)

4. Men's Singles - 2nd Rnd.
David Nalbandian (ARG)[8]
vs. Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)

it's the forth in Armstrong, and estimated to be Saturday morning for me here, guess i can watch it live this time. ;) cheer up, david!

bovenbuuf
09-03-2004, 09:40 AM
well it will probably be to late for me.. so no David live on telly here.

*Ljubica*
09-03-2004, 11:13 AM
well it will probably be to late for me.. so no David live on telly here.

Same here. BBC interractive hardly ever show 4th match on court because it won't finish before the coverage ends at mid-night :sad: And I'll never keep awake in front of live scoring at that time of night (or should I say tomorrow morning for us?) Damn typical - first time David gets a proper showcourt and I won't be able to see it :sad:

crigazzio
09-03-2004, 12:23 PM
Sorry girls!!!!!! I know what is like........
But you can see the live score and be online on msn with us, that´s more easy stay wake......

Good morning, afternooon or night in the whole world ;)

bovenbuuf
09-03-2004, 12:25 PM
Damn typical - first time David gets a proper showcourt and I won't be able to see it :sad:

well then lets hope David plays a proper match without us then.

bovenbuuf
09-03-2004, 12:29 PM
Sorry girls!!!!!! I know what is like........
But you can see the live score and be online on msn with us, that´s more easy stay wake......

Good morning, afternooon or night in the whole world ;)

Thanks C, but what Rosie and I are saying is that its to late.We both got up very early, and I am sure that Rosie was even earlier then me :p .So its to hard to keep our eyes open if the matches before David are really long. And well I have to get up very early again tomorrow, so David is just to late.

sigmagirl91
09-03-2004, 12:33 PM
well then lets hope David plays a proper match without us then.

What's a proper match for David? I mean, one without the need for gin and tonic (or alcohol of any kind), chocolate, or throwing various projectiles at the TV, or cursing him out on MSN?

jazz_girl
09-03-2004, 12:34 PM
I hope he plays really late, otherwise I won't be able to see him :(

sigmagirl91
09-03-2004, 12:42 PM
I hope he plays really late, otherwise I won't be able to see him :(

Maybe 4 or 5 this afternoon, is what I have him at. Now, do you have classes today, jazz?

crigazzio
09-03-2004, 12:53 PM
I hope he plays really late, otherwise I won't be able to see him :(

I hope so too Jazz, but i guess that Groajean/Haas can help us a little, right???Please?!?!?!? :p

*Ljubica*
09-03-2004, 01:26 PM
What's a proper match for David? I mean, one without the need for gin and tonic (or alcohol of any kind), chocolate, or throwing various projectiles at the TV, or cursing him out on MSN?

Actually I like the gin and the chocolate, but it would be nice to enjoy a match for once instead of the throwing and the cursing :p Mind you - as bovenbuuf says, it will be too late for us anyway, and we will be in sweet dreamland when he plays - which is probably a much better place to be :)

jazz_girl
09-03-2004, 01:47 PM
Maybe 4 or 5 this afternoon, is what I have him at. Now, do you have classes today, jazz?
Yeah, I have classes till 6:30 pm :(

jazz_girl
09-03-2004, 01:49 PM
I hope so too Jazz, but i guess that Groajean/Haas can help us a little, right???Please?!?!?!? :p
I hope so!!!! And let's hope Haas wins in the fifth set after a 24-26 tie break LOL

bovenbuuf
09-03-2004, 06:03 PM
Actually I like the gin and the chocolate, but it would be nice to enjoy a match for once instead of the throwing and the cursing :p Mind you - as bovenbuuf says, it will be too late for us anyway, and we will be in sweet dreamland when he plays - which is probably a much better place to be :)

Rosie, why don't we both not just dream that David wins the match against Youzhny, and then just see that our dreams came true when we see the result in the morning :)

bovenbuuf
09-03-2004, 06:08 PM
What's a proper match for David? I mean, one without the need for gin and tonic (or alcohol of any kind), chocolate, or throwing various projectiles at the TV, or cursing him out on MSN?
No guess that is a match were he showest his good serve and backhand. And well he still is according to the Eurosport expert the outsider for winning the title here at the USO. but not sure if that was based on the match against Dennis ;), the expert did say it in the 3th set....

Besides I think that if we didn't had the gin, chocolate or the MSN every match would be boring, how well he plays ;) It really makes the match more intesting :p

bovenbuuf
09-03-2004, 06:10 PM
I hope so!!!! And let's hope Haas wins in the fifth set after a 24-26 tie break LOL

sorry Jime, he just won in just 4 sets...

*Ljubica*
09-03-2004, 06:55 PM
Well Sky Sports have just said we won't see David because it will start too late for our coverage :sad: - so he will have to win without any European support today :sad:

*Ljubica*
09-03-2004, 08:54 PM
Well - all I can say is that somebody somewhere must love me......because Hewitt's match was over so quickly, they have moved the womens' match scheduled before David onto the main court, and David will now play next. And this of course means, it is before 9.30pm and Sky TV will show the match live. I am really happy even though I am sure he will lose. Hope everyone else gets to see it too. :)

landoud
09-03-2004, 09:08 PM
he is on court now
GOOOOD LUCK

landoud
09-03-2004, 09:10 PM
VERY bad start.... 2-0

joeb_uk
09-03-2004, 10:03 PM
won the first set :D 76

Jennay
09-03-2004, 10:15 PM
Nice :D Lets go David, keep it up! :banana:

joeb_uk
09-04-2004, 01:09 AM
david :( :( :(

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 01:21 AM
Well, he could have won this match, but he didn't take advantage of
it. A real shame, but after playing 4 hours he seemed more
confortable in court and he's getting into the rythm of it. It looked
like his right foot was bothering him in a part of the match but it
didn't seem anything serious. Anyway, I think he's out of the top ten
after this, but it doesn't matter, as long as he didn't get injured
out there.
He should control his temper as well, I'm sure he's gonna have to pay
a fine, like Massu did and I don't understan how he didn't get
disqualified, but whatever.
Good luck in beijing David!

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 02:03 AM
Yeah, he could have won that match, you're right. And it's true, Youzhny played with his head, didn't lose control of the situation, knew how to handle the crowd, we should give him credit for it.

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 02:04 AM
Ok, there was a message there by sol, I'm not crazy, I'm not talking to myself LOL

novanora
09-04-2004, 02:04 AM
well, jazz, i follow the livescore of whole match, so sad and a pity that he lost.:sad: :sad::sad:he has really good chance to win it in the last set, when he is leading 40-0 in Youzhny's serving. i don't care if he can be in top 10 or not, but 5 set match could be hard on his body, i hope the new injury won't appear again, and the old ones won't worsen.
as to his temper, think it has been an old question, just depend on different people, some one should release themselves, otherwise could be worse, but saying sth bad to the umpire, that is going too far. i mean, if he think the linecall is not fair or some problem, just shout to release the bad mood, but don't argue with the umpire, it's no use and even throwing a racquet will be better than that.
I wonder if he will come to Beijing or not, maybe can get a rest and calm down, let every unhappy thing like Olympics pass out, but whatever, i will always cheer for him.

novanora
09-04-2004, 02:06 AM
Ok, there was a message there by sol, I'm not crazy, I'm not talking to myself LOL
jazz, you are talking to me also ;)

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 02:07 AM
He did it all actually, throw the raquet, yell, insult the umpire... He got 2 or 3 warnings, he was taken off a point, and he wasn't disqualified because the umpire was too nice.
I don't want to justify his behaviour, but he was right about the line calls, several times...

sol
09-04-2004, 02:09 AM
:eek: I can’t believe this :o. His first match was terrible and David paid for that today. :mad: Anybody can’t win playing badly, either if don't take advantage of so many opportunities. David lost his second match in row against Misha :sad:, being the root of those defeats:mad:. However we’ve to give credit to Misha. :) Misha was so tired and tanking in the 4th set; the one also had to be assisted for the trainer. :confused: In the last set, David had 3 bps in 0-40* and allowed Misha to save all them, and then failed on his own serve to be broken losing two straight games and the match. :mad: :mad:

novanora
09-04-2004, 02:17 AM
He did it all actually, throw the raquet, yell, insult the umpire... He got 2 or 3 warnings, he was taken off a point, and he wasn't disqualified because the umpire was too nice.
I don't want to justify his behaviour, but he was right about the line calls, several times...

yes, his behavior should not be justified, but sometimes, if you think sth is unfair to u, and feel depressed, you need to release the bad mood, otherwise could be worse. i don't want to advocate throwing racquet or sth, but i can understand why Safin throw his racquet once and once again. think david also know his behavior is not right, but can't stop it.
and the noisy enviroment, mistakes of umpire, that's the same to almost every player, the only thing you can do is to adapt it. arguing is useless...but worse at all.

novanora
09-04-2004, 02:23 AM
: In the last set, David had 3 bps in 0-40* and allowed Misha to save all them, and then failed on his own serve to be broken losing two straight games and the match. :mad: :mad:
it's terrible, when he has this 3 bps, there's great hope to win the whole, but like AO againt Roger (also 3 bp, but lost the next 4 points), once he lose it, the next important games also bumped him, and then lost the whole match. really pity.

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 02:26 AM
I think his bad mood also had a lot to do with his inactivity. He started making a lot of mistakes and not playing confortable. It must be hard for him, especially after all the bad press he's been having. He had a lot at stake here and wanted to win.

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 02:27 AM
According to Javier Frana, the umpire's bad line calls cost David 4 points. And it was shown on tv and by the computer that David was right. Two of those four were very important and could have turned thing all around.

novanora
09-04-2004, 02:37 AM
I think his bad mood also had a lot to do with his inactivity. He started making a lot of mistakes and not playing confortable. It must be hard for him, especially after all the bad press he's been having. He had a lot at stake here and wanted to win.
poor david, :sad: it's not good to see he plays the GS without any warming up, without enough preparation, but with the bad mood and not cured injury.

According to Javier Frana, the umpire's bad line calls cost David 4 points. And it was shown on tv and by the computer that David was right. Two of those four were very important and could have turned thing all around.
such a tragedy, but it's not the first time to him yet :sad:

BTW, the duckboy is also complaining on my TV now.....

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 02:43 AM
Yeah, and Roddick is also right, the umpires suck!!! I think they need glasses NOW!!! This is not the american favoritism anymore, I think they want protagonism...

Jennay
09-04-2004, 03:26 AM
Too bad for David :tears: He had 0-40 at 4-3 but couldn't convert :(
Hopefully he can stay injury-free and get back in shape.

*Ljubica*
09-04-2004, 06:29 AM
OK - I am going to say this here quite openly - I don't care whether the calls were right or wrong - David's behaviour was despicable and I am disappointed in him. I am always calling Roddick for behaving badly so it would be hypocritical of me not to say the same thing about David. Yes - some of the calls were wrong, but he got an awful lot of luck with net-cords in the first two sets and these things normally do even out. I am sorry he lost of course, - but he really needs to grow up and shut up when it comes to shouting/swearing/throwing racquets etc - he is very lucky he didn't get disqualified. Sorry to sound angry but that is what 4 hours sleep does for me - now I have to go to work for a morning's overtime :devil:

Daniel
09-04-2004, 08:20 AM
David :sad:

mardinda
09-04-2004, 09:43 AM
I haven't see the game :sad: it's to bad he lost :sad: I hope he comes back maybe in his next tourment, and I think is very angry because he knows that he is not playing right! so go david :woohoo:

joeb_uk
09-04-2004, 12:53 PM
massu got fined, do you think david will be next?

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 12:58 PM
Yeah, I think so. The umpire told him that he should behave, especially cause he was in an important court, he won't get away with this.

TennisLurker
09-04-2004, 05:33 PM
OK - I am going to say this here quite openly - I don't care whether the calls were right or wrong - David's behaviour was despicable and I am disappointed in him. I am always calling Roddick for behaving badly so it would be hypocritical of me not to say the same thing about David. Yes - some of the calls were wrong, but he got an awful lot of luck with net-cords in the first two sets and these things normally do even out. I am sorry he lost of course, - but he really needs to grow up and shut up when it comes to shouting/swearing/throwing racquets etc - he is very lucky he didn't get disqualified. Sorry to sound angry but that is what 4 hours sleep does for me - now I have to go to work for a morning's overtime :devil:

:worship:

I agree, I was not very sad when he lost because he was being a jerk, Massu's attitude made me cheer for sargsian 2 days ago, yesterday I was almost cheering for youzhny.
I really dont like that kind of irascible behavoir, sometimes I even switch channels to avoid watching it because it kinda mkes me feel ashamed.

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 07:49 PM
I changed the channel a few times myself...

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-04-2004, 07:59 PM
David needs to pull his head in, and seriously address some fitness and other issues. I remember reading a Wilander interview and he said "It's very important to be happy off the court, because if not it will affect your performances."

Me thinks David just proved that true.

landoud
09-04-2004, 08:53 PM
look @ the bright side guys.... at least he finished the match in 5 sets 4h... he got some of his fittness back after a very long time not playing.... i think that was a good thing that he is off the us open just to give him a chance to be 100% fit then he would be able to beat anyone.. i'm sure
so GOOD LUCK DAVE

jazz_girl
09-04-2004, 09:07 PM
David needs to pull his head in, and seriously address some fitness and other issues. I remember reading a Wilander interview and he said "It's very important to be happy off the court, because if not it will affect your performances."

Me thinks David just proved that true.
Yeah, you're right about this. His life's a total mess right now, once he has order in his life he'll get back on track in his professional life.

*Ljubica*
09-05-2004, 11:07 AM
:worship:

I agree, I was not very sad when he lost because he was being a jerk, Massu's attitude made me cheer for sargsian 2 days ago, yesterday I was almost cheering for youzhny.
I really dont like that kind of irascible behavoir, sometimes I even switch channels to avoid watching it because it kinda mkes me feel ashamed.

Trouble is I didn't have any options to change to at 3.00am! I agree - it made to feel ashamed too - and also very sad. I watched the Moya v Rochus match last night, and I was struck by how gracious and well-mannered Carlos Moya was at the end of what must have been a devastating defeat for him - as I watched it, I thought of David and wished that he could have behaved one quarter as well as Moya did. As Marc says, David obviously does have problems in his personal life that need addressing and are hampering his ability to focus on his tennis. He is a young guy - he still has a lot of growing up and maturing to do, and it's always difficult to do that in the public eye. Hope the end of the year and 2005 will be better for him.

jazz_girl
09-05-2004, 12:46 PM
Moya is always an amazing guy! I couldn't see his match, but I'm not surprised he acted like a gentelman.

sigmagirl91
09-06-2004, 02:32 AM
Trouble is I didn't have any options to change to at 3.00am! I agree - it made to feel ashamed too - and also very sad. I watched the Moya v Rochus match last night, and I was struck by how gracious and well-mannered Carlos Moya was at the end of what must have been a devastating defeat for him - as I watched it, I thought of David and wished that he could have behaved one quarter as well as Moya did. As Marc says, David obviously does have problems in his personal life that need addressing and are hampering his ability to focus on his tennis. He is a young guy - he still has a lot of growing up and maturing to do, and it's always difficult to do that in the public eye. Hope the end of the year and 2005 will be better for him.

Rosie, why am I not surprised that he lost this match?
Several things here (and you can say what you want here):

David could beat a player like Youzhny in his sleep a year ago. What happened? Let me throw a theory or two out there, if I might. His personal life is a complete shambles. What, with an ex-girlfriend trashing him to the press and divulging every detail when and how she can, it's small wonder if he hasn't had a nervous breakdown. One can see why the press is his worst enemy now.

Which brings me to my next point. He needs to learn to deal with the press more effectively. I don't think that he's mastered this aspect of his career yet. If he's willing to listen and take notes, then I think his learning curve in this area will be shorter. He makes it harder on himself with his emotional ups-and-downs, which should, in my opinion, be addressed with someone close to him rather than a sports psychologist.

I think his latest difficulties may be more attributed to things going on off-court than on. His body and mind are still maturing, and he may be feeling confused at all the changes going on. He seriously needs help in dealing with it all. His older brothers can help him successfully navigate this part of his life. Then again, he may have attention deficit disorder(don't get mad; I'm just throwing it out there). Those are just a host of things.

Yes, I'm just as shocked and appalled at his behavior, and I cannot and will not excuse it in any way. I do think that he needs to take the rest of the year off, and get his head together. Some time away from the hustle and bustle of the circuit and away from the media hell that he's been the unfortunate victim of will go a long way to restoring his peace of mind.

Please, David, for us, please take the rest of the year off. You seriously need this time to regroup. We will understand completely if you did that. We'd really much rather have a fresh, rejuvenated David back for 05 than an emotionally ravaged one trying to qualify for the Masters in 04.

*Ljubica*
09-06-2004, 05:31 AM
I agree a lot with what you are saying Sigma - though of course from my own personal point of view, I don't want him to take the rest of the year off as it will totally mess up my plans to go to Paris and Madrid :) Actually, - looking back at the year so far - I think coming to Europe will do him good, as his best results by far have come over here - final in Rome, semis at Roland Garros, and quarters in Monte Carlo and Barcelona. I think it will do him good to play in some much smaller tournaments here like Basel and Vienna where the media hype and the spotlight will be less, and where the pace of life is much slower than in the US. He adores Basel and always does well there, and he will feel at home in Madrid because of the language and the fact that he has friends there. He always gets really good crowd support here in Europe too which will help his confidence. Also, the fact that he didn't play Madrid or Paris last year means he can pick up some easy points, which will help consolidate a decent seeding place for the start of next year - maybe 14 or 15 instead or 20 or below. Just my thoughts anyway.

By the way - as we expected - David was fined for his behaviour at the US Open. He was fined a total of 3,250 dollars - 1,000 dollars for his language during the van Scheppingen match, two amounts of 500 and 750 for breaking his racquets during the Youzhny match, and a further 1,000 dollars for verbal abuse during the Youzhny match.

bovenbuuf
09-06-2004, 08:12 AM
I agree with you Rose, going to Europe would be nice, and like you said, less pressure here.. it are the European favs who get more media time here. And well if I am correct he is now standing 14 or so, with now 2 Master series coming up, and winning some points he can still have a nice seeding. And well not only that, he did seemed to do a little bit better then before, exept the attitude, so he could get some match rithm back and at least make some nice result for the end of the year, so that it doesn't seem that after RG it was all wasted time.... that you can still have some positive feelings about 2004

bovenbuuf
09-06-2004, 08:15 AM
By the way - as we expected - David was fined for his behaviour at the US Open. He was fined a total of 3,250 dollars - 1,000 dollars for his language during the van Scheppingen match, two amounts of 500 and 750 for breaking his racquets during the Youzhny match, and a further 1,000 dollars for verbal abuse during the Youzhny match.
well its all fair.. he did deserve that. Wonder if it helps..

sigmagirl91
09-06-2004, 08:18 AM
By the way - as we expected - David was fined for his behaviour at the US Open. He was fined a total of 3,250 dollars - 1,000 dollars for his language during the van Scheppingen match, two amounts of 500 and 750 for breaking his racquets during the Youzhny match, and a further 1,000 dollars for verbal abuse during the Youzhny match.

Are you sure it wasn't more? I thought that it would approach the 10K mark. Oh, well, he needs to get himself together and stop this.

Zetlandsk
09-06-2004, 08:31 AM
David needs to pull his head in, and seriously address some fitness and other issues. I remember reading a Wilander interview and he said "It's very important to be happy off the court, because if not it will affect your performances."

Me thinks David just proved that true.

Yes, the Wilander comment is very true and obviously all the crap is affecting him. The attitude to press really isn't that important, he needs very good people around him, when the press ask a stupid question, give them a stupid answer.

jazz_girl
09-06-2004, 01:33 PM
I don't think he'll take the rest of the year off, even though he should. He went to the US Open, even though the doctors told him not to, and with thi fine and the way he lost he will want to get revenge and prove the world wrong cause right now he feels everyone is against him, and the thing is that they only one that's against him is himself. Maybe going to China will do him good, especially cause there aren't so many important players there and might be able to do a good tournament.

*Ljubica*
09-06-2004, 01:40 PM
I don't think he'll take the rest of the year off, even though he should. He went to the US Open, even though the doctors told him not to, and with thi fine and the way he lost he will want to get revenge and prove the world wrong cause right now he feels everyone is against him, and the thing is that they only one that's against him is himself. Maybe going to China will do him good, especially cause there aren't so many important players there and might be able to do a good tournament.

I'm not so sure China is a good idea as it is very long, exhausting journey and it does have a very good field of top quality players, but certainly places like Vienna which have a smaller field are a good place to start.

bovenbuuf
09-06-2004, 01:51 PM
I think Jazz is right, he wants to go to China and the European tournements to prove they were all wrong, that he can do it.

but well China will be tough, Moya‚ Ferrero‚ Schuttler‚ Safin and T. Johanson.. and I think they all are already out for USO so all get enough rest for the China open..

jazz_girl
09-06-2004, 01:55 PM
If he decides to go to Vienna he'll have to ask for a WC and for some reason I don't see him doing that...Anyway, here's an article I translated:
The polemic goes on: David Nalbandian, who added 3.250 in fine for
faults against the umpire, said that "we get punished for a lot of
thing and other for nothing. There's no use in complaining: The ATP
doesn't act". Ferrero said that "with some you say very easily 'code
violation' and with others no so much here in the USA". Yesterday,
Andy Roddick replied: "If we get benefited so much, the how is it
possible that there's only two American left?"

Sigue la polémica: David Nalbandian, quien sumó 3.250 dó-

lares de multa por faltas contra el árbitro, dijo que "nos castigan
por muchas cosas y a otros por nada. No sirve quejarse: la ATP no
actúa". Ferrero dijo que "con algunos se dice muy
fácilmente ''violación del código'' y con otros no tanto aquí en
EE.UU.". Ayer, Roddick salió al cruce: "Si nos benefician, ¿cómo es
que quedamos dos locales en carrera?".

rassklovn
09-06-2004, 01:58 PM
jazz, David is on the Entry list for Vienna, check out the tournament thread, so there is no problem him playing there.

Typical Roddick is all I can say.

jazz_girl
09-06-2004, 02:02 PM
He is? Wow, he never mentioned this before. He was asked a few months ago in which tournaments he will participate and he said: TMS Paris and Madrid, Basel and Beijing, he never mentioned Vienna. But I guess is a good idea if he's up to it...

sigmagirl91
09-06-2004, 02:06 PM
I don't think he'll take the rest of the year off, even though he should. He went to the US Open, even though the doctors told him not to, and with thi fine and the way he lost he will want to get revenge and prove the world wrong cause right now he feels everyone is against him, and the thing is that they only one that's against him is himself. Maybe going to China will do him good, especially cause there aren't so many important players there and might be able to do a good tournament.

Yeah, he does exude that "me against the world" vibe, which is always dangerous.

Again, I don't know if he's in a self-discovery phase, but it's got to be frustrating for him whatever he's going through. I look at him, and see that the smile (he has the most gorgeous smile) is gone; even the hunger and competitiveness are gone. That's scaring me, guys, and I hope that he can turn it around.

rassklovn
09-06-2004, 02:11 PM
Yeah, he does exude that "me against the world" vibe, which is always dangerous.

It worked for Connors and Muster, and it can work for David, but the outside life is affecting him a lot and that's not going to help his tennis.

Again, I don't know if he's in a self-discovery phase, but it's got to be frustrating for him whatever he's going through. I look at him, and see that the smile (he has the most gorgeous smile) is gone; even the hunger and competitiveness are gone. That's scaring me, guys, and I hope that he can turn it around.

If he wants to turn it around he can, these are the moments where people learn most about themselves and he can turn it around. Look at Gaudio, this guy was hugely depressed at the start of the year, and almost retired because he hated playing tennis and later on, we know the result.

Time to ask some serious questions, and David might not like the answers, but if he wants to improve his situation, then he has to take the steps.

bovenbuuf
09-06-2004, 02:16 PM
He is? Wow, he never mentioned this before. He was asked a few months ago in which tournaments he will participate and he said: TMS Paris and Madrid, Basel and Beijing, he never mentioned Vienna. But I guess is a good idea if he's up to it...

well sometimes you get a little bit older, and you forget things :p

bovenbuuf
09-06-2004, 02:19 PM
Yesterday, Andy Roddick replied: "If we get benefited so much, the how is it possible that there's only two American left?"
I'm not seeing a real link I guess.. what has a fine to do with how much Americans are left in the tournement, because David and JCF are making commands on the fine... thought you just have to look which players do get fines and which players aren't.

jazz_girl
09-06-2004, 02:27 PM
Did Ferrero get a fine as well?

rassklovn
09-06-2004, 02:33 PM
Yes, Ferrero got a fine. I just found an old press conference with David, I didn't realise how funny and lack of bullshit he took from the press on the stupid journalist thread on GM.

sigmagirl91
09-06-2004, 02:46 PM
It worked for Connors and Muster, and it can work for David, but the outside life is affecting him a lot and that's not going to help his tennis.

Exactly. Which is why I think he should abandon the race to Houston to devote the needed mental and emotional energy to addressing those issues first before he can consider competing out there on the court.



If he wants to turn it around he can, these are the moments where people learn most about themselves and he can turn it around. Look at Gaudio, this guy was hugely depressed at the start of the year, and almost retired because he hated playing tennis and later on, we know the result.

Yes, David can turn it around. It's going to take a huge commitment on his part, and right now is the time to do it. If he fails to address the problems now, they will become more urgent as time passes.

Time to ask some serious questions, and David might not like the answers, but if he wants to improve his situation, then he has to take the steps.

He may not like the answers-hell, he may not like the questions-but in order to move on and deal better with things, he must face the music-even the sour notes.

sigmagirl91
09-06-2004, 02:51 PM
Yes, Ferrero got a fine. I just found an old press conference with David, I didn't realise how funny and lack of bullshit he took from the press on the stupid journalist thread on GM.

Maybe that's his character-his total lack of duplicity-that the journalists are stumped on.

rassklovn
09-06-2004, 02:52 PM
Maybe that's his character-his total lack of duplicity-that the journalists are stumped on.

As long as he is good to the fans, most of the journalists are morons and can get lost.

sigmagirl91
09-06-2004, 02:53 PM
As long as he is good to the fans, most of the journalists are morons and can get lost.

I agree.

jazz_girl
09-07-2004, 02:27 PM
Hi guys!
There's a very interesting interview with Gil Reyes in La Nación, and
there he talks mainly about Coria, and how much he respects him, he
talked about Agassi and what were his problems and why he got injured
so much at the begining of his career, and he also mentioned that he talks to David very often. I
hope he can give David some good advices...