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Kiwi @ the US Open

RodFan08
08-23-2004, 05:35 PM
I'm new here and have wondered why we don't have a different threads for each of Nicolas' tournaments. So I hope this will be the first of many tournament threads for Kiefer.

The US Open is just a week away & I was curious to know how u think Kiwi will do, knowing what happened in Athens. He'll recover from that marathon doubles match physically, but mentally,do u think that will have an affect on him. I personally don't think it will. Yeah it's heartbreaking to lose in such a fation, but first of all that was doubles and I think Kiwi & his coach will be prepared for the Open. What do u think?

We can also talk about who might be going to the Open, Hopefully u some of u will be able to go & see Nico. I cant :(

And of course when the draw the draw comes out, there will be even more to disgus(can't spell).

Neely
08-24-2004, 10:36 AM
He'll recover from that marathon doubles match physically, but mentally,do u think that will have an affect on him. I personally don't think it will. Yeah it's heartbreaking to lose in such a fation, but first of all that was doubles and I think Kiwi & his coach will be prepared for the Open. What do u think?
I hope you're right with this, but I think it's very dificult to predict how he gets over it. I hope that his words on his homepage are honest: he is already able to see the positive things and decribes the US Open as his next goal.

He left today morning to New York, I hope he had a good flight and has a good time there practising ;)

RodFan08
08-24-2004, 01:04 PM
I hope you're right with this, but I think it's very dificult to predict how he gets over it. I hope that his words on his homepage are honest: he is already able to see the positive things and decribes the US Open as his next goal.

He left today morning to New York, I hope he had a good flight and has a good time there practising ;)

How do know he left today? I hope he has a good time practicing for the Open :) Can u give me his homepage url, I'll put it on my favorites. Nico should only focus on the summer season he has had. All he has to remember is how he got on this role that he did this summer. Getting to 4 finals(I think) in one year is great & he should feel confident. I'd be surprised if he wasn't.

athie
08-24-2004, 06:20 PM
kiwi homepage (http://www.xx-ion.de/nicolas-kiefer/). There you go bkm08.

URGH Neely I feel terrible and so sad, hence why no replies in the threads yet. Still trying to figure out what to say.

RodFan08
08-24-2004, 08:45 PM
Thanx athie, I appreciate it

Space Cowgirl
08-25-2004, 12:03 PM
kiwi homepage (http://www.xx-ion.de/nicolas-kiefer/). There you go bkm08.

URGH Neely I feel terrible and so sad, hence why no replies in the threads yet. Still trying to figure out what to say.


Athie! :hug:
Onwards and upwards, here's to a good US Open for the Germans!
BTW, am setting about finally getting a home PC this week, so will soon be online with my voluntary translation service ;)

knight_ley
08-25-2004, 03:56 PM
I am hoping to go up and see him at least once, but i won't be able to make it up until the second week. I know we're gonna go to the final, but I wanna get up there a day that Kiefer's playing and buy tickets to see hiiim cuz I need to. And if he ends up playing Roddick, you better believe I'll go up to that game and be the only person there cheering for Kiefer... haha... But I dont care!!! :kiss:

sol
08-25-2004, 07:50 PM
Kiwi has a tough draw after the 3rd round. Good luck to him! :D
Carlos Moya ESP (3)
v.
Brian Baker USA

Qualifier
v.
Amer Delic USA

Qualifier
v.
Alexander Popp GER

Olivier Rochus BEL
v.
Mario Ancic CRO (27)

Dominik Hrbaty SVK (22)
v.
Oscar Hernandez ESP

Karol Kucera SVK
v.
Xavier Malisse BEL

Qualifier
v.
Qualifier

Victor Hanescu ROM
v.
Paradorn Srichaphan THA (15)

Gaston Gaudio ARG (9)
v.
Juan Monaco ARG

Daniel Elsner GER
v.
Thomas Johansson SWE

Greg Rusedski GBR
v.
Cyril Saulnier FRA

Qualifier
v.
Nicolas Kiefer GER (19)

Mardy Fish USA (26)
v.
David Ferrer ESP

Qualifier
v.
Max Mirnyi BLR

Irakli Labadze GEO
v.
Qualifier

Ivo Karlovic CRO
v.
Tim Henman GBR (5)

Neely
08-25-2004, 09:36 PM
so lets take a look at Kiwi's possible matches:

1st round: qualifier
I hope it's not the most dangerous qualifier :o

2nd round: Rusedski or Saulnier
that's where it might become very difficult
Kiwi could already beat Rusedski a few weeks ago in LA quite convincingly with 6-1 6-4, but Rusedski is still holding a 5-4 career edge over him and if he is in form he can be very dangerous again because he's difficult to break with his serve.
Saulnier... OMG :scared: very dangerous opponent recently. I remember Tommy Haas's match in LA quite well, Tommy went on to win the tournament and has beaten Agassi this week, so he was in quite good form, but still Saulnier pushed him quite much and this 7-5 7-5 result of Tommy was a VERY HARD work. Also Saulnier's latest results have been quite good: he has beaten Youzhny, 2nd round at Canada TMS, in a third set tiebreak 7-6(0), and he was only defeated by Joachim Johansson in another 3rd set tiebreak. Then Saulnier seemed to play very well last week against Lleyton in the quarterfinal. Lleyton survived 7-6(5) in the third set and Socket, who attended this match in person, also said he was very dangerous and his serve is a real force.

RodFan08
08-26-2004, 12:58 AM
Not the best draw. But Nico can do it. I wonder who the qualifier will be? We'll see

Neely
08-29-2004, 10:10 PM
Kiwi is playing tomorrow, on Monday, the 2nd match on Grandstand after a women's singles.

Kiwi vs. Mahut

good luck to Kiwi! :yeah: :D :clap2: ... the battle of the two Nicolas :smoke:

I hope he starts well after his disappointing Olympic doubles loss!

RodFan08
08-30-2004, 02:19 AM
heck, i wonder why there isn't an entire forum for kiwi! i always forget to look here since there's not one...should we start a petition to get one or something?

That was my idea. U didn't see the thread I made? Check it out, it's called (ALL KIEFER FANS) HE NEEDS A FORUM. If u have anu ideas post them there, I'd luv to here what u have to say:)

RodFan08
08-30-2004, 02:20 AM
Kiwi is playing tomorrow, on Monday, the 2nd match on Grandstand after a women's singles.

Kiwi vs. Mahut

good luck to Kiwi! :yeah: :D :clap2: ... the battle of the two Nicolas :smoke:

I hope he starts well after his disappointing Olympic doubles loss!


GOOD LUCK KIWI !!!!!!!!!!!:)

knight_ley
08-30-2004, 02:23 AM
Go Kief !!!! :kiss:

kfh_9118
08-30-2004, 03:30 AM
Good luck Kiwi :)

JMG
08-30-2004, 09:05 AM
Great that he plays on the Grandstand. Should be no problem to see him on Eurosport. :D

That's nice after I didn't see any seconds of Kiefer at the Olympics.

Neely
08-30-2004, 07:44 PM
Kiefer def. Mahut 6-3 7-5 6-2

I'm glad he won! :D :D :D :D
The win was important in the 1st round.

His game was far from brilliant, but the win counts at such a stage after his nightmare in the doubles final.


PLEASE LIFT YOUR GAME AGAINST SAULNIER, KIWI!!!! :rolleyes:

COME ON! You can beat him then! :clap2: :clap2:


Now I'm hoping for more good German results! :yeah:

RodFan08
08-30-2004, 07:45 PM
Kiwi won 6-3, 7-5 6-2

Very solid win for Nico. Good Job Kiwi !!!!!!!!!!! Keep it up :) Hopefully there will be an interview afterwards :)

Neely
08-30-2004, 07:47 PM
I'm afraid of Saulnier :scared: :scared:

damn :mad:

I hope he is playing better and he is ready for this match!

RodFan08
08-30-2004, 07:54 PM
I'm afraid of Saulnier :scared: :scared:

damn :mad:

I hope he is playing better and he is ready for this match!

I didn't get to see it, was it that bad?

Neely
08-30-2004, 08:08 PM
I didn't get to see it, was it that bad?
no, it wasn't bad, I would say it was about average and he was there in the deciding moments to make important points; but Saulnier played strong today against Rusedski and also Haas had his hands full beating Saulnier in LA, so did Lleyton in Washington (3rd set tiebreak) and I definitely think Kiwi must play better to beat Saulnier.

I hope he's able to! :yeah:

Fee
08-30-2004, 09:32 PM
Neely,

Can we say that this was a good warm-up match for him? It was his first match after the Olympics, and his first back in the States, so even if he was a little rusty and not on his best rhythm, it was a good match for him to play and win, even if it was a little sloppy. I think he will be ready to play Saulnier on Thursday now that he got those jitters out of his system and perhaps feels comfortable in New York now.

Lucky that you got to see him. We got a few points in the US, and his hair is getting very long. Bet he looks good off-court and freshly showered...

Neely
08-30-2004, 10:18 PM
We got a few points in the US, and his hair is getting very long. Bet he looks good off-court and freshly showered...
completely agree :) :yeah:

BTW, don't you think Nicolas plays his 2nd round match on Wednesday? Or do you know something more because I thought the normal rhythm is if you play on Monday then your 2nd round is with very high probability on Wednesday...

kiwiteami
08-31-2004, 12:37 AM
"Lucky that you got to see him. We got a few points in the US, and his hair is getting very long. Bet he looks good off-court and freshly showered" quote by Fee.

YES HE DOES.. :p :worship: When I got my picture taken with himwhen he was just freshly showered,hair all wet and long plus he smelled so good! :rolleyes: I am too afraid of Saulnier but with confidence,he can beat him. :wavey:

kek
08-31-2004, 03:55 AM
completely agree :) :yeah:

BTW, don't you think Nicolas plays his 2nd round match on Wednesday? Or do you know something more because I thought the normal rhythm is if you play on Monday then your 2nd round is with very high probability on Wednesday...


The USO is the only slam that has 1st rnd play all first 3 days. They might play a 2nd rnd for a night match on Wednesday. I gather it would be Roger at night.

Neely
08-31-2004, 04:16 AM
The USO is the only slam that has 1st rnd play all first 3 days. They might play a 2nd rnd for a night match on Wednesday. I gather it would be Roger at night.
Cool, thanks for telling me. I really wasn't aware of their schedule management.
So we have to wait until the final confirmation in form of the order of play is out to know when he is playing because it's not as predictable as in other tournaments/Grand Slams then...

RodFan08
08-31-2004, 10:27 PM
Here's an article from Kiwis first round win from the US Open website:

Kiefer Keeps Rolling
by Glenn Minnis
Monday, August 30, 2004

The moments that Nicolas Kiefer hopes will soon define his career stretched another day on Monday during opening round play of the 2004 US Open.

Fresh off a doubles silver medal finish at the*Olympic Games and on the heels of earning his highest Grand Slam event ranking in more than three seasons (No. 19), Kiefer, who has also reached four finals this year, continued his breakout campaign here in Flushing with a hard-fought, back-and-forth two-hour and six minutes 6-3, 7-5, 6-2 marathon-like victory over 22-year-old Frenchmen Nicolas Mahut.

Next up for the surging German will be a second-round match on Thursday with France's Cyril Saulnier, a five-set winner over Greg Rusedski.

"I'm tired, but I have two days to rest," a fatigued, yet jubilant Kiefer said, after improving his career Open record to10-6. "It's been a great summer for me and I'm hoping to keep the good feelings I enjoyed in Athens going while I'm here in New York."

If Monday's match was any indication, the*27-year-old big server, may be heading in that direction. After winning the first two sets, Kiefer found himself trailing Mahut 0-2, before ralling from such a deficit for only the third time in his 450-match career. On the day, Kiefer recorded nine aces and netted an 86 percent,*winning percentage on all his first serves.

"It wasn't easy, but I played a solid game and I feel good about that," he said. "I came into this match hoping to be able to save some energy, but he just wouldn't let me do that. In the long run, maybe it's best that I had to be as sharp as I was."

Neely
09-01-2004, 03:17 AM
"I'm tired, but I have two days to rest," a fatigued, yet jubilant Kiefer said
please be well against Saulnier, Kiwi :hug: :rolleyes:

knight_ley
09-01-2004, 06:55 PM
of course i get to go up tonight when Kiefer isn't playing till tomorrow... lol... i swear i will get to see him while he's at the Open !!! :rolleyes:

kiwiteami
09-02-2004, 12:18 AM
Hi..Nicolas is playing on Court no11 and it is the first match..so I'm guessing NO tv coverage. :devil: bUT good luchk to him! :angel:

RodFan08
09-02-2004, 01:38 AM
Good luck Nico!!!!!!!:):)

Space Cowgirl
09-02-2004, 01:03 PM
Hi..Nicolas is playing on Court no11 and it is the first match..so I'm guessing NO tv coverage. :devil: bUT good luchk to him! :angel:


Gaah, the cursed court 11 where Rainer screwed up on Tuesday :eek: . There's definitely tv coverage, at least on German Eurosport :D

Neely
09-02-2004, 01:17 PM
Gaah, the cursed court 11 where Rainer screwed up on Tuesday :eek: .
OMG, OMG... :eek: :eek: :eek: :banghead:
:scared: :scared: :scared:

and the bad thing is that Saulnier won on this court against Rusedski, so he already knows it...

to make it worse, I first thought that Popp also lost on this court, but then I checked and thanksfully it was court #10 and not #11 ;)

phew :D :cool: :smoke:

knight_ley
09-02-2004, 03:11 PM
Think positive guys !!!!!!!!

RodFan08
09-02-2004, 04:33 PM
Holy sh** Nico has comeback from 5-2 down in the first to take the first set 7-6(7-0) and is up 2-0. Go Nico!!!!!!!!!:):):)

sol
09-02-2004, 04:40 PM
Kiwi is leading 7-6 4-1*
Go Kiwi!

sol
09-02-2004, 04:42 PM
Kiwi *4-2
Go Kiwi!

sol
09-02-2004, 04:45 PM
Kiwi 5-2* :DGo Kiwi!

sol
09-02-2004, 04:50 PM
Kiwi is serving for the 2nd set *5-3:D Go Kiwi!

sol
09-02-2004, 04:53 PM
Kiwi takes 2nd set 6-3 :D Go Kiwi

sol
09-02-2004, 05:28 PM
Saulnier is serving *4-2 15-40
C'mon Kiwi! break back..

sol
09-02-2004, 05:29 PM
Kiwi broke back--- is serving *3-4:D

sol
09-02-2004, 05:43 PM
Kiwi saves 2 SP. :D Fight!!!!

sol
09-02-2004, 06:00 PM
1st serve % only 44%.. badly!.. Fight, Kiwi!

sol
09-02-2004, 06:03 PM
MP Kiwi.. C'mon

sol
09-02-2004, 06:04 PM
:yeah: Go Kiwi, Congrats! :bounce: :banana:

knight_ley
09-02-2004, 06:13 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They even showed him during each set here in the States !!!!!!!!!!!

Go Kief :banana: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:kiss:

tangerine_dream
09-02-2004, 06:17 PM
Go Kiwi! :banana: Go Kiwi! :bounce: Go Kiwi! :dance:

MysticMoon
09-02-2004, 07:08 PM
Yiiiiiii-haaaaa! He did it! :clap2:
Keep going, Kiwi!!!

kiwiteami
09-02-2004, 09:08 PM
YES HE WON! :worship: I am so happy but a LITTLE tv coverage but it is better than nothing esp. since we saw his last point and his huge smile when he won...nest Johnasson...NOT GOOD! They know each other pretty well,they were always practicing together in cincinnati..well he can do it :wavey:

kfh_9118
09-02-2004, 10:51 PM
:bounce:

Good luck next round, Kiwi :)

kek
09-02-2004, 11:02 PM
YES HE WON! :worship: I am so happy but a LITTLE tv coverage but it is better than nothing esp. since we saw his last point and his huge smile when he won...nest Johnasson...NOT GOOD! They know each other pretty well,they were always practicing together in cincinnati..well he can do it :wavey:


Nicolas will beat Thomas. He has something to prove after leading 2 sets at Wimbledon. A match he should have won in 3. I was there and the last set was the most pathetic play I have seen Nicolas play in a long time. I seriously doubt he will let it happen again. Thomas will have to play exceptional tennis to beat him on Saturday. I have faith in Nicolas :angel:

Neely
09-02-2004, 11:13 PM
I'll copy in here as well my post from GM...


well done, Kiwi! :banana: :banana:

Kiefer finished Saulnier just at the last moment to prevent that this match is going to 4 or even 5 sets.
That saved him important energy.

Before this match I was scared because Kiefer played just average in his 1st round and because Saulnier really posted some impressive results the last weeks, including very close losses to Lleyton and PimPim.

It was kind of nerve-racking when he was again down a break in the third set, but fought back again and was lucky that the chair umpire didn't give Saulnier this ace in the tiebreak. I think his shot caught the line and should have been an ace. That was the deciding minibreak and even more importantly, it was important for him that he didn't choke again.

Saulnier really was pretty crap today and made soooooo many unbelievable easy errors, and Kiwi didn't even play really good (especially in the third set :o ), but I'm glad that it was enough! :yippee:

He will have to play MUCH better against Thomas Johansson to stand a chance. This what he showed today was not good enough, but with time passing by, I hope that he will feel more and more comfortable in New York and maybe he finds a better rhythm for his 3rd round match! :clap2:


Gooooooo Kiwi! :D :smooch: :clap2:

Fee
09-03-2004, 03:17 AM
Well, I'm very pleased for my little KremKuchen (all my favorite players are given dessert names this week). I think he will be fine in the next round. I have faith in him.

kiwiteami
09-04-2004, 12:53 AM
HELLO :wavey: Nicolas is playing tomorrow (saturday!) ,second match,on the Grandstand.Lets hope for at least a little tv coverage!! :worship: I wish him GOOD LUCK :kiss: .He can beat Thomas...YES he can !! lets forget about the gold medal,Kiwi wants the US Open! :fiery:

Neely
09-04-2004, 01:28 AM
Good luck to him! I will get TV coverage of him to about 99% :D

I hope he can do it and revenge his brutal 5 set loss (when he totally lost his ryhthm after the 2nd(?) rain delay) against ToJo at Wimbledon!

Go Kiwi!! :devil: :clap2:

knight_ley
09-04-2004, 01:48 AM
we should get some good coverage of him here in the states on CBS. they've shown both of Johansson's matches so far, so hopefully they'll show this one too. They'll probably switch back and forth between Maria Sharapova and Kief since they're on at the same time... *crosses fingers to get some Kief*

kfh_9118
09-04-2004, 04:14 AM
Hope they will show it in Australian TV tonight :bounce:

It has been a while since I saw his last match.
Go Kiwi, I have faith in him :angel:

kiwiteami
09-04-2004, 08:16 PM
HE WON..not even one second of TV coverage BUT he won! :worship: he destroyed Thomas! :devil:

sol
09-04-2004, 08:19 PM
:yeah: Well done, Kiwi! :bounce: :banana: Awesome!!!!! :hug: :kiss: Congrats!

misyou25
09-04-2004, 09:09 PM
who was the chair umpire?

Neely
09-05-2004, 01:53 AM
damn, I still can decribe my feelings for this match! :worship: :worship:


I should have started an own thread about Kiwi's match in GM right after his win, but I wasn't at home when his match was played and I just finished watching the tape and it was really AWESOME how Kiwi destroyed Thomas Johansson!

well, Johansson is no mug on this surface and he has posted some good results in his career... Kiwi definitely destroyed him today and it was an important win for him, I'm really happy :bounce: :woohoo:


I'm not sure if you know it or if I already said it but Kiwi blew a 2-0 set lead and a break up in the 3rd set at Wimbledon this year against Johansson and lost the 4th and 5th set in a blow out because the rain delays totally fucked him up.

He has now made a staement that he's not gonna let this happen again by DEFEATING JOHANSSON IN STRAIGHT SETS!

He made a statement with this 6-0 6-1 sets! :bounce:

our commentator said: "and if Johansson looks at the scoreboard now, I'm sure he thinks he is in the wrong movie today. 6-0 and and 5-1 Kiefer in the last two sets, serving for the match now." :haha:

dylanny@bway.net
09-05-2004, 03:26 AM
VERY nervous aout Henman. Supposedlyt his back is bothering him and the haven't played since 2002......but Kiwi lost the last three times they played! PRAY!


(I hate Henman.)

Neely
09-05-2004, 04:08 AM
Yeah, I really hope that on Monday(?) Kiwi has the game to beat Henman.
But of course Henman is tough and Kiwi is holding a negative h2h record against him, you may not underestimate him, but lets hope for Kiwi's abilities that he finds a way to beat him.

COME ON, Kiwi! :worship: :yeah: :D :clap2:

Neely
09-05-2004, 04:12 AM
dd

Kiefer Takes Johansson in Straight Sets
by Lisa Zimmerman
Saturday, September 4, 2004

On paper they are strikingly similar. Nicolas Kiefer of Germany and Thomas Johansson of Sweden, who faced each other Saturday in third-round action, are almost neck and neck when it comes to career statistics.

No. 19 seed Kiefer has six titles to Johansson's seven, and Kiefer's career record is 259-192, while Johansson's is 248-201. They have met four times previously, and both have won twice. (They are even close in age -- Kiefer is 27, and Johansson is 29.) Today was the tie-breaker, and Kiefer moved on to the fourth round with a 6-4, 6-0, 6-1 win.

Even most of their match stats today were comparable: 12 aces for Johansson, 15 for Kiefer; first-serve percentages: 44 for Johansson and 48 for Kiefer; double faults: four for Johansson and three for Kiefer. However, the biggest disparity was in unforced errors: Johansson committed 35, while Kiefer held himself to just 15.

The first set was fairly uneventful, with the two players mixing up baseline volleys with some net play. Johansson went up a break after the third game but never took a real foothold, and Kiefer took the set, 6-4.

In the second, Johansson, on several occasions, set up Kiefer for easy overhand smash shots that contributed to a very quick, 28-minute set, with Johansson not winning a game.

Finally in the third, Johansson started to become agitated, throwing his racket to the ground in frustration after one poorly played point. There were a few flickers of possibility from Johansson, and the crowd took every opportunity to shout encouragement, but he was able to hold serve just once and fell once again to his German rival.

Kiefer moves on to the fourth round where he will face the winner of the match between No. 5 seed Tim Henman of Great Britain and Michal Tabara of the Czech Republic, scheduled for Saturday evening.

Neely
09-05-2004, 04:19 AM
finally, the 5th (or 4th?!) match point was is for Kiwi :D

it's good for him that he could hold his service game at *5-1, I better not imagine what could have happened if Johansson came back to life again :rolleyes:

I hope he never has to take such a loss like against Johansson at Wimbledon this year again....

JMG
09-05-2004, 08:04 AM
Before the tournament has started, I knew that the chance fot the semi-final is big with that draw. He's the favourite now, Henman is ready to go home. I believe in a 3 or 4 set win. :D

MysticMoon
09-05-2004, 10:52 AM
Well done, Kiwi! :hug:
Johansson really played awful, but Kiwi was still so great. Although he didn't really know if Johansson would improve oder stay at the same level, he stayed focussed and just did his thing!
Congrats! And good luck for the next match against Henman! Kiwi can do it! :yeah:

Patrick
09-05-2004, 11:57 AM
Kiefer played very well yesterday. He'll beat Henman. :p

kfh_9118
09-05-2004, 12:12 PM
Congrats Kiwi :worship:

I really hope they will show his match vs Henman here :angel:
Good luck Nicolas :bounce:

kek
09-05-2004, 12:35 PM
Henman has played too much already and his time to lose is now. 2 five setters and a 4 setter not easy wins. He complained yesterday that his back was stiff as anything didn't know how he was going to win.

Nicolas plays like he did against Thomas he will win.

Neely
09-05-2004, 01:40 PM
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/0,1518,316725,00.html

according to this article it looks like Johansson talked crap about Kiefer in the Swedish press after his loss at Wimbledon. After Johansson won against Kiefer in Wimbledon he must have said something like that Kiefer is a player who loses the plot in his matches some time and that you only have to wait for his collapse what makes him finally lose the match.

Kiefer's coach discovered this article in a Swedish newspaper and read it to Kiwi as motivation ;)
Kiwi said as he was down early by a break in 1st set, he remembered again the article and said to himself "not again, not this time" and this was the time when he started playing better :D

Glaubt man Kiefer, trug der Bericht einer Stockholmer Zeitung, den ihm sein schwedischer Coach Thomas Hoegstedt in den Tagen vor dem Spiel mehr als einmal vorlas, wesentlich zu der bisher besten Leistung des Turniers bei.

In der Story charakterisiert Johansson Kiefer als einen Spieler, der während des Matches über kurz oder lang den Faden und danach meistens auch die Begegnung verliert.

NOT THIS TIME, JOHANSSON!! :fiery: :fiery: :devil:
:rolls:

that's a "süße Rache" how we say in German for a sweet revenge ;)

knight_ley
09-05-2004, 03:42 PM
yea that worked out didnt it? loser. he's probably still standing around waiting for Kief to "collapse" and he'll be waiting for a long time to come cuz it's not happening.... GO KIEFER!!! :worship:

kiwiteami
09-05-2004, 05:00 PM
Hi.Well I found it weird that Thomas talked badly about Nicolas since they were always together in Cincinnati.But anyway,it is now in the past and he needs to beat Henman..he's not a bad guy but..he needs to lose! :devil: nicolas needs to win and I just hope that Henman will be very tired after all he played 5 sets plus he is not 22 years-old.Will they play tomorrow? :rolleyes:

Neely
09-05-2004, 10:06 PM
of course it's not the most negative statement and I think they didn't dislike each other because of that, but I'm sure Kiefer didn't want to let that matter rest on him as it was a brutal loss and he wanted to prove Johansson wrong this time with going again up 2-0 sets and then winning in three sets instead of pathetically losing in 5 sets.

Good for him that it worked out and that his form was good yesterday whereas Johansson caught a bad day! ;)

Neely
09-05-2004, 11:57 PM
here is an interview with Kiwi
to view it you can use Windows Media player.
Either just click on the link and Windows Media Player should open automatically or copy and past the URL into the player into "open URL" from the file menu of the player.


mms://wmediavod.coltfrance.com/wmeurosports/eurosport/2004/09/05/KIEFER_13_17676_4_57_1_320x240.wmv

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 12:22 AM
Thanks Neely for the interview.He looks gorgeous..like always.I loved it even if I didn,t understand one word! lol :worship:

knight_ley
09-06-2004, 12:51 AM
omg i have never heard him speak another language! geez i've only even heard him talk like 2x in english!!!!

Neely
09-06-2004, 01:30 AM
omg i have never heard him speak another language! geez i've only even heard him talk like 2x in english!!!!
well, then it was about time :) :cool: :smoke:

dylanny@bway.net
09-06-2004, 01:45 AM
He looks great and I understood the word "Toronto!"

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 01:56 AM
NICOLAS PLAYING FIRST MATCH AT 11am ON ARTHUR ASHE STADIUM :worship: they better show his match on tv :devil: Go Nicolas we believe in you. :worship: be strong,be brave..and beat the crap out of Henman! :devil:

Neely
09-06-2004, 02:57 AM
Go Kiwi!!! :devil: :devil:


okay, Lleyton's match is over now, I have to get some sleep, it's already "late" in Germany :angel: :zzz: :zzz:

let's hope the best for Kiwi tomorrow! :rocker2:

knight_ley
09-06-2004, 03:11 AM
I'm sure they'll show it here in the states on CBS... cuz the other matches going on at 11am are like... I dunno... Kiefer and Henman are pretty much a guarantee... Especially being in Arthur Ashe!!!!! I'm so happy for him! Going from Grandstand to Arthur Ashe is awesome! Go Kief! :kiss:

kfh_9118
09-06-2004, 03:27 AM
Finally, his match is in Arthur Ashe :bounce:

I have to stay awake tonight to see his match.
Good luck, Kiwi :bounce:

sol
09-06-2004, 03:29 AM
I'm sure they'll show it Especially being in Arthur Ashe!!!!! I'm so happy for him!
I’ll be working at 11:00AM ET :sad: . Anyway!. I've got Internet in my office to follow the scoreboard. Best wishes for Kiwi!. :hug: :kiss: :wavey:
I believe that he'll manage to overcome Henman, :D although the h2h record isn't so favorable. :confused: Nico has had a big summer and Tim coming from too long matches this USO edition in all his three early matches. ;) Go Kiwi! :worship:

Space Cowgirl
09-06-2004, 11:39 AM
Auf geht's Kiwi, Du kannst gewinnen!

sol
09-06-2004, 01:09 PM
:yeah: Kiwi kann triumphierend sein, wenn er diesen Wettkampf schnell nimmt, weil Henman ein geduldiger und konsequenter Spieler. Glück zu Nico! :D

SuperFurryAnimal
09-06-2004, 06:57 PM
What's this? Kiwi injured?? :( :cry: :hysteric:

SuperFurryAnimal
09-06-2004, 06:58 PM
:cry: must be :sad:

sol
09-06-2004, 07:08 PM
I did have a bad premonition about Kiwi’s match today. I did think that he would lose but never that has a wrist injury :sad:
I hope he recovers soon! :hug:

MysticMoon
09-06-2004, 07:26 PM
Poor Kiwi! :bigcry:
He really had a chance! :sad:

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 07:41 PM
I have one thing to say about today's match:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :sad:

It was like..a NIGHTMARE! I saw that he was in pain but you know,the doctor will fix it.Poor baby.Lets just HOPE that he doesn,t need surgery (again) and that it isn,t that bad.He really doesn,t need this,he has been playing so well this year.If someone has news about the injury please let us know.

JMG
09-06-2004, 07:52 PM
I hope it's only as bad as before Roland Garros. For me, he didn't look like being sure to retire.

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 07:59 PM
on tv they said that they took him to MRI..lets pary it is nothing! :eek:

Neely
09-06-2004, 08:08 PM
I'm like paralysed now :tears: :tears: :sad: :sobbing: :sobbing:

WHY? :banghead:

RodFan08
09-06-2004, 08:15 PM
I'm upset too, but this wasn't a bad tournament by anymeans. He really could have got to the semis, if only he wasn't injured. Feal better,:) Hope it wasn't too bad:(

Neely
09-06-2004, 08:19 PM
as long as I don't know what exactly happened to his wrist I would have taken a 0-6 0-6 0-6 1st round less instead and not getting injured in the 4th round against in the fifth set

if it's going bad, he's out for the season, no indoor tennis, no Davis Cup nothing... :banghead:

I hope it's not bad, I hope I know soon :help:


BTW, I don't watch anymore the coverage right now, so if your commentators tell you something if they have news about him, tell me as I wouldn't notice it anyway...

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 08:19 PM
I feel..empty! :eek: It's like,I feel bad for him cause it always seems like he's all alone out there.The commentators were cheering for Henman,most people there too.He has no family there,only the coach..all alone! POOR BABY! If there was only a way to reach him.. :sad: God I feel empty..and sad!

MysticMoon
09-06-2004, 08:25 PM
I unfortunately couldn't watch the last set. I only followed it on usopen.org.
Could anybody please tell me what happened to Kiwi?

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 08:32 PM
Well Mystic Moon,to answer to your question.He was serving and everything was fine but he looked at his wrist like 3 times and we saw that he was a little in pain.he then played a volley,wasn,t sure if he was going to stop but during the volley he didn't look like he was in pain and so suddenly he went to see the chair empire and said that he needed the trainer.He came and he said that there wasn't much he could do,can you at least try to play? and Nicolas,in pain,no even able to hold his racquet said nO..and here you go. :sad: A very bad day!

Neely
09-06-2004, 08:33 PM
I believe it was 30-0 and *0-3 in the fifth set when he was serving and after the point was over he was grimacing in pain and didn't continue playing because his wrist seemed to be hurt. It was nothing obvious that you could see in the thousands of replays, so we don't know what it is but he couldn't continue playing. Maybe he could have but prefered to listen to the trainer who advised him he could aggrevate it if he continues playing.

snoop
09-06-2004, 08:33 PM
poor Kiwi :sad::(

Neely
09-06-2004, 08:35 PM
BTw, for me in my coverage it was to some parts audible what the trainer and Kiwi were talking about.
I wasn't able to get everything, only a few parts... did any native English-speakers understand it better what they said or was the volume too low for you as well?

MysticMoon
09-06-2004, 08:36 PM
okay, thank you both. that really doesn't sound well for Kiwi. hopefully it's nothing serious and he can recover soon. ;)

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 08:39 PM
Well the only things that I heard between the trainer and Nicolas is what I said:he told Nicolas to put more pressure on his wrist but he can,t do anything more and can he can play? And Nicolas was like..no..yup like a nightmare!

Jogy
09-06-2004, 08:40 PM
that was bad now :(
I hope it doesn't threten his long-view health

sol
09-06-2004, 08:49 PM
BTW, I don't watch anymore the coverage right now, so if your commentators tell you something if they have news about him, tell me as I wouldn't notice it anyway...
I’ve been in my office, and at least I couldn't watch that painful match :sad:. This should be very tough, bcs Kiwi collapsed when was up 4-0 in the 1st set, and then when could manage to reach the 5th, he suffers this wrist injury. :sad: I also read critics about his attitude on the court, arguing with the umpires and throwing the racket. :eek: This injuries is similar to that had have Cañas. :o :help:

dylanny@bway.net
09-06-2004, 08:55 PM
too depressed to write
Nicolas didn't argue with refs any more than usual, frankly.... and consdering three pretty bogus foot-fault calls, he hung in there. The problem was the second half of the second set and the third set-- lapses in concentration. I hope he'll be ok.

Neely
09-06-2004, 08:58 PM
he shouldn't have argued with the lines judges because they were right on at least four occasions when they showed superslomo replays when balls hit the line or when he touched the line commiting a foot fault.
and he was rather quiet last matches few matches, I'm sure these calls upset him a lot and maybe he knew he they were right and just wanted to look for something to pump himself up because he needed some fire what finally resulted in a well played tiebreak in the 4th set... we just don't know because we can't look into his mind what he was thinking then. :shrug:
Maybe he wanted to see these balls out and wished that they were out or couldn't believe that he is all of sudden comitting double faults :shrug:
we don't know...


BUT I don't blame him for throwing his racket when leaving the court after retiring. That's just too much understandable. You're playing an almost perfect hardcourt summer, you make the 4th round of a Grand Slam since long time and then you can't finish the match properly. :banghead:

That hits you hard :banghead:

sol
09-06-2004, 09:17 PM
I think that to argue with the chair umpire / line judges are a waste of energy and time, since is very difficult to overrule the decision unless if they’re playing on clay. I believe that any player needs a great mental strength for not losing the focus and the timing of the match in those circumstances. :sad:

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 09:40 PM
Does someone have any news about the injury? still nothing! :mad: As far as his on court attitude goes,well Kiwi will always be like that..like it or not.The most important thing to know is that he is not like that off court,a real sweety with a big heart. :angel: Yes he might act like that to pump himself up but it is very upsetting after such a perfect summer to have to end it with an injury..I can't wait to have some news..and lets all hope good news. :bowdown: :bowdown:

kiwiteami
09-06-2004, 09:51 PM
Well I have news.On tv they said that the trainer thought that or it is a fracture of the wrist or a tendon injury.So there is a 50% chance that he will play at Davis cup and depending on the injury,he might be off ffrom 4 weeks to 6 weeks! :mad:

Patrick
09-06-2004, 09:55 PM
I'm totally disappointed. Kiefer played very badly. :(

kek
09-06-2004, 09:56 PM
He already has updated his website. Basically from the bad translation that he will let us know has soon as he get the results of the MRI later today. Perhaps Neely can translate it better for us.

sol
09-06-2004, 10:06 PM
I hope Neely can translate this for us.

What I could understand was:

“It is really brutal. I did see my chance to turn the match against Tim Henman again. However, it happened with the last Volley: I could move my hand right no more, the ball became fat, and the thumb hurts infernally.

I still drive in New York to the nuclear spin examination here. I'll visit my doctor in Germany and will discuss to do what is. At the moment, I don't know what exactly happened yet”

Neely
09-06-2004, 11:42 PM
that's right what you understood... furthermore he was saying in the middle part that he thought about it [whether to retire or not] for long time, but it wasn't possible because he couldn't hold his racket anymore. He wants to leave the US as soon as possible now today evening.

At the end he is saying that the eighth final at the US Open is basically a good result, but he had the feeling it could have gone further. It is brutal that sports-wise the knockout came in Athens, now in New York the physical one. He writes that he wants to pass this test as well and he will keep us updated when he knows more.

knight_ley
09-07-2004, 12:19 AM
i am seriously like ...... gutted after this. his summer has been amazing and to have this happen is just unreal. i pray that it isn't anything too serious and he will be back with us soon. we love you Kiwi! :kiss:

kiwiteami
09-07-2004, 01:03 AM
you know,we might be a small group of people supporting Nicolas but we are 100% behind him and I just hope that he knows that we are here,and whatever happens,win or lose,bad or nice,we'll be here for him.We love U Nicolas :worship:

knight_ley
09-07-2004, 02:07 AM
:sad: I hope he knows we are here too and that no matter what happens, he will always have us supporting him. :kiss:

This is from the US Open site ::::


An interview with: NICOLAS KIEFER

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.


Q. Obviously the wrist, but can you tell us what happened?
NICOLAS KIEFER: Well, I mean, everything was okay and then 3-Love, first point, I had this reflex volley that came very fast, and I felt that something happened. Just tried to keep on going. Big first serve. But I couldn't hold my racquet. That was a tough decision. I wanted to finish it. Maybe at this stage was bad to stop, but you never know.


Q. The low volley you had to take, is that where it got hurt?
NICOLAS KIEFER: Yeah.


Q. You didn't seem to react to that volley, that it hurt you? You went back to play as though nothing happened.
NICOLAS KIEFER: Yeah, but I felt it at this stage. I just tried to focus on my game. I thought, "Forget about it, it's going to be better." As I said, I tried to serve. And then Per examinated (sic) it. It's a tough decision, but I had problems with the wrist before. You don't know, decisions like that, you take them. At this stage, it got swollen, so something is wrong.


Q. How are the doctors describing the injury?
PER BASTHOLT: Well, firstly, when I see Nicolas on the court, I try to evaluate the acute situation. Obviously, we have to do some more testing on it to be sure of the exact diagnosis. But it was apparent to me that there was something seriously wrong. He had absolutely no power. He wouldn't want to extend the wrist. So I was sending warning signals to him also. The ultimate decision is his. He said, "I can't hold the racquet." We tend to believe that he has a tendon issue, but we want to make sure. So he's doing an MRI in a little bit to exclude potential stress fracture or fracture.


Q. If it's no worse than you think it is now, could you estimate how long he would not be able to play tennis?
PER BASTHOLT: That's very individual how they recover from things like this. I would say normality would be four to six weeks.


Q. Have you ever been in this situation before? Can you talk a little bit about it. It must be incredibly disappointing.
NICOLAS KIEFER: No, I mean, of course it was strange game. I came out, had a great start. He came back very strong. I didn't feel so good outside. I just tried to stay in there, and fight, keep on fighting. I came back strong in the fourth set. I won the tiebreaker, very close decisions. But I made it. Yeah, I had also a good start. But he broke me. I tried to stay in the whole time. But there are things that happen maybe, I don't know, maybe once in your career, maybe less. Unfortunately, it was me.


Q. Per, if he had of continued, would there have been a serious threat to a longer injury?
PER BASTHOLT: Yeah. Obviously when a tendon is hurt, if he had a fracture, if you continue to play, you can potentially hurt yourself badly. Yeah, obviously it would take longer to recover.


Q. You talked about Tim's fighting qualities. I guess it's not something that everybody associates with him. He sort of hung in there, didn't he?
NICOLAS KIEFER: Who?


Q. Tim.
NICOLAS KIEFER: Yeah.


Q. Were you pleased in general with the way you played this match, the right tactics, the right execution for the most part, up until the time the injury occurred?
NICOLAS KIEFER: No, I mean, I came out very strong, and I let him play a little bit his game. Was tough for me to focus today. I don't know why. This I can think about later. I was struggling a little bit with my serve. I couldn't go up very good. I mean, this is normal. I had so long weeks, long trips. Of course, my body feels tired. Maybe that's the result, I don't know. But I didn't come up so good with my serve. I mean, everybody knows that he has a great net game, but also he misses some. I forced him to play a fifth set. The most important thing for me in this stage was that I kept on fighting. I was down two sets to one, and he won so many straight games. But I was thinking every time that I can still do it. I kept on fighting, fighting, fighting. Today I stayed in by fighting and being positive, not by playing tennis.


Q. Have you ever been foot-faulted with such regularity?
NICOLAS KIEFER: Only here at the US Open (smiling). I mean, last few months or weeks, I don't know when my last foot-fault was. But today three times, one time very important point. I think also last match I had two or three foot-faults. Maybe the linesmen are something special here, I don't know.

Neely
09-07-2004, 02:19 AM
okay, if the evaluation of the trainer is correct then I think we can pull the following conclusion: Kiwi is out for the season :tears: :tears: :tears:

I really wanted him to see playing some indoor events this season :sad:

kfh_9118
09-07-2004, 03:59 AM
Poor Kiwi :sad:

I am so sad watching the match last night and the fact that Kiwi had to retire after fight back in the fourth set :sad:

But I must admit, he didn't play well yesterday, esp. second and third set, very low 1st serve percentage, poor return, seems that he wasn't focus enough in those two sets.

It's very unfortunate for him to lose this way. Tim didn't play that well either, Kiwi had a huge chance to win the match and very good chance to be in the SF :bigcry: Well, maybe next time.

Hope he will recover soon, and come back stronger. I prefer him to take rest and skip the indoor season if the injury is quite bad. I prefer to see him come back stronger next year :D

All the best, Kiwi

And thanks to all those who have translated his diary from the website. Please keep us (non-German fans) updated with his injury status. Thanks

Space Cowgirl
09-07-2004, 11:52 AM
you know,we might be a small group of people supporting Nicolas but we are 100% behind him and I just hope that he knows that we are here,and whatever happens,win or lose,bad or nice,we'll be here for him.We love U Nicolas :worship:


Aww, hugs to you and Neely! :hug:
This is such a bad break (sorry, pun unintended!) for Kiwi. He wasn't playing as well as he could yesterday, even though he fought hard and was great in the TBs. According to this article http://www.netzeitung.de/sport/tennis/303936.html
he left NYC last night for Germany. There's no chance of him taking part in the Davis Cup :sad: . «Ich fühle mich wie vor den Kopf geschlagen. Ich habe gar keine Tränen mehr.» ("I feel like I've been knocked on the head. I have no more tears in me")
Gute Besserung, Kiwi!

sol
09-07-2004, 12:54 PM
Thanks for the link:D

I'm soooo sorry for Kiwi and all the German fans. He won't play at DC for Germany :hug: I want that Tommy. Rainer and Florian can dot it well for you. Hopefully!

As he said " One single second can destroy so much" ... And now this history. " If the doctors keep right in New York, the Hanoverian will be able not to play any tennis at least three to six weeks." :sad:

He had a the similar right wrist injury in his third-round match against the South African Neville Godwin at Wimbledon 1996. :sad:

I really hope he recovers soon!! :hug:

knight_ley
09-07-2004, 03:52 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

RodFan08
09-07-2004, 05:07 PM
Poore Kiwi:(