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Rafael Nadal will be Hewittized in 3rd round :banana:

FedFan_2007
05-27-2009, 09:38 PM
Discuss. I think the scrappy ole Aussie has one great match left in him. Probably will take a set.

Mint Chip
05-27-2009, 09:41 PM
One can only dream. If Hewitt wins the match it would be a good result for tennis and for Roland Garros. Hewitt would have to use more angles and show Federer how its really done

FedFan_2007
05-27-2009, 09:42 PM
One has to understand, this is Hewitt's last French Open so he's extremely motivated and will go 1000%. There will be much vamos topspinning and fistpumping and C'MONs in this match. Let the testosterone flow...

Acer
05-27-2009, 09:44 PM
If he does it, I'll take you all out for a drink.

oliverbwfc
05-27-2009, 09:48 PM
I would love it to happen, but it just won't, I don't really even see him getting a set

MrChopin
05-27-2009, 09:51 PM
Hewitt's final stand: taking a set from Rafa at RG. Probably not exactly as he envisioned it back in 2001-2002.

Ackms421
05-27-2009, 09:52 PM
One has to understand, this is Hewitt's last French Open so he's extremely motivated and will go 1000%. There will be much vamos topspinning and fistpumping and C'MONs in this match. Let the testosterone flow...

He's retiring after this year?? I didn't know that. :shrug:

Hewitt will be lucky to take a set to 6-3. When Nadal beats you 6-1 6-2 on a hard court, your chances of beating him at Roland Garros are, well, very slim.

rubbERR
05-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Hewitt will b lucky if he will get 2 games/set, his serving is awful, so inconsistent that even Mardy Fish beats him 1st serve %.

Angle Queen
05-27-2009, 09:59 PM
:rolls:

Dini
05-27-2009, 10:00 PM
He'll probably win 4 games at max in one of those 3 sets.

Tenn1sAdd1ct
05-27-2009, 10:09 PM
:D Nadal will love Hewitt's groundies, 3-0.

Matt01
05-27-2009, 10:10 PM
One has to understand, this is Hewitt's last French Open so he's extremely motivated and will go 1000%. There will be much vamos topspinning and fistpumping and C'MONs in this match. Let the testosterone flow...


Take your meds, dude :rolleyes:

Certinfy
05-27-2009, 10:11 PM
Hewitt will win.

RIboy
05-27-2009, 10:11 PM
easy for Rafa....2, 3 and 3

ossie
05-27-2009, 10:17 PM
the spartan will eat him alive

ClaudiuS
05-27-2009, 10:26 PM
FedFan_2007 just needed some MTF attention. :hug: There you go.

Har-Tru
05-27-2009, 11:09 PM
you actually did think you can post smileys on the thread title?

brent-o
05-27-2009, 11:11 PM
you actually did think you can post smileys on the thread title?

Was thinking the same thing myself!

McAlistar
05-27-2009, 11:17 PM
Rafa has no chance :o

Hewitt was saying earlier this week that only a handful of guys can win Wimbledon,including himself..

FedFan_2007
05-27-2009, 11:36 PM
I'm betting all my vCash on...

MacTheKnife
05-27-2009, 11:40 PM
This may be one of those matches when McEnroe will say, if Hewitt wins this match I'll stand on my head !!

miura
05-27-2009, 11:42 PM
Rafa in 3. To say anything else would be madness, frankly!

Corey Feldman
05-27-2009, 11:47 PM
poor Hewitt

another match when he'll get around 5 games

federernadalfan
05-28-2009, 12:00 AM
hewitt stands no chance

calvinhobbes
05-28-2009, 12:13 AM
the spartan will eat him alive

Anthropophagy is one of the best spartan virtues.

arm
05-28-2009, 12:35 AM
If he does it, I'll take you all out for a drink.

Deal :rolls:

desigundah
05-28-2009, 12:50 AM
One has to understand, this is Hewitt's last French Open so he's extremely motivated and will go 1000%. There will be much vamos topspinning and fistpumping and C'MONs in this match. Let the testosterone flow...

Hewitt announced his retirement? I think you're thinking Safin, no?

desigundah
05-28-2009, 12:57 AM
Yes yes I like the idea. Somehow Bec finds her way to Nadal's hotel room and bedazzles him with her stunning looks, spikes drinks with roofies and his dinner with horse laxatives. Rafa, caring too much about his image, relationship with Xisca and his RG unbeaten streak trudges onto court giving everything he has, which isnt much, before bowing to the legend who ended Rafa's run at RG. Hewitt pulls off the thriller 7-6 (14) 6-7 (13) 7-6 (21) 6-7 (28) 28-28 ret. as the match goes a stunning 10 hours and 11 minutes before Rafa falls to the ground of complete exhaustion and is sent to the local hospital as we see Hewitt winking at Bec lawn mowing his way to the locker room after the biggest win he'll ever have again. Bamos.

fred perry
05-28-2009, 01:18 AM
I think he has one come awwwnnnnn left in him. and he will lose in 3.

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 02:10 AM
Hewitt will struggle to win any games v Nadal. Everything Hewitt does well Nadal does a lot better. And Hewitt's serve isn't strong enough to avoid having to rally for every point, which Nadal will win. I think 2 0 2.

Laba
05-28-2009, 02:19 AM
Should be a routine straight sets win for Rafa but a good match to watch.

Johnny Groove
05-28-2009, 02:23 AM
This is at least the third time fedfan has tried to recycle this thread joke.

Sunset of Age
05-28-2009, 02:26 AM
To the OP:

http://pics.livejournal.com/twoflower/pic/00023gph

JediFed
05-28-2009, 02:32 AM
Should be

Rafa Nadal will be Twittered in 3rd Round. :D

leng jai
05-28-2009, 02:48 AM
This is at least the third time fedfan has tried to recycle this thread joke.

Nadull will be Haasinated.

KoOlMaNsEaN
05-28-2009, 03:24 AM
To me in my memory Nadal is a way better version of Hewitt so 3 sets. 1 might be close if Nadal lets it

fast_clay
05-28-2009, 03:31 AM
To the OP:

http://pics.livejournal.com/twoflower/pic/00023gph

mmm.... looks mighty refreshing...

i think i'll have some...

Warrior
05-28-2009, 03:51 AM
One set will go to 7-5, but he'll get killed in the other two.

BlueSwan
05-28-2009, 05:01 AM
you actually did think you can post smileys on the thread title?
Read up on your MTF history. :)

Years ago some poster did a thread like this on Federer with the banana in the thread title - which was hilarious. I believe the first post was originally on Federer getting "Safinated" in round three of Wimbledon several years back. But after Fed won that match the thread kept getting its title changed for every GS match he played and for a while it seemed that Fed would win every match as long as that stupid thread kept going. It's MTF legend.

mr_burns
05-28-2009, 05:34 AM
bad draw for hewitt...

one close and two easy sets for nadal, of course


don't think it will be hewitts last RG, he seems motivated the last months( appearances in Munich and MC are a good indicator..)

*bunny*
05-28-2009, 06:05 AM
One has to understand, this is Hewitt's last French Open so he's extremely motivated and will go 1000%. There will be much vamos topspinning and fistpumping and C'MONs in this match. Let the testosterone flow...
Will you please not make it sound like Hewitt is retiring. :(

Hewitt announced his retirement? I think you're thinking Safin, no?
I think so too. Hewitt has never announced retirement.

Forehander
05-28-2009, 06:26 AM
yep, take him down. let Federer win the french.

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 06:40 AM
Nadal should pay Hewitt back for the racist remark during that James Blake match a few years ago at US Open, should beat him 6-0 6-0 6-2 (Hewitt is a fighter you know he'll get a couple of games in the end).

BackhandMissile
05-28-2009, 06:46 AM
It will be a repeat of Federer-Hewitt at Wimbledon '08.

Hewitt will put up a good fight but miss out on the important points, and lose in 3.

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 07:28 AM
Nadal should pay Hewitt back for the racist remark during that James Blake match a few years ago at US Open, should beat him 6-0 6-0 6-2 (Hewitt is a fighter you know he'll get a couple of games in the end).

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
oh you`re referring to that incident '8 years ago', where Hewitt got pissed at the same linesman [who happened to be black] foot faulting him numerous times, while he played Blake [who happened to be black]:rolleyes:

...there was never any `racist incident`, but overly sensitive people drew their own conclusions because Hewitt was an easy target with his aggressive manner of fist pumping etc.
>>
if Lleyton said the same things & his opponent happened to be white, while the linesman happened to be white>> would you then say Hewitt is racist against white people:p:wavey::sad:

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 07:29 AM
^^ No because white is not a minority race in case you hadn't noticed....

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 07:41 AM
^^
No because white is not a minority race in case you hadn't noticed....


:rolleyes::rolleyes:
You obviously don`t understand the definition of `racism` then do you:p:p


www.merriam-webster.com
RACISM
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

:p:p

Ivanatis
05-28-2009, 07:48 AM
I'd love to see that happen.

Venle
05-28-2009, 08:01 AM
I'm waiting (or hoping) for a good match. Five sets and some tie-breaks would be nice. :p

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 08:13 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
You obviously don`t understand the definition of `racism` then do you:p:p


www.merriam-webster.com
RACISM
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

:p:p

You reveal a severe lack of education (or something a lot worse) if you think black and white America share the same racial sensitivities.....there tends to be a difference because of the black slavery and wot not

StevoTG
05-28-2009, 08:21 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
oh you`re referring to that incident '8 years ago', where Hewitt got pissed at the same linesman [who happened to be black] foot faulting him numerous times, while he played Blake [who happened to be black]:rolleyes:

...there was never any `racist incident`, but overly sensitive people drew their own conclusions because Hewitt was an easy target with his aggressive manner of fist pumping etc.
>>
if Lleyton said the same things & his opponent happened to be white, while the linesman happened to be white>> would you then say Hewitt is racist against white people:p:wavey::sad:

Don't waste your time ;) I actually had a discussion with Rrrainer about this on here before (in the thread HEWITT interview [Laver, Nadal, Rafter, Dr.Phil & James Bond cameos]* http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=123317&page=3 ) and he actually listened to me and we could have a proper discussion about it. But I usually can't be bothered getting involved anymore when someone goes down the 'Hewitt is a racist' road - if someone wants to hate him, then they can use any excuse they like. I myself can't warm to Djokovic, but I wouldn't want to ever see him convicted of a crime without any sort of attemt to examine the evidence.

As for the thread topic, BackhandMissile could be correct.. to be honeset I wouldn't be too upset with that. Hewitt is still recovering from the surgery and his body seems to be reacting well this week. A defeat to Nadal without the confidence being harmed would allow him to rest up and hopefully find his best form on the grass courts :)

Nadal, on clay, is almost untouchable.

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 08:23 AM
You reveal a severe lack of education (or something a lot worse) if you think black and white America share the same racial sensitivities.....there tends to be different because of the black slavery and wot not


:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Bachelor of Commerce & Masters degree in Applied Linguistics at the University of Melbourne..
Tertiary Entrance Rank of 95.25
...
***
As i said previously the Hewitt--Blake incident was merely `perceived racism`! its completely obvious that Hewitt is not racist at all, but because of him criticising a linesman [who happened to be black]> while he played Blake [who happened to be black], the hypersensitive American fans & media tried to turn him into some kind of satan figure:eek:

Look at the facts:: Hewitt merely complained that the same linesman foot faulted him multiple times ["tell me the difference"]~~ i.e. the same person `only him` kept foot faulting Lleyton..
;)

Its easy to call someone `racist` and its often used by people as a scapegoat..!
E.g. I think Serena Williams is overweight [`oh my god CmonAussie is racist`:eek:]

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 08:28 AM
Don't waste your time ;) I actually had a discussion with Rrrainer about this on here before (in the thread HEWITT interview [Laver, Nadal, Rafter, Dr.Phil & James Bond cameos]* http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=123317&page=3 ) and he actually listened to me and we could have a proper discussion about it. But I usually can't be bothered getting involved anymore when someone goes down the 'Hewitt is a racist' road - if someone wants to hate him, then they can use any excuse they like. I myself can't warm to Djokovic, but I wouldn't want to ever see him convicted of a crime without any sort of attemt to examine the evidence.

As for the thread topic, BackhandMissile could be correct.. to be honeset I wouldn't be too upset with that. Hewitt is still recovering from the surgery and his body seems to be reacting well this week. A defeat to Nadal without the confidence being harmed would allow him to rest up and hopefully find his best form on the grass courts :)

Nadal, on clay, is almost untouchable.

Cheers StevoTG:cool:
...
Yeah as you said its a waste of time if someone wants to hate on someone else.. Just annoys me when people get labelled `racist` just becasue they criticise someone [who happens to be black]:sad:

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 08:30 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Bachelor of Commerce & Masters degree in Applied Linguistics at the University of Melbourne..
Tertiary Entrance Rank of 95.25
...
***
As i said previously the Hewitt--Blake incident was merely `perceived racism`! its completely obvious that Hewitt is not racist at all, but because of him criticising a linesman [who happened to be black]> while he played Blake [who happened to be black], the hypersensitive American fans & media tried to turn him into some kind of satan figure:eek:

Look at the facts:: Hewitt merely complained that the same linesman foot faulted him multiple times ["tell me the difference"]~~ i.e. the same person `only him` kept foot faulting Lleyton..
;)

Its easy to call someone `racist` and its often used by people as a scapegoat..!
E.g. I think Serena Williams is overweight [`oh my god CmonAussie is racist`:eek:]


"you look at him" (gestures to Blake)

"and you look at him (gestures to linesman) and tell me what the similarity is"

"I want him gone, get rid of him"

:wavey:

StevoTG
05-28-2009, 08:33 AM
"you look at him" (gestures to Blake)

"and you look at him (gestures to linesman) and tell me what the similarity is"

"I want him gone, get rid of him"

:wavey:

On both occasions he gestured to the linesman. If you want to you can read through the post in the thread I linked. We may have to agree to disagree though.

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 08:34 AM
I was there when the incident happened, why would I read someone's thread....LOL

ossie
05-28-2009, 08:39 AM
hewitt cant touch the spartan

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 08:39 AM
I was there when the incident happened, why would I read someone's thread....LOL

you see what you want to see, because it suits you [since you already had a preconcieved notion of Hewitt as a `bad guy` perpetuated by the media]:sad:
***
BTW, i don`t believe you were actually there~ thats another easy throw away line:p
Please attach the photos you took at the match [not internet download pics]..
Surely you would have taken photos since you have such a vivid memory of this controversial incident you saw live..

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 08:44 AM
you see what you want to see, because it suits you [since you already had a preconcieved notion of hating Hewitt]:sad:
***
BTW, i don`t believe you were actually there~ thats another easy throw away line:p
Please attach the photos you took at the match [not internet download pics]..
Surely you would have taken photos since you have such a vivid memory of this controversial incident you saw live..

Go get a real education (btw "I" before "E" except AFTER "C" when you spell preconceived) before you lecture me about what really happened :wavey:

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 08:48 AM
Go get a real education (btw "I" before "E" except AFTER "C" when you spell preconceived) before you lecture me about what really happened :wavey:
...
:rolleyes:
theRAFA, you`re so clever for pointing out my spelling mistake- i guess you win the debate then:eek:
seriously aren`t you ashamed how immature you are:o
...
BTW, nice way to avoid the point- where are those pics you took at the Hewitt--Blake match:confused: of course you were there live (what court was it played on?) weren`t you~ sure full of lies fruitcake:p

Bargearse
05-28-2009, 08:55 AM
"you look at him" (gestures to Blake)

"and you look at him (gestures to linesman) and tell me what the similarity is"

"I want him gone, get rid of him"

:wavey:

I don't think Hewitt wouldn't win a popularity contest here in Australia. I don't know too many people who like him and it's not just because of 'perceived racism', but because of many things. For example, several years ago at a tournament in Adelaide, he called his fans 'stupid' and the c'mons on the court (although not too frequent these days) were at times inappropriate, not to mention annoying.

He has calmed down in recent years and I find him to be fairly gracious and articulate with the press which is great. He is also more sportsmanlike on the court but I think that's because he's no longer at the top and his best years are probably behind him.

He'll lose to Nadal in straight sets.

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 08:59 AM
Go get a real education (btw "I" before "E" except AFTER "C" when you spell preconceived) before you lecture me about what really happened :wavey:


I guess you`re the authority on `racism` aren`t you theRAFA..

Speaking of "what really happened"-- the ITF and USO tourney officials reviewed the footage of the incident at the time and found `no evidence of racism`:p
However, your authority supersedes the ITF:confused:

Ironically Nadal and Hewitt are good friends, so RAFA would be ashamed to have you as one of his fanboys [theRAFA-- how original:sad:]..

StevoTG
05-28-2009, 09:09 AM
I guess you`re the authority on `racism` aren`t you theRAFA..

Speaking of "what really happened"-- the ITF and USO tourney officials reviewed the footage of the incident at the time and found `no evidence of racism`:p
However, your authority supersedes the ITF:confused:

Ironically Nadal and Hewitt are good friends, so RAFA would be ashamed to have you as one of his fanboys [theRAFA-- how original:sad:]..

You and your common sense, this is no place for any of that! ;)

TennisViewer531
05-28-2009, 09:12 AM
lol! nice word "Hewittized"

vamosinator
05-28-2009, 09:19 AM
I guess you`re the authority on `racism` aren`t you theRAFA..

Speaking of "what really happened"-- the ITF and USO tourney officials reviewed the footage of the incident at the time and found `no evidence of racism`:p
However, your authority supersedes the ITF:confused:

Ironically Nadal and Hewitt are good friends, so RAFA would be ashamed to have you as one of his fanboys [theRAFA-- how original:sad:]..

And the ITF has never been wrong....again you show your lack of education. Why would I care who Nadal's friends are....I'm a TENNIS fan, I don't care nor know what happens off the court. That must be an Australian thing, to care about your favorite athlete's personal life....theRAFA is more original than CmonAussie<===

CescAndyKimi
05-28-2009, 09:23 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Bachelor of Commerce & Masters degree in Applied Linguistics at the University of Melbourne..
Tertiary Entrance Rank of 95.25
...
***
As i said previously the Hewitt--Blake incident was merely `perceived racism`! its completely obvious that Hewitt is not racist at all, but because of him criticising a linesman [who happened to be black]> while he played Blake [who happened to be black], the hypersensitive American fans & media tried to turn him into some kind of satan figure:eek:

Ontopic: Hewitt will be soundly beaten. He'll fight and struggle in the first set, but he will be bent over in the 2nd and 3rd. prediction, 6-4, 6-2 , 6-1.

Look at the facts:: Hewitt merely complained that the same linesman foot faulted him multiple times ["tell me the difference"]~~ i.e. the same person `only him` kept foot faulting Lleyton..
;)

Its easy to call someone `racist` and its often used by people as a scapegoat..!
E.g. I think Serena Williams is overweight [`oh my god CmonAussie is racist`:eek:]

Applied Linguistics!! :eek::eek:
You are proud of that degree? Wow. The study of language is worth so much to my life, I think I'll stop my Accounting and Finance degree to pursue this worthy cause in life. To scientifically study languages. I hope you make a lot of money. :angel:

Bargearse
05-28-2009, 09:35 AM
And the ITF has never been wrong....again you show your lack of education. Why would I care who Nadal's friends are....I'm a TENNIS fan, I don't care nor know what happens off the court. That must be an Australian thing, to care about your favorite athlete's personal life....theRAFA is more original than CmonAussie<===

You're spot on theRAFA. The Australian media are obsessed with the parents, siblings and friends of famous athletes and even conduct interviews with them which I guess equates to delving into their personal lives. I've seen interviews with Hewitt's parents, and the parents of other tennis players too like Sam Stosur and Casey Dellaqua, swimmer Ian Thorpe's parents... the list goes on. Yawn.:confused:

I'm not interested in what their parents or friends have to say about them. I've never understood it.

oranges
05-28-2009, 09:38 AM
OT, but I can't stop laughing at a student of accounting ridiculing , well anyone

modern tennis
05-28-2009, 09:52 AM
hewitt has changed as a man, from a bratty kid to a respected mature likeable adult. and its all because of his beautiful wife rebecca cartwright. rebecca was an actress in an aussie drama called home and away and she sounds like such a kind and nice person, im sure she changed hewitt for the better.

Bargearse
05-28-2009, 09:59 AM
hewitt has changed as a man, from a bratty kid to a respected mature likeable adult. and its all because of his beautiful wife rebecca cartwright. rebecca was an actress in an aussie drama called home and away and she sounds like such a kind and nice person, im sure she changed hewitt for the better.

Yes, I agree his wife and children have probably had a lot to do with Hewitt's maturity. He's not as unlikable as he used to be. I once conducted voodoo (for fun) when he played a match against Federer hoping he'd lose (he later got injured and also got the chicken pox which isn't what I planned) :p. But the other night against Karlovic, I was actually backing him for the first time and was also pleased he won his 2nd round match. If he could beat Nadal I'd consider organizing a parade in his honour.

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 10:00 AM
Applied Linguistics!! :eek::eek:
You are proud of that degree? Wow. The study of language is worth so much to my life, I think I'll stop my Accounting and Finance degree to pursue this worthy cause in life. To scientifically study languages. I hope you make a lot of money. :angel:


Good luck making lots of money with your accounting and finance degree;)
I`m not wealthy but I am happy and educated (theRAFA suggested I`m not], so thats all:cool:

FairWeatherFan
05-28-2009, 10:19 AM
It would bring light to to the darkness that currently engulfs the sport if Hewitt were to win, but that is extremely unlikely. He will put up a good fight as always, but will lose in straights.

Norrage
05-28-2009, 10:36 AM
You would think that Nadal should beat Hewitt easily, but Hewitt has the game to beat Nadal. And he has had close matches against Nadal on clay before...He surely won't be blown off the court. I don't think he will get a set, but he surely will get more than 2 games...sheez...

His game matches up real well to Nadal. Hewitt takes the ball on the rise, plays faster and has good angles. I hope for a good match!

Ackms421
05-28-2009, 11:02 AM
Here's a link to an article about the incident.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/usopen/3011926/US-Open-Crowd-chide-racist-Hewitt.html

If the assertion is that he was merely berating the linesman for his supposedly poor calls, then his semantics were a bit off. Why would he say "look at him and tell me what the similarity is." To be a similarity, there has to be some comparison. The "similarity" between who and who or who and what?

The article says he "beckoned" toward Blake when he made this remark. But it doesn't really matter if he did or not, he had to be comparing the lineman to someone or something else. He wasn't comparing the lineman to himself.

Black Adam
05-28-2009, 11:09 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Bachelor of Commerce & Masters degree in Applied Linguistics at the University of Melbourne..
Tertiary Entrance Rank of 95.25

Hang on a second, YOU have a LINGUISTICS Degree? Your posting style isn't doing any favors to that degree, mate.

Andi-M
05-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Nadal 6/1 6/1 6/4. Vamos.

Goldenoldie
05-28-2009, 11:18 AM
hewitt has changed as a man, from a bratty kid to a respected mature likeable adult. and its all because of his beautiful wife rebecca cartwright. rebecca was an actress in an aussie drama called home and away and she sounds like such a kind and nice person, im sure she changed hewitt for the better.

If that's true, I hope Andy Murray gets married this week!;)

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 11:22 AM
Here's a link to an article about the incident.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/usopen/3011926/US-Open-Crowd-chide-racist-Hewitt.html

If the assertion is that he was merely berating the linesman for his supposedly poor calls, then his semantics were a bit off. Why would he say "look at him and tell me what the similarity is." To be a similarity, there has to be some comparison. The "similarity" between who and who or who and what?

The article says he "beckoned" toward Blake when he made this remark. But it doesn't really matter if he did or not, he had to be comparing the lineman to someone or something else. He wasn't comparing the lineman to himself.

:wavey:
Hewitt said he was inferring the similarity between all the foot faults, as in `isn`t it a coincidence that one linesman foot faulted me 3 times yet none of the other linesmen did`;)

Keep in mind that Lleyton finished school at age 15, and before that he practiced so much that he had little time for reading books and getting an education. Thus, while it wasn`t a smart thing to say there wasn`t anything racist about it;)

Big difference suggesting that one linesman is making lots of dodgy calls, to then make the leap that someone must be racist..

Tiger Woods has used the word `retard` a couple of times but he never got vilified by the media the way Hewitt did:sad: A lot of double standards:eek:

Ackms421
05-28-2009, 11:34 AM
I wasn't saying necessarily that he it was a racist remark, though the article does say he beckoned towards Blake. Of course this article isn't necessarily a canon record of those events. I'm not really sure what I really believe, but I thought your earlier post was a little misleading about what the actual facts were.

Ackms421
05-28-2009, 11:37 AM
I keep leaving this out. The most damning thing, IMO, is that he said *look* at him, as if something visual was the basis of the argument.

Commander Data
05-28-2009, 11:48 AM
People are taking comments and gestures from players on court way too serious! They have an adrenalin rush and this guys want to win very badly, sometimes they will just talk BS without thinking. One should not analyse this things so closely and talk about them for years thereafter. :rolleyes:

StevoTG
05-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Here's a link to an article about the incident.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/usopen/3011926/US-Open-Crowd-chide-racist-Hewitt.html

If the assertion is that he was merely berating the linesman for his supposedly poor calls, then his semantics were a bit off. Why would he say "look at him and tell me what the similarity is." To be a similarity, there has to be some comparison. The "similarity" between who and who or who and what?

The article says he "beckoned" toward Blake when he made this remark. But it doesn't really matter if he did or not, he had to be comparing the lineman to someone or something else. He wasn't comparing the lineman to himself.

The thing is, he was comparing the linesman to the (same) linesman. As if to say in an aggressive/smart-ass way 'what is the similarity between the two linesman who have foot faulted me?.. oh that's right, they are the same effing person! I want him gone!'.. which in its self is not a smart thing to say, even if the line judge was later sacked for betting on matches. I'm not denying that Hewitt went OTT and was a bit of a terror when he was younger, but he's not a racist.

Auscon
05-28-2009, 12:14 PM
Lleytons given Rafa pretty respectable tests both times he's played him at RG, but post op I don't think he's in quite the shape he would've been in 06/07.

Nadal should take it in 3, but I'll never count Lleyton out

born_on_clay
05-28-2009, 12:33 PM
easy one for Rafa :)

NOTHINGMAN
05-28-2009, 12:41 PM
Hewitt will win in 5 after spending the first 2 sets looking nervous and playing with his tennis strings.

save ausdecline
05-28-2009, 12:53 PM
if hewitt takes a set off. i will come to school nude. kidding. im not game enough

fast_clay
05-28-2009, 01:47 PM
hahahaha... anyone who saw hewitt in his presser after that 'incident' could see that hewitt was genuinely taken aback by the line of questioning referring to a perceived racial tone... i saw the match and he was referring to the guy down one end who needed to pull his head out of arse as far as hewitt was concerned...

the simple act of asking one question in regards to race that day opened yet another gateway for the knockers to get their hate on even more... had their been no question, i wouldn't be getting my clydey-style-defensive-game-face on right now...

so... get a f***ing railway sleeper up ya's all... pack of f***headz..

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 02:22 PM
hahahaha... anyone who saw hewitt in his presser after that 'incident' could see that hewitt was genuinely taken aback by the line of questioning referring to a perceived racial tone... i saw the match and he was referring to the guy down one end who needed to pull his head out of arse as far as hewitt was concerned...

the simple act of asking one question in regards to race that day opened yet another gateway for the knockers to get their hate on even more... had their been no question, i wouldn't be getting my clydey-style-defensive-game-face on right now...

so... get a f***ing railway sleeper up ya's all... pack of f***headz..

:cool:
well said;)

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I keep leaving this out. The most damning thing, IMO, is that he said *look* at him, as if something visual was the basis of the argument.


:rolleyes:
You`ve already made up your mind haven`t you Ackms:confused:
You want Hewitt to be racist because it fits your dislike of him..
Lleyton`s been on the tour 12 years and the best his haters could do is continue to reference an incident that happened 8 years ago where he gets pissed at an linesman for giving him multiple foot faults.. The USO tourney officials and ITF reviewed the footage and found no evidence of any racism, but that wasn`t good enough for Hewitt`s haters, because they`d already made up their minds-- guilty as presumed.. One of Hewitt`s haters even admitted to having a voodoo doll against Satan Llegs:devil:

Think what you want to think, ignore the facts, good job;)
BTW, I must be racist against black people, because I think Serena`s overweight, I`m racist against white people, because I think George Bush was a terrible president, racist against Asian people, because I think China`s government is dangerous... that`s where political correctness will take you>>:sad:

Ilovetheblues_86
05-28-2009, 02:46 PM
Go Hewitt! Show who is the GOAT!

SheepleBuster
05-28-2009, 02:56 PM
Discuss. I think the scrappy ole Aussie has one great match left in him. Probably will take a set.

Hewitt will take 8 games. 6/4 6/3 6/1

Har-Tru
05-28-2009, 03:14 PM
That was a racist comment by Hewitt. Can't see how people can deny that.

scarecrows
05-28-2009, 03:19 PM
That was a racist comment by Hewitt. Can't see how people can deny that.

yeah, trying to find all sorts of excuses when the facts are clear

he might have softened up lately but he still remains one of the rudest players of the last decade

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 03:30 PM
That was a racist comment by Hewitt. Can't see how people can deny that.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
So the ITF & USO officials review of the `lack of` evidence means nothing..
They must be in denial:confused:

Angle Queen
05-28-2009, 03:33 PM
I fail to see what relevance arguing over a years-old incident has to do with...the upcoming match between Nadal and Hewitt. :rolleyes:

marcRD
05-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Look at the opponents Nadal might face in the QF:

Nikolay Davydenko RUS (10)
v
Stanislas Wawrinka SUI (17)

Nicolas Almagro ESP (31)
v
Fernando Verdasco ESP (8)

Except Almagro these are absolutely great players with capacity to challenge Nadal, if Hewitt and Ferrer make Nadal fight hard, then it is possible that whoever wins that very competitive quarter might be ready to go for the kill against Nadal.

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 03:38 PM
yeah, trying to find all sorts of excuses when the facts are clear

he might have softened up lately but he still remains one of the rudest players of the last decade


:rolleyes:
Have you ever heard Hewitt do an interview?? Actually he`s one of the more polite players addressing questions, and speaks respectfully about nearly all the other players [excepting Coria & Nalbandian];)

Angle Queen
05-28-2009, 03:39 PM
Look at the opponents Nadal might face in the QF:

Nikolay Davydenko RUS (10)
v
Stanislas Wawrinka SUI (17)

Nicolas Almagro ESP (31)
v
Fernando Verdasco ESP (8)

Except Almagro these are absolutely great players with capacity to challenge Nadal, if Hewitt and Ferrer make Nadal fight hard, then it is possible that whoever wins that very competitive quarter might be ready to go for the kill against Nadal.Thanks for getting us back on-topic.

Of those four, I like Davy's chances the least, Verdasco's the best. Guess we'll just have to see. I suppose...that's why they actually play the match instead of letting the seedings, fans or gamblers decide. :lol:

Fiberlight1
05-28-2009, 03:50 PM
Anytime you get beat 61 62 by Nadal on a very-fast olympian hard court... you're in for a long day at the office on clay..

I don't care how his hip was then, there is NO way Hewitt will take a set off of Nadal with that weak serve.

Fiberlight1
05-28-2009, 03:52 PM
Look at the opponents Nadal might face in the QF:

Nikolay Davydenko RUS (10)
v
Stanislas Wawrinka SUI (17)

Nicolas Almagro ESP (31)
v
Fernando Verdasco ESP (8)

Except Almagro these are absolutely great players with capacity to challenge Nadal, if Hewitt and Ferrer make Nadal fight hard, then it is possible that whoever wins that very competitive quarter might be ready to go for the kill against Nadal.

Any of those players could push the other to five sets.. I doubt they'll be very fresh heading into a QF with Nadal.

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 03:54 PM
Anytime you get beat 61 62 by Nadal on a very-fast olympian hard court... you're in for a long day at the office on clay..

I don't care how his hip was then, there is NO way Hewitt will take a set off of Nadal with that weak serve.


Ignoring that Hewitt has already defeated Nadal 4 times, plus he`s taken 2 sets off Nadal on clay [06 FO and 07 Hamburg]..:rolleyes::confused:

scarecrows
05-28-2009, 03:59 PM
:rolleyes:
Have you ever heard Hewitt do an interview?? Actually he`s one of the more polite players addressing questions, and speaks respectfully about nearly all the other players [excepting Coria & Nalbandian];)

I dont care about interviews or how much he loves his grandmother

Fiberlight1
05-28-2009, 04:01 PM
Ignoring that Hewitt has already defeated Nadal 4 times, plus he`s taken 2 sets off Nadal on clay [06 FO and 07 Hamburg]..:rolleyes::confused:

Ignoring the fact that Nadal hasn't dropped a set on RG since 2007 and Hewitt has only gotten worse and less fit?

He beat Nadal twice in 2004, once in 2005 and once in 2006 at Queens by retirement..

In 2006 and 2007 Nadal also lost sets to PHM, Davy and a match to Federer, but he still swept the entire field. The point is many players have beaten Nadal in the past or taken a set but this Nadal is not the same as the old Nadal.

fast_clay
05-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Ignoring the fact that Nadal hasn't dropped a set on RG since 2007 and Hewitt has only gotten worse and less fit?

He beat Nadal twice in 2004, once in 2005 and once in 2006 at Queens by retirement..

In 2006 Nadal also lost sets to PHM, Davy and a match to Federer, but he still swept the entire field. The point is many players have beaten Nadal in the past or taken a set but this Nadal is not the same as the old Nadal.

ahh.. just throw a lazy 20 on hewitt anyways... nice odds... you never know... rafa's kneecap might pop off his knee mid slide and injure a spectator... hewitt could be rafa's waterloo...

Har-Tru
05-28-2009, 04:56 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
So the ITF & USO officials review of the `lack of` evidence means nothing..
They must be in denial:confused:

I don't give a shit about what the ITF or the USO or the WTF say. I have my own eyes and ears.

W!MBLEDON
05-28-2009, 06:04 PM
well start FedFan_2007

Swiss Mountain
05-28-2009, 07:48 PM
No way, Nadal will pass Hewitt easily I think

steffis
05-28-2009, 08:14 PM
Look at the opponents Nadal might face in the QF:

Nikolay Davydenko RUS (10)
v
Stanislas Wawrinka SUI (17)

Nicolas Almagro ESP (31)
v
Fernando Verdasco ESP (8)

Except Almagro these are absolutely great players with capacity to challenge Nadal, if Hewitt and Ferrer make Nadal fight hard, then it is possible that whoever wins that very competitive quarter might be ready to go for the kill against Nadal.

That sounds as if Nadal has to play all of them at the same time in the quarterfinals :):):)
Anyway, I think it's not an easy draw for Rafa.

MrChopin
05-28-2009, 08:58 PM
Nadal should pay Hewitt back for the racist remark during that James Blake match a few years ago at US Open, should beat him 6-0 6-0 6-2 (Hewitt is a fighter you know he'll get a couple of games in the end).

Are you saying that Nadal does not always play for the side of right and virtue, defending the weak, crushing the arrogant, feeding the poor, giving homes to the homeless... all sufferers throughout history?

r2473
05-28-2009, 09:42 PM
Rafael Nadal will be Hewittized in 3rd round

Are we to assume that "Hewittized" means "win easily in straight sets"?

ballbasher101
05-28-2009, 09:49 PM
I fear for Hewitt, he might get humiliated by Nadal tomorrow. Nadal to win in three easy sets.

Warrior
05-28-2009, 09:53 PM
Hewitt will be Nadulled in the 3rd round

Hugh Jaas
05-28-2009, 09:57 PM
To the OP:

http://pics.livejournal.com/twoflower/pic/00023gph




don't be a complete toolbag to the OP . Spartan Rafa fans show respect to all enemies before the battle. When Lleyton meets the clay god he will ...







... pray for death.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x194/ilovemylife5/Rafael%20Nadal%202008/French%20Magazine%20Rafa%20Pictures/Rafa_Sport_Style_8.jpg?t=1243544340

Commander Data
05-28-2009, 10:04 PM
If Hewitt wins a set Rafa is in troulbe. No way a normal Nadal loses a set to Hewitt at RG.


If hewitt wins I do something crazy..;)

asmazif
05-28-2009, 10:04 PM
Hewitt will dewitt.

tangerine_dream
05-28-2009, 10:12 PM
jonstennistweet please tell me hewitt was being facetious when he called nadal a "slight favorite" to win their match
Hee.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x194/ilovemylife5/Rafael%20Nadal%202008/French%20Magazine%20Rafa%20Pictures/Rafa_Sport_Style_8.jpg?t=1243544340
http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/bull_matador_rose_lg_clr.gif

Hugh Jaas
05-28-2009, 10:14 PM
That was a racist comment by Hewitt. Can't see how people can deny that.

I agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dUGXtiMNqk&fmt=18

CmonAussie
05-28-2009, 11:11 PM
I agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dUGXtiMNqk&fmt=18

Hewitt only ever gestures toward the linesman, so there was never any connection with Blake [you & others pressumed to make this link]..:rolleyes:

Har-Tru
05-29-2009, 12:09 AM
Hewitt only ever gestures toward the linesman, so there was never any connection with Blake [you & others pressumed to make this link]..:rolleyes:

:haha: hilarious mate. I guess he was referring to Bill Cosby then? The linesman did look a bit like him.

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 12:18 AM
Hewitt Can Do It!!
;-)

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 12:24 AM
Anytime you get beat 61 62 by Nadal on a very-fast olympian hard court... you're in for a long day at the office on clay..

I don't care how his hip was then, there is NO way Hewitt will take a set off of Nadal with that weak serve.
Hewitt has taken taken sets off nadal on clay before.

Sunset of Age
05-29-2009, 12:27 AM
Hewitt has taken taken sets off nadal on clay before.

Wasn't that during the Stone Age? :scratch:

fast_clay
05-29-2009, 12:32 AM
:haha: hilarious mate. I guess he was referring to Bill Cosby then? The linesman did look a bit like him.

is it so hard to consider that hewitt was referring to being foot faulted by the same line judge multiple times, and not by the other... yet, not having the umpire acknowledge it...?

so ambiguous is the incident, that the reviewers words were that there was no case to say that is was racism, and no case to say that it wasn't. so ambiguous that it makes it hard to defend...

so, hewitt becomes a victim of his demeanor for the most part...

what is true however, and not subject to ambiguity, is that hewitt does not mention, motion, gesture or shape towards blake when he is referring to the linesman... which, i believe, one would do if you wished to draw a similarity between two people...

no...?

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 12:33 AM
don't be a complete toolbag to the OP . Spartan Rafa fans show respect to all enemies before the battle. When Lleyton meets the clay god he will ...







... pray for death.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x194/ilovemylife5/Rafael%20Nadal%202008/French%20Magazine%20Rafa%20Pictures/Rafa_Sport_Style_8.jpg?t=1243544340
There is a 80'S NINJA movie called "PRAY FOR DEATH"

Hugh Jaas
05-29-2009, 12:42 AM
Wasn't that during the Stone Age? :scratch:

Original hip age I think.


There is a 80'S NINJA movie called "PRAY FOR DEATH"

real world
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089835/

MTF world

I think MTF legend clay death first used the immortal words on these boards
Clay Death shrine thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=135328)

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 01:15 AM
Wasn't that during the Stone Age? :scratch:

:rolleyes:
2007 Hamburg SFs [2 years ago = Stone Age aye:confused:]..

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 01:21 AM
is it so hard to consider that hewitt was referring to being foot faulted by the same line judge multiple times, and not by the other... yet, not having the umpire acknowledge it...?

so ambiguous is the incident, that the reviewers words were that there was no case to say that is was racism, and no case to say that it wasn't. so ambiguous that it makes it hard to defend...

so, hewitt becomes a victim of his demeanor for the most part...

what is true however, and not subject to ambiguity, is that hewitt does not mention, motion, gesture or shape towards blake when he is referring to the linesman... which, i believe, one would do if you wished to draw a similarity between two people...

no...?

:cool:
Good explanation fast clay;)
...
However the haters have made up their mind, Hewitt is Satan:devil:
Why deny the undeniable, if you`re the devil then you`re the devil [a racist bastard too (a given)]:sad:

Richard Williams said "of course Hewitt`s racist, all Australians are racist - just look at the way they treat the aboriginals..."
So if Serena`s dad says we`re all racist (Aussies)~ then it must be true:eek:

Hugh Jaas
05-29-2009, 01:27 AM
:cool:
Good explanation fast clay;)
...
However the haters have made up their mind, Hewitt is Satan:devil:
Why deny the undeniable, if you`re the devil then you`re the devil [a racist bastard too (a given)]:sad:

Richard Williams said "of course Hewitt`s racist, all Australians are racist - just look at the way they treat the aboriginals..."
So if Serena`s dad says we`re all racist (Aussies)~ then it must be true:eek:

but Williams snr isn't in the 3rd rnd of the french open.

Sunset of Age
05-29-2009, 01:27 AM
:rolleyes:
2007 Hamburg SFs [2 years ago = Stone Age aye:confused:]..

Thanks for correcting me, I completely forgot about that one! ;)
Still - Raf in three. No contest at all. :cool:

leng jai
05-29-2009, 01:37 AM
This Karen is arrogant.

Sunset of Age
05-29-2009, 02:03 AM
This Karen is arrogant.

It's Karin. :p
Yes I am. :cool: :angel:

leng jai
05-29-2009, 02:37 AM
It's Karin. :p
Yes I am. :cool: :angel:

Sorry love. Thats the first time I've spelt your name wrong, no?

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 03:00 AM
Thanks for correcting me, I completely forgot about that one! ;)
Still - Raf in three. No contest at all. :cool:

:wavey:
No worries..

Actually Hewitt came very close to defeating Nadal in that 2007 SF.. 7-5 in the 3rd to Nadal.

Har-Tru
05-29-2009, 03:00 AM
is it so hard to consider that hewitt was referring to being foot faulted by the same line judge multiple times, and not by the other... yet, not having the umpire acknowledge it...?

so ambiguous is the incident, that the reviewers words were that there was no case to say that is was racism, and no case to say that it wasn't. so ambiguous that it makes it hard to defend...

so, hewitt becomes a victim of his demeanor for the most part...

Again, to me, the ambiguity in this case is absolutely inexistent. By "just look at him, look at him and tell me what the similarity is" he meant the linesman was, like Blake, of at least partial African-American ancestry. And again, honestly, I believe this is quite clear.

what is true however, and not subject to ambiguity, is that hewitt does not mention, motion, gesture or shape towards blake when he is referring to the linesman... which, i believe, one would do if you wished to draw a similarity between two people...

no...?

No. That would have been a rather unnatural thing to do in that situation in my view.

:cool:
Good explanation fast clay;)
...
However the haters have made up their mind, Hewitt is Satan:devil:
Why deny the undeniable, if you`re the devil then you`re the devil [a racist bastard too (a given)]:sad:

Richard Williams said "of course Hewitt`s racist, all Australians are racist - just look at the way they treat the aboriginals..."
So if Serena`s dad says we`re all racist (Aussies)~ then it must be true:eek:

Putting made-up words into other people's mouths. Nice.

By the way, I don't believe Hewitt is a bad guy, I don't dislike him at all. I don't even think he's racist really, I think he was just pissed off and made an unfortunate racial remark when cameras where rolling.

Mimi
05-29-2009, 03:07 AM
:ras:

Johnny Groove
05-29-2009, 03:11 AM
At least Hewitt will put up a fight.

fast_clay
05-29-2009, 03:16 AM
No. That would have been a rather unnatural thing to do in that situation in my view.



fair enough...

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 04:04 AM
Again, to me, the ambiguity in this case is absolutely inexistent. By "just look at him, look at him and tell me what the similarity is" he meant the linesman was, like Blake, of at least partial African-American ancestry. And again, honestly, I believe this is quite clear.



No. That would have been a rather unnatural thing to do in that situation in my view.



Putting made-up words into other people's mouths. Nice.

By the way, I don't believe Hewitt is a bad guy, I don't dislike him at all. I don't even think he's racist really, I think he was just pissed off and made an unfortunate racial remark when cameras where rolling.

That is a cheap cop-out to say 'when the cameras were rolling' , because racism when the cameras are not rolling is equally as bad. When I hear of someone saying something racist I can't imagine myself ever saying it nomatter how enraged I am, it takes a certain kind of person to even think those thoughts let alone say them. It says a lot about Hewitt that his instinct led him to make that remark. Just as was the case with Kramer in the nightclub, his instinct came out, and then he was like 'i'm not a racist person'. Those kind of things aren't accidental, they are part of the person's make-up, racism isn't a 'heat of the moment thing', it is an evil that some people possess usually because of their poor upbringing.

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 05:09 AM
Putting made-up words into other people's mouths. Nice.

By the way, I don't believe Hewitt is a bad guy, I don't dislike him at all. I don't even think he's racist really, I think he was just pissed off and made an unfortunate racial remark when cameras where rolling.

<><>
No actually I was quoting what Richard Williams said at the time;)
After the `so-called Blake incident`[actually Hewitt just getting pissed at a lineseman, who was later fired for illegal betting on tennis matches] ~~the American media naturally were keen to get a quote from the controversial father of Serena & Venus..

If you really want I can do a web search and find Richard Williams exact words but his quote [from September 2001] went something along the lines::
~~"Of course Hewitt is racist, all Australians are racist, just look at the way they treat Aboriginals...":eek:

FedFan_2007
05-29-2009, 05:16 AM
C'Mon llegs make it a match at least!

*bunny*
05-29-2009, 05:18 AM
From Rafa's Times blog for today.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/rafael_nadal/2009/05/anxious-for-revenge-on-lleyton-for-a-golf-thrashing.html

I play Lleyton Hewitt who by the way I like a lot as a person. I have had the chance to know him these years I have been playing and he has always been very nice to me, and I am very thankful.

I'm inclined to believe someone like Rafa who knows Lleyton in person, rather than some random tennis fans. :)

Hope it will be another great match between them! :yeah:

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 05:23 AM
From Rafa's Times blog for today.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/rafael_nadal/2009/05/anxious-for-revenge-on-lleyton-for-a-golf-thrashing.html

I play Lleyton Hewitt who by the way I like a lot as a person. I have had the chance to know him these years I have been playing and he has always been very nice to me, and I am very thankful.

I'm inclined to believe someone like Rafa who knows Lleyton in person, rather than some random tennis fans. :)

Hope it will be another great match between them! :yeah:

:cool:
Cheers Bunny;)
...
Pretty much all the players get along well with Hewitt, the only guys who he`s had issues with are Chela, Coria, & Nalbandian.. So I guess Hewitt haters can make a case that Lleyton is racist against Argentinians:eek: [BTW, Hewitt & Gaudio are good mates:angel:].

*bunny*
05-29-2009, 05:26 AM
:cool:
Cheers Bunny;)
...
Pretty much all the players get along well with Hewitt, the only guys who he`s had issues with are Chela, Coria, & Nalbandian.. So I guess Hewitt haters can make a case that Lleyton is racist against Argentinians:eek: [BTW, Hewitt & Gaudio are good mates:angel:].
Yeah, JMDP admires Lleyton too. :)

modern tennis
05-29-2009, 05:30 AM
this match will be a good indicator of whether nadal will win the french this year or not.

FedFan_2007
05-29-2009, 05:31 AM
Karin - Hewitt will take a set.

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 05:41 AM
www.theage.com.au
Showtime for Nadal, Hewitt
Will Swanton
May 29, 2009


Lleyton Hewitt fires back a return on the way to setting up a clash with Rafael Nadal.

RAFAEL Nadal respects Lleyton Hewitt. It stems from the Davis Cup final between Australia and Spain in 2000. Inside a seething arena called Palau Sant Jordi, Hewitt scrapped and clawed his way through two thunderous singles matches on clay while a 14-year-old kid, having carried the Spanish flag into the opening ceremony, sat courtside with his jaw to the floor in awe. The kid was Nadal.

Hewitt has no recollection of Nadal being there, but the current world No. 1 watched every point as Hewitt fought his way past Albert Costa in five sets on day one. An injured Pat Rafter quit his singles against Juan Carlos Ferrero, Sandon Stolle and Mark Woodforde lost the doubles and then Hewitt went down to Ferrero in four gruelling sets for Spain to win its first Davis Cup.

Hewitt was 19. It was a turning point in his career. Hewitt went on to achieve the Herculean feat of beating Pete Sampras at Flushing Meadows to win the US Open, get his hands on the holiest of holies, the Wimbledon trophy, and become the youngest world No. 1.

Nadal was only a blip on the radar when Hewitt became king but he's seen first-hand one invaluable character trait they share — grit.

Two of the best fighters in sport will slug it out in the third round of the French Open tonight. Hewitt is coming off a gruelling five-setter against Croatian giant Ivo Karlovic and a straight-sets demolition of Kazakhstan's Andrey Golubev.

Nadal has marched to 30 straight wins in Paris in his attempt to break Bjorn Borg's benchmark of four straight victories. Nadal's career is flying in a way the 14-year-old at Palau Sant Jordi wouldn't have dared contemplate while Hewitt is hanging on for grim life, returning from hip surgery.

"He (Nadal) is the man to beat here and he has been for the last four or five years now," Hewitt said. "So I'll go out there and play my game and hopefully I can have one of my best matches."

Nadal humbled Russian Teimuraz Gabashvili 6-1, 6-4, 6-2 to reach his 30-0 win-loss ratio at Roland Garros, a record in the Open era.

When reporters started gushing about his winning streak, he replied: "So what? Happy for this record, but important thing is have good result, play my best tennis and try to be there the second Sunday, no? Always it's a very tough match to play against Lleyton. I have to play well to have chances to win."

Their head-to-head record is 4-4, but Hewitt hasn't won since Queens three years ago. There is no way of underestimating the enormity of the task of playing Nadal on clay. But all through his recovery from surgery, this is what Hewitt was craving, getting back in the ring with the heavyweights.


1-RAFAEL NADAL (Spa) v LLEYTON HEWITT (Aus)
Head-to-head 4-4 (2-2 at grand slams)

2004 Australian Open (hard)Hewitt 7-6 (7-2), 7-6 (7-5), 6-2


2004 Toronto (hard)Hewitt 1-6, 6-4, 6-2


2005 Australian Open (hard)Hewitt 7-5, 3-6, 1-6, 7-6 (7-3), 6-2


2006 French Open (clay)Nadal 6-2, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2


2006 Queen's (grass)Hewitt 3-6, 6-3 retired


2007 Hamburg (clay)Nadal 2-6, 6-3, 7-5


2007 French Open (clay)Nadal 6-3, 6-1, 7-6 (7-5)


2008 Beijing Olympics (hard) Nadal 6-1, 6-2

Huntress555
05-29-2009, 05:55 AM
I'm pumped for this match. I hope Lleyton can put up a real fight.
I'm not expecting him to win but man it would be fantastic if he did :)

modern tennis
05-29-2009, 05:58 AM
www.theage.com.au
Showtime for Nadal, Hewitt
Will Swanton
May 29, 2009


Lleyton Hewitt fires back a return on the way to setting up a clash with Rafael Nadal.

RAFAEL Nadal respects Lleyton Hewitt. It stems from the Davis Cup final between Australia and Spain in 2000. Inside a seething arena called Palau Sant Jordi, Hewitt scrapped and clawed his way through two thunderous singles matches on clay while a 14-year-old kid, having carried the Spanish flag into the opening ceremony, sat courtside with his jaw to the floor in awe. The kid was Nadal.

Hewitt has no recollection of Nadal being there, but the current world No. 1 watched every point as Hewitt fought his way past Albert Costa in five sets on day one. An injured Pat Rafter quit his singles against Juan Carlos Ferrero, Sandon Stolle and Mark Woodforde lost the doubles and then Hewitt went down to Ferrero in four gruelling sets for Spain to win its first Davis Cup.

Hewitt was 19. It was a turning point in his career. Hewitt went on to achieve the Herculean feat of beating Pete Sampras at Flushing Meadows to win the US Open, get his hands on the holiest of holies, the Wimbledon trophy, and become the youngest world No. 1.

Nadal was only a blip on the radar when Hewitt became king but he's seen first-hand one invaluable character trait they share — grit.

Two of the best fighters in sport will slug it out in the third round of the French Open tonight. Hewitt is coming off a gruelling five-setter against Croatian giant Ivo Karlovic and a straight-sets demolition of Kazakhstan's Andrey Golubev.

Nadal has marched to 30 straight wins in Paris in his attempt to break Bjorn Borg's benchmark of four straight victories. Nadal's career is flying in a way the 14-year-old at Palau Sant Jordi wouldn't have dared contemplate while Hewitt is hanging on for grim life, returning from hip surgery.

"He (Nadal) is the man to beat here and he has been for the last four or five years now," Hewitt said. "So I'll go out there and play my game and hopefully I can have one of my best matches."

Nadal humbled Russian Teimuraz Gabashvili 6-1, 6-4, 6-2 to reach his 30-0 win-loss ratio at Roland Garros, a record in the Open era.

When reporters started gushing about his winning streak, he replied: "So what? Happy for this record, but important thing is have good result, play my best tennis and try to be there the second Sunday, no? Always it's a very tough match to play against Lleyton. I have to play well to have chances to win."

Their head-to-head record is 4-4, but Hewitt hasn't won since Queens three years ago. There is no way of underestimating the enormity of the task of playing Nadal on clay. But all through his recovery from surgery, this is what Hewitt was craving, getting back in the ring with the heavyweights.


1-RAFAEL NADAL (Spa) v LLEYTON HEWITT (Aus)
Head-to-head 4-4 (2-2 at grand slams)

2004 Australian Open (hard)Hewitt 7-6 (7-2), 7-6 (7-5), 6-2


2004 Toronto (hard)Hewitt 1-6, 6-4, 6-2


2005 Australian Open (hard)Hewitt 7-5, 3-6, 1-6, 7-6 (7-3), 6-2


2006 French Open (clay)Nadal 6-2, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2


2006 Queen's (grass)Hewitt 3-6, 6-3 retired


2007 Hamburg (clay)Nadal 2-6, 6-3, 7-5


2007 French Open (clay)Nadal 6-3, 6-1, 7-6 (7-5)


2008 Beijing Olympics (hard) Nadal 6-1, 6-2



nadal and hewitt has huge respect for eachother. they are both fighters with a never give up attitude. i think nadal respects all the main guys from federer's generation like federer, hewiit, roddick, safin, ferrero and nalbandian.

modern tennis
05-29-2009, 06:17 AM
Hello everyone,

Had a nice day today. I like the fact to play the match the day before and today simply wake up thinking I have to go to the tournament site to practice and work on some specific things. I say this since yesterday with the rain there we could have not finished the match. I said it yesterday and I repeat it today. It is very inconvenient at a tournament like this to have to play everyday. Like this, with no play today, things are easier since I just got to the courts in the morning, practiced at 11am, ate, and attended a promotional activity with the Balearic Islands people and government.

You all know, the ones who follow me, that I am always referring to the Balearic Island as my favourite place for holidays. I really like the place, and I am lucky to have been born there since I have it right there. Sure that there are a lot of places out there in the world that are really nice and interesting, but I am honest, very honest when I say that my favorite place are the Balearic Islands. I find it a place where you can find almost everything. Nice weather, nice locations like beaches, cities, culture, food, nice people... in the end this is it. So believe me I am honest when I say this. And I went to their gig today since I am also collaborating with them in the promotion of the islands. Tourism is very important there, the main industry, so it just makes sense.

Well, tomorrow more competition for me and a great match for the fans. I play Lleyton Hewitt who by the way I like a lot as a person. I have had the chance to know him these years I have been playing and he has always been very nice to me, and I am very thankful. Maybe the only exception is when we played golf last year in Miami and he literally killed me... Since them we haven't played again and I am really looking forward to that. But seriously now, tomorrow it will be a great match, I am sure, and I am really excited about this one.

Thanks all.
Rafa


http://timesonline.typepad.com/rafael_nadal/2009/05/anxious-for-revenge-on-lleyton-for-a-golf-thrashing.html

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 06:20 AM
Hello everyone,

Had a nice day today. I like the fact to play the match the day before and today simply wake up thinking I have to go to the tournament site to practice and work on some specific things. I say this since yesterday with the rain there we could have not finished the match. I said it yesterday and I repeat it today. It is very inconvenient at a tournament like this to have to play everyday. Like this, with no play today, things are easier since I just got to the courts in the morning, practiced at 11am, ate, and attended a promotional activity with the Balearic Islands people and government.

You all know, the ones who follow me, that I am always referring to the Balearic Island as my favourite place for holidays. I really like the place, and I am lucky to have been born there since I have it right there. Sure that there are a lot of places out there in the world that are really nice and interesting, but I am honest, very honest when I say that my favorite place are the Balearic Islands. I find it a place where you can find almost everything. Nice weather, nice locations like beaches, cities, culture, food, nice people... in the end this is it. So believe me I am honest when I say this. And I went to their gig today since I am also collaborating with them in the promotion of the islands. Tourism is very important there, the main industry, so it just makes sense.

Well, tomorrow more competition for me and a great match for the fans. I play Lleyton Hewitt who by the way I like a lot as a person. I have had the chance to know him these years I have been playing and he has always been very nice to me, and I am very thankful. Maybe the only exception is when we played golf last year in Miami and he literally killed me... Since them we haven't played again and I am really looking forward to that. But seriously now, tomorrow it will be a great match, I am sure, and I am really excited about this one.

Thanks all.
Rafa


http://timesonline.typepad.com/rafael_nadal/2009/05/anxious-for-revenge-on-lleyton-for-a-golf-thrashing.html

:cool:
Rafa`s a legend & a top bloke.:worship:

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 06:25 AM
That is a cheap cop-out to say 'when the cameras were rolling' , because racism when the cameras are not rolling is equally as bad. When I hear of someone saying something racist I can't imagine myself ever saying it nomatter how enraged I am, it takes a certain kind of person to even think those thoughts let alone say them. It says a lot about Hewitt that his instinct led him to make that remark. Just as was the case with Kramer in the nightclub, his instinct came out, and then he was like 'i'm not a racist person'. Those kind of things aren't accidental, they are part of the person's make-up, racism isn't a 'heat of the moment thing', it is an evil that some people possess usually because of their poor upbringing.

:eek:
So now you`re saying Hewitt is "evil":devil::confused:
[Based on your assumptions of what Hewitt meant when he criticised a linesman in 2001..?]
...
theRAFA, why don`t you listen to what the real RAFA thinks of Hewitt;)

"Well, tomorrow more competition for me and a great match for the fans. I play Lleyton Hewitt who by the way I like a lot as a person. I have had the chance to know him these years I have been playing and he has always been very nice to me, and I am very thankful. Maybe the only exception is when we played golf last year in Miami and he literally killed me... Since them we haven't played again and I am really looking forward to that. But seriously now, tomorrow it will be a great match, I am sure, and I am really excited about this one.

Thanks all.
Rafa"
:)
:p

Audacity
05-29-2009, 06:52 AM
I think theRAFA needs to bend over for Nadal and stop hating on every other player. Fans like he/she only make me dislike Rafa himself, who I'm sure is a nice guy.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-29-2009, 06:57 AM
Mortified, Petrified, Hewittized. By you.

Nadal to Hewitt, 05/29/2009.

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 06:58 AM
If you like Hewitt I have no problem with that, but don't expect others to like him, this board is not your dictatorship so don't tell others who they can and can't like, and I don't know why you keep mentioning Nadal, his relationship with Hewitt is nothing to do with me, I couldn't care less who a tennis player likes, I follow tennis, not tennis players personal lives....

bad gambler
05-29-2009, 06:58 AM
c'mon

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 07:17 AM
If you like Hewitt I have no problem with that, but don't expect others to like him, this board is not your dictatorship so don't tell others who they can and can't like, and I don't know why you keep mentioning Nadal, his relationship with Hewitt is nothing to do with me, I couldn't care less who a tennis player likes, I follow tennis, not tennis players personal lives....


:p
Again you fail to see the irony in what you`re saying, with a username like theRAFA your rocky foundations are collapsing beneath your own hypocrisy..;)

Seriously RAFA would be ashamed if he knew you were trying to associate with him.. Time to change that username Mr.Fairyfloss--Fanboy:cuckoo:

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 07:40 AM
I think we are all ashamed that you are on this messageboard, you are a drama queen giving Australia a bad name, much like Leyton.

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 07:47 AM
I think we are all ashamed that you are on this messageboard, you are a drama queen giving Australia a bad name, much like Leyton.

Learn some manners, and show respect towards your elders, I`ve been on MTF since 2002, whereas you joined in 2009.. Your poor attitude won`t win you many friends around here;)

Mimi
05-29-2009, 07:54 AM
CmonAussie is a nice poster :hug:

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 07:57 AM
She is a nice poster now that she's on my Ignore List yes :D

Mimi
05-29-2009, 08:04 AM
its a he, if you think he is bad, then its difficult for you to talk with others, there are lots worst than him ;)

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 08:14 AM
CmonAussie is a nice poster :hug:

Thanks mimi:hug:
...
Sorry i don`t mean to argue with people like theRAFA, but it makes me very upset when anyone gets falsely accused of being racist [not a nice label], without evidence:sad:

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 08:16 AM
No, I've only had to INGORE LIST one other user EVER! So you are wrong Mimi.


Show more respect to Mimi, she`s been here longer than you- and you can learn from her polite & friendly style;)

BTW, I am a 31 year old guy, born in Australia and living in Japan. I`ve been watching tennis live ever since the early 1980s at Kooyong.. Attended the last Aussie Open on grass and lucky enough to see the Edberg--Cash epic final live in 1987..

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 08:17 AM
No, I've only had to IGNORE LIST one other user EVER! So you are wrong Mimi.

CmonAussie
05-29-2009, 08:19 AM
No, I've only had to IGNORE LIST one other user EVER! So you are wrong Mimi.

I`ve been on MTF 7 years and I`ve never even made an IGNORE LIST, because as an adult i don`t resort to such immature behaviour;)

Mimi
05-29-2009, 08:21 AM
you are weclome Cmon Aussie :angel:

honestly, i didn't much like Hewitt in the past, coz seems too annoying on court, i don't think he is racist, just getting fled up with the linesman, he was not acting very nicely at that time, but no one is perfect, he behaves much better now and this is the most important thing, i guess we also behaved a bit wrongly when we were younger, every one deserves a second chance :wavey:

FedFan_2007
05-29-2009, 08:29 AM
C'mon!!!!

Erica86
05-29-2009, 08:36 AM
If Rafa sleeps very badly, feels a little sick and he has somehow a physical problem...
yes he might lose a set against Hewit.

FedFan_2007
05-29-2009, 08:38 AM
First set will be close, if Hewitt can take it then the match might go 5. But Rafa will still win.

ossie
05-29-2009, 08:50 AM
First set will be close, if Hewitt can take it then the match might go 5. But Rafa will still win.get serious :rolleyes:

Ackms421
05-29-2009, 08:55 AM
I don't think C'mon Aussie is bad. I just think he feels as if he has to defend Hewitt. I don't know if Hewitt is a racist, but he did make a racist comment. You can dress up "look at him and tell me what the similarity is" but you cannot change it. If he was referring to bad calls, he wouldn't have instructed the chair to *look* at him. There would be no need to *look*. If you watch the video, IMO, it is clear what Hewitt's point was there.

2003
05-29-2009, 08:56 AM
Go get a real education (btw "I" before "E" except AFTER "C" when you spell preconceived) before you lecture me about what really happened :wavey:

Good point, however that rule is stupid and is violated more than it is upheld.

Science being the prime example.

Ackms421
05-29-2009, 09:07 AM
I just tried to look up Hewitt and Blake's transcripts from this match, and what I found is hilarious. This is the link to the approprate day at the USO.

http://www.asapsports.com/show_event.php?category=7&date=2001-8-31&title=US+OPEN

On that list you will see Hewitt's name. It is at this link:

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=21236

:tape: :tape: :tape:

Lol...Blake's interview is also there at this link:

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=23563

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 09:15 AM
I just tried to look up Hewitt and Blake's transcripts from this match, and what I found is hilarious. This is the link to the approprate day at the USO.

http://www.asapsports.com/show_event.php?category=7&date=2001-8-31&title=US+OPEN

On that list you will see Hewitt's name. It is at this link:

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=21236

:tape: :tape: :tape:

Lol...Blake's interview is also there at this link:

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=23563

US OPEN


August 31, 2001


Lleyton Hewitt

NEW YORK CITY


LLEYTON HEWITT: Change him. Change him. I have only been footfaulted at one end. Okay. Look at him. Look at him and you tell me what the similarity is. Just get him off the court. Look at what he's done.

End of FastScripts....

That gets my vote for funniest thing of the decade :yeah::yippee:

HeretiC
05-29-2009, 09:31 AM
Someone will see it as a racial comment from Hewitt, but someone might see it even as a racist behavior from the linesman toward Hewitt (foot faults only from him and after being repositioned another suspicious call against Hewitt) and Lleyton pointing that to the umpire. Do you really think that anyone in here might change their opinion over the incident no matter what others say?
Let just hope we will have a good match today and leave that in the past, it is just a waste of time talking about it.

Certinfy
05-29-2009, 09:33 AM
I fail to see how this topic returned after 8 years xD

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 09:37 AM
I fail to see how this topic returned after 8 years xD

I just mentioned it in passing (Because its one of the reasons why I like to see Nadal destroy Hewitt) and CmonAussie went all Osama Bin Laden on me.

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 09:40 AM
I just mentioned it in passing (Because its one of the reasons why I like to see Nadal destroy Hewitt) and CmonAussie went all Osama Bin Laden on me.
I don't think you can really just mention something in passing here without starting something lol.

MatchFederer
05-29-2009, 01:41 PM
CmonAussie is one of the nicest and soundest people on this board. If I was gay and he was/is gay, I would totally and utterly want to hook up with him and lean my my head against my hand with my arm on the table while gazing into his eyes with a rye smile listening intently to his tennis knowledge and or background.


You have almost gotta love CmonAussie, he might as well be a living legend.

.. And really CescAndyKimi, how does your position in some top uni justify (presumably this is what you were implying) what you then went on to say. This tactic strikes me as an unintelligent reasoning as it seems to resort to some sort of megalomanic confirmation bias.

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 01:46 PM
CmonAussie is one of the nicest and soundest people on this board. If I was gay and he was/is gay, I would totally and utterly want to hook up with him and lean my my head against my hand with my arm on the table while gazing into his eyes with a rye smile listening intently to his tennis knowledge and or background.


You have almost gotta love CmonAussie, he might as well be a living legend.

.. And really CescAndyKimi, how does your position in some top uni justify (presumably this is what you were implying) what you then went on to say. This tactic strikes me as an unintelligent reasoning as it seems to resort to some sort of megalomanic confirmation bias.

No more megalomanic than CmonAussie's academic claims (which don't ring true to her highly questionable writing ability or lackthereof)....

finishingmove
05-29-2009, 01:47 PM
move this thread to the pashanski forum

this is racizm

NOTHINGMAN
05-29-2009, 01:53 PM
Right now Hewitt is getting pumped in the locker room. COME ON!

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 01:55 PM
No more megalomanic than CmonAussie's academic claims (which don't ring true to her highly questionable writing ability or lackthereof)....
Still putting people down. Does it make you feel good?

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Still putting people down. Does it make you feel good?

You get what you give :wavey: as Aussie is finding out :wavey:

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 02:01 PM
You get what you give :wavey: as Aussie is finding out :wavey:
It's bad karma. Is it your aim to make people feel bad?
Take a chill pill.

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 02:04 PM
It's bad karma. Is your aim to make people feel bad?
Take a chill pill.

It's my aim to have an opinion on Hewitt without being berrated by a Nazi dictator. I allowed her an opinion, she didn't allow me an opinion. You can't expect me to accept that kind of treatment, and the IGNORE LIST was used for just the 2nd time ever, that says it all :o

Looks like you've got the same problem, not allowing others an opinion. If I've been harrassed by another poster I should be able to point that out. Take a chill pill yourself.

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 02:09 PM
It's my aim to have an opinion on Hewitt without being berrated by a Nazi dictator. I allowed her an opinion, she didn't allow me an opinion. You can't expect me to accept that kind of treatment, and the IGNORE LIST was used for just the 2nd time ever, that says it all :o

Looks like you've got the same problem, not allowing others an opinion. If I've been harrassed by another poster I should be able to point that out. Take a chill pill yourself.
Haha, I'm chilled. Lol
You're going overboard.

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 02:10 PM
You're starting an argument, not me. Who needs the chill pill - the instigator.

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 02:12 PM
So hows RAFA gonna do tonight?

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 02:14 PM
You're starting an argument, not me. Who needs the chill pill - the instigator.
Ok you're right. I did put my two cents in. Anyway I hope we get a good match tonight.
:-)

MatchFederer
05-29-2009, 02:15 PM
No more megalomanic than CmonAussie's academic claims (which don't ring true to her highly questionable writing ability or lackthereof)....

Has he used these purported claims to justify his defensive reasoning on something in a condescending manner to a fellow board member? If not could you please tell me of the value in your postulation?

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 02:20 PM
Has he used these purported claims to justify his defensive reasoning on something in a condescending manner to a fellow board member? If not could you please tell me of the value in your postulation?

Boasting of academic records on a messageboard is the very definition of condescending. Speaking of condescending, you've done a pretty good job of being condescending just now.

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 02:27 PM
What is the point of trying to convince someone you are right. In the end you either don't get through to the person or you end up making em feel bad. No one really wins unless you thrive on making someone wrong.

vamosinator
05-29-2009, 02:30 PM
Who cares about right or wrong, I just wanted an opinion. Aussie didn't allow that, attacking me endlessly as though I wasn't allowed to dislike Hewitt. We can't all be fans of Leyton Hewitt. I don't ask Aussie to be a Nadal fan or a Hingis fan, couldn't care less what he says about them. Australia obviously has a different style of how to act in a discussion.

ossie
05-29-2009, 02:36 PM
hewitt is an asshole and he doesnt have to the tennis talent to make up for his character

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 02:43 PM
My words fall on deaf ears.

Reloaded
05-29-2009, 03:00 PM
It's not much of a match yet.

out_here_grindin
05-29-2009, 03:10 PM
Lleyton :sad:

scarecrows
05-29-2009, 03:13 PM
so far so good for Lleyton