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What is the longest undefeated streak in a grandslam?

salut235
05-25-2009, 01:46 PM
Nadal already has won his first 4 french opens, he's undefeated in this tournament. Is this a record for a grandslam on the men's side?

I know that Monica Seles on the women's side had a 33-0 record at the Australian Open. She won 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996 and made the semis in 1999. She had never lost before that semi. I think that was the longest undefeated streak for men & women?

Can anyone confirm? Thanks. Also did Nadal have 28 wins in the first 4 french opens or did he win some matches by default of his opponent? I'm too lazy to check. Nadal might be breaking Seles' record? or someone else owns it?

Black Adam
05-25-2009, 01:53 PM
Federer and Borg at Wimbledon with 41 consecutive wins each. They won 5 in a row and lost in the final whilst going for 6 consecutive titles.

P.S. Don't bother spitting out WTA stats, it's not considered TENNIS around here. Actually, it's rubbish, that's what explains the "extraordinary" records compared to the ATP.

Henry Chinaski
05-25-2009, 02:00 PM
Federer and Borg at Wimbledon with 41 consecutive wins each. They won 5 in a row and lost in teh final whilst going for number 6.

P.S. Don't bother spitting out WTA stats, it's not considered TENNIS around here. Actually, it's rubbish, that's what explains the "extraordinary" records compared to the ATP.

fed had one walkover in that streak, haas in 07.

Bazooka
05-25-2009, 02:01 PM
Fed got one walkover from Haas in 2007. So 40. Borg really did 41.

Black Adam
05-25-2009, 02:12 PM
Thanks for the correction. So, yeah in the open era, Borg has the record of 41 consecutives wins at the same slam.

Big Bill Tilden won 6 Consecutive US opens but I believe in those days that the holdr would only play the final when defending the tournament. i.e Nadal would be waiting in the final to play whoever emerges from the field.

P.S. I need to verify but I am almost certain that he only had to play the final to defend his crown.

EnriqueIG8
05-25-2009, 02:20 PM
Federer is also 5 years undefeated at the US Open right?

Black Adam
05-25-2009, 02:24 PM
Yeah, he is currently on a 35 match winniNg streaK at the USO.

CyBorg
05-25-2009, 02:24 PM
Thanks for the correction. So, yeah in the open era, Borg has the record of 41 consecutives wins at the same slam.

Big Bill Tilden won 6 Consecutive US opens but I believe in those days that the holdr would only play the final when defending the tournament. i.e Nadal would be waiting in the final to play whoever emerges from the field.

P.S. I need to verify but I am almost certain that he only had to play the final to defend his crown.

It's not true. That ended in 1911 or 1912.

salut235
05-25-2009, 08:36 PM
I said UNDEFEATED... meaning that they had never lost in the tournament prior to that streak, starting with the first match they ever played in the tournament... Federer for example had lost matches at the us open before his 5 in a row so it doesn't count. Seles and Nadal never lost in these grandslams and won their "first 33 matches" or "first 28 matches"...

jcreback
05-25-2009, 09:01 PM
Here is the list of longest streaks ever (not what you are asking)

Longest winning streaks at a
Grand Slam, all-time Slam Player Streak
'76-81 Wimbledon B. Borg 41
'03-08 Wimbledon R. Federer 40
'04-08 U.S. Open R. Federer 34
'97-01 Wimbledon P. Sampras 31
'05-09 French Open R. Nadal 29
'78-81 French Open B. Borg 28
'85-88 U.S. Open I. Lendl 27

From this you can tell Nadal's record is the longest from the start of a career.

Tutu
05-25-2009, 11:34 PM
Federer and Borg at Wimbledon with 41 consecutive wins each. They won 5 in a row and lost in the final whilst going for 6 consecutive titles.

P.S. Don't bother spitting out WTA stats, it's not considered TENNIS around here. Actually, it's rubbish, that's what explains the "extraordinary" records compared to the ATP.

:retard: Y'all are such retards.

Garson007
05-25-2009, 11:37 PM
Speaking of which, how many players in the open era - who participated at least once at a certain grand slam - has never been defeated at said grand slam?

Har-Tru
05-25-2009, 11:47 PM
It would be good to know which player holds the record for longest defeated streak in a slam.

LoveFifteen
05-26-2009, 01:15 AM
:retard: Y'all are such retards.

Agreed. It is so disgusting to read men's comments saying that one gender has never produced anyone who can play tennis.

modern tennis
05-26-2009, 01:21 AM
Agreed. It is so disgusting to read men's comments saying that one gender has never produced anyone who can play tennis.

women tennis is not sport, they are a bunch of clowns. they cant even serve a ball, they dont deserve to get any prize money or tv coverage.

groundstroke
05-26-2009, 01:50 AM
14-15 year old male tennis players can beat Top 20 women tennis players, can you see why people dislike women's tennis? It's an absolute disgrace, there isn't one fit woman on the tour (not fit as in she looks gorgeous) but fit as in she has the stamina, strength, etc to last a 4 hour match, they have no clue how to play tennis, just how to bash a ball, with no fitness at all. Look at Safina - world number 1, but she is unbelievablely slow and has no game outside of the baseline..

TennisViewer531
05-26-2009, 01:56 AM
I said UNDEFEATED... meaning that they had never lost in the tournament prior to that streak, starting with the first match they ever played in the tournament... Federer for example had lost matches at the us open before his 5 in a row so it doesn't count. Seles and Nadal never lost in these grandslams and won their "first 33 matches" or "first 28 matches"...

I see. so it's probably Nadal then.. ;)

modern tennis
05-26-2009, 02:56 AM
did anyone hear nadal broke borg's record of most consecutive wins at the french open (borg had 28, nadal now has 29 wins in a row), and equalled the overall record set by chris 'ím a slut' evert of 29 wins in a row at the french.
seems like it got swept under the carpet.

Har-Tru
05-26-2009, 03:37 AM
did anyone hear nadal broke borg's record of most consecutive wins at the french open (borg had 28, nadal now has 29 wins in a row), and equalled the overall record set by chris 'ím a slut' evert of 29 wins in a row at the french.
seems like it got swept under the carpet.

more like everybody-knew-it-was-going-to-happen type of thing

lleytonfan!
05-26-2009, 03:42 AM
Nadal already has won his first 4 french opens, he's undefeated in this tournament. Is this a record for a grandslam on the men's side?

I know that Monica Seles on the women's side had a 33-0 record at the Australian Open. She won 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996 and made the semis in 1999. She had never lost before that semi. I think that was the longest undefeated streak for men & women?

Can anyone confirm? Thanks. Also did Nadal have 28 wins in the first 4 french opens or did he win some matches by default of his opponent? I'm too lazy to check. Nadal might be breaking Seles' record? or someone else owns it?

As you said, Nadal is 28-0 and Monica 33-0. Federer and Borg may be longer, but that is when they were already defeated.

Apart from Nadal and Monica, what are the longest streaks when the player has never been beaten at all at that slam? In other words, which players have won a slam at their first time there? Did Kuerten?

BlueSwan
05-26-2009, 06:48 AM
It would be good to know which player holds the record for longest defeated streak in a slam.
I have no clue, but Kenneth Carlsen is a good bet. From 1995 until the end of his career he lost 10 consecutive matches at the Australian Open. During the same period he also lost 9 consecutive matches at the French Open. Overall he holds the record for most first round losses at Grand Slams with 30 in total (9 AO, 9 RG, 6 W, 6 US). His longest streak of defeats at Grand Slams is 8 from Wimbledon 2004 to his last slam. Incidentally his best ever GS result was the very first GS he ever played - the Australian Open in 1993 where he amazingly made the 4th round. Infact, during his first 12 slams (1993-1995) he only had 3 first round exits. During the rest of his career he had 27 first round exits out of 34 GS' played. He played a total of 46 GS events.

Har-Tru
05-26-2009, 08:56 AM
I have no clue, but Kenneth Carlsen is a good bet. From 1995 until the end of his career he lost 10 consecutive matches at the Australian Open. During the same period he also lost 9 consecutive matches at the French Open. Overall he holds the record for most first round losses at Grand Slams with 30 in total (9 AO, 9 RG, 6 W, 6 US). His longest streak of defeats at Grand Slams is 8 from Wimbledon 2004 to his last slam. Incidentally his best ever GS result was the very first GS he ever played - the Australian Open in 1993 where he amazingly made the 4th round. Infact, during his first 12 slams (1993-1995) he only had 3 first round exits. During the rest of his career he had 27 first round exits out of 34 GS' played. He played a total of 46 GS events.

Wow. That's what I call a mug.

Cheers. :)

Tutu
05-26-2009, 11:29 AM
14-15 year old male tennis players can beat Top 20 women tennis players, can you see why people dislike women's tennis? It's an absolute disgrace, there isn't one fit woman on the tour (not fit as in she looks gorgeous) but fit as in she has the stamina, strength, etc to last a 4 hour match, they have no clue how to play tennis, just how to bash a ball, with no fitness at all. Look at Safina - world number 1, but she is unbelievablely slow and has no game outside of the baseline..

Are you serious? Safina is a machine - one of the fittest tennis players ATP or WTA. Shows how much you know about tennis.

Womens bodies are defferent to mens bodies, they have a much higher fat-muscle ratio, they naturally move slower, etc. so you cant stand them side to side and compare them like that, but their achievements are just as valid.

And some of top players (namely Venus and Serena) would probably be able to get pretty high.

finishingmove
05-26-2009, 11:34 AM
:spit:

Tutu
05-26-2009, 12:04 PM
:spit:

:rolleyes: I dont mean anywhere near the top 10 or 50, but challengers for sure. :rolleyes:

finishingmove
05-26-2009, 12:10 PM
serena williams competing with top male tennis pros?

you could've said anything else, but this... come on..

Tutu
05-26-2009, 12:16 PM
serena williams competing with top male tennis pros?

you could've said anything else, but this... come on..

Well if Donald Young can do it....

FNT
05-26-2009, 12:21 PM
If women have a higher fat-muscle ratio and move slower, why the hell would I watch them play tennis? It doesn't matter who's playing to me, it's just that the quality of tennis is worse. It's slower, shotmaking is much worse, what's the point? The entertainment value isn't anywhere near men playing.

Are you implying I should watch just because it's girls playing and they can't do better? That's incredibly sexist. I'm all for equal rights, let's just not drag this out into the ridiculous territory.

finishingmove
05-26-2009, 12:21 PM
Well if Donald Young can do it....

donald young would triple bagel serena, if she were fit enough to play a bo5 match.

oranges
05-26-2009, 12:28 PM
donald young would triple bagel serena, if she were fit enough to play a bo5 match.

Safina would make DY cry his eyes out :devil:

salut235
05-26-2009, 12:40 PM
If women have a higher fat-muscle ratio and move slower, why the hell would I watch them play tennis? It doesn't matter who's playing to me, it's just that the quality of tennis is worse. It's slower, shotmaking is much worse, what's the point? The entertainment value isn't anywhere near men playing.

Are you implying I should watch just because it's girls playing and they can't do better? That's incredibly sexist. I'm all for equal rights, let's just not drag this out into the ridiculous territory.

Well many people enjoy women's tennis because it's not only about serves. In men's tennis, especially on fast surfaces, the points are too short. But with women's tennis, it gives longer more intense rallies. That being said, recently women's tennis is at an all-time low, but I'm talking about tennis with Seles, Hingis, Williams sisters, Pierce, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, and all these greats were playing at the same time, it was very fun matches and battles. Right now women's tennis has no real top players, they are boring, and the men all of a sudden have interesting rivalries. But every couple of years things change and one tour becomes more interesting.