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Murray expects Nadal to make RG Final, Thinks Federer will have trouble.

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 05:50 AM
http://sports.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4568683.cms?TOI_Sports_mostread

"I would expect Rafa to make the final here. I think Roger will probably have some tough matches if he is to make the final."

Action Jackson
05-25-2009, 05:55 AM
Nadal already has a press agent.

finishingmove
05-25-2009, 05:55 AM
did he really say that?

that nadal will make the final?

chammer44
05-25-2009, 06:06 AM
A hilarious admission of self-irrelevance.

CyBorg
05-25-2009, 06:12 AM
And for a while I thought he reminded me of John McEnroe. Not anymore.

born_on_clay
05-25-2009, 06:47 AM
Maintain this road Andy and I'll start considering to like you ;)

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 06:54 AM
I like it too, he has learnt well from Rafa Nadal, take pressure off yourself, unlike the talkers.

FedFan_2007
05-25-2009, 06:59 AM
Andy Murray = Captain Obvious. What a tennis mind! :rolls:

CescAndyKimi
05-25-2009, 07:17 AM
Yes an admittance of self irrelevance on clay or simply mounting pressure on others. Rafa seems to do it a lot, he's never favourite for the slam he's won 4 times. In a row mind.

pica_pica
05-25-2009, 07:22 AM
If he really said this then I expect him in the SFs.

Goldenoldie
05-25-2009, 07:32 AM
Mind games or modesty? Does Murray expect to reach the SF and then lose to Nadal, or does he not expect to get that far? Either way it's a good way to take the pressure off himself.

I have to agree it will be much harder for Federer.

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 07:33 AM
LOL maybe he's trying to bother Federer, because we know how much Federer likes to be a favorite. This is a sneaky way of bothering Federer because most people who read the quote will be interested in Murray's assessment of his own chances, they won't think of Federer being the main point [but Federer will].

Ackms421
05-25-2009, 08:04 AM
I personally can't believe he said this as he is in the same half as Nadal. That's insane. :shrug:

Mimi
05-25-2009, 08:08 AM
mind game :eek::p

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 08:44 AM
As they say in the classics....

Let the mind games begin HAHAHHAHA HAHAHHAH HAHHAHA HAHHHHAH HAHAHHH HAHAHHAH HAHHA HHAHHHAH HHAHHH AHAHHAHHH HHAHAHHHAH AAHHAH HAHHAHH AHHAHAHAHHA HHHH

pica_pica
05-25-2009, 09:02 AM
There will be more and more mind games between the Fab Four, perhaps :p

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 09:10 AM
Especially if they watch that show called THE MENTALIST i know i've learnt a lot.

Commander Data
05-25-2009, 09:39 AM
http://sports.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4568683.cms?TOI_Sports_mostread

"I would expect Rafa to make the final here. I think Roger will probably have some tough matches if he is to make the final."

What about the People bashing Federer when he talks about other players? They should now ask: Why does Murray have to talk about Federer having Problems? i think it is mind games and I don't mind them. But those who have problems with players talking BS should.

tennis2tennis
05-25-2009, 10:04 AM
..I think andy has every right to voice his opinion if he's asked a question, and I like the fact that he's honest and doesn't give pc answers but I agree with you Commander Data had Roger made that statement people always post the roger's interfers

Jimnik
05-25-2009, 10:18 AM
Seems like a reasonable comment. Fed has the dangerous American trio Ginepri, Blake and Roddick to deal with. Such clay monsters and tricky match-ups just to make the SF.

HattonWBA
05-25-2009, 11:03 AM
I heard him asked a similar question on eurosport and he did not say this at all

marcRD
05-25-2009, 11:33 AM
I think it is good players speaks out what they have in their mind, but why would he expect Nadal to beat him in a potential RG SF?

Even if he does have every logical reason to expect that, it will diminish his chanses if he faces Nadal expecting to lose.

Mateya
05-25-2009, 11:43 AM
Nadal will lose in the semifinal. Mark my words. :cool:

He lacks motivation and that will cost him the title this year.

jcempire
05-25-2009, 01:03 PM
LOL

I think Federer feel better than Nadal this time since the defeated from a week ago

marcRD
05-25-2009, 01:04 PM
LOL

I think Federer feel better than Nadal this time since the defeated from a week ago

I think Murray should belive in his chanses against Nadal even if I dont belive in him (even less now).

SheepleBuster
05-25-2009, 01:17 PM
http://sports.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4568683.cms?TOI_Sports_mostread

"I would expect Rafa to make the final here. I think Roger will probably have some tough matches if he is to make the final."

Well, he is right you know. He knows he can't beat Nadal or make it that far so he is just being honest. Fed will have some trouble with Novak but that's all I see on his way to final. For Murray, oh there is always the next year. He'll avoid Nadal someday.

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 01:31 PM
Nadal's only aim in this Roland Garros is to play better than last year.

McAlistar
05-25-2009, 01:45 PM
Andy always shows alot of respect to Rafa and Roger. Federer doesnt show it back but Rafa does.

He usually does talk up his opponents, thats why i dont understand the idiots that call him arrogant. He's never said he is better than anyone.

marcRD
05-25-2009, 01:51 PM
Andy always shows alot of respect to Rafa and Roger. Federer doesnt show it back but Rafa does.

He usually does talk up his opponents, thats why i dont understand the idiots that call him arrogant. He's never said he is better than anyone.

Arrogant? Not really. Annoying is the word I am looking for.

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 01:56 PM
Murray is very good at the interviews, I like his style how he gives opinions without giving opinions on himself being anything special. That is why Federer is not liked, Federer gives opinions about his greatness too much and it doesn't sound good.

Har-Tru
05-25-2009, 01:58 PM
I personally can't believe he said this as he is in the same half as Nadal. That's insane. :shrug:

my thoughts exactly

so much for believing in himself

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 02:02 PM
What someone says in a press conference has nothing to do with what they think. It's not like the owe the media/fans the truth. We all have our personal thoughts that are no business of the public. For example Federer clearly suffers a lack of confidence in these Nadal matches yet he's full of confidence in interviews. So he's saying one thing and not believing it in the Nadal matches. What we say is not what we feel.

marcRD
05-25-2009, 02:17 PM
Djokovic would never say anything like that, he has somekind of unshakable belief that he can beat anyone on any surface and I must say I admire that in him. Unlike Murray Djokovic thinks he can be greater than both Federer and Rafa.

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 02:21 PM
Djokovic doesn't play like a confident player, he's looked really tame in big matches lately. I think he's just all talk, he doesn't believe in himself. US Open was an awful performance v Federer, no mental strength, same with Olympics v Nadal. It looks like he has the talent but he fades like he's scared of the finishline.

luvrafa
05-25-2009, 03:35 PM
Murray is just being honest. Why wouldn't he expect Nadal to win? After all the man has won 4 consecutive grand slams at RG. It's not a lock that he'll win this time, but the odds are definitely in his favor.

Roddickominator
05-25-2009, 03:40 PM
Gutless comments by Murray. Expected.

Clydey
05-25-2009, 04:01 PM
Murray seems to be going out of his way to take the pressure off himself these days. I mean, he has repeated several times in the past month that his goal here is only the second week.

Clydey
05-25-2009, 04:08 PM
my thoughts exactly

so much for believing in himself

He said the exact same thing before he beat Federer at Cinci in 2006. He was asked how he saw the match going and he said, I quote, "Yeah, I think obviously not gonna win."

He beat Fed in straight sets.

I wouldn't be so sure that he doesn't believe in his chances.

BaselineSmash
05-25-2009, 04:09 PM
Not sure when Murray and Fed last looked each other in the eye in the locker room.

Guga_fan
05-25-2009, 04:14 PM
Djokovic doesn't play like a confident player, he's looked really tame in big matches lately. I think he's just all talk, he doesn't believe in himself. US Open was an awful performance v Federer, no mental strength, same with Olympics v Nadal. It looks like he has the talent but he fades like he's scared of the finishline.
He didn't fade away in those matches, his form was bad at that time of the year anyway, it's not like he was playing well in those tournaments and then played sub-par against Federer and Nadal, he was already poor.
I'm not saying he is confident right now though, he used to be in 2007, but he is much less confident in his game then he used to be.

About Murray's statement, I think he underestimates his capabilities on clay when he shouldn't, since he could do really well in this surface.

Kip
05-25-2009, 04:15 PM
So if Andy meets Rafa he'll give him a w/o?

Pathetic! :rolleyes:

Har-Tru
05-25-2009, 04:18 PM
He said the exact same thing before he beat Federer at Cinci in 2006. He was asked how he saw the match going and he said, I quote, "Yeah, I think obviously not gonna win."

He beat Fed in straight sets.

I wouldn't be so sure that he doesn't believe in his chances.

I hope you're right.

scoobs
05-25-2009, 04:18 PM
Realistically everyone expects Nadal to make the RG final, including him.

Doesn't mean he's not going to try to make his SF appointment, and then do his best to stop that happening.

If he gets the chance he'll throw everything he's got at Nadal. Anyone who knew anything about Murray would realise that.

Goldenoldie
05-25-2009, 04:24 PM
So if Andy meets Rafa he'll give him a w/o?

Pathetic! :rolleyes:

I was very tempted to make a rude response here, but I'm too new

MrChopin
05-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Maintain this road Andy and I'll start considering to like you ;)

You are very difficult to please.

LOL maybe he's trying to bother Federer, because we know how much Federer likes to be a favorite. This is a sneaky way of bothering Federer because most people who read the quote will be interested in Murray's assessment of his own chances, they won't think of Federer being the main point [but Federer will].

Holy shit! I didn't even realize that he mentioned Roger until you pointed it out. You're right... very subtle!

Nadal's only aim in this Roland Garros is to play better than last year.

So far he's failing.

fast_clay
05-25-2009, 04:33 PM
really impressed on the way murray is using the media these days... all parts of his game are on the improve....

Mechlan
05-25-2009, 04:41 PM
Silly thing for Murray to say. But I'm glad he's keeping the expectations low, he's still got a lot of improving to do on this surface.

MrChopin
05-25-2009, 04:50 PM
really impressed on the way murray is using the media these days... all parts of his game are on the improve....

At 21, he's already adopted the first rule for tradesmen: "No tool is too small". Imagine his toolbox in a couple of years when he looks like the following tradesman:

http://www.greatwigs.co.uk/shop/media/wigs/14331_Caveman_Wig_Beard.jpg

tangerine_dream
05-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Wimbledon is going to be absolutely unbearable this year.

Commander Data
05-25-2009, 05:07 PM
I think it is good players speaks out what they have in their mind, but why would he expect Nadal to beat him in a potential RG SF?




There you go. i doubt he (just) speaks his mind openly here. Lets assume it is so:


- He basically would say: He expects to lose to Nadal in the SF. (Why would the no. 3 of the world say that or even think it at the beginning of the tournament?)

- He expects Nadal to play well and win it again.

- Fed to play medicore

- For some unknown reason he has nothing to say about the final?

That sounds fishy:

I rather think it is a mind game. What he wants to say/do is:

- Nadal is the favorite (We all know that Nadal likes to be the underdog) -> put pressure on Nadal.

- I have nothing to lose (underdog) -> take pressure off him

- Fed's Madrid win has not impressed me. Fed is not back. he is no favorite here (we all know Fed likes to be the favorite) -> annoy Federer.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this one sentence :lol: but I think it is a very inteligent way to put pressure on Fed and Nadal and take it off himself.

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 05:12 PM
Any tennis player who goes out of their way to talk positively about their chances is lacking in intelligence. Murray and Nadal are proving to be the smartest players because they deflect pressure. Federer and Djokovic not so much.

Jaz
05-25-2009, 05:16 PM
Err Nadal is under ALOT of pressure right now.

He is the world number 1, and defending a huge favourite tag at French Open.

Murray is simply playing mind-games against Federer though. Though I get the feeling it might bite back against Murray. Federer simply won't care.

Commander Data
05-25-2009, 05:19 PM
Err Nadal is under ALOT of pressure right now.

He is the world number 1, and defending a huge favourite tag at French Open.

Murray is simply playing mind-games against Federer though. Though I get the feeling it might bite back against Murray. Federer simply won't care.

I agree. If anything it probably motivates Federer to disprove him.

Andi-M
05-25-2009, 05:41 PM
Murray learnt alot from Austrailia he's keeping it cool, but he believes he can win RG make no mistake about it, he's not saying it publically cos theres no need to.

Arkulari
05-25-2009, 05:50 PM
Muzza has no chances on RG, but at least he's being realistic and knows Rafa will give him a sound beating ;)
this is best of five, Muzza is not very known for being good in those with the exception of the USO final last year (in which Roger beat him in straight sets on his best surface, one he won as a junior)
and about Roger, he really cannot care less, they are in different parts of the draw, so it doesn't matter what Muzza says about him, they won't play each other in here :shrug:

Noleta
05-25-2009, 05:56 PM
Any tennis player who goes out of their way to talk positively about their chances is lacking in intelligence. Murray and Nadal are proving to be the smartest players because they deflect pressure. Federer and Djokovic not so much.

Nadal hold off in his presses you never will know what he's really thinking he's very diplomatic;)both Fed and Djoko especially the last one speaks theire mind:)i'll rather hear someone say he's going to win than someone saying he's going to do his best that's false modesty:cool:

vamosinator
05-25-2009, 11:45 PM
Nadal hold off in his presses you never will know what he's really thinking he's very diplomatic;)both Fed and Djoko especially the last one speaks theire mind:)i'll rather hear someone say he's going to win than someone saying he's going to do his best that's false modesty:cool:

Its not false modesty its deflecting pressure. Like I said before, Djokovic and Federer are unintelligent enough to think that talking themselves up is a good idea. Talk up your opponent and reduce the amount of public expectation on yourself. Nadal has no pressure on himself to do anything different than when he was world number 2. His goal remains the same: improve his game each year. Whereas Federer is carrying the expectation to beat Sampras' record, and Djokovic is carrying the expectation to overcome Nadal's stranglehold. No pressures on Nadal but to try his best as always :D

marcRD
05-26-2009, 12:09 AM
Any tennis player who goes out of their way to talk positively about their chances is lacking in intelligence. Murray and Nadal are proving to be the smartest players because they deflect pressure. Federer and Djokovic not so much.

You know that what you say to yourself and others truly affects your mind too? Federer's game is based on confidence alot more than Nadal or Murray in my opinion, he really enjoys beeing the favorite and thinking he can beat anyone if he plays his best. He probably went into USOPEN 2008 saying to himself that he will win the tournament, not that he will do his best and if he hadnt done that he would probably not have won that tournament.

Nadal on the other hand enjoys just doing his best, not to think about his chanses or if he is the favorite. Actually he likes the idea that the other one is the favorite, he is just fighting his ass for every point. This works for Nadal.

Both have different approaches and say completely different things, both have the right mindset to win matches which is the important thing for any athlete.

Dont know about Murray, he seems kind of weak mentaly and not at the same level as Federer and Nadal in that department (obviously).

superslam77
05-26-2009, 12:20 AM
Any tennis player who goes out of their way to talk positively about their chances is lacking in intelligence. Murray and Nadal are proving to be the smartest players because they deflect pressure. Federer and Djokovic not so much.

Nadal and Murray are Defensive..Federer and Djokovic are Offensive.

What mentality do you expect :rolleyes: ??

theRAFA i surrender! Close the drama for a while will ya?

the graduate
05-26-2009, 12:24 AM
he knows he is not reaching the semis thats whats up:rolleyes:

HKz
05-26-2009, 01:09 AM
Lawl. This is when Murray withdraws from the tournament due to fatigue.

finishingmove
05-26-2009, 01:31 AM
maybe he thinks he's not ready to beat nadal on clay this year.

in which case, i would have to agree with him.

TennisViewer531
05-26-2009, 01:57 AM
It's like saying "Murray expects to lose"

Mimi
05-26-2009, 02:00 AM
he is wrong, the one who is having problem is Nadal, hitting 32 uneforced errors, he will not reach semi, let alone final, the one who has no problem is Roger, he is playing so well, he will win the title :eek:

Ciarán.
05-26-2009, 02:26 AM
Who doesn't think that? :retard:

modern tennis
05-26-2009, 04:25 AM
he is wrong, the one who is having problem is Nadal, hitting 32 uneforced errors, he will not reach semi, let alone final, the one who has no problem is Roger, he is playing so well, he will win the title :eek:

fedtard are we now?

Halba
05-26-2009, 04:37 AM
he is wrong, the one who is having problem is Nadal, hitting 32 uneforced errors, he will not reach semi, let alone final, the one who has no problem is Roger, he is playing so well, he will win the title :eek:

no 2009 is the year of the djoke. he will surprise all winning french wimbledon and us open with his groundstroke game, and go from 1 slam wonder to 4 slam titan. bring out those flat 'down the line' double handers djoke. he is back to AO 2008 form watch out

Bargearse
05-26-2009, 05:37 AM
I think it would have been so funny if Murray or anyone else for that matter said something like...
I think Rafa's loss to Federer in Madrid is a forboding of things to come. Nadal has clearly lost his edge, is perhaps carrying an injury, has been paid off by the ATP, has lost confidence or just isn't good enough to make it to the round of 16 let alone the final and that Federer's huge confidence boost from the Madrid triumph will completely change his form slump and see him not only win the coveted French Open, but Wimbledon as well!!!

Yes, Murray's comments were merely stating the obvious.

Mimi
05-26-2009, 06:24 AM
hello hhtigerlily :D

long time no see, so nice to see you again :wavey::angel:

Audacity
05-26-2009, 06:38 AM
Expected comment from Murray. Who cares?

Venle
05-26-2009, 07:05 AM
Oh dear, and he's right.

I was already waiting for his first shady comment of the tourney. :o There it comes.

Bargearse
05-26-2009, 07:39 AM
I took a break for the clay court season leading up to the French Open because the winner is a foregone conclusion. It's almost as if Nadal doesn't even have to turn up and he still wins. However, if it was Federer winning against the same opponents again and again I would not tire of it.

I respect Nadal. He seems like a real decent guy, but I can't bring myself to like him the way I do Federer.

Mimi
05-26-2009, 07:42 AM
rafa is not winning all the clay titles, just 3, and only 2 are master series, Roger also won one master series, so its not bad, and Nole also won 1 clay court title and there are smaller clay court tourneys too, so its not nadal winning all of them :p

Mimi
05-26-2009, 07:42 AM
:sad: and you should remove this smiliy next to Federer, he is winnning again ;)

Bargearse
05-26-2009, 07:49 AM
I didn't mean to imply that Nadal wins all tournaments, he doesn't play all of them of course. He tends to win all or most of the clay Masters tournaments. To Federer's credit, he did win Madrid but how? What did he do differently or was Nadal just ill or forgot his raquet?

Mimi
05-26-2009, 08:06 AM
i have watched the match, but given my poor tennis knowledge, i don't know if my analysis is correct: Roger served great, played great, and surprised nadal with some nice drop shots which he seldom used before, while nadal served/returned badly and did not reach many balls which he used to get to :wavey:

Kip
05-31-2009, 04:38 PM
Well, if Andy makes the final with Nadal gone, he should thank Soderling for having the balls & belief that he so obviously didn't and wouldn't have!

It's annoying when someone of his talent has no belief. Yet, he is most certainly not alone.

Jimnik
05-31-2009, 08:20 PM
Poor prediction from Muzza. He really should have known better.

He'll never be a tennis punter now.

DrJules
05-31-2009, 08:40 PM
Poor prediction from Muzza. He really should have known better.

He'll never be a tennis punter now.

Secretly I think Murray probably was thinking he could win the tournament.

marcRD
05-31-2009, 10:43 PM
He is an idiot and I called that before Nadal went out. If you belive you can do it you have a very small chanse, Murray stating his belief that no one can beat Nadal in his half obviously lacks the required selfbelief to beat Nadal and I really hope someone takes him out before the final, he doesnt deserve to be there!

Andi-M
05-31-2009, 11:14 PM
He is an idiot and I called that before Nadal went out. If you belive you can do it you have a very small chanse, Murray stating his belief that no one can beat Nadal in his half obviously lacks the required selfbelief to beat Nadal and I really hope someone takes him out before the final, he doesnt deserve to be there!

Had there been a Murray - Nadal SF of course he wouldnt have given Nadal a w/o he would try to win and believe he can win. and may well have pulled it off given Nadals form this tournament and the fact he's beaten Rafa in a GS semi before. Murray dosent lack self confidence at all.

He just conducts himself in a cool manner because he's not arrogant and sees it pointless to put uneccessary pressure on himself.

marcRD
05-31-2009, 11:31 PM
Had there been a Murray - Nadal SF of course he wouldnt have given Nadal a w/o he would try to win and believe he can win. and may well have pulled it off given Nadals form this tournament and the fact he's beaten Rafa in a GS semi before. Murray dosent lack self confidence at all.

He just conducts himself in a cool manner because he's not arrogant and sees it pointless to put uneccessary pressure on himself.

No he wouldnt, you cant say Nadal will have no trouble going to the final and expect him to be there when you can stop him. He could say that about Federer who is in the other side of the draw but if you dont belive you can cause Nadal some trouble you shouldnt even be out there. Murray would lose in straight sets against Nadal, he just doesnt have the confidence to beat him.

Clydey
05-31-2009, 11:42 PM
No he wouldnt, you cant say Nadal will have no trouble going to the final and expect him to be there when you can stop him. He could say that about Federer who is in the other side of the draw but if you dont belive you can cause Nadal some trouble you shouldnt even be out there. Murray would lose in straight sets against Nadal, he just doesnt have the confidence to beat him.

As I said before, Murray said the same thing before he beat Federer in Cinci 06. He told journalists flatout "I'm not going to win this match". He then beat Federer in straight sets. You're reading too much into it, particulaely since Murray said 2 days ago that he plans on trying to win the tournament.

And of course Murray has the confidence to beat him. If there's one player that is confident of beating Nadal, it's Murray. He has beaten him in a GS semi before.

prima donna
06-07-2009, 04:13 PM
Don't quit your day job, Andrew.

Jaz
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
Murray got this so wrong is tragic...

Ozone
06-07-2009, 04:16 PM
WHAT NOW ANDY, SUCK ON Federer def. Soderling 61 76 64!!

NadalSharapova
06-07-2009, 04:18 PM
Everyone expected nadal to be in the final and thrash whoever was there like very other year, just like federer beating...say mardy fish. Freak results do happen in tennis once in a while.

timafi
06-07-2009, 04:20 PM
Murray do yourself a favor and take your gf out and go get busy with her and stay out or Roger-Nadal business.Between them they've won a combined 20 grand slam majors while you have 1 finals in your resume
don't even mention the likes of Federer punk!:rolleyes: :mad:
you're not even in the same league as the likes of Roddick and Djokovic both 1 slam wonders but my guess is you're ahead of Blake if that's compliment:tape: but once again stfu:mad:

Acer
06-07-2009, 04:22 PM
Win a slam or two first Murray before daring to talk.

TheWall
06-07-2009, 04:23 PM
Everyone expected nadal to be in the final and thrash whoever was there like very other year, just like federer beating...say mardy fish. Freak results do happen in tennis once in a while.
True. Wimbledon 2008 is the best example.

NadalSharapova
06-07-2009, 04:29 PM
True. Wimbledon 2008 is the best example.

yeah, nadal should never have let it go to 5 sets. he should have won in 3

TheWall
06-07-2009, 04:33 PM
yeah, nadal should never have let it go to 5 sets. he should have won in 3

Nah, Gulbis should've sent him home in the 2nd round.

By the way, what did you enjoy more, Nadal's won tiebreak against Soderling or the way Sharapova avoided the double bagel?

NadalSharapova
06-07-2009, 04:35 PM
Nah, Gulbis should've sent him home in the 2nd round.

By the way, what did you enjoy more, Nadal's won tiebreak against Soderling or the way Sharapova avoided the double bagel?

I enjoy the way Nadal annihilates Federer's ass at grand slams.

TheWall
06-07-2009, 04:38 PM
I enjoy the way Nadal annihilates Federer's ass at grand slams.
You should use past tense.

You know, Nadal can't beat Federer if he keeps losing before the final.

chenx15
06-07-2009, 04:39 PM
I enjoy the way Nadal annihilates Federer's ass at grand slams.

i think this will not happen very soon anymore.

scarecrows
06-07-2009, 04:54 PM
I enjoy the way Nadal annihilates Federer's ass at grand slams.

In Federer's best years Nadal wasnt reaching any final besides RG and Wimbledon and you saws what happened in Wimbledon 2006 and 2007. Pretty sure Federer would have won if they faced in AO or USO during those years

Forehander
06-07-2009, 05:09 PM
I like Murray's prediction. I remember last year during the master cup he voted for Davydenko to win but Djokovic ended up winning. And now French Open lol~

superslam77
06-07-2009, 05:12 PM
Poor Bastard...

prima donna
06-16-2009, 12:34 AM
Some people never learn.

rocketassist
06-16-2009, 12:36 AM
I think everyone on this forum had Nadal down for a final spot without being taken to a TB....

prima donna
06-16-2009, 12:37 AM
I think everyone on this forum had Nadal down for a final spot without being taken to a TB....
Yes, just as everyone on this forum had written off a 13-time (now 14-time) Grand Slam champion.

luie
06-16-2009, 12:39 AM
I think everyone on this forum had Nadal down for a final spot without being taken to a TB....
Every-one in the tennis world I might add but was it right to bring federer into the equation & that point in time.He could have said "fed will have it tougher but he could make it" or something along those lines.

Dini
06-16-2009, 12:39 AM
So why didn't Fed ask for more respect from Murray?

rocketassist
06-16-2009, 12:41 AM
Yes, just as everyone on this forum had written off a 13-time (now 14-time) Grand Slam champion.

Not me. I thought he could win USO and Wimby still, but it was pleasing to see him take RG although I never thought Nadal would lose.

He still gave Muzza a lesson in how to play a slam final even past his peak. He was never completely finished, when it's a slam, he brings it to the table and never loses to mugs.

Even this past his peak Fed is still a monster to put away in a best of 5 format.

optimism
06-16-2009, 12:44 AM
So why didn't Fed ask for more respect from Murray?

Because men don't ask for it, they earn it ;) Only brats would insist on asking for it :wavey:

twisturhead
06-16-2009, 12:45 AM
Hahahaha

Clydey
06-16-2009, 12:49 AM
Not me. I thought he could win USO and Wimby still, but it was pleasing to see him take RG although I never thought Nadal would lose.

He still gave Muzza a lesson in how to play a slam final even past his peak. He was never completely finished, when it's a slam, he brings it to the table and never loses to mugs.

Even this past his peak Fed is still a monster to put away in a best of 5 format.

I still don't think he's past his peak. And if he wins, say, 2 slams this season, I think I'll be proved right. He cannot be past his peak and win 2 slams per year with the current crop of players he's competing against.

Clydey
06-16-2009, 12:51 AM
So why didn't Fed ask for more respect from Murray?

Pretty much impossible to get any more respect. Did you see the end of the US Open last year? He called Federer the greatest player ever during the speech and, even though he was disappointed after the loss, told Roger at the handshake "You've had a great year, no matter what anyone says."

Dini
06-16-2009, 12:54 AM
Pretty much impossible to get any more respect. Did you see the end of the US Open last year? He called Federer the greatest player ever during the speech and, even though he was disappointed after the loss, told Roger at the handshake "You've had a great year, no matter what anyone says."

No I did see that, and that was very classy in my opinion. ;) So why start all this talk about "getting more respect"? Did he by any chance miss Fed's comments post IW or that long interview with the BBC where he discussed his game in a positive light?

And why make those comments now? :confused: Why not point it out as soon as Fed says it? The timing is impeccable it seems.

rocketassist
06-16-2009, 12:57 AM
I still don't think he's past his peak. And if he wins, say, 2 slams this season, I think I'll be proved right. He cannot be past his peak and win 2 slams per year with the current crop of players he's competing against.

That's why I think Murray may need to get spawny like Djokovic did in Melbourne and play a weakened/stricken Federer in some form in order to get his slam, until Fed is way past it that is.

Clydey
06-16-2009, 01:01 AM
No I did see that, and that was very classy in my opinion. ;) So why start all this talk about "getting more respect"? Did he by any chance miss Fed's comments post IW or that long interview with the BBC where he discussed his game in a positive light?

And why make those comments now? :confused: Why not point it out as soon as Fed says it? The timing is impeccable it seems.

Like I said earlier, I think his words have been twisted. I mean, every article I've read has reported his comments differently. Some have been downright scathing, while others report them as being comparatively benign.

Dini
06-16-2009, 01:08 AM
I agree his words were twisted,Murray needs to concentrate on his tennis,not fed's comments about him,prove you are better than fed the old fashioned way.

6-2 :o

luie
06-16-2009, 01:09 AM
Like I said earlier, I think his words have been twisted. I mean, every article I've read has reported his comments differently. Some have been downright scathing, while others report them as being comparatively benign.
I agree his words were twisted,Murray needs to concentrate on his tennis,not fed's comments about him,prove you are better than fed the old fashioned way.

luie
06-16-2009, 01:10 AM
6-2 :o
:wavey: Well continue,to prove in that case.

juja_06
06-16-2009, 06:35 AM
Murray sucks anyway. until he has proven himself then who cares about what he says?