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Three-day first round eliminates excitement

Leo
05-24-2009, 05:56 PM
I believe this is the third consecutive year that the French Open has expanded its main draw tournament to a first Sunday. The US Open has also had a three-day first round for the men for years but the usual two-day first round for the women (which allows for Super Sunday), so it's different.

I understand that having an extra day of play increases overall profits for the tournament. One more day = extra ticket sales. But for the tennis fan, either attending the tourney live or watching from home, it definitely decreases some of the excitement of Grand Slam first round action. It's so nice to see a bevy of men's and women's singles matches - 64, to be precise - on both Day 1 and Day 2 of a Slam. But with its current set-up, RG only has 32 singles matches today on Day 1 Sunday. (And I guess 48 matches on Day 2 and Day 3?) This means fewer stars, less drama, and less intensity around the grounds.

I can understand the other side of the argument, that expanding the first round allows more people to watch more players. However, in my mind, it makes the usually exhilarating first round feel of a Slam become slightly less action-packed and thus slightly more dull. For example, this Day 1 at RG features no Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Williams, Williams, or Safina. :o

Oh, well. I hope the AO and Wimbledon stick to the classic scheduling!

Johnny Groove
05-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Well, it also helps alleviate some scheduling problems. Trying to put 64 men and women all on court in one day is tough, especially on clay where the points are much longer. A spot of rain and some matches are delayed, some players get screwed over, etc.

By expanding the first round to 3 days, it allows more time for the players to get all the matches in.

Of course, I'm sure money was the primary concern.

Leo
05-24-2009, 06:07 PM
Well, it also helps alleviate some scheduling problems. Trying to put 64 men and women all on court in one day is tough, especially on clay where the points are much longer. A spot of rain and some matches are delayed, some players get screwed over, etc.

By expanding the first round to 3 days, it allows more time for the players to get all the matches in.

Of course, I'm sure money was the primary concern.

That is a good point, as clay court matches get long. Today, Victoria Azarenka still hasn't taken the court, although she will be now so she can most likely finish her match unless it's a 2.5 hour+ marathon. But of course, they have so many courts around the grounds to take advantage of and they aren't nearly making maximum use of them today.

It will be interesting to see if the scheduling remains the same when the RG grounds are expanded with the new stadium and other courts by the Bois de Boulogne area.

Action Jackson
05-24-2009, 06:16 PM
They haven't agreed to the expansion, if they really gave a fuck about the fans and the whole 3 day thing, well they should schedule 21 or 22 matches on the Sunday, it's a half baked solution, do it properly or not at all.

Then there are other players waiting 2 full days to play their next rounds.

freeandlonely
05-24-2009, 08:15 PM
I would like seeing them stick to Monday start, too.
But most of the time, excitement happens in later rounds, so kind of whatever for me.

Leo
05-24-2009, 08:37 PM
The first week of the 2008 Aussie Open was probably just as exciting as the second week on the men's side and more exciting than the second week on the women's side, and I think that would have been lost if the Aussie had adopted French scheduling.

Aurora
05-24-2009, 09:23 PM
Action-packed ok, but no one gets to see it all -> from alot of the matches you only get the results or highlights on a 2-day schedule. An extra day means extra time to watch for supporters: live and on tv.

For me the choice is simple: yes to 3 days, doesn't matter if the big names are spread out.

krakenzero
05-24-2009, 11:34 PM
One more day of excitement. 50% more matches on TV due to facilities on-court. No need of artificial lights. More margin to deal with suspensions/rain delay. Chances for low ranked players to be watched and considered seriously and to play with some people in the stands. More profit$.

So, quoting Dalai Lama, "no. Next question."

Henry Chinaski
05-24-2009, 11:47 PM
They haven't agreed to the expansion, if they really gave a fuck about the fans and the whole 3 day thing, well they should schedule 21 or 22 matches on the Sunday, it's a half baked solution, do it properly or not at all.



yup, the sunday oop has usually been a joke when it's been used. I remember the main match on the sunday in stockholm 07 was montanes v bopanna. makes no sense.

I think it's a nice idea in theory. If you're a tennis fan with a few kids and you work all week, Sunday might be the only chance you get to take them along.

Like you said, do it properly or not at all

FNT
05-25-2009, 01:33 AM
It's OK if you ask me. Look, speaking realistically, how many people will be interested in the epic Simon-Odesnik clash? I feel for the hardcore fans, but being an engaged, yet still somewhat casual fan myself, I don't really care about the 1st round that much. Do whatever you like with it, and if it means sacrificing some of the experience to get rid of schedule messups later on, go ahead.

I completely agree with putting some of the better players out there on Sunday though. I don't get why they couldn't play Djokovic today, Roger tomorrow and Rafa on Tuesday (closing the 1st round as the champion and the biggest star of the tournament should do) - that's three perfect closers for three days. Everyone gets a chance to see great players no matter if you go Sunday, Monday or Tuesday.

felipe2004
05-25-2009, 01:43 AM
I like it, beucase I get to see a full day of matches. From Monday to Friday I can barely watch anything, becuase of work/university.

Action Jackson
05-25-2009, 02:28 AM
yup, the sunday oop has usually been a joke when it's been used. I remember the main match on the sunday in stockholm 07 was montanes v bopanna. makes no sense.

I think it's a nice idea in theory. If you're a tennis fan with a few kids and you work all week, Sunday might be the only chance you get to take them along.

Like you said, do it properly or not at all

I mean you have 64 mens matches for them to justify a Sunday start, then they should have 21, 22, 21 matches over the 3 days to spread it out, the way they have it now is garbage.

Corswandt
05-25-2009, 11:00 AM
I think it can be unfair to the players scheduled to play their 1R on Tuesday - even more so because rain delays are expected tomorrow, and some may not get to play until Wednesday.