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lleytonfan!
05-22-2009, 12:40 PM
I hope Lleyton gets revenge, being down 2-0 in their head to head. I say Lleyton in 4.

HeretiC
05-22-2009, 01:38 PM
I hope Lleyton gets revenge, being down 2-0 in their head to head. I say Lleyton in 4.

It is 3-0 (Wimbledon, Queens and Tokyo)

Yves.
05-22-2009, 01:48 PM
That's quite a match-up!:yeah:

mr_burns
05-22-2009, 01:51 PM
Hewitt should win this, although he is 03

but anyway, a bad draw for him

he could have gone really far in this tournament (QF)..but again he is facing nadal so early here...

FlameOn
05-22-2009, 02:13 PM
Lleyton I hope. It's too bad Karlovic gives him so much trouble, seeing how good a returner of serve Lleyton is.

Lleyton in 5.

oranges
05-22-2009, 03:05 PM
Strangely enough, Hewitt is literally the only Karlovic win in GS worth mentioning, but that was on grass. They haven't played on clay at all, probably because Lleyton was normally seeded :p

Har-Tru
05-22-2009, 03:19 PM
I really hope Lleyton pulls this one.

Iván
05-22-2009, 03:30 PM
Tough one

Arkulari
05-22-2009, 03:30 PM
I really hope Lleyton pulls this one.
x2
there are very few things worse than losing to Karlovic on clay :unsure:

pica_pica
05-22-2009, 03:32 PM
Hewitt should win this to save his face. The clay should greatly reduce Dr Ivo's aces.

lurker
05-22-2009, 04:04 PM
Please please please win this Lleyton!!!

SaFed2005
05-22-2009, 04:05 PM
I think Karlovic will win this. He is not as bad on clay as people make him out to be. :p

Dini
05-22-2009, 04:14 PM
Rusty in 3 :p

:armed:

philosophicalarf
05-22-2009, 04:26 PM
Karlovic's recent form was a bit disguised by the court speed in Madrid (47 aces in two matches on clay.....). He really is appalling lately though - see the match vs Kubot in Belgrade. On top of that, his record in best of 5 is shocking.

Hewitt looked pretty good in Munich, took a form Berdy to a final set tiebreak. He really should win here if he's fit and healthy.

Har-Tru
05-22-2009, 04:31 PM
Karlovic's recent form was a bit disguised by the court speed in Madrid (47 aces in two matches on clay.....). He really is appalling lately though - see the match vs Kubot in Belgrade. On top of that, his record in best of 5 is shocking.

Hewitt looked pretty good in Munich, took a form Berdy to a final set tiebreak. He really should win here if he's fit and healthy.

any chance you have the final break % for Madrid?

Karlovic sucks a** on normal clay. He just can't move and any top 100 player should take care of him easily.

rocketassist
05-22-2009, 04:32 PM
Karlovic isn't a clay clown. He's even won a clay court title, albeit on Houston clay.

Sapeod
05-22-2009, 04:33 PM
any chance you have the final break % for Madrid?

Karlovic sucks a** on normal clay. He just can't move and any top 100 player should take care of him easily.
Agreed. Karlovic's is fucked. Karlovic's serve will be difficult to break, even though it is clay. We will see how many sets it will take for Hewitt to win.

finishingmove
05-22-2009, 04:35 PM
realistically karlovic is the favourite.

hewitt may benefit from the fact that karlovic is a bo5 gimp

all depends on how rusty is feeling at the moment

Har-Tru
05-22-2009, 04:36 PM
Karlovic isn't a clay clown. He's even won a clay court title, albeit on Houston clay.

2007. The one year it was played on green clay. Plays like many of today's hard courts.

carlos pera
05-22-2009, 04:38 PM
What a match we have for first round!! :)

C´mon Hewitt!!!

rocketassist
05-22-2009, 04:38 PM
2007. The one year it was played on green clay. Plays like many of today's hard courts.

He's still beaten some decent guys out there, ok Boredo is a clown, but he still has some pedigree, and he's beaten PMK as well.

Croatians know how to move on these courts, given they play outdoors on it.

You're wrong to group Karlovic in with the Isners, Tursunovs, Ginepris and Rawdicks.

philosophicalarf
05-22-2009, 04:56 PM
The problem for Karlovic is not just that it's clay, it's the best-of-5 factor on top of that - his last three attempts here he's lost in the final set (to Falla, Bjorkman and Hrbaty). Hewitt probably isn't the ideal opponent given that, and it wouldn't be surprising to see Ivo do one of his turnup-for-the-cheque-and-leave-on-the-first-flight routines he often does at slams.


@har-tru: ended up at 20.5%. The deeper it went the less breaks there were too, which is unusual. Quite a nice contrast in the Djoko/Nadal matches too - in Monte Carlo they had 12 breaks in 24 games (0.5), in Rome 6 in 20 (0.3), and in Madrid 3 in 33 (0.09).

Johnny Groove
05-22-2009, 04:57 PM
Hewitt better not lose this shit.

Ivo#1Fan
05-22-2009, 07:27 PM
I think Ivo has an excellent chance in this one. Hewitt hates clay a lot more than Ivo does. If it goes 5 sets then Hewitt no doubt. I expect Ivo to win in 4.

Sapeod
05-22-2009, 07:34 PM
He's still beaten some decent guys out there, ok Boredo is a clown, but he still has some pedigree, and he's beaten PMK as well.

Croatians know how to move on these courts, given they play outdoors on it.

You're wrong to group Karlovic in with the Isners, Tursunovs, Ginepris and Rawdicks.
Since when is Ginepri in the same group as Isner and Roddick. He reaached the 4th round last year.

Sunset of Age
05-22-2009, 07:43 PM
Wouldn't at all mind to see Karlovic taking this one. Doubtful, though.

Elena.
05-22-2009, 08:05 PM
Changed my mind,Hewitt .

malisha
05-22-2009, 08:17 PM
Big Ivo in 4
He will fancy fast clay and Hewitt hates the matchup...but the most important thing is that Hewitt will be the favourite...and Ivo loves to match top players

Ivos awful pedigree in best of 5 colud stop him though but still i wolud pick him to win this

Corey Feldman
05-22-2009, 08:20 PM
great draw for a 1r

sheva07
05-22-2009, 08:44 PM
Very difficult draw for Lleyton. It's tough for anybody to break the serve of Karlovic while Lleytons serve isn't that solid. I hope Lleyton will win, but Karlovic has a good chance to win this.

MalwareDie
05-22-2009, 09:36 PM
If the match somehow goes to 5 sets, Hewitt will definitely win because Karlovic will be too sore to serve like a madman. I do think that Hewitt will get the job done before that though.

MalwareDie
05-22-2009, 09:39 PM
Very difficult draw for Lleyton. It's tough for anybody to break the serve of Karlovic while Lleytons serve isn't that solid. I hope Lleyton will win, but Karlovic has a good chance to win this.

Karlovic is easier to break this year. If Hewitt takes a set, I think that he will definitely win.

StevoTG
05-23-2009, 02:41 AM
If it goes 5 sets then Hewitt no doubt.


I'm not sure that's the case anymore, if you look at his 3rd set tie-break losses to Roddick and Berdych this year, he has become somewhat flat footed by the third sets.

Hewitt had a good win by taking the title in Houston, but didn't drop a set (no chance to fatigue) - and there was only one match where he was not broken (Korolev in the semi's). I think that if Lleyton returns well, serves well and is actually feeling good physically and moving well then I like his chances here. But if his serve is off and Ivo is getting a lot of first serves in then Ivo will like his chances of winning again.

I think I'll go with Hewitt in four, but I have nightmares about Ivo winning 6-2 7-6 6-3.
Cmon Lleyton :rocker2:

NOTHINGMAN
05-23-2009, 05:12 AM
Lleyton will squander a couple of breaks and match points. Will have the opportunity to win it in 3, but will choke and drag it out till 5 where he will scrape through in completely unconvincing circumstances.

Despite that, Lleyton is safe bet for the RG crown this year.

Acer
05-23-2009, 09:26 AM
Despite that, Lleyton is safe bet for the RG crown this year.
Amen to that :angel:

Goldenoldie
05-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Sad to see a former world number 1 languishing so low in the rankings. If he loses this one, and doesn't do well at Wimbledon he should probably think about retirement. Yes I know he's still relatively young, but he shouldn't allow his career to just fizzle out.

Vida
05-23-2009, 11:26 AM
he he. one cant get more different than the other.

karlovic, though I'll be cheering for Hewitt.

Har-Tru
05-23-2009, 11:47 AM
He's still beaten some decent guys out there, ok Boredo is a clown, but he still has some pedigree, and he's beaten PMK as well.

Croatians know how to move on these courts, given they play outdoors on it.

You're wrong to group Karlovic in with the Isners, Tursunovs, Ginepris and Rawdicks.

don't put words in my mouth that I haven't said. Karlovic should still be beaten on clay by any decent player.

Audacity
05-23-2009, 01:22 PM
Hewitt in 4 or 5. First 2 rounds are a MUST win for Hewitt. Really needs to retain the ranking points.

Tennis-Engineer
05-23-2009, 02:54 PM
Karlovic is a Grand Slam midget.I am still confused how he lost to Falla in the first round of RG last year.Hewitt in 3 or 4.

philosophicalarf
05-23-2009, 03:25 PM
I'm not sure that's the case anymore, if you look at his 3rd set tie-break losses to Roddick and Berdych this year, he has become somewhat flat footed by the third sets.



Yeah, that's definitely true. It's a really slow recovery from the hip surgery for him, although things are improving - the Berdych form was the best I've seen from him this year.

However, on the other side of the coin, Karlovic is the ideal opponent for him at this stage of recovery. Not going to be many long points......

dijus
05-23-2009, 05:57 PM
Ivo will clinch it

Kip
05-23-2009, 06:12 PM
Come back to life Lleyton.

shotgun
05-23-2009, 06:18 PM
It's always the same story with Karlovic and best-of-five matches. He gets tired and is unable to maintain the level of serving throughout the match. Hewitt definitely should win here.

thalle
05-23-2009, 06:26 PM
Lleyton Hewitt in four!

Getta
05-24-2009, 07:42 AM
I'll be cheering for Hewitt.

bad gambler
05-24-2009, 07:48 AM
Hewitt to get his first win over the giant comfortably

Horatio Caine
05-24-2009, 07:58 AM
Two factors which keep this match nicely in Hewitt's favour, for me.

#1, as many have already mentioned, the 'luxury' of a best-of-5 set match. Had it been best-of-3 sets, I'd concede that potentially anything could happen...but in this case Hewitt really ought to be able to wear Ivo down.

#2, and not mentioned by anyone that I could see...the match-up. Sure, this isn't the Hewitt of old, but boy has he liked a target at the net over the years. Not to mention that he is solid enough off either wing to be able to move Karlovic around the court like a puppet on a string.

My only real concern is that Hewitt doesn't serve particularly well, which could obviously put him in danger...and, even on clay, Karlovic is still able to seal a set with a single break of serve out-of-the-blue. :help: But, as others mention, the giant isn't serving to the same standards as he was managing over the last couple of seasons, and if he continues this trend today, he should find that the clay leaves him more exposed than he'd be on a faster surface.

May go the distance, but I really would have to side with Hewitt, and I'd be majorly disappointed if he wouldn't get the win.

moon language
05-24-2009, 08:01 AM
I'll be cheering for Hewitt.

Me too.

Auscon
05-24-2009, 12:39 PM
Unbelievable, Karlovic with 48 aces already, and Lleytons still in it.

Joachim's record sure to go very shortly.

Cmon Lleyton!