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Should Federer pull a Sampras and retire if/when he wins RG or his 15th GS?

LocoPorElTenis
05-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Vote and discuss.

Black Adam
05-21-2009, 04:59 PM
Madrid has woken beasts that we all wish had eternally perished.

LocoPorElTenis
05-21-2009, 05:00 PM
Madrid has woken beasts that we all wish had eternally perished.


Agreed. Your opinion on the question at hand?

MacTheKnife
05-21-2009, 05:03 PM
I think any player should play as long as they want to or their body will allow. Sampras and Agassi played into their 30s, and many guys in previous eras played into their 30s. The question they all have to answer is do I love this game enough to still play, and live with the lower level that I will naturally be at.

calvinhobbes
05-21-2009, 05:04 PM
Madrid has woken beasts that we all wish had eternally perished.

There is only one Beast in the ATP.. . . . periodically roasted, fortunately.

habibko
05-21-2009, 05:06 PM
I think any player should play as long as they want to or their body will allow. Sampras and Agassi played into their 30s, and many guys in previous eras played into their 30s. The question they all have to answer is do I love this game enough to still play, and live with the lower level that I will naturally be at.

this is all that needs to be said, every fan of tennis should cherish the times in which Roger Federer is playing his brilliant and beautiful tennis, he will be sorely missed the moment he calls it quits, a time which I hope is far far away.

LocoPorElTenis
05-21-2009, 05:07 PM
I think any player should play as long as they want to or their body will allow. Sampras and Agassi played into their 30s, and many guys in previous eras played into their 30s. The question they all have to answer is do I love this game enough to still play, and live with the lower level that I will naturally be at.

Sampras however didn't continue playing as long as his body allowed, and in fact by retiring a GS winner showed he could not live with a lower leverl. Sampras <> Agassi in this regard.

MacTheKnife
05-21-2009, 05:09 PM
Sampras however didn't continue playing as long as his body allowed, and in fact by retiring a GS winner showed he could not live with a lower leverl. Sampras <> Agassi in this regard.

I agree. But that's what each has to decide. I think Sampras was able to accept a lower level for so long, and then called it after that big USO win. Let's face, his form was not good for two years before he retired until that last run. As for Agassi, he just could not take the back problems any more.

Note my key words, "want to" OR "their body will allow". That is the decision.

LocoPorElTenis
05-21-2009, 05:15 PM
I agree. But that's what each has to decide. I think Sampras was able to accept a lower level for so long, and then called it after that big USO win. Let's face, his form was not good for two years before he retired until that last run. As for Agassi, he just could not take the back problems any more.

Note my key words, "want to" OR "their body will allow". That is the decision.

Well of course in the end Federer will retire when he sees fit and not based upon the result of a poll in MTF ;) . However we can still give our opinion, isn't that the purpose of MTF anyway? :wavey:

Criollo
05-21-2009, 05:16 PM
To quote myself:

If he gets rid of the shakiness of his FH and - being no longer #1 - avoids the defensive and error-awaiting style of after AO'07, he will remain one of the very attractive players for another 3-4 years.
As long as he can enjoy the sport and makes decent money, there's no reason to deny his art to the public.

habibko
05-21-2009, 05:18 PM
To quote myself:

:yeah: except that his style was never defensive and error-awaiting.

Dougie
05-21-2009, 05:26 PM
I agree. But that's what each has to decide. I think Sampras was able to accept a lower level for so long, and then called it after that big USO win. Let's face, his form was not good for two years before he retired until that last run. As for Agassi, he just could not take the back problems any more.

Note my key words, "want to" OR "their body will allow". That is the decision.

Very true. Sampras´level had dropped so much that practically no one believed he would ever win a GS again. it was miracle he pulled off that last US Open, and I´m sure the decicion was easy after that. He just knew he would never get even close to winning another one.

MacTheKnife
05-21-2009, 05:27 PM
Well of course in the end Federer will retire when he sees fit and not based upon the result of a poll in MTF ;) . However we can still give our opinion, isn't that the purpose of MTF anyway? :wavey:

Absolutely, certainly did not mean to mean otherwise. Just wasn't sure I made my point clear. Sometimes I type faster than I think.:eek:

Criollo
05-21-2009, 05:28 PM
:yeah: except that his style was never defensive and error-awaiting.

Ok. To be more precise: it was an element that came up more. After Madrid, he deplored his lost against Nole in Rome, stating something like "I've got to do something against these guys, I can no longer just wait for errors". DelPotro and Rafa have been the first to learn.

All number ones in sport tend to develop a more defensive style. It's psychology, human nature. Somtimes, loosing #1 position is the best thing that can happen, for the athlete and for the sport.

Mint Chip
05-21-2009, 05:30 PM
Why would he retire just to let moonballers rule the empire of tennis? King Fed got to keep tennis alive

BIGMARAT
05-21-2009, 05:40 PM
No way!!! Sampras was 30+ years old when he won his last slam.

Federer is too young to retire and is still to good!

Federer's greatness is too much that losing a match is already considered slump on his standard.

Man- he's still the US Open defending champion for 5 years straight now!!! Why Retire???

johnny_dhk
05-21-2009, 06:12 PM
Federer will retire 5 years before Nadal does.

Arkulari
05-21-2009, 08:16 PM
Roger is the kind of guy who will play until he's like 35 or something :lol:
his goal is to reach the 2012 Olympics, maybe if he pushes it, even the 2016 (MADRIIDDD!!! :lol: :o ) ones ;)

FedFan_2007
05-21-2009, 08:57 PM
Mods please drag this thread outside and shoot it.

MacTheKnife
05-21-2009, 09:00 PM
Mods please drag this thread outside and shoot it.

Not yet, I'm still trying to figure out how Fed would be pulling a Sampras. Did Pete win RG and I missed it ?? :confused:

prima donna
05-21-2009, 10:02 PM
Yes, why allow a masterpiece to decay and tarnish ? Roger's career has been hitherto a true work of art, it would be both shameful and nonsensical if he were to remain on tour after having finally captured that elusive Roland Garros title.

By the way, if Roger does somehow manage to miraculously win Roland Garros ... oh my.

Jimnik
05-21-2009, 10:14 PM
Only if he wants to.

superslam77
05-21-2009, 10:48 PM
it would be stupid for him to retire without winning all he can..

15 GS to be GOAT.
FO to catch the career grandslam and be GOAT with 14.
record of total weeks #1 to break sampras record.
at least one more YEC to tie sampras.
67 titles to pass sampras record.
18 MS to pass agassi's record.
olympic medalist in singles(gold, silver or bronze).
rome and/or monte carlo would add more respect on clay.
reach or win the final of bercy. would complete final's slam of all GS and MS and/or also all big tourneys won on fast court.
2 more WB for sampras record of 7 and be best in grass.(he already is best on HC).

yep he should stick around for years, because everything he wins from now on adds a lot to the legacy.

w78dexon_y
05-22-2009, 12:47 AM
He won't win RG nor 14 GS, so pointless question. Rog is done.

Sunset of Age
05-22-2009, 12:56 AM
I think any player should play as long as they want to or their body will allow. Sampras and Agassi played into their 30s, and many guys in previous eras played into their 30s. The question they all have to answer is do I love this game enough to still play, and live with the lower level that I will naturally be at.

this is all that needs to be said, every fan of tennis should cherish the times in which Roger Federer is playing his brilliant and beautiful tennis, he will be sorely missed the moment he calls it quits, a time which I hope is far far away.

:yeah: - that's about the perfect way to put it.

Sunset of Age
05-22-2009, 12:57 AM
He won't win RG nor 14 GS, so pointless question. Rog is done.

So are you. Please stop your trolling, it's been enough by now. :zzz:

salut235
05-22-2009, 04:51 AM
no because even if he wins a 15th slam or the french open, if he stops, someone can come in the next few years and threaten his record (might even be Nadal). So he should try winning as much as possible as long as he's playing top level. When Sampras had 14 slams, many experts thought that record was going to stand for a long time and easily, but Federer a few years later threatned it and nobody expected it. And now it's kind of the same, Nadal is on an incredible run and he can threaten all these records in the near future. So it's better for players to try their absolute best and win as much as possible so they have no regrets.

lazyman
05-22-2009, 06:04 AM
Roger said he wants to play long enough so his kid can see him play

FedFan_2007
05-22-2009, 06:07 AM
For Rog's kid to see him playing he's have to keep going past 2014. Not likely.

w78dexon_y
05-22-2009, 06:18 AM
So are you. Please stop your trolling, it's been enough by now. :zzz:

trolling? What are you talking about? Do you kn ow whta trolling is? And the difference between it and a free opinion about some players?

Saxoner
05-22-2009, 06:47 AM
Roger should definitely play until he is unable to compete against the new generation of ATP players. I believe he still has several years left before his quality of play doesn't meet the standards to win Grand Slams.

Mimi
05-22-2009, 08:33 AM
are you joking? If he could win 15 slams (this year), of course he won't retire like Pete, its different, pete was 31 when he won his last slam, while roger is still young, just 27, if i were him, i will chase for the 20's!

LocoPorElTenis
05-22-2009, 09:36 AM
I probably should have made this more clear when asking the question, but I was thinking more along the lines of winning 15th GS or RG in a couple of years time, not this year (which is very unlikely if you ask me). So it'd be more like Sampras situation - if you're already declining but still manage to win a GS and reach a historic landmark, is it time to call it quits? In any case, I voted for the first option like most people :) .