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Nando: I'm Going To Paris With The Intention To Win RG

Arkulari
05-20-2009, 03:26 AM
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=613881&idseccio_PK=1266&h=090519

Nando wants to win the tournament, he wants to improve the results of last year and fight for everything then (if you want to do so, STOP CHOKING!!! :mad: ).

He also said that Madrid isn't really a measure of how the field is towards RG, that Rafa's defeat means nothing and he still is the favourite even if there are strong players like Djoker or Roger

Nando wants to get at least into QF, to keep climbing on the ranks

Mimi
05-20-2009, 03:47 AM
i hope he won't be in rafa's side of draw :eek:

Macbrother
05-20-2009, 03:50 AM
Great. If everyone thought this and meant it, we might have a more interesting tournament.

finishingmove
05-20-2009, 03:54 AM
you go, nando.

roberthenman
05-20-2009, 03:57 AM
:haha: :angel:

gulzhan
05-20-2009, 04:01 AM
I am confused :o To win RG and to get into QF is a BIG difference :lol:

El Legenda
05-20-2009, 04:03 AM
what a tool.

Skyward
05-20-2009, 04:06 AM
What an arrogant prick! With Nadal in the draw, nobody is allowed to believe that they can win.

moonlightdance
05-20-2009, 04:13 AM
you go, girl! vamos, nando.

w78dexon_y
05-20-2009, 04:20 AM
how dare he???

Forehander
05-20-2009, 04:38 AM
In my opinion there's simply something that makes Fernando Verdasco the Future cannot compete consistently with the top 3 players. There's a HUGE weakness in his game and no I'm not talking about the backhand I'm talking about something worst, and that is his speed on court. People may not notice and be blinded by his thunderous strokes but his ball chasing ability is very limited due to his slow speed. I cannot see him winning Grand Slams sorry.

prafull
05-20-2009, 04:55 AM
He will definitely play finals if he can avoid both nadal and djokovic in his part of the draw.

Snowwy
05-20-2009, 05:16 AM
Good to see him wanting to do well, as someone else said, maybe more players should believe this.

FedFan_2007
05-20-2009, 05:43 AM
In my opinion there's simply something that makes Fernando Verdasco the Future cannot compete consistently with the top 3 players. There's a HUGE weakness in his game and no I'm not talking about the backhand I'm talking about something worst, and that is his speed on court. People may not notice and be blinded by his thunderous strokes but his ball chasing ability is very limited due to his slow speed. I cannot see him winning Grand Slams sorry.

I get the impression that his speed is just fine. He just chokes in clutch situation - remember Indian Wells against Federer, the double faults?

pica_pica
05-20-2009, 09:59 AM
I like his attitude. He dares to set a high aim with Rafa, Nole and Roger around. I think he can at least reach QF. I hope he's in Murray's draw.

jrm
05-20-2009, 10:02 AM
Not on clay ...

Frooty_Bazooty
05-20-2009, 10:24 AM
ha i only just realised now that Nando has reached the QF in all 5 masters series this year losing to
nadal x 2
federer
murray
djokovic

pretty impressive

pica_pica
05-20-2009, 10:32 AM
ha i only just realised now that Nando has reached the QF in all 5 masters series this year losing to
nadal x 2
federer
murray
djokovic

pretty impressive
Yeah...plus a SF epic in AO too.....so no reason not tipping him to reach QF in RG......

opeth84
05-20-2009, 10:38 AM
ha i only just realised now that Nando has reached the QF in all 5 masters series this year losing to
nadal x 2
federer
murray
djokovic

pretty impressive


It is. He has achieved alot this year and people expecting anymore of what he has accomplished so far is ridiculous. If he can continue this consitency then he can look at tackling the big 4 when the time comes.

Gnomey
05-20-2009, 10:42 AM
What? So in previous years, he didn't go with the intention of winning it?

marcRD
05-20-2009, 11:45 AM
In my opinion there's simply something that makes Fernando Verdasco the Future cannot compete consistently with the top 3 players. There's a HUGE weakness in his game and no I'm not talking about the backhand I'm talking about something worst, and that is his speed on court. People may not notice and be blinded by his thunderous strokes but his ball chasing ability is very limited due to his slow speed. I cannot see him winning Grand Slams sorry.

That is why he is a pretty good matchup against Nadal and Murray but not to Federer. Nadal and Murray will often put him on a position where he can attack all the match while Federer takes time from Verdasci and would rather push him around and make him defend.

It is funny how he matchup greater than most against Nadal but still is a turkey, he surely got worms in his brain or something.

Verdasco probably has the greatest shotmaking ability on the tour when he is standing still, it is such a shame that he cant even hit a running forehand, not to mention his nerves belongs to the WTA.

Sunset of Age
05-20-2009, 11:47 AM
What? So in previous years, he didn't go with the intention of winning it?

:lol: :yeah:

It's quite simple - if you are a professional athlete, OF COURSE you enter a tournament - any tournament - with the intention of winning it!

Castafiore
05-20-2009, 11:57 AM
^ That's the theory anyway. There's reality as well.

I hardly think that Christophe Rochus enters Roland Garros with the intention of winning it. :shrug: He enters with the intention of winning as many rounds as possible.

I'm guessing that in previous years, Verdasco went in with a similar frame of mind (let's see how many rounds I can survive) and perhaps now, he goes in believing that he can actually win it.

habibko
05-20-2009, 11:59 AM
^ That's the theory anyway. There's reality as well.

I hardly think that Christophe Rochus enters Roland Garros with the intention of winning it. :shrug: He enters with the intention of winning as many rounds as possible.

I'm guessing that in previous years, Verdasco went in with a similar frame of mind (let's see how many rounds I can survive) and perhaps now, he goes in believing that he can actually win it.

very true, even Fed himself said it, that before his win in Madrid, he didn't really think he had a chance, but now things have changed for him, what Karin is talking about is the ideal situation, but in reality every player has his doubts and expectations deep within.

this is a positive sign for the FeVer, let's see if he can also walk the walk :cool:

StanisKing
05-20-2009, 12:03 PM
He is spending too much time with Djokovic, obviously.

Venle
05-20-2009, 01:35 PM
Maybe this makes the Parisian brick more interesting...

Good result ain't gonna happen with Nadal on his quarter, though. :)

FlameOn
05-20-2009, 01:51 PM
Go Nando! I'll be behind you all the way baby. :yeah:

Bernard Black
05-20-2009, 01:51 PM
Fasten your seatbelts and enjoy the ride.

philosophicalarf
05-20-2009, 02:24 PM
ha i only just realised now that Nando has reached the QF in all 5 masters series this year losing to
nadal x 2
federer
murray
djokovic



He's always been a very consistent mug-crusher, with career 95% winrate at odds under 1.4 (completely contrary to his image, which is one of those myths of tennis). With a top10 ranking that ability to reliably win as a big favourite means a near automatic QF for everything he enters. Unfortunately, since his breakthrough the bookies are no longer so generous, that was free money for so, so long :-)


To move on from that though? Maybe he needs another mental breakthrough, like the Davis Cup one last year. Perhaps a win against Nadal in the N American hard court season?

timafi
05-20-2009, 02:46 PM
let's hope both Verdasco and Djokovic end up on Nadal's side of the draw

MacTheKnife
05-20-2009, 02:47 PM
The better question would be what top 10 guys are going there with the intention of losing. That would help us with our predictions.

FlameOn
05-20-2009, 02:57 PM
The better question would be what top 10 guys are going there with the intention of losing. That would help us with our predictions.
Well, Nando's quite a new Top-10 player. Last year, hell, even a few months ago, he would've entered a slam probably thinking "I hope I make it past R128". This is Nando 2.0 making a statement. I think it's probably the first time he's really been able to say this with a bit of conviction.

Kip
05-20-2009, 03:00 PM
Great. If everyone thought this and meant it, we might have a more interesting tournament.

Absolutely!

marcRD
05-20-2009, 03:03 PM
The better question would be what top 10 guys are going there with the intention of losing. That would help us with our predictions.

Murray just wants to get to the 2nd week and Roddick would probably be satisfied going to the 2nd round.

Losing? Nah, maybe if Gasquet would still be around, but no one in the top 10 have such intentions.

the graduate
05-20-2009, 03:54 PM
he should stop having sex before RG maybe he will win

El Legenda
05-20-2009, 04:58 PM
no kidding even Roddick goes in to Paris with intention to win RG...well maybe not roddick.

Sapeod
05-20-2009, 05:40 PM
It's good that he has determination, but it ain't happening...ever.

out_here_grindin
05-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Good. if you go into a tournament with the mentality of 'i'm going to lose". Than you certainly will

Havok
05-21-2009, 01:01 AM
I just hope he doesn't draw Nadal.

the graduate
05-21-2009, 01:38 AM
he was taking notes during Rafa and Roger match he must be determined to beat Nadal:devil:

robiht
05-21-2009, 05:34 PM
Almost impossible for him to win, but he will try im sure :)

I hope for Federer-Verdasco QF on Garros.It would be a great match...

FlameOn
05-22-2009, 12:52 PM
Let's check Nando's draw:

1R - Serra.
2R - Qualifier/Petschner
3R - Almagro
4R - Davydenko/Wawrinka
QF - Rafael Nadal.

fred perry
05-22-2009, 01:33 PM
and I am going with the intention of bagging eva green. it's nice to aim high.

Rafa#Uno:-)
05-22-2009, 01:47 PM
sadly for nando that he draws nadal all the time nowadays....or sad for rafa nandos best surface is HC
and rafas best is clay
so if nando win big thing!
is he having a lot of sex before the match against rafa he will lose I guess...
he is a little slow and if he cant hit running forehand then problems....

Commander Data
05-22-2009, 02:19 PM
The better question would be what top 10 guys are going there with the intention of losing. That would help us with our predictions.

Del Potro, Roddick, Simon, Davydenko, Tsonga (?)

oranges
05-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Del Potro, Roddick, Simon, Davydenko, Tsonga (?)

:spit: I bet all of them are contemplating losing. Kolya made semis twice by doing just that.

As for Nando, curiously enough I liked him better when he was a total headcase. Naturally, you enter the tournament with the hope of doing your best and every match with the intention of winning, but this sounds more like he's trying to convince everyone, including himself. I'm not convinced and the cocky on-court attitude and complementing woodpecker hairstyle, which gets more ridiculous by the day, don't help.

Commander Data
05-22-2009, 02:53 PM
:spit: I bet all of them are contemplating losing. Kolya made semis twice by doing just that.



Subconsciously they have accepeted defeat already. reality is following minds expectations. thus, basically their intention is not to win RG. :spit:

oranges
05-22-2009, 03:02 PM
Subconsciously they have accepeted defeat already. reality is following minds expectations. thus, basically their intention is not to win RG. :spit:

Oh please, why not add Roger to the list then

ballbasher101
05-22-2009, 03:04 PM
Nando is delusional to say the least. He is funny I never knew :lol:

Commander Data
05-22-2009, 03:08 PM
Oh please, why not add Roger to the list then

I honestly think he believes in his chances. But, you can put him on the list if you like.

oranges
05-22-2009, 03:14 PM
I honestly think he believes in his chances. But, you can put him on the list if you like.

I honestly think he subconsciously lost the last two GS finals to Nadal in advance. Don't see how a RG one of all things would suddenly become different. But more to the point, the list is endless then and you can pretty much apply the same more than vague criteria to every match lost. I'm quite sure Roddick has not entered any of his RG matches believing consciously or unconsciously he would lose (he's never made it far enough where that might be an option to begin with), he's just not good enough on clay.

Commander Data
05-22-2009, 03:29 PM
I honestly think he subconsciously lost the last two GS finals to Nadal in advance. Don't see how a RG one of all things would suddenly become different. But more to the point, the list is endless then and you can pretty much apply the same more than vague criteria to every match lost. I'm quite sure Roddick has not entered any of his RG matches believing consciously or unconsciously he would lose (he's never made it far enough where that might be an option to begin with), he's just not good enough on clay.

I agree. we should not take this thing to far. My point was more: Who does seriously believe he can win RG? And I think that group is rather small.

oranges
05-22-2009, 03:58 PM
I agree. we should not take this thing to far. My point was more: Who does seriously believe he can win RG? And I think that group is rather small.

I don't think many of them contemplate the chances of winning the tournament in advance, unless they are among the favorites, but that doesn't mean they don't enter each and ever match with the intention of winning it, which for hte purposes of establishing who expects to lose is good enough. :shrug:

It's probably for the same reasons that I consider Nando's announcements pretty empty. If he's not among the favorites, but he feels the need to make this public announcement of his ambition, IMO he's trying too hard to convince everyone. It would make sense prior to some high profile match to state your belief in yourself. This way, it demonstrate more the need to build some belief than its presence. In any case, he's certainly not more confident he'd win it than say Davydenko and a bunch of other guys who could do well.

SheepleBuster
05-22-2009, 04:06 PM
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=613881&idseccio_PK=1266&h=090519

Nando wants to win the tournament, he wants to improve the results of last year and fight for everything then (if you want to do so, STOP CHOKING!!! :mad: ).

He also said that Madrid isn't really a measure of how the field is towards RG, that Rafa's defeat means nothing and he still is the favourite even if there are strong players like Djoker or Roger

Nando wants to get at least into QF, to keep climbing on the ranks

:haha::haha::haha::drive::haha::haha::haha::bolt: :haha::haha::haha::smash:

Nando won't make it out of the 3rd round. That's winning by his standards.

CooCooCachoo
05-22-2009, 04:28 PM
Well, he's got a good draw.

Commander Data
05-22-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't think many of them contemplate the chances of winning the tournament in advance, unless they are among the favorites, but that doesn't mean they don't enter each and ever match with the intention of winning it, which for hte purposes of establishing who expects to lose is good enough. :shrug:

It's probably for the same reasons that I consider Nando's announcements pretty empty. If he's not among the favorites, but he feels the need to make this public announcement of his ambition, IMO he's trying too hard to convince everyone. It would make sense prior to some high profile match to state your belief in yourself. This way, it demonstrate more the need to build some belief than its presence. In any case, he's certainly not more confident he'd win it than say Davydenko and a bunch of other guys who could do well.

You are right.

oranges
05-22-2009, 04:33 PM
Well, he's got a good draw.

I hope that was sarcastic :)

lurker
05-22-2009, 04:49 PM
Well, that's a little prophetic now, Nando saying he wants to make it to at least the QF. No matter the build up, no way he is going further. That is where it ends, seeing as he is slated to meet Rafa there! :lol:

Serenidad
05-22-2009, 07:27 PM
Well, that's a little prophetic now, Nando saying he wants to make it to at least the QF. No matter the build up, no way he is going further. That is where it ends, seeing as he is slated to meet Rafa there! :lol:

Pretty much. He'll probably blow a good opportunity to take a set.

brent-o
05-22-2009, 08:45 PM
You know, it says a whole lot that he has to announce it this year. So he never believed it in the past? I'm thinking not.

BaselineSmash
05-23-2009, 02:05 AM
Well, he's got a good draw.

True that.

I do like to make fun of Verdasco, but in this case it's refreshing to hear some positive noises from him about the slams. In the AO semi with Nadal, I think he got to 30-0 on Nadal's serve at 4-4 in the fifth. Nadal looked over at his camp with a look of desperation, as if considering for the first time that he might lose.

So yeah, I'm backing Verdasco to not get bagelled in the QFs this year.

w78dexon_y
05-23-2009, 07:35 AM
if he can hire the coach who will teach him two things, Nando would be able to go through to the RG final without big trouble!!

thing One: to play less low percentage points.
thing Two: to keep his (mental) composure in the very tough moments.

Everything else he already possesses. Had he applid these two things (SOMEHOW) against Rafa, he could dsimantle the King in 4!

Rafa is favourite there (q/f), but, an upset wouldn`t surprise me at all.

heya
05-23-2009, 08:58 AM
Verdy's upretentious and a sweety, so it's nice to see him improve greatly. Hopefully, he won't have bandwagon fake fans like the ones in the Federer, Hewitt, Blake and Roddick websites.

modern tennis
05-23-2009, 08:59 AM
how dare verdasco believe he can win the title with nadal in the draw.

Sunset of Age
05-23-2009, 01:12 PM
how dare verdasco believe he can win the title with nadal in the draw.

He didn't say that. He said he's going to RG with the intention to win. A subtle difference.
In fact, he's only said what every player should be thinking, or else they have no business of going there in the first place. ;)

Acer
05-23-2009, 01:19 PM
Verdy's upretentious and a sweety, so it's nice to see him improve greatly. Hopefully, he won't have bandwagon fake fans like the ones in the Federer, Hewitt, Blake and Roddick websites.

Hewitt? Bandwagon? :confused: Certainly not nowadays at least.

FlameOn
05-23-2009, 02:11 PM
if he can hire the coach who will teach him two things, Nando would be able to go through to the RG final without big trouble!!

thing One: to play less low percentage points.
thing Two: to keep his (mental) composure in the very tough moments.

Everything else he already possesses. Had he applid these two things (SOMEHOW) against Rafa, he could dsimantle the King in 4!

Rafa is favourite there (q/f), but, an upset wouldn`t surprise me at all.

If his head is like in the place where he can make statesments like he did in the OP, can upset Rafa. Of course it's a longshot. Of course it probably won't happen. But look at their three matches this year. He came this close in Melbourne, the second one Rafa won 6-3, 6-3 but Nando was having knee problems, and in the last one in Madrid, Nando lead 4-0 in a set.

Nando is a more dangerous matchup for Rafa than the H2H record suggests. Most of the matches were won by Rafa before Nando has become the worthy player he is lately.

After Djokovic and Federer, Nando is definitely the third most-likely to upset Rafa on clay.

Like I said, unlikely to happen, but not impossible.

Har-Tru
05-23-2009, 02:23 PM
if he can hire the coach who will teach him two things, Nando would be able to go through to the RG final without big trouble!!

thing One: to play less low percentage points.
thing Two: to keep his (mental) composure in the very tough moments.

Everything else he already possesses. Had he applid these two things (SOMEHOW) against Rafa, he could dsimantle the King in 4!

Rafa is favourite there (q/f), but, an upset wouldn`t surprise me at all.

:haha:

your_valentine
05-23-2009, 04:57 PM
:spit: at haters.
That's the right attitude from Fernando, I hope he can go far :yeah:

marcRD
05-23-2009, 05:03 PM
I prefer the kind of matches Ferrer has been able to produce against Nadal on clay than Verdasco, but Verdasco has more potential to do harm. I like the Ferrer-Verdasco combination, Ferrer causing some long rallies and physical tennis and Verdasco going for the kill. I have learned over the years that no player is able to alone beat Nadal on clay but combinations of players (or tournaments, enviroment) might take Nadal down. Ferrer plays Nadal for 5 hours in a 4 set match and Verdasco going for the kill would be interesting, but I have little faith in Verdasco after what I saw from him in Madrid. After Verdasco Nadal can rest against Montanes and he will slaughter Federer/Djokovic in the final.

TennisViewer531
05-23-2009, 06:06 PM
Good luck Nando..

Noleta
05-23-2009, 06:34 PM
Great attitude but he puts more pressure on him than necesaary:shrug:

FlameOn
05-24-2009, 01:35 AM
you'd like that wouldn't you
:confused:

norwegian_wood
05-24-2009, 01:33 PM
^:tape:

Anyway, he's making a nice start. :) i just hope he hasn't put too much pressure on himself.

Orysbestos
05-24-2009, 06:55 PM
:confused:

;)

Good luck NANDO.