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Calleri d. Lu 36 75 01 retired - very strange....

philosophicalarf
05-18-2009, 05:46 PM
Lu wins first set.

Lu gets to *5-6 40-0 in second set.

Lu double faults, loses next 4 points to give away set.

Lu breaks immediately at start of third.

Lu retires.


ps guess who I bet on? :-)

PiggyGotRoasted
05-18-2009, 05:47 PM
fix

Certinfy
05-18-2009, 05:47 PM
Crazy crazy crazy.

Action Jackson
05-18-2009, 05:47 PM
If you are whining, then it was Lu and your bookie doesn't void retirements.

philosophicalarf
05-18-2009, 05:50 PM
Who's wining ffs? See the smilie? That inidcates I'm laughing about it.

Action Jackson
05-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Who's wining ffs? See the smilie? That inidcates I'm laughing about it.

Try reading the first word. The word "if" is the key and then you will get the context.

GlennMirnyi
05-18-2009, 06:02 PM
The only way Calleri can win a match nowadays.

Iván
05-18-2009, 06:04 PM
I WILL find you Lu

Corey Feldman
05-18-2009, 06:08 PM
fat Calleri likes it in Kitz

Minotaur
05-18-2009, 08:45 PM
I think Lu sold the match as usual. He is a master at fixing

finishingmove
05-18-2009, 09:01 PM
:haha:

cocrcici
05-18-2009, 09:19 PM
I WILL find you Lu

:lol:

dylan24
05-18-2009, 10:29 PM
can't trust these oriental fixers

Bilbo
05-18-2009, 10:32 PM
Lu probably was afraid to win his first match on clay in 5 years

philosophicalarf
05-18-2009, 11:53 PM
can't trust these oriental fixers

Drawing attention to it by breaking serve then immediately retiring would seem to be rather unlikely :-)

hcfoo
05-19-2009, 03:27 AM
Calleri is a better clay courter than Rendy who barely play on that surface.

The reason why he retired was due to illness which bugged him since at Izmir.

jmf07
05-19-2009, 04:28 AM
The reason why he retired was due to illness which bugged him since at Izmir.

:eek: illness. Makes it even more strange why he retired at the time he did. I was expecting more like he did something that did not enable him to hit the ball eg. broke a bone. The illness must have been bad.

hcfoo
05-19-2009, 05:10 AM
:eek: illness. Makes it even more strange why he retired at the time he did. I was expecting more like he did something that did not enable him to hit the ball eg. broke a bone. The illness must have been bad.

To be precise, it was flu.

Last week, the tournament director of Izmir sent a photo of Lu who was waiting for his medical report and then confirmed that Lu was down with flu which resulted in his first round lost.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Qg6J04XZhR4/Sgpj0VWDeBI/AAAAAAAAG2I/pEmpHbockcg/s400/CIMG4339.JPG

hcfoo
05-19-2009, 05:16 AM
:eek: illness. Makes it even more strange why he retired at the time he did. I was expecting more like he did something that did not enable him to hit the ball eg. broke a bone. The illness must have been bad.

I'm sure you know players don't need to break a bone in order to retire from a match.

*esther*
05-19-2009, 05:53 AM
If you guys have follow him closely, you'll know he's damn inconsistent even though in futures, challengers or even davis cup. To be frank, he doesn't play clay that much since he turns pro and 2009 is his breakthrough to the clay court.

philosophicalarf
05-19-2009, 02:22 PM
If you guys have follow him closely, you'll know he's damn inconsistent even though in futures, challengers or even davis cup. To be frank, he doesn't play clay that much since he turns pro and 2009 is his breakthrough to the clay court.

That's putting it mildly - I can only see 10 matches in his entire career :-) Only won two of them as well, last one 5 years ago against a player ranked 250ish.

Despite this, he was still good enough to outmatch Calleri on clay, even when unwell.....

Tennis-Engineer
05-19-2009, 03:06 PM
Strange to see Lu in a clay tournament :lol:

Action Jackson
05-19-2009, 03:07 PM
Lu loves his hardcourt challengers.

Jimnik
05-19-2009, 03:24 PM
Ironically Lu is the only Asian that stays fit and healthy most of the time. He plays tons of tournaments every year, the Davydenko of the challenger tour.

Sapeod
05-19-2009, 03:31 PM
Yes. Very strange indeed. Calleri won a match :eek:

NyGeL
05-19-2009, 03:40 PM
do you get paid if your player won by retirement?

Sapeod
05-19-2009, 03:42 PM
do you get paid if your player won by retirement?
Don't really know. But if your player lost by retirement you get you're cash back. Maybe it's the same for the winner :shrug:

philosophicalarf
05-19-2009, 04:32 PM
do you get paid if your player won by retirement?

Depends on the book. Some don't void for retirements at all, some only void for retirements in the first set, some first two sets (notably pinnacle), some void regardless when the retirement was.

Books are gradually shifting towards the latter, since "that" matchfixing report. Hasn't really achieved much though, as retirement fixes are pretty rare now it seems.

pica_pica
05-19-2009, 05:59 PM
LU hates clay, just look at his history. No clay match in 2008. He finds it hard to retire in the match because Calleri is playing crap? So he has to create DFs and UEs all by himself

*esther*
05-20-2009, 03:05 AM
That's putting it mildly - I can only see 10 matches in his entire career :-) Only won two of them as well, last one 5 years ago against a player ranked 250ish.

Despite this, he was still good enough to outmatch Calleri on clay, even when unwell.....

If you had watch the match he played in Delray Beach against Stefan Koubek who ranked 200++, he was fit and healthy at that time, yet he still lost the match though he's playing on his "favourite" hard court. ( ooppsss..... he was ranked top 60 at that time )

gulzhan
05-20-2009, 03:23 AM
wow, strange that this deserves a thread :lol:

philosophicalarf
05-20-2009, 03:54 AM
If you had watch the match he played in Delray Beach against Stefan Koubek who ranked 200++, he was fit and healthy at that time, yet he still lost the match though he's playing on his "favourite" hard court. ( ooppsss..... he was ranked top 60 at that time )

I remember that one - wasn't overly surprising as Koubek is way better than his ranking, at least when fit (they started the match with about level odds I think). He missed a large chunk of 2008 with a back injury, and was only starting to recover some form by playing challengers at the tail end of the year.

Course, Lu had just beaten Hewitt the previous round so maybe better things expected of him :-)

hcfoo
05-20-2009, 04:43 AM
I remember that one - wasn't overly surprising as Koubek is way better than his ranking, at least when fit (they started the match with about level odds I think). He missed a large chunk of 2008 with a back injury, and was only starting to recover some form by playing challengers at the tail end of the year.

Course, Lu had just beaten Hewitt the previous round so maybe better things expected of him :-)

Looking at Lu's inconsistency, maybe we should lower our expectation whenever he beat a favourite.

*esther*
05-20-2009, 04:46 AM
Perhaps Gulbis' inconsistency deserves a similar thread too. ;)

hcfoo
05-20-2009, 05:30 AM
Perhaps Gulbis' inconsistency deserves a similar thread too. ;)

:lol:

Dougie
05-20-2009, 06:05 AM
Looking at Lu's inconsistency, maybe we should lower our expectation whenever he beat a favourite.


It´s not actually that uncommon that a player who beats a heavy favorite, goes on to lose to a far inferior player the next round. It´s a mental issue. If Christophe Rochus would beat Nadal at the 1st round of RG ( hypothetical, I admit), it sure wouldn´t make him the favorite to win the tournament.

Also, as stated before, Koubek is way better than his ranking, not consistently better, but he can beat top 50 names on any given day.