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Del Potro or Murray . . . Think about it

desigundah
05-16-2009, 12:56 PM
Who is tennis next big thing?

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 01:01 PM
Another bandwagon thread, why?

VolandriFan
05-16-2009, 01:03 PM
I think they both have a big crush on the other. No joke.

Tom_Bombadil
05-16-2009, 01:05 PM
Del Potro has the age advantage. Remember he's just 20 years old. He could be a really really good player.

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 01:05 PM
We all know what will happen this thread popularity if Potro loses Federer and its not gonna be pretty.

Tom_Bombadil
05-16-2009, 01:06 PM
I don't think Del Potro needs to win Federer today. He needs to build on his game this season and make an impact in 2010 IMO

For me, winning or losing today is not important. He's being playing really solid and his groundstrokes are really good.

desigundah
05-16-2009, 01:07 PM
Another bandwagon thread, why?

how is this a bandwagon thread you idiot? Who is being bandwagoned? JMDP is #5 in the world, hes been there now and looks like hes there to stay. This has nothing to do w/ the defeat yesterday.

norwegian_wood
05-16-2009, 01:08 PM
Rafael Nadal is the next biggest thing.

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 01:10 PM
come on man, no need to get angry...good thread this is but its gonna turn eventually bandwagon thread, and no real discussion.

habibko
05-16-2009, 01:10 PM
Del Pony kinda needs to make his first GS semis first...

desigundah
05-16-2009, 01:18 PM
Del Pony kinda needs to make his first GS semis first...

He's only 20. Its only a matter of time really.

miura
05-16-2009, 01:23 PM
Neither.

Goldenoldie
05-16-2009, 01:34 PM
Cilic?

rtgy
05-16-2009, 01:41 PM
Another bandwagon thread, why?


true.....:lol:


We all know what will happen this thread popularity if Potro loses Federer and its not gonna be pretty.


:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

federernadalfan
05-16-2009, 01:50 PM
murray

w78dexon_y
05-16-2009, 02:21 PM
Apparently we are entering the tough tennis era. Weeak Federer's era is gone. Firstly, Rafa needed to battle Rog to make a breakthrough. Then Djoker needed to beat Rafa and Rog to make a breakthrough. Then Murr needed to beat Rafa, Rog and Djoker to make breakthrough. Now Delpo has the toughest task so far: to beat Rafa, Rog, Djoker, and Murray to make breakthrough!! Indeed, tough era produces tough players.

Emergence of Djoker, Murr and Delpo is definitelly good for tennis. They all are less than 22. We have a lot of great tennis years to come. Soon, we will lose Rog, but there will be some more youngsters to emerge.

Honestly watching Rog vs Rafa almost every major finals is boring!! We need new fresh blood, to watch new fresh styles. Players with interesting personalities. Delpo sure is a potential and materila. What I liked particularly yesterday that was his damn strong net play!! He was not embarassed there not for a milisec. The kid is coming.

And to answer to the thread: He is better potential than Murr. His game has better techincal elements. But, yet way below Rafa's Djok's and Rog's.

Iván
05-16-2009, 02:25 PM
JMDP has awesome power and accuracy

Murray pushes better though as roger told us back in dubai.

Action Jackson
05-16-2009, 02:26 PM
Bit late with this one.

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 02:53 PM
del Potro main improvement is that he can kill those shortballs little bit better, still he has to improve that littlebit more.And at times he can even play some good angles in his forehand side but still lot of improve...he has to play some angles against federer and not shoot those middle of the court rockets.

MacTheKnife
05-16-2009, 03:15 PM
Has a guy 6'5" ever been in the top 3. I'm not sure one that big has ever been in the top 5 until now. That is big to maintain movement at the highest level over 5 sets.

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 03:18 PM
btw potro is 6'6" not 6'5" =D // and Goran ivanisevic was tall guy and was number 2.

Sapeod
05-16-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm not being biased here, but Murray without a doubt.

Lullaby
05-16-2009, 03:25 PM
Funny thread

Murray will make del po his pidgeon during his career with del po have successes every now and again

Muzza lost last night due to

a) Birthday Curse
b) losing his mind along with his string at 5-2 first set
c) getting the balance between attack & defense completely wrong and
d) Still not being all that consistent on clay

MacTheKnife
05-16-2009, 03:27 PM
btw potro is 6'6" not 6'5" =D // and Goran ivanisevic was tall guy and was number 2.

I thought he was 6'6", but they kept saying 6"5" during his matches. Goran was 6'4", and as far as I know, he was the biggest guy ever to reach the top 3.

yellowboy906
05-16-2009, 03:32 PM
i can't believe this thread. people give no respect to djokovic and think that murray is a lot better than him. but now you are asking del potro or murray? djokovic is basically a better version of del potro with better movement, forehand, backhand, volley, serve and mental. what did i miss?

Sapeod
05-16-2009, 03:38 PM
I thought he was 6'6", but they kept saying 6"5" during his matches. Goran was 6'4", and as far as I know, he was the biggest guy ever to reach the top 3.
Safin and Ljubicic are 6'4" as well.

oranges
05-16-2009, 03:38 PM
I thought he was 6'6", but they kept saying 6"5" during his matches. Goran was 6'4", and as far as I know, he was the biggest guy ever to reach the top 3.

Safin is also 6'4"

MacTheKnife
05-16-2009, 03:42 PM
OK, I'm assuming from replies that 6'4" is the biggest guy that ever broke the top 3.

Clydey
05-16-2009, 04:05 PM
Is Juan Monaco the next big thing in tennis? You know, because Murray is a huge scalp on clay now.

Gotta laugh at this thread. Murray beat DP just a few weeks ago and now suddenly Pony has more potential because he beat Murray on clay. :lol:

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 04:14 PM
Clydey, it is cool to own your life to defend murray every single day in this forum? :)

Clydey
05-16-2009, 04:23 PM
Clydey, it is cool to own your life to defend murray every single day in this forum? :)

I've made one post today about Murray, dude. :lol:

You, however, have made several posts today in which you continue to spout nonsense.

rubbERR
05-16-2009, 04:33 PM
to me win over murray on any surface is big thesedays...he is pretty good claycourter thesedays too...of course hardcourts he is better but still :P

Clydey
05-16-2009, 04:37 PM
to me win over murray on any surface is big thesedays...he is pretty good claycourter thesedays too...of course hardcourts he is better but still :P

He's an alright clay courter. Good enough to beat the likes of Robredo, but it's really not a huge win for DP. I mean, Monaco beat him a few weeks ago, too.

finishingmove
06-06-2009, 02:16 AM
who will win a slam first?

pony or muzza?

discuss

DJ Soup
06-06-2009, 02:25 AM
I think Delpo should start to have more edge at beating Murray. At least, this is what I expect to happen in the next months. Grass might be the exception, I dont know.

Federerhingis
06-06-2009, 02:34 AM
Murray has a lot more variety to his game and has a great tactical toolbox. On the one hand I prefer Murrays backhand and his return of serve and on another front I prefer Del Potro's serve and forehand.

Both are the future of tennis if they remain focused, healthy and driven.

philosophicalarf
06-06-2009, 02:39 AM
Krajicek was 6'5 - not sure he ever broke the top3 though, and can't be bothered checking.

ballbasher101
06-06-2009, 02:56 AM
Del-potro is headed in the right direction. Even though Murray is now at number 3 I feel that he has actually taken a step back in his progress. The big game of Del-potro will give him more chances to win majors compared to Murray in my view.

Arkulari
06-06-2009, 03:26 AM
Del Potro's game appeals more to me than Muzza's, but they are both great young players and can easily be the next big guns when the current ones go out of circulation :yeah:

casabe
06-06-2009, 03:56 AM
well this year delpotro had better result in both slams

Goldenoldie
06-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Murray has more variety, control, movement, self-belief, skill and adaptability.

Del Potro has more inches.

Clydey
06-06-2009, 11:13 AM
Del-potro is headed in the right direction. Even though Murray is now at number 3 I feel that he has actually taken a step back in his progress. The big game of Del-potro will give him more chances to win majors compared to Murray in my view.

Even though he had his best ever clay season, he's taken a step back? He's a nut hair away from going to world number 2.

Del Potro's best chance is RG. There are too many players who are streets ahead of him on hard and grass. He's not going to win any slams on the faster surfaces, in my opinion. This is just another kneejerk reaction from MTF. The memory of your average MTF member only covers the last month of tennis. Del Potro had a better clay season than Murray, so it surely follows that he will win a slam on grass or hard before Murray.

Remember Murray's clay court season last year? It was a horror show. We all saw how badly that affected his progress.

Certinfy
06-06-2009, 11:16 AM
Don't know... Both are my 2 fave players :)

ballbasher101
06-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Even though he had his best ever clay season, he's taken a step back? He's a nut hair away from going to world number 2.

Del Potro's best chance is RG. There are too many players who are streets ahead of him on hard and grass. He's not going to win any slams on the faster surfaces, in my opinion. This is just another kneejerk reaction from MTF. The memory of your average MTF member only covers the last month of tennis. Del Potro had a better clay season than Murray, so it surely follows that he will win a slam on grass or hard before Murray.

Remember Murray's clay court season last year? It was a horror show. We all saw how badly that affected his progress.

Murray has gone back to his old tactics of being tentative and I do not think he is serving as well as he was doing last year. Decent progress on clay yes but still far from being good enough. The American hard court season will be very telling so maybe we should wait for that before making any more judgements.

Cloudygirl
06-06-2009, 11:26 AM
maybe both of them much as it pains me to see Del Po as a contender

scoobs
06-06-2009, 11:28 AM
So what, is Djokovic finished? (again)?

Clydey
06-06-2009, 11:32 AM
Murray has gone back to his old tactics of being tentative and I do not think he is serving as well as he was doing last year. Decent progress on clay yes but still far from being good enough. The American hard court season will be very telling so maybe we should wait for that before making any more judgements.

I genuinely have no idea what you mean. He had accrued the second most points since the start of the year before the clay season. He's pulled further ahead of Djokovic. It was the same thing last year, only much worse. Murray dominated the last 6 months of the season despite a horrible clay season. This has no bearing on how he'll perform on the other surfaces.

ballbasher101
06-06-2009, 11:39 AM
I genuinely have no idea what you mean. He had accrued the second most points since the start of the year before the clay season. He's pulled further ahead of Djokovic. It was the same thing last year, only much worse. Murray dominated the last 6 months of the season despite a horrible clay season. This has no bearing on how he'll perform on the other surfaces.

Is Murray winning, the answer is yes but he is not playing as well as he was late last year. That is what I am trying to say. Same goes for Federer he has reached the French open final without playing anywhere near his best. Just because someone is winning it does not mean they are playing that well. I know that Murray had a problem early on in the year due the virus and maybe that has affected him.

Clydey
06-06-2009, 11:42 AM
Is Murray winning, the answer is yes but he is not playing as well as he was late last year. That is what I am trying to say. Same goes for Federer he has reached the French open final without playing anywhere near his best. Just because someone is winning it does not mean they are playing that well. I know that Murray had a problem early on in the year due the virus and maybe that has affected him.

I think he's playing just as well as last year, if not better. Obviously not on the clay, but certainly on the hard courts. That's just my view, though.

ballbasher101
06-06-2009, 11:48 AM
I think he's playing just as well as last year, if not better. Obviously not on the clay, but certainly on the hard courts. That's just my view, though.

I must say that it is difficult to judge the form of players since there are many variables involved. Murray is now a big scalp so obviously lower ranked players give their all when they play him so maybe that is why I think he is not playing that well.

Venle
06-06-2009, 01:21 PM
Both are very promising. We should hope they meet in USO (not Wimbledon and the crowd for Murray). A rematch will prove who's the real deal. :)

FedFan_2007
06-06-2009, 02:23 PM
I would bet Del Potro wins the US Open this year, not Murray.

Federerhingis
06-06-2009, 03:26 PM
So what, is Djokovic finished? (again)?

Chris I don't think, or I would like to think that the lack of mention of Novak, is due to the fact that he's already an established force, while he's struggled to find his grand slam winning form, he's still an established member of the top 5 and a slam winner. Whereas Murray and especially Del Potro is still up an coming, still making his name younger player.

OldSilentHill
06-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Del Pony kinda needs to make his first GS semis first...


:cool:

Noleta
06-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Del Potro still have to prove himself while Murray already did but in tennis is so unpredictable everything can happen:D

Andi-M
06-06-2009, 04:52 PM
Both will be great, hope Murray does better cos i :hearts: him, but Potro is a force and could eclipse the achievements of Murray and Djokovic in years to come. Only time will tell.