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Who is THE GREATEST front-runner in tennis history?

vamosinator
05-09-2009, 09:57 AM
Nadal only lost ONE match in grand slams after leading 1 set to love.

Is Nadal the GOAT front-runner or has their been better?

Dougie
05-09-2009, 10:01 AM
Why don´t you take the weekend off...

kingfederer
05-09-2009, 10:05 AM
Why don´t you take the weekend off...

lol, leave her alone, she is one of rafa's wives in MTF! rafa has many wives all over the world.

kingfederer
05-09-2009, 10:08 AM
Nadal only lost ONE match in grand slams after leading 1 set to love.

Is Nadal the GOAT front-runner or has their been better?

yes he is, i think he is 76-1 when he wins the 1st set in slams and his only loss after winning the 1st set was to ferrer in 2007 US open, and that whole tournament he had tendinitis and esp. in that match. rafa's legend grows.

finishingmove
05-09-2009, 10:12 AM
mathieu

Serenidad
05-09-2009, 10:14 AM
mathieu

Hernandez for sure.

kingfederer
05-09-2009, 10:16 AM
Hernandez for sure.

oh please, enough with the herdandez is god thing.

GlennMirnyi
05-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Safin.

Doggy
05-09-2009, 11:51 AM
Hantuchova

Iván
05-09-2009, 12:33 PM
Melzer

FairWeatherFan
05-09-2009, 12:58 PM
Do you only start threads to fish compliments for Nadal?

oliverbwfc
05-09-2009, 01:29 PM
Coria

vamosinator
05-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Do you only start threads to fish compliments for Nadal?

No I'm asking who else has a high win/loss record in matches where they win the 1st set :mad:

rafa_maniac
05-09-2009, 01:37 PM
No I'm asking who else has a high win/loss record in matches where they win the 1st set :mad:

Federer does.

vamosinator
05-09-2009, 01:38 PM
What is Federer's record?

its.like.that
05-09-2009, 01:39 PM
please everyone badrep this threadstarter.

rafa_maniac
05-09-2009, 01:44 PM
What is Federer's record?

I'm not exactly sure. They quoted it at the Australian Open final, pointing out how important the first set was to both players because they both had incredible records of going on to win the match. Turns out they were right. The only GS loss Federer has suffered in the last 4 years after winning the first set was Roland Garros final 2006.

MacTheKnife
05-09-2009, 01:45 PM
Sampras lost 3 GS matches after leading by a set. Didn't do the percentage, but that's got to be pretty damn good.

MacTheKnife
05-09-2009, 01:56 PM
What is Federer's record?

Federer has lost 2 GS matches after winning the fist set. So that "may" well mean he and Sampras are the two best front runners in GS history at this point in time. Of course a lot of research would need to be done to support that statement and I'm not willing to do it. There must be an easier way that just looking up each guy which is what I did. Where is Voo when you need him..

Burrow
05-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Do you only start threads to fish compliments for Nadal?

Well that is kind of obvious.

rafa_maniac
05-09-2009, 02:01 PM
Federer has lost 2 GS matches after winning the fist set.

Actually, I've found 4. Against Rafter at RG 99, against Nalbandian at US Open 03, against Safin at Oz Open 05 and against Nadal at RG 06. He's played a good deal more GS matches than Nadal, but Nadal's percentage would still be higher.

Burrow
05-09-2009, 02:08 PM
Federer has lost 2 GS matches after winning the fist set. So that "may" well mean he and Sampras are the two best front runners in GS history at this point in time. Of course a lot of research would need to be done to support that statement and I'm not willing to do it. There must be an easier way that just looking up each guy which is what I did. Where is Voo when you need him..

Federer has lost four after winning the first set.

Rafter, Nalbandian, Safin and Nadal.

Plus I don't think this is the best way to measure "best front runner" just because you win the first set.

vamosinator
05-09-2009, 02:11 PM
Whether you win the first set is irrelevant, the issue is whether you win the match after winning the first set. Cos if you don't win the match then it shows you let the other guy back in the match, and thats a big flaw to have for a top player.

Burrow
05-09-2009, 02:23 PM
What are you talking about? Idiot. I'm not disputing that, but what about being 2 sets to 1 up, or even 2-0 up, none of this is mentioned.

vamosinator
05-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Then mention it, the title is referring to front-runners, so all evidence is accepted.

MacTheKnife
05-09-2009, 02:55 PM
Federer has lost four after winning the first set.

Rafter, Nalbandian, Safin and Nadal.

Plus I don't think this is the best way to measure "best front runner" just because you win the first set.

I agree with that and must have missed 2 going through there. There has to be an easier way to figure that out. I would bet there are a lot of players with a very good percentage going on to win a match after winning the first set.

federernadalfan
05-09-2009, 02:59 PM
marko djokovic for sure

ORGASMATRON
05-09-2009, 03:00 PM
I agree with that and must have missed 2 going through there. There has to be an easier way to figure that out. I would bet there are a lot of players with a very good percentage going on to win a match after winning the first set.

Mac you were a pretty good front yourself no? At least thats what Brad says :)

MacTheKnife
05-09-2009, 03:00 PM
Mac you were a pretty good front yourself no? At least thats what Brad says :)

Good point, I need to look up my own record, just to lazy to do it !!!

ORGASMATRON
05-09-2009, 03:00 PM
Safin.

ORGASMATRON
05-09-2009, 03:01 PM
Good point, I need to look up my own record, just to lazy to do it !!!

:lol:

kingfederer
05-09-2009, 03:32 PM
nadal is 76-1 win-loss after winning 1set set, best in history.

Sapeod
05-09-2009, 03:47 PM
IN GRAND SLAMS (Win/Loss after winning the first set.

Sampras - 188 to 4 Ratio (i think) is 47:1
Federer - 151 to 4 Ratio (i think) is 38:1
Nadal - 76-1 Ratio (i think) is 76:1

Nadal has the better record

Sampras and Federer both have better amount of wins, but Nadal is only 22 and will probably beat them in that department too.

ORGASMATRON
05-09-2009, 03:55 PM
Dont lie kf and Sapeod, its Safin.

HeretiC
05-09-2009, 04:04 PM
Front runner is also when a player leads in the current set (having a break up).

MacTheKnife
05-09-2009, 04:10 PM
Safin may well be the greatest front runner in history, right up until he loses.

Forehander
05-09-2009, 05:11 PM
I am.

Sapeod
05-09-2009, 07:06 PM
I corrected the ratios :o Safin might be? :shrug:

rhinooooo
05-09-2009, 07:09 PM
Melzer

:worship:

Roddickominator
05-09-2009, 07:10 PM
Front runner is also when a player leads in the current set (having a break up).

This.

If you're an opposing player....I would say you would least want SAMPRAS to get a break up on you, because you know you aren't coming back in that set.

kingfederer
05-09-2009, 07:35 PM
sampras was a dull moron that killed tennis, his name should be erased from the sport.

ORGASMATRON
05-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Safin may well be the greatest front runner in history, right up until he loses.

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha: If i had place in my sig i would definitely put this post there. Awesome.

sampras was a dull moron that killed tennis, his name should be erased from the sport.

Thought Oz was asleep. You must be taking the piss cos Sampy and Rafa is one and the same thing at opposite ends of the spectrum. Good comic relief as always!

On to other things. Go to the haircut thread and make some comments on Murrays hair, i feel like laughing some more.

Roddickominator
05-09-2009, 07:44 PM
sampras was a dull moron that killed tennis, his name should be erased from the sport.

Nice job commenting on the actual subject at hand....and making yourself look like an absolute moron in the process. Go back to trolling the WTA forums....maybe there they are dumb enough to fall for your act.

Sapeod
05-09-2009, 07:44 PM
sampras was a dull moron that killed tennis, his name should be erased from the sport.
You haven't been partying with Lopez, have you? Or are you always this retarded?

Waterfox
05-10-2009, 12:20 AM
Djokovic for sure

azza
05-10-2009, 05:00 AM
Adam Chadaj

brent-o
05-10-2009, 06:48 AM
Don't know about statistics, but for me it had to be Fed. With Fed a set up during his peak years, there was almost no hope for his opponent.