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Losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to one player.

salut235
05-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Federer losing 4 times in a row to Nadal at the French Open:

Isn't losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to the same player enough to discredit someone from being called the greatest of all-time? Personally I think YES. Even though Nadal is arguably one of the best clay court player ever, I'd say that if you are the "greatest player of all-time" you should be able to at least stand up for yourself and beat that person once! The surface thing is NOT an excuse! Personally if someone beats me 4 times in a row in the same grandslam, I would never call my self the greatest of all-time. If I was "the greatest", I would have made a statement to that other player and managed to find a way to beat him.

2008 Final - Federer lost 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
2007 Final - Federer lost 3-6, 6-4, 3-6, 4-6
2006 Final - Federer lost 6-1, 1-6, 4-6, 6-7
2005 Semif - Federer lost 3-6, 6-4, 4-6, 3-6

In comparasion, things could have ended up the same way at Wimbledon, it was Federer's best surface and he's arguably one of the greatest players on grass, yet Nadal FOUND A WAY to beat him after losing 2 times in a row (the 2nd time because Nadal was injured). Nadal found a way to improve his grass court game to compete with the absolute best on that surface. If he had lost 4 times in a row at Wimbledon to Roger, it would be hard to call him "the greatest" but he managed to stop it and WIN and make it a pretty even interesting battle for years to come in that grandslam.

But Federer losing 4 times in a row mostly in finals to me means that he can't be the greatest. It's a VERY big deal that he can't compete with someone and FIND A WAY to beat him. Nadal did find a way to beat Roger in his own KINGDOM so surface is irrelevant! The greatest of all-time SHOULD FIND A WAY.

Btw, this isn't a "repetitive thread", it's a FAIR QUESTION and it would be nice to hear real opinions...

Ilovetheblues_86
05-08-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39841.6945614815&blobType=portait

GlennMirnyi
05-08-2009, 01:12 AM
:zzz:

Joao
05-08-2009, 01:19 AM
I think we got it that you're a huge Nadal fan and you will never think Federer is the GOAT in your book, no matter what people say.

Now please stop opening thread after thread with the same boring statements ... they may come in different flavours but really you're ranting the same thing over and over.

its.like.that
05-08-2009, 01:20 AM
:retard:

luie
05-08-2009, 01:23 AM
Federer losing 4 times in a row to Nadal at the French Open:

Isn't losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to the same player enough to discredit someone from being called the greatest of all-time? Personally I think YES. Even though Nadal is arguably one of the best clay court player ever, I'd say that if you are the "greatest player of all-time" you should be able to at least stand up for yourself and beat that person once! The surface thing is NOT an excuse! Personally if someone beats me 4 times in a row in the same grandslam, I would never call my self the greatest of all-time. If I was "the greatest", I would have made a statement to that other player and managed to find a way to beat him.

2008 Final - Federer lost 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
2007 Final - Federer lost 3-6, 6-4, 3-6, 4-6
2006 Final - Federer lost 6-1, 1-6, 4-6, 6-7
2005 Semif - Federer lost 3-6, 6-4, 4-6, 3-6

In comparasion, things could have ended up the same way at Wimbledon, it was Federer's best surface and he's arguably one of the greatest players on grass, yet Nadal FOUND A WAY to beat him after losing 2 times in a row (the 2nd time because Nadal was injured). Nadal found a way to improve his grass court game to compete with the absolute best on that surface. If he had lost 4 times in a row at Wimbledon to Roger, it would be hard to call him "the greatest" but he managed to stop it and WIN and make it a pretty even interesting battle for years to come in that grandslam.

But Federer losing 4 times in a row mostly in finals to me means that he can't be the greatest. It's a VERY big deal that he can't compete with someone and FIND A WAY to beat him. Nadal did find a way to beat Roger in his own KINGDOM so surface is irrelevant! The greatest of all-time SHOULD FIND A WAY.

Btw, this isn't a "repetitive thread", it's a FAIR QUESTION and it would be nice to hear real opinions...
Are you by chance related to Rafa=Fed Killer.:o

cmurray
05-08-2009, 01:36 AM
:zzz:

I can't believe I'm going to say this but...I agree

I fail to see how the fact that Nadal is a better clay court player than Federer undermines the rest of the man's QUITE considerable achievements. Have you ever looked at his ATP page for 2006 playing activity? I think he lost...what? 5 matches that year? That impresses the bloody hell out of me, no matter whether Nadal beat him at RG. Let the man be.

kingfederer
05-08-2009, 01:41 AM
I can't believe I'm going to say this but...I agree

I fail to see how the fact that Nadal is a better clay court player than Federer undermines the rest of the man's QUITE considerable achievements. Have you ever looked at his ATP page for 2006 playing activity? I think he lost...what? 5 matches that year? That impresses the bloody hell out of me, no matter whether Nadal beat him at RG. Let the man be.

is ur name cheryll murray?

kingfederer
05-08-2009, 01:44 AM
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39841.6945614815&blobType=portait

thats the look on laver's face when rafa was shredding fedexpress to utter bits. after that aussie open final federer was in bits. he was a bloody mess, rafa reduced fed to dust.

ys
05-08-2009, 01:52 AM
It's not as bad, as Rafa was vastly superior to Federer in each of those matches. Kafelnikov could be a bit unhappier about bumping into Guga each time he reached QF of RG three times in a row, and losing all three of them, and being a better player and in winning position in every single one of them on top of that.. :)

cmurray
05-08-2009, 01:53 AM
is ur name cheryll murray?

why do you want to know? :D

yes, btw.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-08-2009, 01:53 AM
thats the look on laver's face when rafa was shredding fedexpress to utter bits. after that aussie open final federer was in bits. he was a bloody mess, rafa reduced fed to dust.

He is really happy then.;)

Jōris
05-08-2009, 02:39 AM
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39841.6945614815&blobType=portait

Those monstrous nostrils enabled Laver to suck the oxygen out of opponents, which incidentally is how the sports term 'choking' came about.

Hold on tight, he's inhaling!

fast_clay
05-08-2009, 03:04 AM
Those monstrous nostrils enabled Laver to suck the oxygen out of opponents, which incidentally is how the sports term 'choking' came about.

Hold on tight, he's inhaling!

George Lucas later patented Laver's signature move, soon demonstrated by the late Darth Vader when employing the jedi 'choke hold' on some poor p!ss ant minion on the Death Star...

good man that Rodney...

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 03:27 AM
I don't think anyone of any note is calling Federer the GOAT, its only his fans and some obsessed journalists. The actual former greats of the game are retracting their praise of Federer now that he's not the best of his era even.

kingfederer
05-08-2009, 04:35 AM
why do you want to know? :D

yes, btw.

do u have ur own blog/ column in some other site? if so what?

fast_clay
05-08-2009, 04:46 AM
do u have ur own blog/ column in some other site? if so what?

mate... listen... i'm not sure she would be forthcoming with such information due to the ensuing visual pollution it may cause upon her site thereafter...

guptaji
05-08-2009, 04:59 AM
OP, you're an embarrassment to Nadal and to his normal grown-up fans. Here's a quick way to measure your general level of sanity and maturity. When GlennMirnyi says something and it's less stupid than what you have to say... then you're an embarrassment.

Please stop already with these threads. You're probably 13 years old and it's great that you're addicted to Nadal and not something harmful like drugs. However this is not a forum for 13-years old. Check with your mom/dad before you randomly signing up at online forums.

MrChopin
05-08-2009, 05:04 AM
thats the look on laver's face when rafa was shredding fedexpress to utter bits. after that aussie open final federer was in bits. he was a bloody mess, rafa reduced fed to dust.

A 5th set shredding... must be the first one of those (well, second after Wimbledon '08). Laver's look... the look of disbelief at what tennis has become. If you were to give a wooden racket to Laver and Nadal, I'll bet Laver would still win. That's why Laver can't even look down at the court.

I don't think anyone of any note is calling Federer the GOAT, its only his fans and some obsessed journalists. The actual former greats of the game are retracting their praise of Federer now that he's not the best of his era even.

Indeed. And what will happen to the Nadal battleship when the knees go "pop! pop! pop!"? (Wo)Men overboard!

salut235
05-08-2009, 05:26 AM
A 5th set shredding... must be the first one of those (well, second after Wimbledon '08). Laver's look... the look of disbelief at what tennis has become. If you were to give a wooden racket to Laver and Nadal, I'll bet Laver would still win. That's why Laver can't even look down at the court.



Indeed. And what will happen to the Nadal battleship when the knees go "pop! pop! pop!"? (Wo)Men overboard!


Well, if Nadal had the body of Federer his knees will go pop pop pop... But Nadal is an incredible athelete with an incredible body that adapts to his style of play, so to him what he is doing comes naturally... If someone else tries to do what he does they would have gotten major problems by now because they would be exceeding their limits, but what Nadal is doing is natural his body is MADE for this! So nice try. And it's very sad that you want Nadal to get injured and not reach his full career potential, are you afraid that he might surpass other champions so you want him to get injured? Sad.

FedFan_2007
05-08-2009, 05:39 AM
Well, if Nadal had the body of Federer his knees will go pop pop pop... But Nadal is an incredible athelete with an incredible body that adapts to his style of play, so to him what he is doing comes naturally... If someone else tries to do what he does they would have gotten major problems by now because they would be exceeding their limits, but what Nadal is doing is natural his body is MADE for this! So nice try. And it's very sad that you want Nadal to get injured and not reach his full career potential, are you afraid that he might surpass other champions so you want him to get injured? Sad.

What the hell are you blathering about? Federer has never had knee problems and he's already 27 and 9 months.

FedFan_2007
05-08-2009, 05:41 AM
I don't think anyone of any note is calling Federer the GOAT, its only his fans and some obsessed journalists. The actual former greats of the game are retracting their praise of Federer now that he's not the best of his era even.

Name one former great who has retracted their praise of Federer. Put up or shut up. If you can't play a MAN's game, get out.

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 05:54 AM
Jim Courier and John Alexander during the Australian Open Final, and I don't remember the exact words but they were saying that 'maybe we overlooked Nadal when we started talking about Federer being perhaps the greatest of all-time, because it could be Nadal who completes the career grand slam first'. This is a common phrase I've heard in other matches over the last year too, its the common thought now.

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 05:58 AM
What the hell are you blathering about? Federer has never had knee problems and he's already 27 and 9 months.

Federer has an even more serious injury than knee tendinitis (and btw tendinitis isn't career threatening, venus and serena have had it all their careers and here they are outlasting everyone, same as michael jordan he had it in knees from age 28-40 and also wrists occasionally), Federer has a back injury which is often the cause of retirement for tennis players.

FedFan_2007
05-08-2009, 06:00 AM
Federer has an even more serious injury than knee tendinitis (and btw tendinitis isn't career threatening, venus and serena have had it all their careers and here they are outlasting everyone, same as michael jordan he had it in knees from age 28-40 and also wrists occasionally), Federer has a back injury which is often the cause of retirement for tennis players.

Oh aren't you hoping, as you know Federer is the single biggest obstacle for Rafa completing the career slam @US Open.

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 06:01 AM
Oh aren't you hoping, as you know Federer is the single biggest obstacle for Rafa completing the career slam @US Open.

It is in Nadal's best interest that Federer plays for another 10 years so Nadal can increase the head2head to 30-6. Only reason why I bring up Federer's injury is because certain other people talk as though Nadal is in danger of early retirement, when in fact Murray, Djokovic, Federer have all had hip/back injuries this year and those are the injuries that shorten careers, not tendinitis.

Dougie
05-08-2009, 06:03 AM
Well, if Nadal had the body of Federer his knees will go pop pop pop... But Nadal is an incredible athelete with an incredible body that adapts to his style of play, so to him what he is doing comes naturally... If someone else tries to do what he does they would have gotten major problems by now because they would be exceeding their limits, but what Nadal is doing is natural his body is MADE for this! So nice try. And it's very sad that you want Nadal to get injured and not reach his full career potential, are you afraid that he might surpass other champions so you want him to get injured? Sad.

Nadal is such a young guy that it´s impossible to say whether his body will last without injuries or not. His game is really tough on the body and he also plays too much, in my opininon. Personally I´m not hoping he gets injured, but I doubt he will make it to 30 without some knee or shoulder problems.
Actually now that I think of it, maybe he´s playing ridicilously many tournaments now because he knows himself he won´t be able to play for as many years as, for example, Federer. Probably not, but just a thought.

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 06:05 AM
A lot of 'thoughts' going on, but they're all in hope of Nadal disappearing, clearly. Murray, Djokovic, Federer will all retire younger, they are fragile.

chammer44
05-08-2009, 06:13 AM
Nobody really gives a shit about clay.

Hope this helps.

FedFan_2007
05-08-2009, 06:35 AM
A lot of 'thoughts' going on, but they're all in hope of Nadal disappearing, clearly. Murray, Djokovic, Federer will all retire younger, they are fragile.

Bullshit. When's the last time Fed/Djoker/Murray missed a tournament due to injury?

Dougie
05-08-2009, 06:36 AM
A lot of 'thoughts' going on, but they're all in hope of Nadal disappearing, clearly. Murray, Djokovic, Federer will all retire younger, they are fragile.

If you would actually read my post, you´d see I distinctively said I´m NOT hoping for Rafa to get injured or "disappear". If you´d take your head out of Nadal´s a**, you´d maybe able to read whole posts.

And what exactly makes you think that Federer, Djokovic and Murray would retire younger than Nadal? Nadal is already having problems with his knees, and if you understand anything about tennis, take a look at Nadals´forehand follow-through. Then compare it to Federer, Djokovic and Murray. And then tell me which one of the four is the most likely to have problems with his shoulder.

FedFan_2007
05-08-2009, 06:40 AM
Nobody really gives a shit about clay.

Hope this helps.

BS, clay is the battlefield of the gods and I hope Roger can win it.

FairWeatherFan
05-08-2009, 06:55 AM
How is losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to one player (Federer), where that one player is the best player in his generation on that surface, different to losing multiple times in that grand slam to different players (Sampras), when none of those players were ever the best players in their generation on that surface?

salut235
05-08-2009, 07:06 AM
How is losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to one player (Federer), where that one player is the best player in his generation on that surface, different to losing multiple times in that grand slam to different players (Sampras), when none of those players were ever the best players in their generation on that surface?

It's a pride thing. I'm sure Sampras if he was faced with the same opponent he would have FOUND A WAY to eventually beat that person. Nadal faced Federer at Wimbledon who is definitely the best grass court of his generation but Nadal found a way to win. He was not going to be Federer's bitch in Wimbledon. But Federer is Nadal's bitch at the French Open, and sorry the greatest of all-time WOULD HAVE FOUND A WAY!!! That doesn't mean that Federer isn't a great clay court player or even better than Sampras on clay, it means that he can't COMPETE with someone better than him on a surface, but that person can compete with him on any surface! Sorry, losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to the same player means you are NOT the greatest. The greatest would have found a way to tell that other player "Look I'm not going to be your bitch 4 years in a row I'm the greatest I'll do something about it", just like Nadal did when he beat Federer on grass at Wimbledon. But Federer can't!!!

Erica86
05-08-2009, 07:19 AM
Nobody really gives a shit about clay.

Hope this helps.

Speak for yourself. If you don't like clay, come to this forum whenever the clay season is over.
Hope this helps.

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 07:21 AM
If you would actually read my post, you´d see I distinctively said I´m NOT hoping for Rafa to get injured or "disappear". If you´d take your head out of Nadal´s a**, you´d maybe able to read whole posts.

And what exactly makes you think that Federer, Djokovic and Murray would retire younger than Nadal? Nadal is already having problems with his knees, and if you understand anything about tennis, take a look at Nadals´forehand follow-through. Then compare it to Federer, Djokovic and Murray. And then tell me which one of the four is the most likely to have problems with his shoulder.

From the way you write you sound like you don't like Nadal, and you clearly want him to suffer injury because you aren't logical in your belief that tendinitis is career threatening. Venus and Serena have had it all their careers, and it may even have extended their careers by forcing them to play lighter schedules.

As for the forehand, yes if Federer tried Nadal's technique then Federer wouldn't last long because he isn't a great athlete, same with Murray and Djokovic, they aren't great 'athletes' compared to Nadal and would never be able to play his style.

Nadal is a Jordan-type athlete, and as I've said Jordan had knee tendinitis for around 12 years (and some wrist tendinitis), and like the Williams sisters he played with it and had rest when he needed to. See its more of a 'condition' than an injury, it doesn't lead to early retirement.

Whereas hip and back complaints in your 20s is a sign that by 30 you won't be doing much.

Action Jackson
05-08-2009, 07:24 AM
A new darkorse for the ACC.

Dougie
05-08-2009, 07:42 AM
From the way you write you sound like you don't like Nadal, and you clearly want him to suffer injury because you aren't logical in your belief that tendinitis is career threatening. Venus and Serena have had it all their careers, and it may even have extended their careers by forcing them to play lighter schedules.

As for the forehand, yes if Federer tried Nadal's technique then Federer wouldn't last long because he isn't a great athlete, same with Murray and Djokovic, they aren't great 'athletes' compared to Nadal and would never be able to play his style.

Nadal is a Jordan-type athlete, and as I've said Jordan had knee tendinitis for around 12 years (and some wrist tendinitis), and like the Williams sisters he played with it and had rest when he needed to. See its more of a 'condition' than an injury, it doesn't lead to early retirement.

Whereas hip and back complaints in your 20s is a sign that by 30 you won't be doing much.

First of all, I´m not a huge fan of Nadal, but I actually like him more and more. I believe he´s honestly a nice and humble guy and deserves to be no 1. And I´m not the kind of guy that wishes any physical injuries to people I don´t like, let alone people I´ve never even met.

Fanboys like you will never understand that for some of us it really doesn´t matter that much whether Nadal, Federer or Murray wins the next GS. Some of actually like the game itself so much, that as long we see high quality tennis and interesting match ups, we´re quite happy. You may think it´s boring, but at least I won´t have to place a rope around my neck when my favorite player loses.

As for your Nadal-Michael Jordan-Williams-sisters comparisons...I won´t even bother. But it takes balls to say Federer isn´t a "great athlete", I´ll give you that!

vamosinator
05-08-2009, 07:59 AM
^^ I don't think you could get more opposite physically than Nadal v Federer.

I was an Agassi fan since the 80s, and the part of his career I enjoyed the most was 1997-1999 when he was ranked 140 and came back to the top, so I have no problem with poor results, I'm used to it.

Jōris
05-08-2009, 09:52 AM
George Lucas later patented Laver's signature move, soon demonstrated by the late Darth Vader when employing the jedi 'choke hold' on some poor p!ss ant minion on the Death Star...

good man that Rodney...

What scene was that?

Indeed. And what will happen to the Nadal battleship when the knees go "pop! pop! pop!"? (Wo)Men overboard!

You've probably been told this before, but really, you're a sad little fedtard.

fast_clay
05-08-2009, 01:06 PM
What scene was that?

listen closely to Vader... he doesn't f*** around... very similar to Laver's breathing techiques...

3MaJy7LH5js

You've probably been told this before, but really, you're a sad little fedtard.

i think this is where i say affirmative...

finishingmove
05-08-2009, 01:09 PM
What scene was that?

i find your lack of faith... disturbing.

Har-Tru
05-08-2009, 01:09 PM
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39841.6945614815&blobType=portait

:worship:

Jōris
05-08-2009, 01:13 PM
listen closely to Vader... he doesn't f*** around... very similar to Laver's breathing techiques...

3MaJy7LH5js

Ah I see what you mean. "I find your lack of faith disturbing" was one of the key lines too, bad form to forget that scene.


i think this is where i say affirmative...

Even the noletrolls don't wish injury upon anyone (I hope).

Jōris
05-08-2009, 01:17 PM
i find your lack of faith... disturbing.

There's no need to rub it in, bully. Because you see, if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

finishingmove
05-08-2009, 01:23 PM
There's no need to rub it in, bully. Because you see, if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

played this well, you have...

Jōris
05-08-2009, 01:31 PM
played this well, you have...

Even though quoting Star Wars makes us super cool, we need to stop it. Boring conversation, anyway.

kafemotor
05-08-2009, 01:31 PM
It's a pride thing. I'm sure Sampras if he was faced with the same opponent he would have FOUND A WAY to eventually beat that person. Nadal faced Federer at Wimbledon who is definitely the best grass court of his generation but Nadal found a way to win. He was not going to be Federer's bitch in Wimbledon. But Federer is Nadal's bitch at the French Open, and sorry the greatest of all-time WOULD HAVE FOUND A WAY!!! That doesn't mean that Federer isn't a great clay court player or even better than Sampras on clay, it means that he can't COMPETE with someone better than him on a surface, but that person can compete with him on any surface! Sorry, losing 4 times in a row in the same grandslam to the same player means you are NOT the greatest. The greatest would have found a way to tell that other player "Look I'm not going to be your bitch 4 years in a row I'm the greatest I'll do something about it", just like Nadal did when he beat Federer on grass at Wimbledon. But Federer can't!!!

Man, this guy has a point. Why don't just leave him do whatever he wants. Beside, this is already old story, isn't it???

finishingmove
05-08-2009, 01:34 PM
Even though quoting Star Wars makes us super cool, we need to stop it. Boring conversation, anyway.

agreed.

see you in the next stupid thread.

Jōris
05-08-2009, 01:38 PM
agreed.

see you in the next stupid thread.

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finishingmove
05-08-2009, 01:42 PM
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Jōris
05-08-2009, 01:46 PM
GwExDG7n7Zg

:lol:

fast_clay
05-08-2009, 02:42 PM
Even the noletrolls don't wish injury upon anyone (I hope).

it is interesting to note that the notion of the typical nadulltard no longer applies as it once did... fractured has the ideal nadull fangirl become... fractured into two distinct factions... on one side you have what you always had, the nadulltard, drawing happiness from the poor form of its closest rival, yet, also found is the possibility of conversation on some crude level... but recently, this new genetically enhanced nadulltard has appeared... their trolling resolve is super strength... reason is not in their vocabulary... hard to put a finger on it, yet on first inspection they would seem to fit the catergory 'Extreme Fundamentalist Rafatard', a group of souls the first wave of Nadulltards wish to have no formal online relations with...

compelling...

that is all for now...

thread status: FUKT

Sapeod
05-08-2009, 05:25 PM
You are a Rafatard? I guess that's why you made this shit thread. Epic fail. Who gives a fuck? :shrug:

salut235
05-17-2009, 09:38 PM
Well, now that Federer has been able to beat Nadal for a 2nd time on clay, this thread becomes even more relevant. Is there really an excuse for Federer to lose 4 times in a row at the French Open against Nadal? Can he ever be called the greatest despite it? This is a grandslam and Federer can't find an answer against Nadal, yet Nadal found an answer at Wimbledon against Federer. To me, the fact that Federer can't beat Nadal for FOUR TIMES in a row at the same grandslam means that he's not good enough to be called the greatest. The greatest would have found a way and sent a message to his opponent "I'm the greatest I'm not going to be your bitch at this grandslam I'll beat you", but Federer hasn't been able to do it, Nadal did it at Wimbledon so the surfaces are irrelevant. Losing 4 times in a row at the same grandslam to the same player is pretty embarrassing in my opinion!

FedFan_2007
05-17-2009, 09:42 PM
Well, now that Federer has been able to beat Nadal for a 2nd time on clay, this thread becomes even more relevant. Is there really an excuse for Federer to lose 4 times in a row at the French Open against Nadal? Can he ever be called the greatest despite it? This is a grandslam and Federer can't find an answer against Nadal, yet Nadal found an answer at Wimbledon against Federer. To me, the fact that Federer can't beat Nadal for FOUR TIMES in a row at the same grandslam means that he's not good enough to be called the greatest. The greatest would have found a way and sent a message to his opponent "I'm the greatest I'm not going to be your bitch at this grandslam I'll beat you", but Federer hasn't been able to do it, Nadal did it at Wimbledon so the surfaces are irrelevant. Losing 4 times in a row at the same grandslam to the same player is pretty embarrassing in my opinion!

:retard: Nadal is the clay GOAT, no shame in losing 2005-2008.

Lleyton_
05-17-2009, 09:43 PM
Then what do you say about Sampras who never made the final? Is he somehow better because he lost to different players? :spit:

FedFan_2007
05-17-2009, 09:47 PM
Even if Roger never wins the French, people will remember those epic battles he had with Nadal 2005-2007. 2008 was a washout.

salut235
05-17-2009, 09:49 PM
Then what do you say about Sampras who never made the final? Is he somehow better because he lost to different players? :spit:

He's definitely not better on clay than Federer because Roger has the better record. But I'm 100% sure that Sampras would never accept losing to the same player 4 years in a row in a grandslam, he would have found a way just like Nadal did at Wimbledon against Federer. It's a pride thing, someone who wants to be called the greatest would never allow being a bitch like that. It's a mental thing because as we can see Federer is able to beat Nadal on clay, but when it matters he can't step it up.

Fedex
05-17-2009, 09:57 PM
Good to see that this board isn't deprived of it's village idiots.

Fedex
05-17-2009, 09:58 PM
He's definitely not better on clay than Federer because Roger has the better record. But I'm 100% sure that Sampras would never accept losing to the same player 4 years in a row in a grandslam, he would have found a way just like Nadal did at Wimbledon against Federer. It's a pride thing, someone who wants to be called the greatest would never allow being a bitch like that. It's a mental thing because as we can see Federer is able to beat Nadal on clay, but when it matters he can't step it up.

Sampras would have never taken a set from Nadal at RG, let alone win.

marcRD
05-17-2009, 10:10 PM
He's definitely not better on clay than Federer because Roger has the better record. But I'm 100% sure that Sampras would never accept losing to the same player 4 years in a row in a grandslam, he would have found a way just like Nadal did at Wimbledon against Federer. It's a pride thing, someone who wants to be called the greatest would never allow being a bitch like that. It's a mental thing because as we can see Federer is able to beat Nadal on clay, but when it matters he can't step it up.

That is the silliest thing I have ever heard. Sampras would defeat Nadal in RG, tell another one. :lol:

Joao
05-17-2009, 11:45 PM
Good to see that this board isn't deprived of it's village idiots.

:lol: