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Who has today´s best backhand?

aferlo
05-06-2009, 07:04 AM
Considering all aspects (variety, accuracy, strength, aesthetic, etc)

For me:

Double handed: Nalbandian, Murray and Djokovic
Single handed: Wawrinka

orangehat
05-06-2009, 07:06 AM
wawa's accuracy is decent at best ... though i won't say it isn't a good BH :p

Certinfy
05-06-2009, 07:07 AM
Nadal, Murray, Nalbandian, Wawrinka, Djokovic, Gasquet, Kohlscrieber*

pkubik
05-06-2009, 07:08 AM
massu

Montego
05-06-2009, 07:14 AM
LaLo and Gonzo

Josh.
05-06-2009, 07:17 AM
Agreed with the OP. I would add Kohlscrieber (as already mentioned), Safin and Gasgay.

Machiavelli
05-06-2009, 07:17 AM
Petzschner

Quadruple Tree
05-06-2009, 07:19 AM
Gonzalez or Federer

Matchu
05-06-2009, 07:20 AM
The most punishing backhand I've seen was Bernard Tomic at the Australian Open. He generates so much power from the flat backhand when he goes for the winner that I don't think even Nadal would get to it, thats not a joke he hits the backhand so well. The fact that he's 16 means that when he gets older and more powerful his backhand is going to be unstopable.

Josh.
05-06-2009, 07:21 AM
Gonzalez or Federer

You and anyone esle who states Gonzalez in this thread HAS to be joking.

vamosinator
05-06-2009, 07:25 AM
Federer's backhand is junk, no topspin, no power, nothin just a junkball.

groundstroke
05-06-2009, 09:03 AM
Hah... you've got to be joking if you think Wawrinka has the best single handed backhand..

Double handed: Nalbandian, Murray and Djokovic
Single handed: Federer, Gasquet

Federer's BH is extremely underrated, wouldn't trust anyone who calls it a "junkshot" - they're just trolling.

vamosinator
05-06-2009, 09:11 AM
^^ watch the Australian Open Final and tell me Federer's backhand wasn't junk, he just randomly lobbed it, had no chance of penetrating, it made for boring tennis.

Roddickominator
05-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Federer's backhand is excellent when he's playing confidently. Which isn't so often anymore. And Gasquet's single-hander is obviously up there as well.

Nalbandian has the sweetest double-handed backhand in tennis. Too bad he's such an overbloated toad. Djokovic also has a nice one....IMO better than Murray's with the exception of slicing.

RIboy
05-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Karlovic

Bazooka
05-06-2009, 09:33 AM
No doubt, Djokovic. I can't believe there is no consensus on this.

Other players may have it as good or even better, like Nalby, but not consistently. Faker can hit it on the run, stretching, and still make an awesome attack.

dusan1610
05-06-2009, 09:33 AM
Djokovic, Tipsarevic, Troicki....FOR ME!

duong
05-06-2009, 09:38 AM
Murray (especially better for slice than Djokovic)

Josh.
05-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Murray (especially better for slice than Djokovic)

Agreed, Murry seems to be able to do so much more with his BH.

Bazooka
05-06-2009, 10:25 AM
I agree that Murray's slice on BH is very good and should do some damage on grass.

martine2
05-06-2009, 10:32 AM
Gaudio, Wawrinka, Calleri

Sapeod
05-06-2009, 10:37 AM
Murray definately. Gasquet and Kohlschreiber as well? :scratch:

Commander Data
05-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Gonzalez or Federer


So Gonzo hast the best BH and maybe the best FH, yet he is not top 10:confused:

Does he serve backwards or what is his problem then?

fast_clay
05-06-2009, 11:14 AM
i like the way djokovic traps the ball on his backhand wing before the ball can do damage to him... but, about the same i like murray's down the line ambush...

gaudio's back in some capacity so i guess we can start going apesh!t about it again...

duong
05-06-2009, 11:42 AM
So Gonzo hast the best BH and maybe the best FH, yet he is not top 10:confused:

Does he serve backwards or what is his problem then?

of course it was supposed to be a joke :rolleyes:

tennishero
05-06-2009, 12:00 PM
i don't see how murray's backhand is the best.. he hits flat and usually with not much pace.


Double Handed: Nalbandian, Djokovic
Single Handed: Gasquet

Commander Data
05-06-2009, 12:08 PM
of course it was supposed to be a joke :rolleyes:

How would you know it was a joke?

Gretchen.
05-06-2009, 12:22 PM
Double Handed: Nalbandian
Single Handed: Gasquet

Guga_fan
05-06-2009, 12:22 PM
Here is my list:
1- Nalbandian
2- Gasquet
3- Murray
4- Djokovic

I think Djokovic's topspin and flat are slightly better than Murray's, but Murray's slice is very good, and Djokovic's is poor.

Clay Death
05-06-2009, 01:34 PM
most destructive backhands in the game:

1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Clay Warrior

its not sufficient that you have a great backhand. you must be able to win with it. it has to hold up under pressure. and it must have finishing power which means you must be able to end the point with it.

these 3 backhands do that.

next.

Action Jackson
05-06-2009, 01:34 PM
Fresh subject matter.

prima donna
05-06-2009, 01:37 PM
Fernando Gonzalez

Julio
05-06-2009, 01:38 PM
Federer ! :lol:

Action Jackson
05-06-2009, 01:41 PM
Federer, Gonzalez, Karlovic and Vicente.

Johnny Groove
05-06-2009, 01:42 PM
MTF has more sarcasm than real answers these days.

As for the topic, Djokovic.

keroni
05-06-2009, 01:52 PM
Gonzo's backhand is so amateur, I really don't understand why he doesn't do something about it. It's been the same way since forever. Occasionally he gets a good shot in and he surprises himself, you can see it in his face.

Anyway, as for the actual thread,Safin or Nalbandian still has the best.

Clay Death
05-06-2009, 01:59 PM
MTF has more sarcasm than real answers these days.

As for the topic, Djokovic.

affirmative. i did say that 3 conditions must hold:

1. you must be able to win with it.
2. it must be able to hold up under pressure.
3. it must have finishing power.

translation: a solid, consistent, relatively unattackable, and destructive finishing power is what is needed in a best backhand today. those 3 backhands that i mentioned meet all 3 criteria.

what part of that sentence are they having the most trouble with?

if you cant win with it then what good is it. who gives a damn how pretty Gasquet`s or Gonzo`a backhand is. they are totally useless against the best in the game. how many masters events or any important titles do they both combined have, let alone any slams.

their backhands consistently break down under pressure and that is just for starters.

Guga_fan
05-06-2009, 02:14 PM
affirmative. i did say that 3 conditions must hold:

1. you must be able to win with it.
2. it must be able to hold up under pressure.
3. it must have finishing power.

translation: a solid, consistent, relatively unattackable, and destructive finishing power is what is needed in a best backhand today. those 3 backhands that i mentioned meet all 3 criteria.

what part of that sentence are they having the most trouble with?

if you cant win with it then what good is it. who gives a damn how pretty Gasquet`s or Gonzo`a backhand is. they are totally useless against the best in the game. how many masters events or any important titles do they both combined have, let alone any slams.

their backhands consistently break down under pressure and that is just for starters.

I doubt the people that mentioned Gonzo were really serious. But Gasquet's backhand is not useless against the best, the rest of his game is. His backhand has everything you considered as conditions to be the best backhand, and is miles ahead of Nadal's, whose backhand is good and solid, but not much more.

Clay Death
05-06-2009, 02:25 PM
I doubt the people that mentioned Gonzo were really serious. But Gasquet's backhand is not useless against the best, the rest of his game is. His backhand has everything you considered as conditions to be the best backhand, and is miles ahead of Nadal's, whose backhand is good and solid, but not much more.


negative. speaking of Gasquet, its his backhand that buckles under pressure time and again. rest of his game is relatively solid. for instance, he serves well and is fairly competent at the net. he also moves relatively well. his forehand is good enough.

in tennis, one weakness is all you need and a great player will exploit it to death every single time. for Gasquet, its that backhand.

sorry old sport. his backhand doesnt even register, let alone ever trying to compare it to Nadal`s backhand. he cannot win. that was the first precondition.

now tennis is also mental so he has very little mental toughness. he also lacks the guts or as i like to call it, testicular fortitude.

that said, i can see good players attack his backhand over and over again on consistent basis. invariably it ends up buckling or not coming through under pressure.

Har-Tru
05-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Gasquet's backhand is overrated. It's nice, I agree, but he drops it in the service box 90% of the time.

Guga_fan
05-06-2009, 02:39 PM
negative. speaking of Gasquet, its his backhand that buckles under pressure time and again. rest of his game is relatively solid. for instance, he serves well and is fairly competent at the net. he also moves relatively well. his forehand is good enough.

in tennis, one weakness is all you need and a great player will exploit it to death every single time. for Gasquet, its that backhand.

sorry old sport. his backhand doesnt even register, let alone ever trying to compare it to Nadal`s backhand. he cannot win. that was the first precondition.

now tennis is also mental so he has very little mental toughness. he also lacks the guts or as i like to call it, testicular fortitude.

that said, i can see good players attack his backhand over and over again on consistent basis. invariably it ends up buckling or not coming through under pressure.

His serve is ok at best, his forehand is garbage and his movement is decent. All he has is his backhand and his volleys. You can't say his backhand is his weakness when 95% of his winners come from there. I don't know how often you watch Gasquet playing, but he is the only top player who can count only with his backhand to win matches and still win them.

Clay Death
05-06-2009, 02:43 PM
Gasquet's backhand is overrated. It's nice, I agree, but he drops it in the service box 90% of the time.


affirmative. i have seen too many of his matches where good players just go after his backhand relentlessly. they know it breaks down under the gun.

alfonsojose
05-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Kolya's backhand is sweet :D

Clay Death
05-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Kolya's backhand is sweet :D

yes it is. he is one of the cleanest ball strikers around when he is in form.

christallh24
05-06-2009, 03:07 PM
I loved Rafa's backhand and bh slice during AO. But, that was during AO. Generally, I'd have to give it to Nole.

Pfloyd
05-06-2009, 03:10 PM
Two Handed: Murray

One Handed: Gasquet

safinalium
05-06-2009, 03:17 PM
At this very moment: Djokovic and Murray

At his best, however, Safin's backhand overrules them all.

ImmzB
05-06-2009, 03:20 PM
Gasquet
Nadal
Safin

habibko
05-06-2009, 03:48 PM
best slice backhand: Federer.

the rest doesn't matter :angel:

rafa_maniac
05-06-2009, 03:58 PM
Djokovic. And lol at people picking Safin and Nalbandian. The question wasn't "the most technically sound backhand when working perfectly", but "the best". ie the one that gets the job done the best "today". Nothing in Safin's game does that anymore, and in Nalbandian's very very rarely.

duong
05-06-2009, 03:58 PM
Gonzo's backhand is so amateur, I really don't understand why he doesn't do something about it. It's been the same way since forever. Occasionally he gets a good shot in and he surprises himself, you can see it in his face.

Actually he has improved it a lot comparing to several years ago :lol:

As for Gasquet, yes his backhand is overrated and reaches the serve square quite often.

duong
05-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Djokovic. And lol at people picking Safin and Nalbandian. The question wasn't "the most technically sound backhand when working perfectly", but "the best". ie the one that gets the job done the best. Nothing in Safin's game does that anymore, and in Nalbandian's very very rarely.

Opposite to Gasquet, both Safin and Nalbandian were able to play great backhands in a very consistent way ... when they were in a good period.

the question is about the backhand, not about the rest mental or physical or in the rest of the game.

Apart from that, as far as talent is concerned, there's more talent and potential in Nalbandian's and Safin's backhand than in Djokovic's and Murray's.

miura
05-06-2009, 04:02 PM
Gasquet has been quite solid lately but I'll think I'd go with Djokovic.

rafa_maniac
05-06-2009, 04:04 PM
both Safin and Nalbandian were able to play great backhands in a very consistent way ... when they were in a good period.

Get my drift?

the question is about the backhand, not about the rest mental or physical or in the rest of the game.

So you're saying Safin's BH is still the brilliant shot it was in his prime and he's just being let down unbelieveably by every other aspect of his game? No. It's interconnected, he doesn't use the BH effectively enough anymore, consistently enough because his mind is shot, and he makes tons of errors off of it aswell.

Clay Death
05-06-2009, 04:06 PM
Gasquet has been quite solid lately but I'll think I'd go with Djokovic.

affirmative. the single best backhand today has to belong to Djokovic. he could use a little more variety off that wing but it is coming. he is just 21.

rafa_maniac
05-06-2009, 04:09 PM
Oh right, I forgot about the wonderful mystical properties of "talent" and "potential". :rolls:

Dougie
05-06-2009, 04:10 PM
Actually he has improved it a lot comparing to several years ago :lol:

As for Gasquet, yes his backhand is overrated and reaches the serve square quite often.

I´m sure Gonzo has improved, but his backhand is still pretty horrible. Most of the time he hits soft slices, and when he goes for the drive, it´s hit or miss. Most of his backhand winners are due to the weird angles he gets for being so late with the shot.

As for Gasquet, it is a beautiful shot but sadly not much more.

ad-out
05-06-2009, 04:15 PM
Safin's backhand DTL is still a thing of beauty.

Dougie
05-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Safin's backhand DTL is still a thing of beauty.

For someone who is currently unable to win a match from a set and a double-break up, Safin gets a lot of attention.

duong
05-06-2009, 04:32 PM
Oh right, I forgot about the wonderful mystical properties of "talent" and "potential". :rolls:

that was not my point.

I had not noticed your "anymore", sorry :o

But apart from that, I still think that judging a shot by including the interferences with the rest of the mental, physical and game, is not very interesting.

it's hard to take out the interferences but I think it's more interesting.

rafa_maniac
05-06-2009, 04:36 PM
But apart from that, I still think that judging a shot by including the interferences with the rest of the mental, physical and game, is not very interesting.

it's hard to take out the interferences but I think it's more interesting.

Perhaps, but just isolate his backhand then... Does he outplay opponents with that shot anymore? Does he hit tons of winners compared to errors with that shot? Does it never break down? No. Like the rest of his game, it's just not that great anymore.

ad-out
05-06-2009, 04:38 PM
For someone who is currently unable to win a match from a set and a double-break up, Safin gets a lot of attention.

Yes he does! ;)

ZakMcCrack
05-06-2009, 05:42 PM
affirmative. the single best backhand today has to belong to Djokovic. he could use a little more variety off that wing but it is coming. he is just 21.

Well, he actually is just 21...but on the brink of turning 22;-) (okay..*smartassmode*) I find it rather grim that the single handed backhand is a dying breed nowadays - the more so as "varietas delectat", don't you guys think? Regardless of the many benefits the double hander may bring along...cf. WTA Tour....

Hence I cast a vote for a single hander: Stan's backhand - unbreakable on slow - medium paced courts :cool:

duong
05-06-2009, 06:10 PM
Perhaps, but just isolate his backhand then... Does he outplay opponents with that shot anymore? Does he hit tons of winners compared to errors with that shot? Does it never break down? No. Like the rest of his game, it's just not that great anymore.

As for Nalbandian, he was still able to do it very recently.

As for him I rather thought about "are" than "were" ("they can play it consistently when they are in a good period").

Of course considering his terrible injury, I believe we have to talk about that in the past form.

yonexforever
05-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Honorable mention to Almagro.
Nalbandian and Murray hit the sweetest 2 handed backhands, followed closely by Novak.
Richaaard G is a headcase who disappears at Grand Slams so i cant really consider his.

Cloudygirl
05-06-2009, 09:03 PM
Safin but it's never on
Nalby has an amazing backhand, Murray's is pretty solid, Djokovic, Nadal I would put up there now as well.

Richie can do amazing things with his backhand and has to get a mention.

Burrow
05-06-2009, 09:44 PM
Get my drift?



So you're saying Safin's BH is still the brilliant shot it was in his prime and he's just being let down unbelieveably by every other aspect of his game? No. It's interconnected, he doesn't use the BH effectively enough anymore, consistently enough because his mind is shot, and he makes tons of errors off of it aswell.

Bullcrap, tons of errors... what the hell have you been watching?

ChinoRios4Ever
05-06-2009, 10:08 PM
Chilean legends mate. Both Gonzo and Nico, the best BH in this bussiness :bowdown:

Clydey
05-06-2009, 10:10 PM
Chilean legends mate. Both Gonzo and Nico, the best BH in this bussiness :bowdown:

Agreed.

Corey Feldman
05-06-2009, 10:13 PM
i think you will find the answer to this question is Andrew 'McHaggis flurry' Murray

Thanos
05-06-2009, 10:18 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/1626586663_5d3e1b0637.jpg

Cloudygirl
05-06-2009, 10:23 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/1626586663_5d3e1b0637.jpg

Vamos

ChinoRios4Ever
05-06-2009, 10:23 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200807/r276269_1167630.jpg

w78dexon_y
05-06-2009, 10:50 PM
The most punishing backhand I've seen was Bernard Tomic at the Australian Open.

So, that's the answer to the question: Who has today´s best backhand? lol

vidanhv
05-06-2009, 10:54 PM
Federer's backhand was a killer before, but now it lost its shine. I guess I would have to go for Muzza and Djoko for this one.

Forehander
05-07-2009, 12:55 AM
Opposite to Gasquet, both Safin and Nalbandian were able to play great backhands in a very consistent way ... when they were in a good period.

the question is about the backhand, not about the rest mental or physical or in the rest of the game.

Apart from that, as far as talent is concerned, there's more talent and potential in Nalbandian's and Safin's backhand than in Djokovic's and Murray's.


No. Murray's backhand is far greater than Djokovic's in terms of talent and potential especially in power department and technically it is as close as it gets or equal to Nalbandian's and Safin's backhand within the modern players. The only difference is their game, and Murray's an asshole.

and some people are mentioning Gasquet's backhand not being a good enough shot and overrated. It never was an overrated shot, technically it is one of the best stroke you'll see ever in tennis. To say his forehand is competant is one of the most funniest and ridiculous things you'll hear in today's tennis haha~ It's been many years since Gasquet appeared on the tour and I haven't missed many of his matches. Most if not all of his matches loses in this type of fashion: opponents hits the ball to his forehand with topspin, receives a loop return, goes on the attack and forces Gasquet 2-3m behind the baseline and bye bye... Somewhat similar to the approach of playing Nadal but except Nadal is far more better defending with the loop forehand. If it's a good day, he'll be able to counter attack to win, but if a bad day, not very likely. End of story.

why,marat,why?
05-07-2009, 01:09 AM
Safin's backhand is unique. No player in history has struck a ball with so much effortless power and such economic simplicity of motion.
Or, in his prime that was the case. Somewhere in between losing his movement, motivation, confidence and mind he lost the purity of the stroke. Occasionally he'll find it, but it's ridiculous that his forehand has become the shot which sets up points for him these days.

luie
05-07-2009, 01:14 AM
Safin's backhand is unique. No player in history has struck a ball with so much effortless power and such economic simplicity of motion.
Or, in his prime that was the case. Somewhere in between losing his movement, motivation, confidence and mind he lost the purity of the stroke. Occasionally he'll find it, but it's ridiculous that his forehand has become the shot which sets up points for him these days.
Marat owns fakervic he destroyed him twice once as an old man.Fakervic's lousy BH has nothing on safin.

madlove
05-07-2009, 01:30 AM
gasquet.

Forehander
05-07-2009, 02:01 AM
Safin's backhand is unique. No player in history has struck a ball with so much effortless power and such economic simplicity of motion.
Or, in his prime that was the case. Somewhere in between losing his movement, motivation, confidence and mind he lost the purity of the stroke. Occasionally he'll find it, but it's ridiculous that his forehand has become the shot which sets up points for him these days.

A superb combination of timing, technique and power indeed makes it very unique. I will never forget his devastating tennis game during his prime, it was definitely amongst the best I've seen ever. Such an adorable character, it does hurt alot to see him fall. Why, Marat, why indeed lol.

chowdahead25
05-07-2009, 03:04 AM
Janko and Kohlschreiber

El Legenda
05-07-2009, 03:08 AM
Ljubo has a great backhand, he can slice it and go for it up the line any time...very underrated backhand.
he can also hit some nice backhand flips cross court when the other player is at the net.

alboX
05-07-2009, 03:11 AM
i think massu or karlovic mmmmm, but economidis has the best backhand

Clay Death
05-07-2009, 04:04 AM
i think massu or karlovic mmmmm, but economidis has the best backhand

negative.

next.

ORGASMATRON
05-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Used to be Fed, now its Gasquet :angel:

groundstroke
05-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Action Jackson has 88 000 posts and still doesn't know a single thing about the tennis backhand - such a tool.

marquez
05-07-2009, 08:54 PM
Safin's backhand is unique. No player in history has struck a ball with so much effortless power and such economic simplicity of motion.
Or, in his prime that was the case. Somewhere in between losing his movement, motivation, confidence and mind he lost the purity of the stroke. Occasionally he'll find it, but it's ridiculous that his forehand has become the shot which sets up points for him these days.

totally agree
I love to watch bolellis backhand though it is far too inconsistent
mathieu has one of the best bhs imo

andreevforehand
05-08-2009, 12:26 AM
totally agree
I love to watch bolellis backhand though it is far too inconsistent
mathieu has one of the best bhs imo

I hope that was the first and last mention of Mathieu in this thread. My pick is Nalbandian. When you weigh as much as him and have a 14 ounce racquet, now THAT'S effortless power. Although Murray would be a close second with his touch and versatility.