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EnriqueIG8
05-03-2009, 04:27 PM
Djokovic given his all but it wasn't good enough again.
Great fight though.

Title #5 for Rafito this year and third in 3 weeks. :worship:
Master Series title number 15!



:haha: at the "Macho man" music at the end.

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Murray is No. 3 now? Wow!

Garson007
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Better luck next time.

azinna
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Strong stuff from Rafa...solid A-

Djoko's got the skills and game plan to win against a B+/A- Rafa: strong backhand that can take and give back the spin, drive CC and go DTL on the rise; an equally pressing forehand; and those clutch volleys he's developed. But those drop shots and attendant brain cramps obviously don't help....

Rafa's was more often sharp than not, right from the first game, which is deadly for any player on clay. Djoko had to play quite well just to stay with him for one and a half sets.

asmazif
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Shouldn't have been 6-2. Dammit. Great match for Djoko though.

federernadalfan
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
vamos rafa. too strong clay monster

Guy Haines
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
"Macho, macho man."

Greatness
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
Once again Novak plays terrible tennis on all the big points.

Well deserved by Rafa, a true champion who fights hard for every single point.

nkhera1
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
Nadal earns the time off he is getting after winning 3 weeks in a row.

Good luck to Djokovic who is in the first leg of his own similar trek.

Johnny Groove
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
We are watching an all-time great. Don't let your hate blind you, guys, Rafa is well on his way to becoming the greatest clay courter of all time.

miura
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
easymode for rafa

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2057/gladiatortennis.jpg

navy75
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
Novak tried everything early on. Just impossible to beat Nadal on clay, no?

00923
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
Djokovic played extremely well, too bad it's not good enough against Nadal on clay.

HeretiC
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
Very very good from both of them.

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
"Macho, macho man."

:lol:

Bilbo
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
too easy

Jōris
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
It's a great clay season so far for Djokovic, he broke out of his slump and established himself as the second best clay courter. Well done.

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
never in doubt, btw.

StanisKing
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Rafa really owns Djokovic.
I am starting to believe that this loss will hurt even more than Queen's.

lamnathalie
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
The first set was close though.

lurker
05-03-2009, 04:31 PM
Djokovic folded again. Nadal was surprisingly handing him a lot of weird errors at the end of the first set, then Djokovic inexplicably began puffing 'drop shots' in the net. He bailed out on numerous occasions thereafter when the going got tough in the second set too. If he'd have just hung in there with Nadal, he might have gotten a few more bones thrown at him. Djokovic said it himself, he really knew he had to hang in there with Nadal to get chances.

Well, they definitely provided a great final yet again. I hope they battle it out in RG final too. I hope the seedings and draw work out so they can't meet til the final.

linus
05-03-2009, 04:31 PM
Horribly strong Rafa :devil:

Albop
05-03-2009, 04:31 PM
Great Effort by the #4.

Goget
05-03-2009, 04:31 PM
Stats :

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8262/naddjo.jpg

BIGMARAT
05-03-2009, 04:31 PM
Nole had all the chances and luck was not upon him, thus he let himself be frustrated.

Overall, it was still a good first set and Nole just need to believed he can do it.

Nadal clay mental edge advantage is just too much, but gamewise Nole had the tool to beat him.

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 04:31 PM
No chest thumping or chin in the air from the world number 4, and family, today :lol:

LinkMage
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
5 words:

Weakest. Clay. Court. Era. Ever.

Lee
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Nole played a good match, good enough to push Nadal to play better to win. I won't say both players playing at their best but this is the best clay court match so far this year.

kafemotor
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Amazing stuff from both. Just Nadal is to strong for Nole. Those attacking shots made Nadal little bit uneasy, but the result just expected. The last point closed all pain. Now rest Nole!!!

Neumann
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Nadal'l las year

3/4 Grand Slam
1/1 Olympic gold
0/1 TMC
5/9 Masters 1000
+2 Titles

In my opinion, Nadal has reached his peak in domination, and it's been one of the most dominant years EVER (in titles, but not in W/L though).
If I had to bet on one of the possibilities, I'd obviously wager that Nadal won't ever have 12 months as dominant as these :)

Laba
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
First set was closer than it should have been. Set point at 5-3, got broken at 5-4 and had a second set point when he served for it again at 6-5. Expected second set scoreline though after that tiebreaker. Congrats, Rafa.

superslam77
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
the song at the end confirms by theory!!!!! macho macho man by the village people!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bg3k_village-people-macho-man-version-lo_music

HeretiC
05-03-2009, 04:32 PM
It is so amazing when you see that Djokovic was more tired at the end of the 20 shot rally just by hitting the ball as harder as he could from corner to corner than Nadal chasing every single one of them from side to side.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Novak Djokovic is horrible on clay.

Steelq
05-03-2009, 04:35 PM
5 words:

Weakest. Clay. Court. Era. Ever.
8 words

Greatest. Clay. Courter. Of. All. Time. By. Far.

Commander Data
05-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Gotta give credit to the Djoker here. He really fought hard until mid 2nd set.


Like Fed he has the weapons to hurt Rafa but just can't keep up with Rafas intensity and consistency for the entire match. Anyway I think the gap is not that great, if Rafas level drops a bit he is beatable. In a best of 5 i can't see anybody do it though.

lamnathalie
05-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Something would have changed if Djokovic had won the the first set.

Cloudygirl
05-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Nadal'l las year

3/4 Grand Slam
1/1 Olympic gold
0/1 TMC
5/9 Masters 1000
+2 Titles

In my opinion, Nadal has reached his peak in domination, and it's been one of the most dominant years EVER (in titles, but not in W/L though).
If I had to bet on one of the possibilities, I'd obviously wager that Nadal won't ever have 12 months as dominant as these :)

I keep thinking that and then he keeps getting better.

alter ego
05-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Djoko such a good match at times, too bad for the poor tiebreak :(, better luck in Madrid, as for RG no chance, his energy won't last more than 2/3 sets.

rocketassist
05-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Aggressor gives everything, dominates points, can't finish them, crumbles. Typical Nadal clay match really.

Commander Data
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Something would have changed if Djokovic had won the the first set.

I doubt it.

rocketassist
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Novak Djokovic is horrible on clay.

It's been his best surface in the last eight months by a distance.

aussie_fan
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Enjoyable match, Djoko fought well to get it to a TB ont he first, learned to be a bit more agressive and stay up towards the baseline. Not that good of a TB though, that solid tennis continued at the start of the second, both fought hard and Novak had his chances but Rafa was always going to wear him down.

aeronatasha
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
:worship: to Rafa, boy truly is a brick wall out there.
Good fight from Nole, barring that shanked TB and that awful last game (first a bh parallel out, then a wild fh into the stands:o).

Some incredible points from both of them as always, and weird not to see Rafa close the set on 2 occasions, but came through when it mattered most.:)

I thought Novak took a while to fully get going, than raised his level, then again lost it in that TB. Though Rafa did hit some unearthly shots.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to watch the ceremony, could someone be nice enough to post it here? Thanks.:)

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 04:37 PM
At least this wasn't a blow out like Ricky Hatton last night. This lasted a good hour ;)

rafa_maniac
05-03-2009, 04:37 PM
High quality tennis in that first set, minus the hilarious brain farts by both players on all the most important points. Both looked somewhat flat in the 2nd but kept on fighting strongly, and Nadal as ever just had way more to give. Good stuff Nole, you deserve the status of #2 on clay and once again pushed Rafa harder than anyone. And Rafa... Current #1 with over 15000 points, defending champion at 3/4 Grand Slams (SF at the 4th), 5/9 Masters Series Events, Olympics and Davis Cup (sorta) :worship: What else can you say?

EnriqueIG8
05-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Djokovic speaks Italian?

kafemotor
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Rafa really owns Djokovic.
I am starting to believe that this loss will hurt even more than Queen's.

No! Different psyco into the match. On Queens, Nole believed he could revenge his hamburg defeat, while here is different frame of mind. Taking as many games as possible is already great. Great clay season so far for Djokovic, he will try again next time... About the #3 complex, he will rebound sooner than later...

rocketassist
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
5 words:

Weakest. Clay. Court. Era. Ever.

Agreed...give him Muster, Corretja, Costa, Bruguera, Kuerten, Norman, Courier, Gaudio, Coria in their prime and he would not have it all his own way.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
It's been his best surface in the last eight months by a distance.

Nope, he is doing best there because all the others suck even badly there (Murray and Federer)
He can´t hold his serve for God's sake.

green25814
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
boring match, expected result.

el tenista
05-03-2009, 04:40 PM
How's the track called being played at the moment during the ceremony?

Action Jackson
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Macho Man and Chariots of Fire, too classy.

The question is Nole's Italian is better than Nadal's English?

Nole doesn't bend over, at least he has a go, but I mean it's like those distance running races, there is a guy who can keep up for 60 percent of the way and the champion is still in neutral. When the other guy gets tired or just drops a small bit, the champ just surges away and crushes him into the ground.

EnriqueIG8
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Lol at Rafa trying to combinate Spanish/Italian and English in his speech.

BIGMARAT
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
watching the ceremony, I can imagine Rafa biting the trophy again, lol!!!
why does he always have to do that?

Chair Umpire
05-03-2009, 04:42 PM
5 words:

Weakest. Clay. Court. Era. Ever.

LOL.

Yeah, and still the so called GOAT (Federer) hasn't been able to win RG. :retard:

djul
05-03-2009, 04:42 PM
Rafa speaks Italian as good as he speaks English.

"Macho man":D

Funny speeches, no?;)

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 04:42 PM
You can bash Novak all you want but Roger would've taken probably 3 games off of Nadal. Novak at least showed some heart.

Bee
05-03-2009, 04:42 PM
I agree, lamnathalie ... if the first set had gone to Djoko, anything could've happened. Djoko did well to 'take it to' Rafa in that first set - but I'm glad Rafa held on :) ... Nadal is SO tough mentally. Second set was easier than I thought. Good match however.

JolánGagó
05-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Masterly.

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 04:47 PM
not many Serb flags in this thread :eek: or Tangy

asmazif
05-03-2009, 04:47 PM
hehe, mutual respect with the Djoko impressions.

Clay Death
05-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Masterly.


never in doubt. i wonder if he plans to skip Madrid now. the preparation for roland garros is complete.

the message to the opposition is loud and clear.

rocketassist
05-03-2009, 04:48 PM
never in doubt. i wonder if he plans to skip Madrid now. the preparation for roland garros is complete.

the message to the opposition is loud and clear.

He won't, its a home tournament, if he turns up he will win, it's pretty much nailed on he will play.

superslam77
05-03-2009, 04:48 PM
Macho Man and Chariots of Fire, too classy.

The question is Nole's Italian is better than Nadal's English?
Nole doesn't bend over, at least he has a go, but I mean it's like those distance running races, there is a guy who can keep up for 60 percent of the way and the champion is still in neutral. When the other guy gets tired or just drops a small bit, the champ just surges away and crushes him into the ground.

about a million times! nole is practically Italian by the way he speaks..

sphiie
05-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Youhouuuu so happy for Rafael =D
He was excellent played very well !

Did he speak Italian during his speech? By the way, novak's impressions... in front Of Rafa... not a good idea ^^'. Nadal was wise and let Djoko do it but it was... :S

HAPPY FOR RAFAEL, 5th title of the year!
15 masters :o
He's winning 3 masters again and he will beat Agassi's record... Rafael you're my hero!

THE KING OF CLAY you're awesooommmme and you deserved this victory at 10000%!!

crude oil
05-03-2009, 04:51 PM
nadal is just a winning machine. this guy is so good he makes his own luck. all the crucial pts and cat-mouse rallies nadal wins against both djoker and federer.

HarryMan
05-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Nadal is truly the greatest clay court player in the history of the game. He just keeps creating records after records on this surface.

And if it taking Nadal to beat you every week, then Djokovic is doing a fantastic job.

Great final, but the phenomenal one prevailed as usual.

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Great Effort by the #4.#4 gave it all he had

has the #4 ever defended a title yet ???

Sinerra
05-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Good first set by Djokovic. Never in doubt for Nadal.

The speeches were really good :) Didnt know Nole speaks Italian.
lol @ Rafa speaking three languages at the same time :haha:

scarecrows
05-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Djokovic speaks Italian?

his coach was Riccardo Piatti

Running:Free
05-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Scoreline doesn't do justice to the quality and intensity of the match, which was a lot better than the final at MC.

Good to see Nole staying with Rafa even after he went down a break twice in the first set.

Fun trophy ceremony to watch. Both guys are great sports :yeah:

Myrre
05-03-2009, 04:53 PM
Djokovic fights and breaks back twice to get to the tie-break. He then bends over and hands his ass to Rafa. Pathetic. I went out and mowed the lawn after that.

Clay Death
05-03-2009, 04:54 PM
He won't, its a home tournament, if he turns up he will win, it's pretty much nailed on he will play.


i know its much harder to skip these masters events now. he could always offer extreme fatigue as a reason.

in any case, if he plays and wins and then goes on to win roland garros, it will an achievement for the ages.

it takes a superhuman effort to win monte carlo, barcelona, rome, madrid, and then roland garros in a span of just a few weeks.

federernadalfan
05-03-2009, 04:55 PM
it's only a matter of time he will beat agassi's record of tms

Clay Death
05-03-2009, 04:56 PM
Youhouuuu so happy for Rafael =D
He was excellent played very well !

Did he speak Italian during his speech? By the way, novak's impressions... in front Of Rafa... not a good idea ^^'. Nadal was wise and let Djoko do it but it was... :S

HAPPY FOR RAFAEL, 5th title of the year!
15 masters :o
He's winning 3 masters again and he will beat Agassi's record... Rafael you're my hero!

THE KING OF CLAY you're awesooommmme and you deserved this victory at 10000%!!


in your sig, you can change that to 36 titles now.

star
05-03-2009, 04:57 PM
Oh, that was beautiful -- seeing Nadal celebrate his victory to the tune of Macho Man. :lol: :lol:

I was glad to see Djokovic play well and sometimes I was just enjoying the marvelous shots from each. It's so hard to keep on executing the shots needed to beat Nadal on clay. Two beautiful points -- the 20 shot rally Nadal won and the 22 shot rally Djokovic won. There were so many great moments. Nadal was so happy celebrating -- sort of a pumped up Bjorn Borg fall to the knees rather than the flat on the back that has become standard. He really looked relieved. :) :)

Geo
05-03-2009, 04:57 PM
I said yesterday that Nadal would need to play better in the final than he did against Gonzalez, and he did :lol: There was a big difference between his performance in the 2 matches :worship: Djokovic played quite well, but Nadal's level was just too good today. :shrug:

Djokovic is clearly the 2nd best clay courter, and it will be a shame if he isn't on the opposite side of the draw as Nadal during RG.


This truly was an enjoyable final today :D

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 04:57 PM
it's only a matter of time he will beat agassi's record of tms

I may be in minority but the way Rafa's going, he might beat Sampras' record soon. I mean add Wimbledon and French this year and he'll have eight

PinkFeatherBoa
05-03-2009, 04:57 PM
Entertaining match, props to both. :worship:

Congrats to Rafa on Masters 15. Novak, nice fight for the most part (last game *ahem*). It would be a crime if they get put in the same half at RG, I really hope that doesn't happen, so that we could get the 'right' final this year.

Really enjoyed the trophy ceremony and all the wonderful Italian and forced impressions. :lol:A fitting end to a nice match.

NikolaBGD
05-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Congratulation for Nadal, best claycourt player ever!

Nole try everything, but you have to be superman to beat Rafa on clay.

Steelq
05-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Great match by 2 best players in the world atm,but Rafa is just mentally too strong.

BIGMARAT
05-03-2009, 05:01 PM
I may be in minority but the way Rafa's going, he might beat Sampras' record soon. I mean add Wimbledon and French this year and he'll have eight

dont push it! he's only halfway of sampras record.

Lee
05-03-2009, 05:01 PM
Youhouuuu so happy for Rafael =D
He was excellent played very well !

Did he speak Italian during his speech? By the way, novak's impressions... in front Of Rafa... not a good idea ^^'. Nadal was wise and let Djoko do it but it was... :S
HAPPY FOR RAFAEL, 5th title of the year!
15 masters :o
He's winning 3 masters again and he will beat Agassi's record... Rafael you're my hero!

THE KING OF CLAY you're awesooommmme and you deserved this victory at 10000%!!

Did you purposely miss the part that both were put on the spot by the MC? Or the part that Novak was very reluctant to do it until it's OKay by Nadal?

Clay Death
05-03-2009, 05:02 PM
I may be in minority but the way Rafa's going, he might beat Sampras' record soon. I mean add Wimbledon and French this year and he'll have eight

you are not in the minority. once he bags roland garros and wimby, lot of people in the tennis circles will feel like he has a chance at the record.

only 3 conditions must hold:

1. he must get his 7th and 8th slam this year
2. he must improve
3. he must stay healthy

Oizo
05-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Congrats Rafa! :worship: I wish I had seen it :(

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:03 PM
Great match by 2 best players in the world atm,but Rafa is just mentally too strong.

Two best clay courters in the world, not the two best players.

walid1988
05-03-2009, 05:03 PM
good fight for nole,but nadal was unbeatble today!any way i like nole when he immitated rafa after the match,that was soo funny!

ImmzB
05-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Well done Rafa!!

3rd title in 3 weeks!!

15th Masters!

Bilbo
05-03-2009, 05:06 PM
I may be in minority but the way Rafa's going, he might beat Sampras' record soon. I mean add Wimbledon and French this year and he'll have eight

the way Rafa's going he might win the golden slam this year

he'll beat sampras' record anyway imo

LinkMage
05-03-2009, 05:06 PM
LOL.

Yeah, and still the so called GOAT (Federer) hasn't been able to win RG. :retard:

Fedmug would be lucky to win RG even without Nadull. He could pull it off but go watch how he got destroyed by a semi retired Kuerten in 2004.

Hope this helps.

ImmzB
05-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Nadal will break Agassi's record of Masters Won this year!!

YOU HAVE 2 BE ON DIFFERENT LEVEL 2 BEAT RAFA ON CLAY!

NADAL IS JUST 2 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ON CLAY AND MENTALY 2 STRONG!!!!!!!!

RAFA NADAL

Surcouf
05-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Very good match. Congrats for both. Djokovic played much better than yesterday and Nadal, well , he is really incredible. Winning Roma again is a great performance. Best player on clay in the history of tennis.

Sunset of Age
05-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Fantastic achievement, congrats Rafa! :hatoff: :worship:

Wish I had been able to watch. Alas. Next chance coming up soon. :)

Priam
05-03-2009, 05:09 PM
Amazing! Rafa is in the 5th year of his clay court dynasty... Now he should tank Madrid and rest up.

Erica86
05-03-2009, 05:10 PM
5 words:

Weakest. Clay. Court. Era. Ever.

2 words:
Jealous hater

ImmzB
05-03-2009, 05:10 PM
Nadal WILL be unbeaten when he wins Wimbledon from winning in Monte Carlo!

Steelq
05-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Two best clay courters in the world, not the two best players.
Nope.Two best players,who can play excellent tennis on every surface.

LinkMage
05-03-2009, 05:16 PM
Nope.Two best players,who can play excellent tennis on every surface.

Fakervic sucks on grass.

ImmzB
05-03-2009, 05:18 PM
If Djokovic plays 2 his level he can reach the Final in Roland Garros only if he doesnt face Nadal in the Semi Finals!

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Nope.Two best players,who can play excellent tennis on every surface.

I think I'll take my chances with Murray against Nole on grass.

Besides, recent results don't support your assertion ;)

Vanjezi
05-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Rafa :worship::worship::worship:

Chloe le Bopper
05-03-2009, 05:19 PM
Is it really that hard to write out "to" and "too"? Honestly, now.

sawan66278
05-03-2009, 05:19 PM
:worship: to Rafa, boy truly is a brick wall out there.
Good fight from Nole, barring that shanked TB and that awful last game (first a bh parallel out, then a wild fh into the stands:o).

Some incredible points from both of them as always, and weird not to see Rafa close the set on 2 occasions, but came through when it mattered most.:)

I thought Novak took a while to fully get going, than raised his level, then again lost it in that TB. Though Rafa did hit some unearthly shots.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to watch the ceremony, could someone be nice enough to post it here? Thanks.:)

Trophy ceremony was fantastic! Much respect and friendship between the two...with Novak doing (reluctantly) his Rafa impression...but with Rafa's permission. And both of them laughing at the Chariots of Fire theme going on and on...:D

AND, interestingly enough, Rafa even applauded an incredible Novak winning volley during the match. I've never seen that before:eek: Rafa is usually too intense.

Thought the match in Monte Carlo was better played, but I think the wind had much to do with that. Novak was consistent, but did not attack enough with the backhand down the line. Played too safe, and let Rafa simply trade blows with him.

Plus, I never got the impression that Djokovic believed he could defeat Rafa...and every time Rafa broke, it was after Novak was either ahead in the game...or had momentum on his side (except the last game of the match).

Incredible pass by Rafa on match point too!

Even though the rankings say otherwise, its clear: Novak is neck and neck with Andy as the second best player in the world...with Roger a distant fourth.

And one other point: I WAS WRONG. Novak is an excellent clay court player.

HeretiC
05-03-2009, 05:20 PM
I think I'll take my chances with Murray against Nole on grass.

Besides, recent results don't support your assertion ;)

Oh Clydey, are you trying to turn this into Murray thread again?

~Maya~
05-03-2009, 05:23 PM
Trophy ceremony was fantastic! Much respect and friendship between the two...with Novak doing (reluctantly) his Rafa impression...but with Rafa's permission. And both of them laughing at the Chariots of Fire theme going on and on...:D

AND, interestingly enough, Rafa even applauded an incredible Novak winning volley during the match. I've never seen that before:eek: Rafa is usually too intense.

Thought the match in Monte Carlo was better played, but I think the wind had much to do with that. Novak was consistent, but did not attack enough with the backhand down the line. Played too safe, and let Rafa simply trade blows with him.

Plus, I never got the impression that Djokovic believed he could defeat Rafa...and every time Rafa broke, it was after Novak was either ahead in the game...or had momentum on his side (except the last game of the match).

Incredible pass by Rafa on match point too!

Even though the rankings say otherwise, its clear: Novak is neck and neck with Andy as the second best player in the world...with Roger a distant fourth.

And one other point: I WAS WRONG. Novak is an excellent clay court player.

:eek:

Congrats to Rafa :hatoff:

prima donna
05-03-2009, 05:23 PM
The question is Nole's Italian is better than Nadal's English?

Yes.

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 05:24 PM
This doesn't bode too well for Roger. He is well off the pace in the ATP race, and the way it's going he'll be No. 4 soon. Novak may be No. 4 now but he deserves to be No. 3 with these 2 great performances in the last 2 masters. Roger did reach that AO final but he should've lost to Berdych were Berdych not a complete joke.

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:25 PM
Oh Clydey, are you trying to turn this into Murray thread again?

I'm following Corey Feldman's lead. :lol:

Garson007
05-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Trophy ceremony was fantastic! Much respect and friendship between the two...with Novak doing (reluctantly) his Rafa impression...but with Rafa's permission. And both of them laughing at the Chariots of Fire theme going on and on...:D

AND, interestingly enough, Rafa even applauded an incredible Novak winning volley during the match. I've never seen that before:eek: Rafa is usually too intense.

Thought the match in Monte Carlo was better played, but I think the wind had much to do with that. Novak was consistent, but did not attack enough with the backhand down the line. Played too safe, and let Rafa simply trade blows with him.

Plus, I never got the impression that Djokovic believed he could defeat Rafa...and every time Rafa broke, it was after Novak was either ahead in the game...or had momentum on his side (except the last game of the match).

Incredible pass by Rafa on match point too!

Even though the rankings say otherwise, its clear: Novak is neck and neck with Andy as the second best player in the world...with Roger a distant fourth.

And one other point: I WAS WRONG. Novak is an excellent clay court player.
Where is the real Sawan and what have you done with him?

HeretiC
05-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Novak was consistent, but did not attack enough with the backhand down the line. Played too safe, and let Rafa simply trade blows with him.


I give up.

sLayer
05-03-2009, 05:28 PM
I saw this movie! Rafa is unstoppable on clay!

Commander Data
05-03-2009, 05:28 PM
I may be in minority but the way Rafa's going, he might beat Sampras' record soon. I mean add Wimbledon and French this year and he'll have eight

:retard:


He has 6, beating Sampras means having 15. Thats a loooooong way to go son.

it is like saying he will have 40 MS soon. just very retarded....

MrChopin
05-03-2009, 05:32 PM
This doesn't bode too well for Roger. He is well off the pace in the ATP race, and the way it's going he'll be No. 4 soon. Novak may be No. 4 now but he deserves to be No. 3 with these 2 great performances in the last 2 masters. Roger did reach that AO final but he should've lost to Berdych were Berdych not a complete joke.

Can you please talk about Roger some more in this thread? Maybe in all of your posts? Thanks.

aeronatasha
05-03-2009, 05:33 PM
Trophy ceremony was fantastic! Much respect and friendship between the two...with Novak doing (reluctantly) his Rafa impression...but with Rafa's permission. And both of them laughing at the Chariots of Fire theme going on and on...:D

AND, interestingly enough, Rafa even applauded an incredible Novak winning volley during the match. I've never seen that before:eek: Rafa is usually too intense.

Thought the match in Monte Carlo was better played, but I think the wind had much to do with that. Novak was consistent, but did not attack enough with the backhand down the line. Played too safe, and let Rafa simply trade blows with him.

Plus, I never got the impression that Djokovic believed he could defeat Rafa...and every time Rafa broke, it was after Novak was either ahead in the game...or had momentum on his side (except the last game of the match).

Incredible pass by Rafa on match point too!

Even though the rankings say otherwise, its clear: Novak is neck and neck with Andy as the second best player in the world...with Roger a distant fourth.

And one other point: I WAS WRONG. Novak is an excellent clay court player.

Thanks for posting those details :), wish I watched the ceremony. I know they get along great, and have the utmost respect for each other.

Unreal tennis for Rafa, boy's got such passion and desire, wonderful to see.:worship:

Thought Nole played really well, hope that continues through RG. Too bad he lost his spot, he truly redeemed himself these last few weeks.

Here's to their next match, hope we'll see it soon.;)

Foxy
05-03-2009, 05:34 PM
Agreed...give him Muster, Corretja, Costa, Bruguera, Kuerten, Norman, Courier, Gaudio, Coria in their prime and he would not have it all his own way.

Except Coria all will be fed with a bagel and a breadstick by TENNS MONSTAAAAAAAAA!

l_mac
05-03-2009, 05:34 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo:

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:34 PM
This doesn't bode too well for Roger. He is well off the pace in the ATP race, and the way it's going he'll be No. 4 soon. Novak may be No. 4 now but he deserves to be No. 3 with these 2 great performances in the last 2 masters. Roger did reach that AO final but he should've lost to Berdych were Berdych not a complete joke.

Try and think back beyond the last two tournaments. Nalbandian won 2 Masters back to back in 2007. Where should he have been ranked, since we seem to be judging over a 3 week period?

pica_pica
05-03-2009, 05:35 PM
:worship: First of all congratulations for Rafa for his 15th MS title, more than Rogi now! What an achievement for a 22-year-old! Truly a very deserving champion :yeah: with everything from his tennis, his manners, his work ethic, his attitude to appreciate. Always my role model, Rafa never disappoints me! :)

:yeah: Kudos for Novak for his effort especially in 1st set. Not as a good match as in MC, but Novak has established himself as clay #2 guy. And kudos for his other nice matches this week (esp. the one vs Fed) and his improvements in these few weeks. 3 consecutive MS finals, no small feat! And he has given his very best to try defend the #3 ranking. Falling to #4 in rankings but going up to #2 in the race...momentum still on! Still positve and doing impersonations in the ceremony...always nice to see this optimism! :)

And congratulations to Murray for his effort over the past year. Not a nice fashion to rise to #3 but his impressive hard court run deserves applause. :yeah:

Finally, where are you, Roger? I think there are signs he's improving, but still to see.

Tennis wins!

rafa_maniac
05-03-2009, 05:36 PM
i_mac, your sig doesn't dissapoint :lol: :yeah:

NikolaBGD
05-03-2009, 05:37 PM
Linda, please give us another option - Rafa lose :)

l_mac
05-03-2009, 05:39 PM
Linda, please give us another option - Rafa lose :)

If Nole had won I'd have used this:

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/novak_keeps_3.jpg

Sunset of Age
05-03-2009, 05:40 PM
:worship: First of all congratulations for Rafa for his 15th MS title, more than Rogi now! What an achievement for a 22-year-old! Truly a very deserving champion :yeah: with everything from his tennis, his manners, his work ethic, his attitude to appreciate. Always my role model, Rafa never disappoints me! :)

:yeah: Kudos for Novak for his effort especially in 1st set. Not as a good match as in MC, but Novak has established himself as clay #2 guy. And kudos for his other nice matches this week (esp. the one vs Fed) and his improvements in these few weeks. 3 consecutive MS finals, no small feat! And he has given his very best to try defend the #3 ranking. Falling to #4 in rankings but going up to #2 in the race...momentum still on! Still positve and doing impersonations in the ceremony...always nice to see this optimism! :)

And congratulations to Murray for his effort over the past year. Not a nice fashion to rise to #3 but his impressive hard court run deserves applause. :yeah:

Lovely post, so positive to all! :yeah: :hug:

Finally, where are you, Roger? I think there are signs he's improving, but still to see.

Hmm hmm... if someone's belief isn't there anymore... :sad:

Tennis wins!

If Rafa, Djoko, and Muzza continue their good runs AND Feddie gets his head screwed on again... indeed. :)

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 05:41 PM
I'm following Corey Feldman's lead. :lol:
taking me down with you? :eek:

Bilbo
05-03-2009, 05:41 PM
This doesn't bode too well for Roger. He is well off the pace in the ATP race, and the way it's going he'll be No. 4 soon. Novak may be No. 4 now but he deserves to be No. 3 with these 2 great performances in the last 2 masters. Roger did reach that AO final but he should've lost to Berdych were Berdych not a complete joke.

since when Berdych is capable of beating a top player? :scratch:

rafa_maniac
05-03-2009, 05:41 PM
The losing one is much better. :cool:

l_mac
05-03-2009, 05:43 PM
The losing one is much better. :cool:

Of course. :D

Haven't seen the match yet (hope Sky+ doesn't fail me) and won't until tomorrow :(

Did SKY show the trophy ceremony? I guess no :sad:

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 05:43 PM
Try and think back beyond the last two tournaments. Nalbandian won 2 Masters back to back in 2007. Where should he have been ranked, since we seem to be judging over a 3 week period?

Fat Dave is not really a fair comparison here. Novak has been No. 3 for a few months now and he just lost that spot to Murray. But he is ahead of Roger in the ATP race.

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:45 PM
taking me down with you? :eek:

Never.

I'm taking you up with me.

luie
05-03-2009, 05:46 PM
Fat Dave is not really a fair comparison here. Novak has been No. 3 for a few months now and he just lost that spot to Murray. But he is ahead of Roger in the ATP race.
Are you by chance the cousin of Fedfan2007.:o

scarecrows
05-03-2009, 05:46 PM
good work l-mac

it was worth it skipping the pub last night

alfonsojose
05-03-2009, 05:47 PM
At least Kuzzy won Stuttgart :zzz: Clay season is so boring :yawn:

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Fat Dave is not really a fair comparison here. Novak has been No. 3 for a few months now and he just lost that spot to Murray. But he is ahead of Roger in the ATP race.

He has been consistently outperformed over the past 9-10 months. Can't judge over a 3 week period. He is obviously the better clay court player, but that doesn't erase everything that has gone before.

Clydey
05-03-2009, 05:49 PM
good work l-mac

it was worth it skipping the pub last night

For the Hatton-Pacquiao fight?

I spent Ł15 ordering that fucking thing and Hatton lasted 2 rounds. I had expected him to last for at least 5.

Jōris
05-03-2009, 05:49 PM
taking me down with you? :eek:

Never.

I'm taking you up with me.

Feldman and Clydey, blurring the lines between Muzzatardism and homosexual adoration one post at the time.

NikolaBGD
05-03-2009, 05:49 PM
If Nole had won I'd have used this:

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/novak_keeps_3.jpg

:worship::worship::worship:

Nole don't like prison, he is free spirit guy ;)

cocrcici
05-03-2009, 05:52 PM
:sad:#2 in the race. :D

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 06:00 PM
good stuff imac

Clydey
05-03-2009, 06:03 PM
Feldman and Clydey, blurring the lines between Muzzatardism and homosexual adoration one post at the time.

So what if I have a man crush on Feldman? I'm secure enough to admit that. :shrug:

Just ask finishingmove. He knows.

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 06:04 PM
clydey is a fine piece of meat.

luie
05-03-2009, 06:06 PM
:worship::worship::worship:

Nole don't like prison, he is free spirit guy ;)
He is in the mental prison of nadull,with federer as a cell mate.:mad:

Jōris
05-03-2009, 06:06 PM
good stuff imac

Don't lie, rafatard.

Clydey
05-03-2009, 06:06 PM
Don't lie, rafatard.

Don't you dare talk to him like that.

LinkMage
05-03-2009, 06:07 PM
imac has too much time on her hands.

luie
05-03-2009, 06:08 PM
imac has too much time on her hands.
I think she does her work between nadull's first & second serves.

Clydey
05-03-2009, 06:09 PM
imac has too much time on her hands.

I pure, straight hate l_mac.

But goddammit do I respect her sigs.

Clydey
05-03-2009, 06:09 PM
I think she does her work between nadull's first & second serves.

:lol:

Liked it.

LinkMage
05-03-2009, 06:11 PM
I think she does her work between nadull's first & second serves.

:spit:

luie
05-03-2009, 06:11 PM
I pure, straight hate l_mac.

But goddammit do I respect her sigs.
Be patient Clydey Murray will own nadull soon enough, he seems to be the only one capable of it right now.:D

aferlo
05-03-2009, 06:12 PM
Good match. Nole played really well, but you never had the impression that Nadal could loose. Nevertheless, Rafa seemed less fresh than last week and his service isn´t working well, even with today´s 71% first service. But although he is not at his peak, he keeps winning, showing a grat advantage over his opponents, simmilar to what Borg did whe he was domminating tennis. Will he retire as soon as the swedish did?

dusan1610
05-03-2009, 06:15 PM
Good match for Nole...

Jelena_78
05-03-2009, 06:17 PM
Good effort Nole :yeah:

Rafa :worship: :worship:
Congrats!

Jōris
05-03-2009, 06:17 PM
Don't you dare talk to him like that.

Ok, I'm sorry.

Jōris
05-03-2009, 06:19 PM
I think she does her work between nadull's first & second serves.

This post deserves more love.

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 06:27 PM
since when Berdych is capable of beating a top player? :scratch:

Exactly. That's what I am saying. If Berdych was any good he'd beaten Roger that day. But since Berdych is such a mug, he lost a 2 set lead after chocking badly. Let's see how the rankings will change after Wimbledon. A lot of moves can happen in the 2-3-4 area. Nadal will stay No. 1 though.

Albop
05-03-2009, 06:30 PM
I think she does her work between nadull's first & second serves.

lol

Too big.

HeretiC
05-03-2009, 06:32 PM
Feldman and Clydey, blurring the lines between Muzzatardism and homosexual adoration one post at the time.

Ah, who cares, it is all good as long as they are happy.

So what if I have a man crush on Feldman? I'm secure enough to admit that. :shrug:

Just ask finishingmove. He knows.

clydey is a fine piece of meat.

:yeah: But I am a little bit confused who is doing who, or is it menage de trois?

l_mac
05-03-2009, 06:34 PM
I think she does her work between nadull's first & second serves.

:haha:

cobalt60
05-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Linda- you are an awesome signature maker. :worship: Glad to see you can laugh too;)

Johnny Groove
05-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Nice siggie, Linda. Both of them :yeah:

star
05-03-2009, 06:43 PM
Here is a bit of the ceremony where Novak is asked to do the imitation.

mQzZiw0WAh4

My favorite part was where Djokovic congratulated Nadal on his encore victory, and added "e encore, encore, encore." while smiling.

star
05-03-2009, 06:47 PM
Here is Novak's speech -- Not good quality though.

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cobalt60
05-03-2009, 06:56 PM
Here is a bit of the ceremony where Novak is asked to do the imitation.

mQzZiw0WAh4

My favorite part was where Djokovic congratulated Nadal on his encore victory, and added "e encore, encore, encore." while smiling.

How can anyone not like both these guys? Too damn cute. And great players in their own right. I loved watching this final.

Vida
05-03-2009, 06:56 PM
hehe very nice match. had every thing involved and still came out right in the end. congratz Rafa :yeah:

nole nice fight, could have done better but whatya gonna do eh?

glad everything went well and in kinda friendly atmosphere despite fierce tennis. from nole forgetting to take picture at the net, to this ending.

bobbynorwich
05-03-2009, 06:57 PM
No chest thumping or chin in the air from the world number 4, and family, today

A bonus that comes with the Nadal win for sure.

http://www.murraysworld.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_clapping.gif

luie
05-03-2009, 06:59 PM
Nice fight in the first set for the world #4.

pica_pica
05-03-2009, 07:04 PM
Here is a bit of the ceremony where Novak is asked to do the imitation.

mQzZiw0WAh4

My favorite part was where Djokovic congratulated Nadal on his encore victory, and added "e encore, encore, encore." while smiling.
Gotta love these two :hearts:

sanshisan
05-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Here is a bit of the ceremony where Novak is asked to do the imitation.

mQzZiw0WAh4

My favorite part was where Djokovic congratulated Nadal on his encore victory, and added "e encore, encore, encore." while smiling.

Nole is the greatest personality ever to walk on a tennis court. Gave his acceptance speech in Italian. The crowd loved his impersonation.

star
05-03-2009, 07:11 PM
Nole is the greatest personality ever to be on a tennis court. Gave his acceptance speech in Italian. The crowd loved his impersonation.

I liked the part where Rafa grabbed Novak's trophy. :lol: :lol:

Also cute when Nole tried to hide behind it. :silly:

scarecrows
05-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Nole is the greatest personality ever to be on a tennis court.
corrected

luie
05-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I liked the part where Rafa grabbed Novak's trophy. :lol: :lol:

Also cute when Nole tried to hide behind it. :silly:
So cute, it made me cry a little.:sad:

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 07:18 PM
federer should engage in this kind of post match activity..

good for his psyche

pica_pica
05-03-2009, 07:20 PM
So cute, it made me cry a little.:sad:
To speak the truth, me too. Don't exactly know why.

pica_pica
05-03-2009, 07:21 PM
federer should engage in this kind of post match activity..

good for his psyche
Kind of agree with that...
That AO ceremony....but it touches hearts (and angered some) in another way...
Roger and Novak are different personalities...both adorable

sanshisan
05-03-2009, 07:23 PM
It was great to see Nole genuinely smiling and laughing and making jokes again like the early days (even if they were mostly in Italian).

Vida
05-03-2009, 07:30 PM
yeah, they kinda look relaxed and in good mood. so refreshing compared to where Federer is involved. or Murray for that matter. two introverts.

Commander Data
05-03-2009, 07:32 PM
To speak the truth, me too. Don't exactly know why.

:bolt:

bobbynorwich
05-03-2009, 07:33 PM
Nole is the greatest personality ever to be on a tennis court.

http://www.murraysworld.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_bs.gif http://www.murraysworld.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_bs.gif http://www.murraysworld.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_bs.gif

djul
05-03-2009, 07:36 PM
the way Rafa's going he might win the golden slam this year
Rafa is sooo strong and on fire, but winning a gold medal this year would really be superhuman :p

Great match.
Great trophy ceremony.
Enjoyed it ;)

rofe
05-03-2009, 07:39 PM
federer should engage in this kind of post match activity..

good for his psyche

What take it from the behind smiling?

star
05-03-2009, 07:42 PM
Rafa is sooo strong and on fire, but winning a gold medal this year would really be superhuman :p



Wait for it. :)

Proof that Rafa is indeed the greatest of all time if he manages that impossiblity.

Andi-M
05-03-2009, 07:42 PM
:yeah: Great thread!

Shock result. Congrats Nadal

tangerine_dream
05-03-2009, 07:43 PM
Good stuff. Scoreline doesn't do the match justice, the first set was such high quality. Happy to see Novak finally out of his slump and get his confidence back. He looks like he's having fun out there again, good to see. The trophy presentation was fun with Novak doing the Nadal impression again for the crowd (poor guy is always under pressure to perform afterwards). Loved Rafa's Italian Spanglish. Rafa wasn't playing near his best but he still won his matches comfortably. Playing three weeks straight he deserves and needs a break before Roland Garros. Congrats to the clay gladiator. :hatoff:

They played YMCA for Novak and Macho Man for Rafa, doesn't get any better than that. :lol:

Pfloyd
05-03-2009, 07:49 PM
15 Master Series wow.

Keep this up Rafa, you legend now go and tie McEnroe in Slam titles, and keep getting more.

:yeah:

Garson007
05-03-2009, 08:06 PM
If Nole had won I'd have used this:

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/novak_keeps_3.jpg
Haha. You've turned into a great sport lately. Nice to see.

Mr. Oracle
05-03-2009, 08:06 PM
Congratulations Nole for another great performance. We can look forward to a long rivalry between you two, the #1 and #2 players in the world.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 08:10 PM
Djokovic did not show patience today?? He wanted to win it quickly, and once he realised it was not going to be quick, he just surrendered. His own break in the final game was a fake?! Instead of retiring now, he just defaults on his own serve and he is out. (that's exactly what he done in MC final, third set!?). Job done!? That guy was like rushing on a plane or something.

Every time he broke Nadal he was patiently returning the balls, waiting for Rafa to either surrender or default. And that yielded the points. Then once he realised that he had to do it every time Rafa serves, he lost his patience and started to blame his racket, the ball, the sky...So, no wonder he lost. Rafa played more mature game than Djoker.

Two more things to ponder:

1. His unfamous "drop-shots"? Can anybody analyse that? Why's he going for them even though the shots end in the middle of the net? Even though he knew he was not gonna make it??? There's some mistery about it. Even a tennis amateur can realise that would be a mistake, yet Djokovic doesn't?

2. His racket smashing, chest pumping, showing too much emotions on the court during the match is a sign of immaturity and true weakness. Can he keep his emotions under control during the match?? And then after (the match) he can show whatever is left of it. Can anybody explain to him that emotions are working heavily against him, and that b/c of that he has two opponents to fight: ONE across the net, and the other one right in his own head?? Can anyone explain to Djoker that if he wants te be a true Champ and world #1, he has to get rid of those childlish attitudes?

Undisputed talent and a great mind-set player, yet needs to improve at least on the three fields:
1. Net play 2. Drop-shots (he must learn how to replace them with backhand slices) 3. Serve
And the key to improve these are: to hire the coach who knows more than him.

P.S. If Novak does half of these recommended things, we would see a new King on his raise in less than 6 months. Till then, vamos Rafa!

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 08:26 PM
No chest thumping or chin in the air from the world number 4, and family, today :lol:

seems like you have something personal against Djoker. :devil:
Free advice, buddy: Do not celebrate when Djoker loses! Why? Because there will be more moments when you'll have to moan (when he wins). So, this is just to save yourself more trouble.

P.S. No need to pay for this. :)

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 08:32 PM
Congratulations Nole for another great performance. We can look forward to a long rivalry between you two, the #1 and #2 players in the world.

so, what was great there? Fact that he lost entire final match? Fact that he went into TB in the first set? And lost it heavily there? Or that he lost second set 2:6? Or that he doubled error on his own break point?? Or that he smashed his racket several times, severely damaging it last time?

I would appreciate your explanation.

prafull
05-03-2009, 08:33 PM
Q. Congratulations, Rafa. What this victory means for you?
RAFAEL NADAL: Thank you very much. Sure, one of the most important of my career, no? Win in Rome is a big title. I have right now 15 Masters Series in my career, so that's a lot, and I'm very happy for that.
Sure win here in Rome is always unbelievable. It's a very good tournament, and very happy for the victory.

Q. How did you feel during the match? You started very well and then it became more difficult.
RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, I started well, no? I have 40 15 for him the first game. Later I won the game. It was important the first break. But later was really tough to return. The ball is having big bounce. And, well, when he put the first serve in it was really tough. I didn't have chances to have the second break only in the 5 3. 5 3 I had another one set point, important set point. I hit one backhand to put the winner, and I didn't play good backhand there, no?
But later I think I have a little bit unlucky with the 5 4. I played two good points and I had two mistakes with the forehand down the line. But, yeah, it was well played, because I played aggressive, no? In the 6 5, something I played, yeah, a little bit worse in the 6 5, no? But I had my chance. I have I think 30 Love, so, yeah, tough moments. That was the toughest moments of the match. First point in the tiebreak was for him, but important thing for me was I was anyway having two times the serve to win the set. I lost both times, but I was 100% mentally for the tiebreak, so that's important. Really important.

Q. You mentioned that you've now won 15 Masters Series titles. Are you interested in breaking records for the most Masters titles?
RAFAEL NADAL: I would love have more than yeah, I would love have more than 17, no? Right now I have 15. I'm very happy for that. I'm gonna try my best in the next tournaments. Important thing for me right now I have 15. It's a lot. Sure, I would love to have more than 17, no?

Q. You get asked this after every tournament, but how are you feeling physically after three successive weeks and three successive tournaments and three successive wins?
RAFAEL NADAL: Really well, no? Yeah, I have one long match against Novak in Monte Carlo, but after that I never lost another set. So, yeah, I didn't play very long matches during this tournament. It was 7 6 today, but the other matches I think I have always 6 3 the maximum. So that's very good to play three weeks in a row. In Monte Carlo and Barcelona the same. I play 6 2, 6 2; 6 2, 6 0; 6 3, 6 2, and, well, the final 6 2, 7 5. But not very long set, so it's only today. So that's really important to play three weeks in a row.

Q. About the sets that you never lose. If you never lose a set, you lose only one set in three tournaments. In Roland Garros how can you expect to possibly lose three sets?
RAFAEL NADAL: Every tournament is completely different, no, so it doesn't come nothing before. So right now I'm focus on Madrid, you know. Yeah, Roland Garros is after two or three weeks, so, yeah, first Madrid. Later in Roland Garros we will see. Important thing is play well. If I am playing well, I gonna have a lot of chances to have good results in both tournaments. But you never know what can happen, no? Tennis is always like this.

Q. How much it have been important for you for Djokovic to know that you are the best on the clay, and then of course you are the best in the world. Do you think this is really important in this match? Of course now when it's possible that you meet the opponent that have a sort of be afraid because are the first?
RAFAEL NADAL: I think every match is different than you have to win on court. You never win off court. You never win the matches before the match. You win the matches playing, so that's what I feel, no?

Q. Did you think the impersonation of Djokovic of you was good? Did you like it?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, for me, doesn't matter, no? Yeah, well, if the people ask, the normal thing is do, no? For me, doesn't matter. I think it was funny.

Q. Are you more surprised about yourself because you're able to do this, or are you surprised about your opponent because they don't beat you? They are not very, very strong? Are you surprised about something in this long streak you have?
RAFAEL NADAL: I didn't listen. Tell me. (In Spanish.) Ah, yes, I think when you start the clay season always is the same, no? Last few years you think it's impossible to repeat the same like last years. That's what I feel before I start. But right now I didn't. I didn't. Not already. Because remain win in Roland Garros to repeat the same. But anyway the result of Roland Garros or my clay season was really good, no? Because in the end, if I go to Roland Garros and I lose, I think it's not fair to say I didn't play very good clay season.
Anyway the result on Madrid and Roland Garros, the clay season is unbelievable. I'm very happy for everything. Sure it's a big surprise for me to win three titles in a row in three weeks. But, yeah, I never did in the past, so it's a good thing for me to know I can do. But, sure, I prefer have week off between Barcelona and Rome, no?

Q. Could you give us a feeling about Roger Federer's week here? Do you think he could be enough well prepared for Roland Garros?
RAFAEL NADAL: Madrid remains. I think you forget Madrid, no? He had good matches and he almost win yesterday. He has set and 2 0 and breakpoint for double break in the second, 3 1 in the third. So he has lost the chances to win and to win against a very good player like Novak. So, yeah, he's at the level. Tennis level is there. That's not will be a problem, sure.

Q. You played Djokovic in Monte Carlo and here. Where was more difficult, and was there any difference between the two matches? Were you more in danger in your head there?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, I was more in danger in Monte Carlo, because I had breakpoint in the first game of the set and I lose the set. But my feeling was I was playing a little bit better here than Monte Carlo. The court is more dangerous here than in Monte Carlo to play against him. You understand me?

Q. It's more difficult here?
RAFAEL NADAL: I feel.

Q. Why?
RAFAEL NADAL: Sometimes it's really hard to control the ball, no? The ball is flying a lot. Monte Carlo the ball stays a little bit more. If I'm playing well, I have more chances to have control of the point more times when I am returning, no? But, yeah, it's stupid to say this court is not good for me when I won four times. This court is perfect for me. I like a lot of the crazy bounce, but you have to be playing really well. If you are playing so so, it's more danger.

Q. Are you happy to have to play in Madrid now? Because it's another important tournament for you. Is it not too much in a row before the French Open?
RAFAEL NADAL: That's the calendar, no? I have to play. Sure playing in Spain is always special motivation. The only thing is playing in altitude. The last tournament of Roland Garros is completely different conditions than Madrid and Paris. Believe me, because I played there and I know. Gonna be a really difficult tournament, no? Bu, yeah, maybe I would love don't have the tournament in altitude before Roland Garros. I prefer have, for example, another tournament with similar conditions than Madrid before Monte Carlo before Roland Garros. But that's the calendar, and I gonna try my best there to have a good result.

Q. How will you spend the next two or three days? Will you not pick up a racquet?
RAFAEL NADAL: (Imitating golf swing.)
Q. Golf?
RAFAEL NADAL: A little bit.

Q. You're going to Mallorca?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. Well, not Mallorca. London with rain, no? (Laughter.)

Madrid confirmed. :)

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 08:38 PM
The trophy presentation was fun with Novak doing the Nadal impression again for the crowd (poor guy is always under pressure to perform afterwards).

Well, that speaker did unfair pressure on both Rafa and Nole.
She asked Rafa first had he mind if Novak did impresonation of him! b_tch!

Since Rafa was too nice to turn her down (even though his face showed no happiness), then she turned to Novak and asked him now with rafa's consent in her hand??!! Nole also showed very reluctunt expression and after that he had to apologize Rafa for several times.

So, she got what she wanted, yet she put both players in the weird position to chose between the two of poor choices?

pica_pica
05-03-2009, 08:46 PM
Well, that speaker did unfair pressure on both Rafa and Nole.
She asked Rafa first had he mind if Novak did impresonation of him! b_tch!

Since Rafa was too nice to turn her down (even though his face showed no happiness), then she turned to Novak and asked him now with rafa's consent in her hand??!! Nole also showed very reluctunt expression and after that he had to apologize Rafa for several times.

So, she got what she wanted, yet she put both players in the weird position to chose between the two of poor choices?
Nevermind that. Good laugh and atmosphere in the end. Novak's happy, the speaker's happy, the crowd is happy and even Rafa finds it funny.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 08:49 PM
I like this part:

RAFAEL NADAL: You never win off court. You never win the matches before the match. You win the matches playing, so that's what I feel, no?

thegreendestiny
05-03-2009, 08:49 PM
if only Djokovic could have a better backhand down the line, he could have improved his chances. a lot of times in the match, his backhand shot was not angled well enough and gave Rafa lots of chances for recovery. Jankovic would have done a better job. :p

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 08:53 PM
Nevermind that. Good laugh and atmosphere in the end. Novak's happy, the speaker's happy, the crowd is happy and even Rafa finds it funny.

lol, never mind eh? :rolleyes:
put yourself in situation when you decided to quit doing impersonations, and vowed yourself never to do it in a public place, yet somebody "Smart" puts you in the situation when you have no choice but to do it? Or in another words: you quit drinking/smoking, and somebody forces you to drink. And that would never mind b/c we all have a good time watching you drinking??! :wavey:

morningglory
05-03-2009, 08:54 PM
There was really no other possible outcome :lol:
I'd say congrats to Nadal but this is becoming such a usual thing on clay it's just blah now... no suspense at all

ChinoRios4Ever
05-03-2009, 08:56 PM
Rafa :yeah:

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 08:57 PM
w78dexon_y i agree with you, it was a bit out of line to ask for the impersonation...

though i don't think they're some kind of a vice, as you put it.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 09:02 PM
if only Djokovic could have a better backhand down the line, he could have improved his chances. a lot of times in the match, his backhand shot was not angled well enough and gave Rafa lots of chances for recovery. Jankovic would have done a better job. :p

I agree on this one.

I truly believe that Djokovic was not mentaly ready to win this match. He took it more easily than seriously. He made too many basic errors that prove this. Plus, his emotional attitude (racket smahses, preying to the sky, swearing, showing disappoinment for his own simple mistakes, etc) - proves that his mindset before the match was like 'i'll try to win it, if I don't do it, well there will be always next time'. Well, that's exactly what Djoker had. "Next time". Plus, he quit easily in the second?? He litteraly broke himself in the 8th game.

He needs to mature. It might take him another year or so, before we can see a serious tennis player on the court. That's how long Rafa, Rog and Murr can enjoy beating Djoker. After that, it would've been over. I expect of him to win the whole year GS!! But, not before 2011.

Farenhajt
05-03-2009, 09:09 PM
Congrats, Rafa :)

As for Nole, he IS up there. Technically he KNOWS how to construct a point against Nadal efficiently and is capable of doing so, but today there were just too many cheap blow-ups of a nicely conceived and executed points, plus a bad serving day, so the outcome couldn't be different.

And after he served a DF on a break point (I honestly can't remember last time such a thing happened to him), he simply surrendered.

Lee
05-03-2009, 09:12 PM
lol, never mind eh? :rolleyes:
put yourself in situation when you decided to quit doing impersonations, and vowed yourself never to do it in a public place, yet somebody "Smart" puts you in the situation when you have no choice but to do it? Or in another words: you quit drinking/smoking, and somebody forces you to drink. And that would never mind b/c we all have a good time watching you drinking??! :wavey:

Easy :shrug: She asked Nole to do impersonation last year too even though Nole didn't want to and ended up with a Masha impersonation. At least this year he had the "approval" by Nadal.

Nole did an impersonation in his first match here so I don't think it's really that "bad" for him to do this again.

Garson007
05-03-2009, 09:15 PM
It's natural for him to do the impersonations; as far as I'm concerned it's important for him to do what comes naturally off court to excel on court.

MacTheKnife
05-03-2009, 09:16 PM
Pretty much as predicted. Some tense moments, but in the end the expected result.

sphiie
05-03-2009, 09:25 PM
in your sig, you can change that to 36 titles now.

Thanks i forgot it ;)

sanshisan
05-03-2009, 09:37 PM
lol, never mind eh? :rolleyes:
put yourself in situation when you decided to quit doing impersonations, and vowed yourself never to do it in a public place, yet somebody "Smart" puts you in the situation when you have no choice but to do it? Or in another words: you quit drinking/smoking, and somebody forces you to drink. And that would never mind b/c we all have a good time watching you drinking??! :wavey:

It's not like Nole's sense of humor is some kind of VICE, some terrible addiction.

Alot of people missed the old Nole with the laughs and truly funny antics. He made tennis so much less grim.

That same lady in pink tried to get Nole to do an impersonation when he won Rome in 2008, but he refused. This time Rafa was there and she got his permission first. It was kind of sleazy tactics but in the end it showed that it was more the press screaming negatives about Nole's imitations than it was the fans, who obviously enjoyed him immensely. So maybe Nole will loosen up more and start smiling again, instead of trying all the time to be so FIERCE. He won more when he was more light-hearted and having fun. Nole showed a whole new side to what tennis can be.

Look at all these ATP ads - all the top players have to be pictured shrieking and showing their teeth like a bunch of grimacing baboons ready to tear each other apart.

the graduate
05-03-2009, 09:45 PM
Thank goodness Rafa won,he showed class today and to imagine he is just 22yrs when he retires he will have over 60titles.He wins not less than four titles every year just remarkable truly a legend in his time.
LONG LIVE THE KING OF MEN TENNIS!

sphiie
05-03-2009, 09:51 PM
Thank goodness Rafa won,he showed class today and to imagine he is just 22yrs when he retires he will have over 60titles.He wins not less than four titles every year just remarkable truly a legend in his time.
LONG LIVE THE KING OF MEN TENNIS!

:yeah: he will beat all the records if he continues like this... he's THE KING!!

crude oil
05-03-2009, 10:00 PM
everyone says the same "expected win" and same BS. but nadal has to keep coming up with the goods in the pressure situations against a player who himself is not so bad in such situations...the guy is like a machine.

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:02 PM
On Escude:

seems like you have something personal against Djoker. :devil:
Free advice, buddy: Do not celebrate when Djoker loses! Why? Because there will be more moments when you'll have to moan (when he wins). So, this is just to save yourself more trouble.

P.S. No need to pay for this. :)

You're new here so I'll tell you > no, he doesn't. He is just one good sensless:rolleyes: Scot and good friend.

Mechlan
05-03-2009, 10:18 PM
Expected result. Very impressive 3 weeks for Nadal.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 10:18 PM
On Escude:



You're new here so I'll tell you > no, he doesn't. He is just one good sensless:rolleyes: Scot and good friend.

oh, yeah? And how do you know that? Are you him? His attorney? Or I should discard what he said (he mentioned Djokovic's family in a bad context!?) and take into the account what you're saying? Just b/c you're "old" here?? LOl...great laugh. Thx for that.

and yeah, here for you too:

Free advice, buddy: Do not celebrate when Djoker loses! Why? Because there will be more moments when you'll have to moan (when he wins). So, this is just to save yourself more trouble.

shotgun
05-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Didn't think Nadal would be able to win 3 tournaments in three consecutive weeks (although he did get a W.O. in Barcelona against a potentially dangerous opponent). He already did the hardest thing, RG is already in the bag and he will most likely win Madrid, which would make this more impressive than Muster's 1995 clay season.

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 10:22 PM
seems like you have something personal against Djoker. :devil:
Free advice, buddy: Do not celebrate when Djoker loses! Why? Because there will be more moments when you'll have to moan (when he wins). So, this is just to save yourself more trouble.

P.S. No need to pay for this. :)Welcome back Aloimeh :wavey:

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:24 PM
oh, yeah? And how do you know that? Are you him? His attorney? Or I should discard what he said (he mentioned Djokovic's family in a bad context!?) and take into the account what you're saying? Just b/c you're "old" here?? LOl...great laugh. Thx for that.

and yeah, here for you too:

Free advice, buddy: Do not celebrate when Djoker loses! Why? Because there will be more moments when you'll have to moan (when he wins). So, this is just to save yourself more trouble.

Free advice, put away this great/famous 'horse' from your avy. You're disgrace for Knez Mihajlo. 'Buddy'.

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:25 PM
Welcome back Aloimeh :wavey:

No, it's not. Think!

Har-Tru
05-03-2009, 10:25 PM
Not the best tennis from either player. Djokovic losing it at some important points, and those weird brain cramps at SP from Nadal... but hey, it's understandable. Three tourneys on three weeks... not easy for anyone, not even for him.

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 10:26 PM
No, it's not. Think!Well which other mental asylums have internet !!!??

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:29 PM
See where you should see.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 10:32 PM
On Escude:



You're new here so I'll tell you > no, he doesn't. He is just one good sensless:rolleyes: Scot and good friend.

Free advice, put away this great/famous 'horse' from your avy. You're disgrace for Knez Mihajlo. 'Buddy'.

ohh, i c! You wanna say you know what "disgrace" means. Nice. :)
How long did it take you to learn that?

homogenius
05-03-2009, 10:32 PM
What a bad game from Djokovic at 5-5 (and that dropshot in the tie-break :retard:)but he made it competitive for one set and gave a good fight.

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:34 PM
What a bad game from Djokovic at 5-5 (and that dropshot in the tie-break :retard:)but he made it competitive for one set and gave a good fight.

All dropshots were moronic. ATP should allow Novak 1 dropshot per tournament. Most.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 10:38 PM
Well which other mental asylums have internet !!!??

Manon, ie (he) your friend from Scotland?

miura
05-03-2009, 10:39 PM
ohh, i c! You wanna say you know what "disgrace" means. Nice. :)
How long did it take you to learn that?
:retard:

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:41 PM
Martin :yeah:

Manon
05-03-2009, 10:42 PM
Manon, ie (he) your friend from Scotland?

We're both from Zanzibar.

~Maya~
05-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Good job ruining the relatively nice thread

why,marat,why?
05-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Honestly, why is everyone even surprised at this point?

Mr. Oracle
05-03-2009, 10:45 PM
so, what was great there? Fact that he lost entire final match? Fact that he went into TB in the first set? And lost it heavily there? Or that he lost second set 2:6? Or that he doubled error on his own break point?? Or that he smashed his racket several times, severely damaging it last time?

I would appreciate your explanation.

Well if you consider that most players roll into a fetal position as soon as they get on the court against Nadal, it is AMAZING to see a player that is not afraid of him, and take him a lot farther then other players. A tie break in the first set shows what a great player Nole truly is as most players can only dream about taking Nadal that far. Not only that but he won a set against Nadal 6-1 just a few weeks ago! Most players can only dream to be as amazing a player as Nole. Once he matures, and gets his on court antics under control like lendl or sampras, he will be an unstoppable juggernaut.

Consider the following:

1) Smarter than Murray and a better tactician,
2) More aggressive and powerful than Federer,
2) Unafraid of Nadal, and able to take him the distance on clay - should continue to spank his ass on hard courts.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 10:45 PM
We're both from Zanzibar.

Now I believe you. Zanzibar would make sense.

nadal il mito
05-03-2009, 10:50 PM
Well if you consider that most players roll into a fetal position as soon as they get on the court against Nadal, it is AMAZING to see a player that is not afraid of him, and take him a lot farther then other players. A tie break in the first set shows what a great player Nole truly is as most players can only dream about taking Nadal that far. Not only that but he won a set against Nadal 6-1 just a few weeks ago! Most players can only dream to be as amazing a player as Nole. Once he matures, and gets his on court antics under control like lendl or sampras, he will be an unstoppable juggernaut.

Consider the following:

1) Smarter than Murray and a better tactician,
2) More aggressive and powerful than Federer,
2) Unafraid of Nadal, and able to take him the distance on clay - should continue to spank his ass on hard courts.


poor words from poor and smartless guy. shut up please.

Surcouf
05-03-2009, 10:51 PM
Well if you consider that most players roll into a fetal position as soon as they get on the court against Nadal, it is AMAZING to see a player that is not afraid of him, and take him a lot farther then other players. A tie break in the first set shows what a great player Nole truly is as most players can only dream about taking Nadal that far. Not only that but he won a set against Nadal 6-1 just a few weeks ago! Most players can only dream to be as amazing a player as Nole. Once he matures, and gets his on court antics under control like lendl or sampras, he will be an unstoppable juggernaut.

Consider the following:

1) Smarter than Murray and a better tactician,
2) More aggressive and powerful than Federer,
2) Unafraid of Nadal, and able to take him the distance on clay - should continue to spank his ass on hard courts.

Are you watching the same ATP than the others?

Not only Murray is by far the better tactician, but Federer is easily more powerful than Djokovic.

Then, Nadal is 8-0 against Djokovic on clay and 3-4 on hardcourt, with the last win. It seems that Novak is the one being spanked by Nadal on clay, while Nadal is very competitive with the Serbian on hard.

You are wrong on all your three proposition. You were maybe being sarcastic?

PS: Djokovic did not even win a set 6-1 at Monte Carlo against Nadal. But Nadal did it already two times this year.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 10:52 PM
Well if you consider that most players roll into a fetal position as soon as they get on the court against Nadal, it is AMAZING to see a player that is not afraid of him, and take him a lot farther then other players. A tie break in the first set shows what a great player Nole truly is as most players can only dream about taking Nadal that far. Not only that but he won a set against Nadal 6-1 just a few weeks ago! Most players can only dream to be as amazing a player as Nole. Once he matures, and gets his on court antics under control like lendl or sampras, he will be an unstoppable juggernaut.

Consider the following:

1) Smarter than Murray and a better tactician,
2) More aggressive and powerful than Federer,
2) Unafraid of Nadal, and able to take him the distance on clay - should continue to spank his ass on hard courts.

thanks for the answer. However you confused something, and that explains what you originally said. Nole is the great player, which you confused when called that his play against Rafa was "great". You know, great players not always deliver a great play.

BTW, I agree with the most of your quated post. To add: today, Djokovic had a great play at a times, yet his overall deliverance was not great. Far from it.

«Ivan»
05-03-2009, 10:55 PM
oh, yeah? And how do you know that? Are you him? His attorney? Or I should discard what he said (he mentioned Djokovic's family in a bad context!?) and take into the account what you're saying? Just b/c you're "old" here?? LOl...great laugh. Thx for that.

and yeah, here for you too:

Free advice, buddy: Do not celebrate when Djoker loses! Why? Because there will be more moments when you'll have to moan (when he wins). So, this is just to save yourself more trouble.

i'll accept you.I'm :drool:ing for studs like you.you're my gye.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 11:00 PM
........... but Federer is easily more powerful than Djokovic.


unfortuantelly, the facts are trashing your statemnet! hehe...have you watched Rome S/F? That was yesterday when Djoker applied some power of his onto TMF.
Ohh, yeah... have you watched Miami s/f? 'f course not.

Manon
05-03-2009, 11:02 PM
Kitinov, all forgiven, come back.

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 11:06 PM
Are you watching the same ATP than the others?

Not only Murray is by far the better tactician, b...........

Can you tell what's the score between Djoker and Murray? Your help here is highly appreciated. :)

Manon
05-03-2009, 11:09 PM
Just great > with Rafa aproval (last time).

9SpGim0gsoY

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 11:09 PM
Kitinov, all forgiven, come back.

seems like you (and your Scot) had had a lot of "friends" (in here). :devil:
And they're all long gone as of now!! :eek: Good job (of yours). :)

Garo
05-03-2009, 11:16 PM
All dropshots were moronic. ATP should allow Novak 1 dropshot per tournament. Most.

Eh, I don't know. He'll still find a way to use it at the worst time possible.

habibko
05-03-2009, 11:16 PM
great spirits in the match, the ceremony and for the most part of this thread, well done Djokovic, he is on the right track that's for sure :yeah:

I don't think winning Madrid will affect Nadal that much going into RG, the man is winning his matches more easily than ever, he isn't grinding them out as he used to do, a scary prospect...

Manon
05-03-2009, 11:17 PM
Hush (not you Habib), this 'new' one.

habibko
05-03-2009, 11:28 PM
Hush (not you Habib), this 'new' one.

cheers Misha :D

wenty
05-03-2009, 11:34 PM
Rafa you're a beast :D Congratulations :bigclap: Well fought Djokovic :worship:

HeretiC
05-03-2009, 11:45 PM
seems like you (and your Scot) had had a lot of "friends" (in here). :devil:
And they're all long gone as of now!! :eek: Good job (of yours). :)

Now I believe you. Zanzibar would make sense.

You are not building a good image for yourself. Lousy start...:o

w78dexon_y
05-03-2009, 11:52 PM
You are not building a good image for yourself. Lousy start...:o

ohh, Misha, beside Skot,:devil: now your friends are Habib :devil:and Heretic:devil:!
That makes sense!
Sort of clan or who:devil::devil::devil:? AntiDjoker gang.

iSzavay.
05-04-2009, 12:07 AM
Nole :rolleyes: can't anyone get a set off him??? I wonder if he'll even lose a set at Roland Garros :bolt:.

Is it true that Andy is number three now?

DhammaTiger
05-04-2009, 12:11 AM
Rafa is the best:yippee: Vamos Rafa !!!!!

Florida
05-04-2009, 01:49 AM
Well I sincerely hope Andy Murray does win a slam and I hope he wins Wimbledon, because the hopes of Great Britain are put on his shoulders...... Not sure when that will happen though with Rafa, Federer and Novak around but I sincerely hope it will happen! As for Andy! He's done great on the HC and he will be recognized with and #3 ranking on the 11th of May, but from that point on he has a lot to prove! Where does he actually stand? His first test will be defending Madrid, which will be played on clay and last year when he won it it was played on HC. In any event the only player that has noting to prove at this point is Rafa, because he already proved that he is in a differnt league. Let' just wait and see who brigs what to the table for the rest of the season. Kudos to a "new tennis era" with Nadal being in command!!!!!!

Forehander
05-04-2009, 02:39 AM
Nadal didn't play that well in my opinion. I don't know why so many people are calling it such a great match. The first set's score should have been much easier but Nadal choked many times and made stupid errors. Well it was good that he came through with the tie break and won the first set to break down Djokovoic in the 2nd. Nothing matters in the end, as long as Nadal wins :)

sawan66278
05-04-2009, 02:46 AM
All I can say is that Novak showed real class today in defeat...and its wonderful to see such respect and friendship among the big three: Rafa, Novak, and Andy. Um...paging Mr. Federer...I hope the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship award winner is taking notes.