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Does Anyone Else Really Enjoy Watching The Demise of Federer?

Perfection
05-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

cocrcici
05-02-2009, 11:29 PM
:scratch:
:scared:

Johnny Groove
05-02-2009, 11:34 PM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

Sunset of Age
05-02-2009, 11:34 PM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

And that's just normal for a sane human being...

habibko
05-02-2009, 11:37 PM
http://quiz.devbook.com/images/badges/how_evil/how_evil-mostevil.jpg

guptaji
05-02-2009, 11:41 PM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

Same here.

Awesome thread by the way!

Bazooka
05-02-2009, 11:43 PM
It's happening too fast for my taste...

Burrow
05-02-2009, 11:44 PM
You are probably experiencing what I will when Nadal, Djokovic and Murray are losing more often in a few years. :)

Matt01
05-02-2009, 11:45 PM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

Same here.


Same here.

the graduate
05-02-2009, 11:55 PM
He is jinxed remember Dijana said that the King is finished before he even lost to Joke,something sinister happened to him and I also fear for Rafa.The good part is the white magic will not work on Rafa....

Bilbo
05-02-2009, 11:59 PM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

you act like as if federer's decline started today. it's already since over a year.

~*BGT*~
05-03-2009, 12:02 AM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

x 2

FedFan_2007
05-03-2009, 12:04 AM
Anyone who cares about tennis knows that Federer declining/choking/whatever like this is bad for tennis. I'm sure the MurrayTARDS, NoleTARDS and NadalTARDS are in paroxysms of joy, but they are not true tennis fans.

Ozone
05-03-2009, 12:05 AM
I dont get why everyone hates Federer. He is a classy guy who is very respectful and doesnt do anything bad to get haters. I guess all you haters dont like winning and suceedi9ng in life.

habibko
05-03-2009, 12:15 AM
I dont get why everyone hates Federer. He is a classy guy who is very respectful and doesnt do anything bad to get haters. I guess all you haters dont like winning and suceedi9ng in life.

one word: Envy.

JM-Del-Potro
05-03-2009, 12:20 AM
If Federer would have not dominated for so many years, Nadal would have not became better than he was past years.

JM-Del-Potro
05-03-2009, 12:21 AM
And we're still speaking about the number 2,not even a non-top 10 player so far...

Titi
05-03-2009, 12:23 AM
No I dont.Plus in reality Nadal is the only player who can consistently beat him, until we are fully convinced about Murrays credentials over a 2 week spell of 5 set matches.I'm still confident Fed will win one grand slam this year.

DhammaTiger
05-03-2009, 12:29 AM
This is a pathetic thread. Even I who am a diehard Rafa fan, don't like what's happening to Federer's game. i just hope he gets back on track soon.

FedFan_2007
05-03-2009, 12:30 AM
one word: Envy.

Of course. Nobody can ever play like Federer, so they hate him.

Mike Tyson
05-03-2009, 12:31 AM
I just had a party because of the downfall of federer.

OddJob
05-03-2009, 12:36 AM
Loving every minute of it!:devil: I have all his losses this year on my DVR.

Snoo Foo
05-03-2009, 12:38 AM
I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

it's not like you're enjoying watching him declare bankruptcy or get arrested for drunk driving or breaking an ankle or something, it's just sports. i love it when the red sox lose and i don't feel bad about it, i'm sure there are thousands upon thousands of people who really enjoy seeing the yankees have a shitty season, so what?

chowdahead25
05-03-2009, 12:40 AM
Demise includes 19 straight semis in Gslams.
Hes in a slump.
Its hard to watch, but I think he will battle through it.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-03-2009, 12:41 AM
Indiference since I think he will play until he get 15 slams. As for Rafa, I will be happier.

sammy01
05-03-2009, 12:45 AM
i guess its never nice to see a champion lose his grip on tennis, but if he does regain any past glories then they will become sweeter. you could see last year at the us open he really wanted it to prove a point, not just to add to the record books, different reasons for winning will make the jubilation feel different/better.

dzoni
05-03-2009, 12:45 AM
I'm loving every minute of it, as well. Pete Sampras was such a bigger man than him, it'd be a disgrace to have him lose his record to an arrogant has-been that Federer is.

star
05-03-2009, 12:45 AM
Looks like a double account thread starter. :lol:

Sunset of Age
05-03-2009, 12:45 AM
This is a pathetic thread. Even I who am a diehard Rafa fan, don't like what's happening to Federer's game. i just hope he gets back on track soon.

Ali :hug:
What's happening to Fed right now will happen to all top players in the future, as it has always happened in the past. I can only hope for the fans of those players to not have as many nasties gloating at it as Fed has right now. What comes around, goes around...

Titi
05-03-2009, 12:46 AM
Demise includes 19 straight semis in Gslams.
Hes in a slump.
Its hard to watch, but I think he will battle through it.

I feel the same. But the man is a great...just unsure whether he can gear himself up for the weekly grind when he's totally set on GS titles now.

His battles with Rafa at Wimbledon were classic.. the backhand down the line to save match point last year in the 4th set.Wow!I feel a couple more GS's are well within his reach.

shotgun
05-03-2009, 12:47 AM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

I feel sorry for starving children in Africa, not for Federer.

l_mac
05-03-2009, 12:53 AM
I don't care.

All I care about is my favourites winning :inlove:

star
05-03-2009, 12:56 AM
Ali :hug:
What's happening to Fed right now will happen to all top players in the future, as it has always happened in the past. I can only hope for the fans of those players to not have as many nasties gloating at it as Fed has right now. What comes around, goes around...

Very true. It's something a lot of Fed Fans didn't understand a few years ago.


This thread starter has 175 post since 2006 and has started nearly 30 threads. Amazing.

Jimnik
05-03-2009, 01:00 AM
Very glad the years of domination are over. I was never a Federer fan but even if one of my favourites started dominating I'd probably get bored after a while.

moon language
05-03-2009, 01:07 AM
I like seeing Mr. Entitlement taken down a notch, sure.

From a purely sporting perspective it's a shame to see his great game deteriorating though and I hope he can get some consistency going again.

azinna
05-03-2009, 01:12 AM
I was indifferent to him at the beginning, didn't like him enough to enjoy his domination. Also, didn't like that the press and players alike were worshiping him, mistaking the court for some sort of chapel. So everything last year up until Aussie Open '09 was the right balance, I think.

But he's collapsing now with regularity. Not good for any fan who sets aside time and/or money to watch the big matches.

Stefwhit
05-03-2009, 01:17 AM
If Roger was humble, not full of excuses, and didn't act like a spoiled bratty eight year old, then maybe I wouldn't enjoy watchin' him lose so much. I'll keep enjoying each beat down until he's beaten into submission and humility.
http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/resize.aspx?w=180&h=180&img=D:\WebSites\WebFarm\TMS\Roma\\2\public\\News\\ delusionefederer_e7j0016.jpg
“I think the last few years it's helped Rafa playing me before Paris,” said the 13-time Grand Slam champion when the subject of the French Open came up. “Just that he knew maybe a bit more what to expect from me, whereas you know exactly what you're going to get with Rafa. So I think it maybe worked more in his favour the last few years. We'll see how Madrid turns out.When I read that, it reads like Fed is saying that the reason Rafa keeps beating him at Paris is because each year Rafa gets a preview of Roger's strategy (in the earlier clay tournaments,) so that when they meet up in the finals of RG, Rafa is ready. :haha::spit::haha:

Oh Roger...:o

«Ivan»
05-03-2009, 01:18 AM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

oh my dear favorite.i have to count now.you are 19 so you did at your 8 or 9?

chowdahead25
05-03-2009, 01:25 AM
I feel the same. But the man is a great...just unsure whether he can gear himself up for the weekly grind when he's totally set on GS titles now.

His battles with Rafa at Wimbledon were classic.. the backhand down the line to save match point last year in the 4th set.Wow!I feel a couple more GS's are well within his reach.

I see what you mean.
It just is irritating when people say hes toast when hes lost to 2 people in grand slams the last what, 4 years?

federernadalfan
05-03-2009, 01:35 AM
no, not enjoying at all
i don't mind him losing sometimes, but lately he's been on a losing streak against djoko, murray and rafa :sad: it's becoming almost predictable

SheepleBuster
05-03-2009, 01:56 AM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

I am sorry to say this, but only a very sick person "enjoys" the trials and failings of other human beings. What has Federer done to you? Has he killed a family member of yours. I have been a Fed fan, a Nadal fan, and now coming around with Murray. I have never ever wished Nadal fail so Fed could win his 14th slams. It's just sick. Even Roddick, who I hate very much as a human being for being so arrogant, I have never enjoyed his losses because he is failing. Somewhere i have always pulled for Andy to learn to respect the fans, the umpires and himself. You are a sick individual. I am sorry to say.

andylovesaustin
05-03-2009, 02:02 AM
I'm not happy about it.

I prefer delusional Pete to arrogant Roger.

Pete... I dunno. He just seemed to handle himself a lot better than Roger. Pete never made me (at least) feel sorry for him. He always seemed to believe in himself.

I miss Pete. I wasn't even a fan of his when he was playing, but I miss Pete now... and Guga. I miss Guga. I always loved Guga.

I miss Andre, too.

I really like Rafa though.

prima donna
05-03-2009, 02:06 AM
Typical plebeian mentality.

dumdidum
05-03-2009, 02:10 AM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

This.

Farenhajt
05-03-2009, 02:47 AM
While he was still "up there", I thought I could never wait for him to start going down. But now, as it's happening, I'm... indifferent, frankly. It does feel a bit sad in a general way, but I'm interested in seeing him retire, so those two kinda cancel each other out.

marvin0211
05-03-2009, 02:53 AM
I am sorry to say this, but only a very sick person "enjoys" the trials and failings of other human beings. What has Federer done to you? Has he killed a family member of yours. I have been a Fed fan, a Nadal fan, and now coming around with Murray. I have never ever wished Nadal fail so Fed could win his 14th slams. It's just sick. Even Roddick, who I hate very much as a human being for being so arrogant, I have never enjoyed his losses because he is failing. Somewhere i have always pulled for Andy to learn to respect the fans, the umpires and himself. You are a sick individual. I am sorry to say.

so I guess there is a lot of fans of a certain player who are sick individuals huh wishing injury, illness:) and other afflictions. At least the starter of thread just expressing his honest opinion and not wishing bad on Roger Federer

star
05-03-2009, 02:55 AM
I am sorry to say this, but only a very sick person "enjoys" the trials and failings of other human beings. What has Federer done to you? Has he killed a family member of yours. I have been a Fed fan, a Nadal fan, and now coming around with Murray. I have never ever wished Nadal fail so Fed could win his 14th slams. It's just sick. Even Roddick, who I hate very much as a human being for being so arrogant, I have never enjoyed his losses because he is failing. Somewhere i have always pulled for Andy to learn to respect the fans, the umpires and himself. You are a sick individual. I am sorry to say.


You do understand that the thread starter is just adopting a position for trolling purposes, don't you?

superslam77
05-03-2009, 02:57 AM
decline...making better rounds than last year at everywhere and still no 2 in the world...GS finalist everywhere.

i want a decline where i make SF at every MS and F and every GS...
god this is so stupid.

BaselineSmash
05-03-2009, 03:03 AM
Federer d. Del Potro 6-3 6-0 6-0.

Roger Federer R.I.P.

bad gambler
05-03-2009, 03:03 AM
No

Johnny Groove
05-03-2009, 03:05 AM
oh my dear favorite.i have to count now.you are 19 so you did at your 8 or 9?

Can someone help me translate this?

star
05-03-2009, 03:10 AM
Can someone help me translate this?

Linda might be around -- don't think so -- but she's the expert translator of Chooperese.

Send her a pm if you really want to know. :)

Hola Mr. SK
05-03-2009, 03:31 AM
Instead of his tennis part, I love watching the demise of his arrogance. An arrogance free Federer would be welcome.

Nastasie
05-03-2009, 03:32 AM
it's not like you're enjoying watching him declare bankruptcy or get arrested for drunk driving or breaking an ankle or something, it's just sports. i love it when the red sox lose and i don't feel bad about it, i'm sure there are thousands upon thousands of people who really enjoy seeing the yankees have a shitty season, so what?

Ah, perspective. Thank you.

It is just sports. It's not about "the suffering of a human being", sheesh. The guy is an athlete. Before he spent years winning the vast majority of the tournaments he entered, he spent years being like every other athlete, i.e., losing more often than not. If losing is causing him horrible emotional distress, he's in the wrong business.

Also, he's been in the last four GS finals, won one and took two to five sets, so I'm not entirely sure what this demise is the OP speaks of.

Henry Kaspar
05-03-2009, 03:33 AM
I always enjoy seeing Federer play. Noone plays tennis like him. As long as he is reasonably competitive -- say top 20 -- I'd like him to stay around.

eck
05-03-2009, 03:37 AM
It used to be funny when he lost to Canas and Karlovic...
But now it's just getting a bit sad.

dark_ambient
05-03-2009, 03:39 AM
Mods, please drag this thread into some forgotten dungeon and torture it to death. Thanks!

JoshDragon
05-03-2009, 04:03 AM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

No. I'm not enjoying it. I'm kind of glad that he's not winning all of the majors now but it was painful to watch the French Open 2008 finals or the Djokovic vs Federer match in Miami.

out_here_grindin
05-03-2009, 04:14 AM
I feel the same. But the man is a great...just unsure whether he can gear himself up for the weekly grind when he's totally set on GS titles now.

His battles with Rafa at Wimbledon were classic.. the backhand down the line to save match point last year in the 4th set.Wow!I feel a couple more GS's are well within his reach.

No matter what happens to Federer from here on out, I will always remember that backhand.

morningglory
05-03-2009, 04:52 AM
Really, I dont have anything against the man per se, it's just some of his fans could do with some humility now and then (that is, those like jedifed inc.) So yeah... I enjoy watching Federer lose more often (he used to be nigh-untouchable) mainly just to see his cocky fans' reactions... nothing against fed himself :lol:
Also, I LOVE it when Fed gets rid of the "gentlemanly" facade and starts smashing rackets. He was never the stately, gracious gentleman people make him to be. He's just your typical athelete, with some ego and some bad-mannered moments.

vamosinator
05-03-2009, 05:04 AM
I dont get why everyone hates Federer. He is a classy guy who is very respectful and doesnt do anything bad to get haters. I guess all you haters dont like winning and suceedi9ng in life.

I've never met anyone who liked Federer, I've met people who like his ballet groundstrokes but even they admit he's not a good person based on his press conferences.

Rafa = Fed Killa
05-03-2009, 05:08 AM
Federers arrogance was going to make him pay some day.

All the insults Federer said to young players would bite him in the ass when those kids grew up.

Rafa, Nole, Murray will destroy Federer for all the stupid, arrogant and ignorant statements he made.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-03-2009, 05:08 AM
Now we know how people are by its press conferences. :worship:

Nadaltards arrogance will pay one day also. ;) You are recycling everything you used to not like.

Laba
05-03-2009, 05:12 AM
Enjoying it? Hmm, nah. It was interesting when he started to lose a match or two that he wouldn't have used to but now it's just hard to watch and I'm not even a fan of his. Wouldn't wish this upon anyone but he has continued to ultimately make it harder and harder for himself with his attitude.

Chloe le Bopper
05-03-2009, 05:14 AM
Federer's finished and now sucks? I missed that memo.

jmf07
05-03-2009, 05:23 AM
I don't enjoy the demises of people but this one is enjoyable considering the way he acts. But at the end of the day he still is still one of the best players who has won alot of prestgious tournaments, prizemoney and awards. He has a wife and a kid on the way and has been around the world, attended numerous events and had some amazing experiences. But yet he carries on the way he does as though equalling the grand slam record means everything to him and he doesn't care about anything else. Think about some players as juniors who were headed for big things but were plagued by injuries who are now resigned to some job just in order to survive. Or the journeymen who are just happy to qualify for a atp tour event let alone a grand slam but yet Federer who has won 13 of these things carries on like the way he does when he is only making the final of these events.

luie
05-03-2009, 05:23 AM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.
Federer is more talented than Gasquet.:devil:Ha.Ha. Fed's decline is better than gasquet prime. HA!HA! Go cry somewhere else.

vamosinator
05-03-2009, 05:24 AM
Now we know how people are by its press conferences. :worship:

Nadaltards arrogance will pay one day also. ;) You are recycling everything you used to not like.

If Federer is arrogant in his press conferences, imagine how arrogant he would be in person and to his servants.... I mean, people try to look nicer in their press conferences.

Fans aren't arrogant, they're just hyped up about their favorite players, nothing wrong with that. That isn't arrogance, arrogance is when you talk up YOURSELF not when you talk up another person....

vamosinator
05-03-2009, 05:27 AM
I don't enjoy the demises of people but this one is enjoyable considering the way he acts. But at the end of the day he still is still one of the best players who has won alot of prestgious tournaments, prizemoney and awards. He has a wife and a kid on the way and has been around the world, attended numerous events and had some amazing experiences. But yet he carries on the way he does as though equalling the grand slam record means everything to him and he doesn't care about anything else. Think about some players as juniors who were headed for big things but were plagued by injuries who are now resigned to some job just in order to survive. Or the journeymen who are just happy to qualify for a atp tour event let alone a grand slam but yet Federer who has won 13 of these things carries on like the way he does when he is only making the final of these events.

Exactly, because Federer doesn't really love tennis, he just loves winning and getting records, whereas Nadal clearly loves tennis and isn't playing for records, Nadal plays to reach his full potential so he always talks about 'trying my hardest'. They are polar opposite personalities.

Lourdes
05-03-2009, 05:28 AM
Enjoy isn't the word. I'm intrigued at his losses lately since he's been so strong and automatic. Competition is good and players who have talent and can back it up rising is never bad. Fed will have to adjust.

pogotheorist
05-03-2009, 05:31 AM
Instead of his tennis part, I love watching the demise of his arrogance. An arrogance free Federer would be welcome.
Denial collapse watch. A fascination sets in like watching a huge bubble blowing among bushes...

As for "what decline?" - please. This year, of the Big 4, Fed is:

4th in the race
only one with no titles
0-5 against the others (with losing streaks of 5, 4 and 1)
only one with no Masters finals (Nadal 3, Nole 3, Muzza 2)

Bright spot is the AO final... had Berdych put him away in R16 after going two sets up, he'd be #4 right now.

In his glory years, his pre-clay-season titles were:
2004--Australian Open, Dubai, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells
2005--Doha, Rotterdam, Dubai, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, ATP Masters Series Miami
2006--Doha, Australian Open, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, ATP Masters Series Miami
2007--Australian Open, Dubai
(2008 & 2009: none)

So... that decline.

luie
05-03-2009, 05:36 AM
Denial collapse watch. A fascination sets in like watching a huge bubble blowing among bushes...

As for "what decline?" - please. This year, of the Big 4, Fed is:

4th in the race
only one with no titles
0-5 against the others (with losing streaks of 5, 4 and 1)
only one with no Masters finals (Nadal 3, Nole 3, Muzza 2)

Bright spot is the AO final... had Berdych put him away in R16 after going two sets up, he'd be #4 right now.

In his glory years, his pre-clay-season titles were:
2004--Australian Open, Dubai, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells
2005--Doha, Rotterdam, Dubai, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, ATP Masters Series Miami
2006--Doha, Australian Open, ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, ATP Masters Series Miami
2007--Australian Open, Dubai
(2008 & 2009: none)

So... that decline.
Murray still cannot take the #2 spot from the ageing lion because he suck on clay.:sad:

andreevforehand
05-03-2009, 05:52 AM
it's not like you're enjoying watching him declare bankruptcy or get arrested for drunk driving or breaking an ankle or something, it's just sports. i love it when the red sox lose and i don't feel bad about it, i'm sure there are thousands upon thousands of people who really enjoy seeing the yankees have a shitty season, so what?

Agreed (even though I'm a Red Sox fan), it's just sports, nothing wrong with enjoying seeing someone lose. And as to why someone might enjoy seeing him lose, it's not just "envy," it's also because he can be a bit of an arrogant prick, plus a crybaby (literally and figuratively) to boot. And as for Roger's demise being bad for the sport, well that's his fault not ours, there's no reason for us not to enjoy it. I personally thought it was pretty boring when the only possible finalists in any grand slam were Roger or Rafa. Yeah he has his good qualities, but I definitely think it was time for a change.

I'm loving every minute of it, as well. Pete Sampras was such a bigger man than him, it'd be a disgrace to have him lose his record to an arrogant has-been that Federer is.

I also agree with this. Sampras had a much better personality/mentality than Federer, who tends to whine/cry when things don't go his way. And to those who say that Sampras didn't have a personality, I'm sure he does, he just didn't like to prance around in front of the media with $800 haircuts and fancy clothes. He recognized that his job was to play tennis, not be some media star. I wouldn't call myself a Fed hater, I just think that he wore himself a bit thin.

vamosinator
05-03-2009, 06:05 AM
^ Yeah Sampras was cool, he seemed intelligent in how he spoke.

CyBorg
05-03-2009, 06:10 AM
No, it sucks. It's just going from one extreme (all winning) to another (no winning).

There was also a lot of beauty to Roger's domination - all-around excellence. Now, he's just a mess and it's not easy to watch.

You always wish a champion declines gradually and gracefully. It's easier on the eyes.

Most of the time they do unless there's a major injury. Roger's struggles are strange.

FlavorNuts
05-03-2009, 06:12 AM
He was single handedly responsible for the worst era of tennis in the open era.
Actually no, the blame rests on the shoulders of the rest of the field for allowing him to win 13 grand slams. It's amazing how you throw in 3 good players, and all of a sudden Federer is a nobody. If only they had come along sooner.

Art&Soul
05-03-2009, 06:15 AM
I've never met anyone who liked Federer, I've met people who like his ballet groundstrokes but even they admit he's not a good person based on his press conferences.

And Federer wins favorite player by fans every year and even in MTF while Nadull wins none. Poor Nadull, even when he is #1 in the world and win every major tournament, he still comes second in the fan favorite award and players not vote for him in ATP sportmanship award, how unpopular this number #1 can be :o So I guess ass picking, taking time between points,ugly moonballing style ..that makes him so dislike :devil:

andreevforehand
05-03-2009, 06:21 AM
And Federer wins favorite player by fans every year and even in MTF while Nadull wins none. Poor Nadull, even when he is #1 in the world and win every major tournament, he still comes second in the fan favorite award and players not vote for him in ATP sportmanship award, how unpopular this number #1 can be :o So I guess ass picking, taking time between points,ugly moonballing style ..that makes him so dislike :devil:

Moonballing, hah. I wish I could hit 90mph moonballs that kicked 7 feet off the court.

W!MBLEDON
05-03-2009, 06:37 AM
I'm loving every minute of it, as well. Pete Sampras was such a bigger man than him, it'd be a disgrace to have him lose his record to an arrogant has-been that Federer is.

loving the serbian flag

vamosinator
05-03-2009, 07:55 AM
And Federer wins favorite player by fans every year and even in MTF while Nadull wins none. Poor Nadull, even when he is #1 in the world and win every major tournament, he still comes second in the fan favorite award and players not vote for him in ATP sportmanship award, how unpopular this number #1 can be :o So I guess ass picking, taking time between points,ugly moonballing style ..that makes him so dislike :devil:

Although I'm 100% sure you'll never meet a single person who voted for that fans award for as long as you live:o

pica_pica
05-03-2009, 08:00 AM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.
It sounds horrible (and a bit evil) to get addicted to watching a guy's demise. You should put your focus on good tennis from his opponents, not errors from Fed if you are to cheer against him :hug:

MrChopin
05-03-2009, 08:03 AM
Moonballing, hah. I wish I could hit 90mph moonballs that kicked 7 feet off the court.

You can: buy a babalot (Andreev uses one too!), lift/juice up your hitting arm until you can curl 55(?) pounds, and then follow through over your hitting shoulder while grunting loudly.

***

In response to the original question, I do, but that's because I enjoy watching human talent wither and die.

FedFan
05-03-2009, 08:12 AM
And Federer wins favorite player by fans every year and even in MTF while Nadull wins none. Poor Nadull, even when he is #1 in the world and win every major tournament, he still comes second in the fan favorite award and players not vote for him in ATP sportmanship award, how unpopular this number #1 can be :o So I guess ass picking, taking time between points,ugly moonballing style ..that makes him so dislike :devil:

:worship: Despite all his arrogance he keeps on winning fans favourite and sportmanship awards - in contast to the man, who tries to be humble. ;)

groundstroke
05-03-2009, 08:53 AM
The second the likes of Murray and Nadal - who play anti-tennis started beating him, it's giving tennis the wrong image, the wrong role model to follow (following the likes of Murray and Nadal is not good for the sport).

rafa_maniac
05-03-2009, 08:58 AM
I feel sorry for starving children in Africa, not for Federer.

This.

nkhera1
05-03-2009, 09:01 AM
You can: buy a babalot (Andreev uses one too!), lift/juice up your hitting arm until you can curl 55(?) pounds, and then follow through over your hitting shoulder while grunting loudly.

***

In response to the original question, I do, but that's because I enjoy watching human talent wither and die.

Doubtful

nkhera1
05-03-2009, 09:05 AM
Can we really even call this a demise? This guy is still the number 1, 2 or 3 favorite at any of the grandslams he enters and if he has a big summer can position himself for the number 2 spot. All this talk is premature and should only come up after he starts faltering in the GSs. Most players except for maybe 2 or 3 would kill for the kind of year Federer is having.

vamosinator
05-03-2009, 09:14 AM
It is a full-blown demise because Federer only cares about the Sampras record, so without the record he feels like he failed, so much that he can't help crying in front of everyone. So all the wins have turned out to be a failed career. That 'love of tennis' he talks about is a lie, he doesn't love tennis he loves attention, praise, records, cardigans:o

johnny_dhk
05-03-2009, 09:27 AM
I love every time Federer loses. When he cried out after losing to the greatest player of all time at the Australian Open final, that was the happiest moment of my life.

Benny_Maths
05-03-2009, 09:46 AM
I am sorry to say this, but only a very sick person "enjoys" the trials and failings of other human beings. What has Federer done to you? Has he killed a family member of yours. I have been a Fed fan, a Nadal fan, and now coming around with Murray. I have never ever wished Nadal fail so Fed could win his 14th slams. It's just sick. Even Roddick, who I hate very much as a human being for being so arrogant, I have never enjoyed his losses because he is failing. Somewhere i have always pulled for Andy to learn to respect the fans, the umpires and himself. You are a sick individual. I am sorry to say.

Exactly. What kind of a sicko actually derives pleasure from seeing someone fail? I can understand one's desire for Federer to lose to their favourite player. However, that is distinct from enjoying Federer's losses purely because they represent a shortcoming of his. The O.P. must be a sick and bitter 'female genital'.

As for Federer's so called arrogance, you shouldn't and can't, expect any different from someone who has achieved as at high a level as he has. Anyone who isn't as arrogant as Federer is clearly hasn't achieved as much. And if you cite people from the past as counter examples then you're a moron - clearly achievements from back then weren't publicised to the extent that they are now so they don't mean as much (not talking individual perceptions of levels of achievement here).

GuiroNl
05-03-2009, 10:14 AM
I enjoy the fact that there is a new dynamic in tennis with Federer not winning so much.
But demise is such a strong word for a guy who has his hobby for a job, achieved almost everything you can achieve in his profession, has a wife and a kid on the way, etc.

Action Jackson
05-03-2009, 11:03 AM
Sampras as likable, hahahahahahaha.

rafa_maniac
05-03-2009, 11:08 AM
Exactly. What kind of a sicko actually derives pleasure from seeing someone fail? I can understand one's desire for Federer to lose to their favourite player. However, that is distinct from enjoying Federer's losses purely because they represent a shortcoming of his. The O.P. must be a sick and bitter 'female genital'.

As for Federer's so called arrogance, you shouldn't and can't, expect any different from someone who has achieved as at high a level as he has. Anyone who isn't as arrogant as Federer is clearly hasn't achieved as much. And if you cite people from the past as counter examples then you're a moron - clearly achievements from back then weren't publicised to the extent that they are now so they don't mean as much (not talking individual perceptions of levels of achievement here).

To play devil's advocate here... what kind of sicko actually derives pleasure out of seeing somebody they have likely never met, don't know and have no personal stake in the fortunes of, win? That's just how sport works, and it works both ways I'm afraid :shrug:

Matt01
05-03-2009, 11:08 AM
I love every time Federer loses. When he cried out after losing to the greatest player of all time at the Australian Open final, that was the happiest moment of my life.


:spit:

homogenius
05-03-2009, 11:10 AM
I honestly can't think of a number one ranked athlete who came across as arrogant in interviews. Jordan was very likeable always, so is Tiger Woods, so was Sampras, so is Nadal, so was Schumacher, so were all the big names, they all were great personalities.

Its the wannabe's who come across as arrogant, Federer and Kobe Bryant to name a couple, they just aren't likeable and seem to have the wrong attitude and play for the wrong reasons, they play for praise not for love of the game.

:spit: Good one.

sphiie
05-03-2009, 11:20 AM
I did at the beginning, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him the more it happens.

the same feeling... really sad

Benny_Maths
05-03-2009, 11:25 AM
I honestly can't think of a number one ranked athlete who came across as arrogant in interviews. Jordan was very likeable always, so is Tiger Woods, so was Sampras, so is Nadal, so was Schumacher, so were all the big names, they all were great personalities.

Its the wannabe's who come across as arrogant, Federer and Kobe Bryant to name a couple, they just aren't likeable and seem to have the wrong attitude and play for the wrong reasons, they play for praise not for love of the game.

That's precisely where you and a lot of people go wrong. You don't actually mean that Federer doesn't play for the right reasons. What you really mean is that Federer doesn't play for reasons which you deem to be 'right'. It's fine if you don't like Federer because (in your view) he only plays for records, but don't say it as if it's a universally applicable rule. Players are motivated by different things. Who are you to say what's right and what's wrong?

As for the issue of arrogance, you're deluded if you think any highly successful athelete is meek and humble. The only think that differs between the people you mentioned is how outwardly arrogant they are.

To play devil's advocate here... what kind of sicko actually derives pleasure out of seeing somebody they have likely never met, don't know and have no personal stake in the fortunes of, win? That's just how sport works, and it works both ways I'm afraid :shrug:

The difference lies in the extent of the two things which you attempt to draw parallels between. If one of my favourites loses a match and cries about it, I don't, because I've got more important things to worry about. In fact, posting on an internet message board about the loss is even more of a priority than empathising with what they are possibly feeling after a loss, that's how little I care. Conversely, it's a completely different story if it, and I quote, "feels so good inside to see [a player] failing and sucking." By the OP's own admission, that's an unhealthy and bitter enjoyment, as opposed to simply have a preference for a player to win but being largely indifferent if they lose.

heya
05-03-2009, 11:48 AM
I am sorry to say this, but only a very sick person "enjoys" the trials and failings of other human beings. What has Federer done to you? Has he killed a family member of yours. I have been a Fed fan, a Nadal fan, and now coming around with Murray. I have never ever wished Nadal fail so Fed could win his 14th slams. It's just sick. Even Roddick, who I hate very much as a human being for being so arrogant, I have never enjoyed his losses because he is failing. Somewhere i have always pulled for Andy to learn to respect the fans, the umpires and himself. You are a sick individual. I am sorry to say.I feel charitable... I hope Roddick donates love and cash to you.
:oFake hypocrite just like the self-worshipping asshole player.

Bilbo
05-03-2009, 11:55 AM
can someone explain to me why these kind of topics are coming 1 year too late? was it a huge server lag?

Certinfy
05-03-2009, 11:57 AM
I feel happy & sad at the same time

finishingmove
05-03-2009, 12:01 PM
no, bilbo.

it was brain lag

heya
05-03-2009, 12:22 PM
To play devil's advocate here... what kind of sicko actually derives pleasure out of seeing somebody they have likely never met, don't know and have no personal stake in the fortunes of, win? That's just how sport works, and it works both ways I'm afraid :shrug:Sampras, Agassi, Federer, McEnroe, Todd Martin, Ljubicic, Blake, Hewitt, Serena Williams, Tracy Austin, the majority of US commentators, and even little Mal Washington.

christallh24
05-03-2009, 12:33 PM
No. Makes me cringe, to be honest.

He really does look like he is burning out right before our eyes. Sad.

rafa_maniac
05-03-2009, 12:42 PM
The difference lies in the extent of the two things which you attempt to draw parallels between.

Well naturally, an extreme is an extreme, I'm merely pointing out that neither a strongly positive or strongly negative reaction in sport is based in logic or reason, but in passion, and it runs both ways... as should be expected.

Acer
05-03-2009, 12:43 PM
Retards of the world! Unite in this thread!

Thanos
05-03-2009, 12:50 PM
here

Myrre
05-03-2009, 12:50 PM
It's ironic that the thread starter calls himselfs "Perfection" and he hates the most perfect player (Mr.Perfect) that has graced a tennis court.

heya
05-03-2009, 12:50 PM
That's precisely where you and a lot of people go wrong. You don't actually mean that Federer doesn't play for the right reasons. What you really mean is that Federer doesn't play for reasons which you deem to be 'right'. It's fine if you don't like Federer because (in your view) he only plays for records, but don't say it as if it's a universally applicable rule. Players are motivated by different things. Who are you to say what's right and what's wrong?

As for the issue of arrogance, you're deluded if you think any highly successful athelete is meek and humble. The only think that differs between the people you mentioned is how outwardly arrogant they are.



The difference lies in the extent of the two things which you attempt to draw parallels between. If one of my favourites loses a match and cries about it, I don't, because I've got more important things to worry about. In fact, posting on an internet message board about the loss is even more of a priority than empathising with what they are possibly feeling after a loss, that's how little I care. Conversely, it's a completely different story if it, and I quote, "feels so good inside to see [a player] failing and sucking." By the OP's own admission, that's an unhealthy and bitter enjoyment, as opposed to simply have a preference for a player to win but being largely indifferent if they lose.
Humble doesn't always come with meek, but humbleness is a sign of great intelligence, courage, personality control and restraint.

Humble people are usually entertaining, mature people until the day they die. They don't remind you that they try to look nice, because they're already loved for knowing their own strengths and weaknesses.

A gracious person doesn't repeatedly say that so many people consider him a French Open champ when he had a record of losing serve 5-11 times on all surfaces.

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 12:51 PM
I dont get why everyone hates Federer. He is a classy guy who is very respectful and doesnt do anything bad to get haters. I guess all you haters dont like winning and suceedi9ng in life.its more to do with the pain inflicted on them from the past when Fed has smashed their players and their own dreams

he may suck now - but it will never change what he did to them in the past ;)

NadalSharapova
05-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Its been the best seeing him lose in the french open every year. whats funny is actually he believed he could win it.

now i think he knows the only shot he has at a major is the us open, which he probably will not win.

Ivanatis
05-03-2009, 01:30 PM
goat cheese camouflage :hatoff:

cmurray
05-03-2009, 01:35 PM
goat cheese camouflage :hatoff:

:speakles: Don't bring GOAT cheese into this travesty of a thread. :(

Ivanatis
05-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Sorry.

star
05-03-2009, 04:11 PM
i

he may suck now - but it will never change what he did to them in the past ;)

Very true. But back then -- I rested easy knowing this day would come too.

Fans just have to let the victories be more sweet than the losses are bitter.

tangerine_dream
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
:lol:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=109843

ZakMcCrack
05-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

Persistently gloating over somebody's misfortune isn't exactly a thing to be proud of and definitely no token of nobleness whatsoever...I guess you're just thoroughly ill-affected - but principally it reflects badly on your nature. The hour of bitterness will eventually come and teach you humbleness (humilitas moralis)...otherwise your salvation will be at stake.

FedFan_2007
05-03-2009, 04:44 PM
I love every time Federer loses. When he cried out after losing to the greatest player of all time at the Australian Open final, that was the happiest moment of my life.

You are sick, sick, sick. Please MTF forever.

FedFan_2007
05-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Persistently gloating over somebody's misfortune isn't exactly a thing to be proud of and definitely no token of nobleness whatsoever...I guess you're just thoroughly ill-affected - but principally it reflects badly on your nature. The hour of bitterness will eventually come and teach you humbleness (humilitas moralis)...otherwise your salvation will be at stake.

Karma is going to bite him in the ass!!!

BaselineSmash
05-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Federer's finished and now sucks? I missed that memo.

And Christophe Rochus is a dark horse for RG. Stay informed.

green25814
05-03-2009, 05:04 PM
The only player i've ever enjoyed watching loose is djokovitch.

Anytime a great player (like federer) declines its a sad moment and bad for the sport, so i can only assume you are not a fan of tennis.

FedFan_2007
05-03-2009, 05:08 PM
All the haters in this thread are gonna get bit in the ass, it's karma bitches.

FedFan_2007
05-03-2009, 05:09 PM
The only player i've ever enjoyed watching loose is djokovich.

Anytime a great player (like federer) declines its a sad moment and bad for the sport, so i can only assume you are not a fan of tennis.

I enjoy watching Murray lose because he's an arrogant twat.

star
05-03-2009, 05:16 PM
All the haters in this thread are gonna get bit in the ass, it's karma bitches.

I just don't follow this logic. You make the assumption that others don't know that their favorites are also going to decline and lose. It's something most people realize. It's part of the sport. Players' peaks are very brief. Federer fans got a special treat because their player's peak lasted longer than most -- and was higher than most if not all. It's not karma. It's the inevitable arc of any player's career.

Federer fans can rejoice in the glory of Federer's career. No need to be bitter about a slight decline in form that is inevitable.

green25814
05-03-2009, 05:27 PM
I enjoy watching Murray lose because he's an arrogant twat.

I enjoy novak loosing for similar reasons. If he was in decline however, it would be a different matter and i wouldnt take pleasure from it.

fred perry
05-03-2009, 05:40 PM
I feel sorry for his racquets. :eek:

Corey Feldman
05-03-2009, 05:56 PM
I just don't follow this logic. You make the assumption that others don't know that their favorites are also going to decline and lose. It's something most people realize. It's part of the sport. Players' peaks are very brief. Federer fans got a special treat because their player's peak lasted longer than most -- and was higher than most if not all. It's not karma. It's the inevitable arc of any player's career.

Federer fans can rejoice in the glory of Federer's career. No need to be bitter about a slight decline in form that is inevitable.maybe he was meaning more on the side of the massive boiled egg that will be splatted on yours and many others faces if Fed does win more GS's in future ;) maybe a RG title ;)

star
05-03-2009, 06:02 PM
maybe he was meaning more on the side of the massive boiled egg that will be splatted on yours and many others faces if Fed does win more GS's in future ;) maybe a RG title ;)


How so? I've said for a long time that you can't count out any great champion in a grand slam. If nothing else, both Sampras and Agassi taught me that. I actually think Federer has better chances at grand slams. I think it's quite possible that Federer will win Wimbledon and/or the USO this year.

And we all know that now that Federer's grand scheme is to lose rather than play Nadal before Roland Garros, so you have that to look forward to. ;) ;)

Commander Data
05-03-2009, 06:40 PM
The retardness in this thread is scary.

andreevforehand
05-03-2009, 06:46 PM
You can: buy a babalot (Andreev uses one too!), lift/juice up your hitting arm until you can curl 55(?) pounds, and then follow through over your hitting shoulder while grunting loudly.


Nope still can't do it and neither can you.

Nidhogg
05-03-2009, 06:48 PM
No. I see little point in being happy for an all time-great fading away. Maybe that's ironic, as I've said something about laughing at what Nadal does to his body, but I guess I just don't enjoy his gamestyle (especially not off clay).
How some are or used to be unable to appreciate how good Federer was due to his personality or dominance is beyond me. I just marveled at his incredible style and how good he was.

heya
05-03-2009, 07:59 PM
Personality? I love how arrogant pricks pretend they're posting intellectual analysis about the overrated one. Then, they couldn't post anything except "my genius, I've never seen you play stupid. You're a retard. Die thread," after he lost to better-looking and charismatic players. Poor opponents were so brainwashed by the media that they were reduced to hiding behind tennis promotional activities (charity events, Davis Cup, worship in the Federer churches called Press Conferences). Look what happened to Roddick and Agassi.
Blake creamed himself as soon as Federer sent him a get-well card in 2004. Agassi and Blake managed to make Roddick bow down to them too. :o

Old men like McEnroe scream poems and cried with Federer. Ironic to hear moaning instead of tantrum expletives from Mc. :o

Andi-M
05-03-2009, 09:01 PM
I dislike Federer but I am indifferent to his demise. Its never been a primary concern for me to be ANTI- anyone, Im much happier supporting the players I do like.

Nidhogg
05-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Personality? I love how arrogant pricks pretend they're posting intellectual analysis about the overrated one.

Is this and the rest directed at me? :lol:

Har-Tru
05-03-2009, 10:24 PM
No.

jonathancrane
05-03-2009, 10:26 PM
So this thread is still open?
Mods :worship:

MacTheKnife
05-03-2009, 10:27 PM
Just keep watching tennis, you'll get used to it. It's the only thing certain in this sport, they all start losing.

Swiss Mountain
05-04-2009, 01:13 AM
^ Yeah Sampras was cool, he seemed intelligent in how he spoke.

Yes but he was boring, Federer is never boring and english is his third language, he's fluid in english; he's more witty and more honest, sometimes brutally honest. He has more guts for sure, because his records are more impressive than Sampras and he knows it.
Rafa is very boring in press conference, recently, he couldn't even say what was his favorite movie, so it doesn't look like the new n°1 is a bright guy like Roger.

Pfloyd
05-04-2009, 01:15 AM
No.

But it's kinda hard to pin point the point when Federer started to lose it a bit.

I'd guess losing 2 times to Canas was a start, even though he had a good year afterward.

moon language
05-04-2009, 01:26 AM
Yes but he was boring, Federer is never boring and english is his third language, he's fluid in english; he's more witty and more honest, sometimes brutally honest. He has more guts for sure, because his records are more impressive than Sampras and he knows it.
Rafa is very boring in press conference, recently, he couldn't even say what was his favorite movie, so it doesn't look like the new n°1 is a bright guy like Roger.

Oh no Nadal doesn't have a favorite movie he must be dumb. How do you come up with this stuff?

Swiss Mountain
05-04-2009, 01:42 AM
It's ironic that the thread starter calls himselfs "Perfection" and he hates the most perfect player (Mr.Perfect) that has graced a tennis court.

Amen to that.

Swiss Mountain
05-04-2009, 01:56 AM
Oh no Nadal doesn't have a favorite movie he must be dumb. How do you come up with this stuff?

He could have find one or invented one, all the players had one.
If that's not a clue enough for you, see and listen to his press conferences, you'll understand he's not very bright.

moon language
05-04-2009, 02:15 AM
He could have find one or invented one, all the players had one.
If that's not a clue enough for you, see and listen to his press conferences, you'll understand he's not very bright.

Press conferences are a horrible means to judge such a thing as they are all coached on how to respond so as to cultivate the proper image. And if you think that having a favorite movie is a requisite for being bright then perhaps you are not the highest wattage bulb in the sconce yourself.

finishingmove
05-04-2009, 02:19 AM
http://forums.bit-tech.net/picture.php?albumid=28&pictureid=1502

vamosinator
05-04-2009, 07:20 AM
Yes but he was boring, Federer is never boring and english is his third language, he's fluid in english; he's more witty and more honest, sometimes brutally honest. He has more guts for sure, because his records are more impressive than Sampras and he knows it.
Rafa is very boring in press conference, recently, he couldn't even say what was his favorite movie, so it doesn't look like the new n°1 is a bright guy like Roger.

Federer is the dumbest player in the world "I don't work on my weaknesses only my strengths".....

As for Nadal, his press conferences are what he's complimented on most, people find his accent much more interesting than others, he is very quotable with the "no?" and "very happy for the victory" very trademark. And his mindgames are legendary, refusing to accept that he's the favorite, always talking up the opponent. Federer was never smart enough to do this, and now look at him, put so much pressure on himself he can't control his emotions and appears close to a nervous breakdown:o

w78dexon_y
05-04-2009, 07:34 AM
Is that's why he hates Djoker? Because his downfall started right at his straight sets loss to him at the '08 AO s/f!

Foxy
05-04-2009, 07:37 AM
Loving every minute of it!:devil: I have all his losses this year on my DVR.

Same here. I have all his losses since 2004.

vamosinator
05-04-2009, 07:41 AM
Can't wait to get the 09 Wimbledon on DVR that'll be my favorite all-time.

w78dexon_y
05-04-2009, 07:54 AM
Just keep watching tennis, you'll get used to it. It's the only thing certain in this sport, they all start losing.

Used to what? To see an arrogant former champion who cannot realise he's not the best anymore?? I was watching tennis before, and haven't seen one like Rog. They all admitted and gave credit to their opponents when the credit was due, yet not Roger??!

Rog didn't shake umpire's hand after his two losses this year?!! Once after he lost to Murray in Dubai, and the second after he was devastated by Djoker in Miami?! He also humiliated those poor little ball boys at the side line by throwing the empty water bottles everywhere. And that guy won 5 times fair play award?? Can't stop laughing.

And then after his loss to Wawrinka in this year R16 MC, he stated that 'it doesn't hurt when you lose to a good guy'??? So, what he meant was that Djoker and Rafa are bad guys??! Because he got hurt by losing to them. (Smashed his racket during the game vs Djoker, and was crying and weeping like a baby at the AO ceremony after his loss to Rafa!).

Ohhh, my. BUT, since these examples are the patterns, we'll be watching even more ridiculous behaviour of the "great champion" in the very near future.

prima donna
05-04-2009, 07:59 AM
I was watching tennis before, and haven't seen one like Rog. They all admitted and gave credit to their opponents when the credit was due, yet not Roger??!
.
Roger is entitled to do as he pleases. I'd advise you to get over it.

w78dexon_y
05-04-2009, 08:23 AM
Roger is entitled to do as he pleases. I'd advise you to get over it.

Entitled to make fool of himself?! Great entitlement.

He might, but then all I can do is feel sorry for a badly falling former champ who's losing his composure, if he ever had it.

desigundah
05-04-2009, 08:39 AM
I used to think it was repulsive when people enjoyed watching a greate athelete fall from the heavens and struggle but now I realize that its almost a fundamental part of sport. I'm sure a lot of people are enjoying Federer fall apart but thats just the nature of the game. It happens all the time to everyone. Maybe some boxers retire before they experience it. There have been some tennis players who dont want to ride the storm. Then theres a handful of quarterbacks. But any great athelete who has a true love for the sport and has enough in his tank to persevere through thick and thin will experience it. Recently Michael Jordan comes to mind, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaq, Greg Maddux, Brett Favre, and even Andre Agassi. Some guys just don't have the same, passion drive to stick with it forever. They aren't obsessed with their sport. Something tells me though that Roger will be around for a while because I don't think Roger knows anything but tennis. Its going to be a while before he hangs it up and probably a while before he drops out of the top 10. But who knows, his fall has been at a meteroic pace. At this rate next year he could be struggling to win matches if this trend continues. We'll see.

Jōris
05-04-2009, 08:40 AM
Federer's demise is like when Iraqis toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein, except Saddam was not as arrogant as Fed and probably had a better backhand.

MariaV
05-04-2009, 08:57 AM
To answer the original question: NO, I don't enjoy watching his demise.

Keep going, thread! :yeah:

Avon
05-04-2009, 02:57 PM
Watching him Blub and feel sorry for himself is very sad indeed tennis Greats do not behave in this Manner :bigcry:

marcRD
05-04-2009, 06:07 PM
I am enjoying the bashing he is recieving and the doubt that he will win another grand slam at all, mtf always lives in the present, memory is short and the idea that Federers current lack of confidence/confidence could change when grass season comes or when he is about to win a 6th straight USOPEN seems impossible for people to grasp. I would not be shocked to see him win both Wimbledon and USOPEN this year and I will enjoy reading MTF when that happens.

w78dexon_y
05-04-2009, 08:08 PM
Federers current lack of confidence/confidence could change when grass season comes or when he is about to win a 6th straight USOPEN seems impossible for people to grasp.

you're talking about Federer??
WEll, it's not up to him (his confidence) anymore. Times changed. You live in the past! Wake up.

Now, his chasers are way ahead of him (unlike a year/year and a half ago). His USO win was a more than a fluke!? Not even himself can explain that win. (Djoker screwed up big time there). He was struggling against a qualifier at the Q/F??! Wake up bud.

Now Rog is chasing his chasers!! The worst kind of curse that could've happened!

Steiner is done. Check here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miOwOT1FYig

prima donna
05-04-2009, 08:14 PM
Federer's demise is like when Iraqis toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein
In what sense ? In the sense that the statue which had been erected of Saddam Hussein was toppled by the vulgar, plebeian masses ?

marcRD
05-04-2009, 08:17 PM
you're talking about Federer??
WEll, it's not up to him (his confidence) anymore. Times changed. You live in the past! Wake up.

Now, his chasers are way ahead of him (unlike a year/year and a half ago). His USO win was a more than a fluke!? Not even himself can explain that win. (Djoker screwed up big time there). He was struggling against a qualifier at the Q/F??! Wake up bud.

Now Rog is chasing his chasers!! The worst kind of curse that could've happened!

Steiner is done. Check here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miOwOT1FYig

Federer played a great USOPEN last year, he played great in Wimbledon and he played great in Australian Open this year. 4 straight finals in grand slams is hardly a fluke.

Havok
05-04-2009, 08:24 PM
I'm glad he isn't winning everything in sight, but the poor guy struggles to win MM events and gets his ass handed to him every Masters event as well.:o

I enjoyed it at first, but it's become mainstream for Roger to suck and lose now that I don't care anymore because his presence is non-existent to me. I know for a large majority of the time, he won't get pasted the likes of Nadal, Djokovic and Murray and some young guns will probably beat him before the other 3 get their shot at him.

Roger's game, interviews as well as his personality turned sour once he was knock off as king of the ATP Tour.

Jōris
05-04-2009, 08:34 PM
In what sense ? In the sense that the statue which had been erected of Saddam Hussein was toppled by the vulgar, plebeian masses ?

That's one way of interpreting my post.

prima donna
05-04-2009, 08:43 PM
That's one way of interpreting my post.
Another way being ? I fail to see the parallel between a ruthless dictator and a tennis player; one being guilty of murder and oppression, the other being guilty of winning tennis tournaments.

How are the two analogous ? I'd really like to know.

Jōris
05-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Another way being ? I fail to see the parallel between a ruthless dictator and a tennis player; one being guilty of murder and oppression, the other being guilty of winning tennis tournaments.

How are the two analogous ? I'd really like to know.

You're creepy.

recessional
05-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Ever since I started following tennis, back in 2001ish... Federer has pretty much dominated 80% of the time I've been following. So it feels so good inside to see him failing and sucking finally. I enjoy every second of it. I feel so evil because I REALLY enjoy watching him lose now. Like a unhealthy, bitter enjoyment.

Sounds like you're relieved to finally get that off your chest because you haven't been able to for years. Like a confession almost. :lol:

As for the actual question... I don't enjoy it. At all. I ♥ heart him :awww:, so it's painful. But I'd rather watch him play and lose than retire.

prima donna
05-04-2009, 08:51 PM
You're creepy.
You're brilliant.

Commander Data
05-04-2009, 08:52 PM
In what sense ? In the sense that the statue which had been erected of Saddam Hussein was toppled by the vulgar, plebeian masses ?

:haha:


Thats was a good one!

pogotheorist
05-04-2009, 09:25 PM
Actually a Chinese-American soldier from Brooklyn climbed the statue to tie a rope around its neck and an American vehicle pulled it over. Widely remarked as an ironic ersatz liberation image at the time.

Avon
05-04-2009, 09:30 PM
“Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I’ll sock you in your goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”
prima donna
What’s all this homophobic stuff about? I think you are fooling no one-I bet you’ve been on the wrong end of a bell end more than once. Are you not the one used to getting plaster in your face
:couple:

StanisKing
05-04-2009, 09:34 PM
Well,

It may be demise, but still I believe that he is capable of few GS titles.

So, I dont really think iti is demise.
He is much more interested in GS's than any other tournament.

Jōris
05-04-2009, 09:38 PM
Actually a Chinese-American soldier from Brooklyn climbed the statue to tie a rope around its neck and an American vehicle pulled it over. Widely remarked as an ironic ersatz liberation image at the time.

No there were Iraqis involved with the toppling who jumped and cheered on it afterwards.

FedFan_2007
05-04-2009, 09:51 PM
It seems now that Roger isn't winning big titles any more he's not worth following for the bandwagon types who only care about the current dominant champ.

Jōris
05-04-2009, 09:56 PM
It seems now that Roger isn't winning big titles any more he's not worth following for the bandwagon types who only care about the current dominant champ.

I didn't think you were capable of irony. I'm floored.

FedFan_2007
05-04-2009, 10:01 PM
I didn't think you were capable of irony. I'm floored.

BS. I'm talking about Roger all the time, despite the fact that he's not even made a Masters final in 8 events.

dusk
05-04-2009, 10:03 PM
Federer's demise is like when Iraqis toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein, except Saddam was not as arrogant as Fed and probably had a better backhand.

:haha:

Jōris
05-04-2009, 10:09 PM
BS. I'm talking about Roger all the time, despite the fact that he's not even made a Masters final in 8 events.

Perhaps you're the last one to find out that you're a fedal.

LinkMage
05-04-2009, 10:17 PM
I thought the bashing threads were not permitted anymore? :confused:

Maybe I should go start the Piggy Roasting Part 2.

Sunset of Age
05-04-2009, 10:20 PM
Perhaps you're the last one to find out that you're a fedal.

That's an insult to fedal fans.
He's nothing more than a bandwagonning troll, or a trolling bandwagonner.

pogotheorist
05-04-2009, 10:39 PM
I thought the bashing threads were not permitted anymore? :confused:

Maybe I should go start the Piggy Roasting Part 2.
It's not a bashing thread - it's a thread of melancholy rumination on the impulse to bash. Like when mainstream media report salacious rumour by lamenting tabloid obsession with it. So you could start a "Why Do Fans Yearn to Piggy-Roast?" thread under the new rules. This can continue until the mods recognize the real principle, and prohibit all threads which provoke significant interest.

fast_clay
05-04-2009, 10:50 PM
Yes but he was boring, Federer is never boring and english is his third language, he's fluid in english; he's more witty and more honest, sometimes brutally honest. He has more guts for sure, because his records are more impressive than Sampras and he knows it.
Rafa is very boring in press conference, recently, he couldn't even say what was his favorite movie, so it doesn't look like the new n°1 is a bright guy like Roger.

wut...? the only guts fed has been showin' lately has been hangin' outta that skin tight country club polo...

safinalium
05-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Only narrow-minded people who don't appreciate tennis as a game (imo a lot of the posters here) could enjoy Roger's demise. I respect both Roger and Rafa - I like Nadal a bit more though - but I enjoyed their rivalry and I could value what it brought to tennis.
Domination is never more interesting than competition and intrigue :o

star
05-04-2009, 11:08 PM
I used to think it was repulsive when people enjoyed watching a greate athelete fall from the heavens and struggle but now I realize that its almost a fundamental part of sport. I'm sure a lot of people are enjoying Federer fall apart but thats just the nature of the game. It happens all the time to everyone. Maybe some boxers retire before they experience it. There have been some tennis players who dont want to ride the storm. Then theres a handful of quarterbacks. But any great athelete who has a true love for the sport and has enough in his tank to persevere through thick and thin will experience it. Recently Michael Jordan comes to mind, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaq, Greg Maddux, Brett Favre, and even Andre Agassi. Some guys just don't have the same, passion drive to stick with it forever. They aren't obsessed with their sport. Something tells me though that Roger will be around for a while because I don't think Roger knows anything but tennis. Its going to be a while before he hangs it up and probably a while before he drops out of the top 10. But who knows, his fall has been at a meteroic pace. At this rate next year he could be struggling to win matches if this trend continues. We'll see.

Interesting post. Any athlete who reaches the top also experience the decline. I read a book recently by a ballet dancer whose teacher taught him that his career was like eating a mango. All the parts of the mango -- although different -- are there to be enjoyed. The time of apprenticeship and learning, the time of mastery, and the time of decline in power. At the end of the book he says that he savored every part of the mango even when he only played the roles of the old men. So, this is true in athletics as well. I think Billie Jean King said something like by the time she really understood tennis completely, she didn't have the ability to execute her knowledge on the court. I always thought that was poignant and sweet. She's a woman who definitely savored her mango.

cobalt60
05-04-2009, 11:21 PM
Interesting post. Any athlete who reaches the top also experience the decline. I read a book recently by a ballet dancer whose teacher taught him that his career was like eating a mango. All the parts of the mango -- although different -- are there to be enjoyed. The time of apprenticeship and learning, the time of mastery, and the time of decline in power. At the end of the book he says that he savored every part of the mango even when he only played the roles of the old men. So, this is true in athletics as well. I think Billie Jean King said something like by the time she really understood tennis completely, she didn't have the ability to execute her knowledge on the court. I always thought that was poignant and sweet. She's a woman who definitely savored her mango.

I would like to read the ballet book; title please and thanks :)

andreevforehand
05-04-2009, 11:24 PM
Used to what? To see an arrogant former champion who cannot realise he's not the best anymore?? I was watching tennis before, and haven't seen one like Rog. They all admitted and gave credit to their opponents when the credit was due, yet not Roger??!

Rog didn't shake umpire's hand after his two losses this year?!! Once after he lost to Murray in Dubai, and the second after he was devastated by Djoker in Miami?! He also humiliated those poor little ball boys at the side line by throwing the empty water bottles everywhere. And that guy won 5 times fair play award?? Can't stop laughing.

And then after his loss to Wawrinka in this year R16 MC, he stated that 'it doesn't hurt when you lose to a good guy'??? So, what he meant was that Djoker and Rafa are bad guys??! Because he got hurt by losing to them. (Smashed his racket during the game vs Djoker, and was crying and weeping like a baby at the AO ceremony after his loss to Rafa!).

Ohhh, my. BUT, since these examples are the patterns, we'll be watching even more ridiculous behaviour of the "great champion" in the very near future.

Although I didn't notice all of these things, if true they are further evidence of my original thesis, which is that Federer is a little b*tch who just didn't have many occasions to act like a little b*tch until he started losing matches. I did notice him not shake the umpires hand after the racquet smashing match (and possibly another one in which he played badly), which was just pitiful, as if to imply that it was the umpire's fault that he sucks now. Great embassador to our sport indeed.

And his backhand does suck I don't care how many hands he uses. If that "sublime" backhand down the line passing shot to save match point at Wimbledon were a two-hander, it still would have been considered a nice shot, but wouldn't have been considered the embodiment of tennis perfection. I used to give Federer the benefit of the doubt more often, but his continued actions and the willing blindness of many MTF posters has hardened my views.

With that being said I'm not one who has totally discounted Federer as a player, it is definitely possible that he could win another GS if he figures out how to get his game (forehand) back on track, I just think he has a horrible attitude when he's not dominating the game. All that gentlemanly stuff is just a paper thin facade.

star
05-04-2009, 11:47 PM
I would like to read the ballet book; title please and thanks :)

Sent by rep!

miura
05-05-2009, 12:24 AM
If you're a narcissist, then sure.. :shrug:

cobalt60
05-05-2009, 12:55 AM
Sent by rep!

Thanks. Sounds fascinating and coming to a theatre sometime this year;)

w78dexon_y
05-05-2009, 01:02 AM
Federer played a great USOPEN last year.

This is what you called "great play":

R16 Andreev, Igor (RUS) #23 6-7(5) 7-6(5) 6-3 3-6 6-3
Q Muller, Gilles (LUX) #130 7-6(5 6-4 7-6(5)

A 5 set in R16 and Two tight tiebreakers against a Q from Luxemburg, ranked 130?!?
Do you understand much about tennis? Or you're just a fan?

marcRD
05-05-2009, 01:25 AM
This is what you called "great play":

R16 Andreev, Igor (RUS) #23 6-7(5) 7-6(5) 6-3 3-6 6-3
Q Muller, Gilles (LUX) #130 7-6(5 6-4 7-6(5)

A 5 set in R16 and Two tight tiebreakers against a Q from Luxemburg, ranked 130?!?
Do you understand much about tennis? Or you're just a fan?

You are just a troll, you think 4 straight slam finals is a fluke then go ahead and think so. Federer wont go anywhere in the fastcourt grand slams and great performances like Nadal in Australian open this year and Wimbledon last year will be required to take him out.

moon language
05-05-2009, 02:24 AM
If you're a narcissist, then sure.. :shrug:

Are you sure you understand the meaning of the word narcissist?

name_change
05-05-2009, 05:43 AM
Absolutely thrilled. I find his personality dull though his game isn't. And it's nice to see other players I like beating him.

w78dexon_y
05-05-2009, 06:16 AM
I dont get why everyone hates Federer...
(upper emphasyze by me)

You got it right! Eeveryone hates him! Can everyone be wrong?
Then you better join everyone.

w78dexon_y
05-05-2009, 06:31 AM
You are just a troll, you think 4 straight slam finals is a fluke then go ahead and think so.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

marvin0211
05-05-2009, 06:40 AM
If you're a narcissist, then sure.. :shrug:

If there is a closer meaning to it, should be sadist (narcissist are those people who love themselves).

Not the right term though coz sadist loves to inflict pain themselves

heya
05-05-2009, 07:07 AM
This is what you called "great play":

R16 Andreev, Igor (RUS) #23 6-7(5) 7-6(5) 6-3 3-6 6-3
Q Muller, Gilles (LUX) #130 7-6(5 6-4 7-6(5)

A 5 set in R16 and Two tight tiebreakers against a Q from Luxemburg, ranked 130?!?
Do you understand much about tennis? Or you're just a fan?:worship::D

heya
05-05-2009, 07:11 AM
Absolutely thrilled. I find his personality dull though his game isn't. And it's nice to see other players I like beating him.It doesn't look dull next to mental midgets like Safin and Blake, but it's dull when Federer needs unforced errors to win then he celebrates by crying and waving his arms like an important doctor who cured polio victims.

Black Adam
05-05-2009, 05:21 PM
If you observed the Fedy-tards' behaviour in the 2004-2007 years you would be enjoying every bit of it. I know I am.

rafa_maniac
05-05-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm not a fan of his, so I'm not really that interested in what happens to him, I rather see my favourites winning :shrug: I certainly didn't enjoy watching the emotional breakdown that occured at the Australian Open, rather I found it embarassing and off putting. I will say I enoy seeing some of his more invested fanatics both on this site and in general being humbled as of late though.

w78dexon_y
05-05-2009, 11:14 PM
Steiner in no longer #1!!

shotgun
05-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Fans like Orgasmatron, Miura and Habibko are a good reason to enjoy Federer's demise. ;)

Myrre
05-06-2009, 05:13 PM
Stinking thinking...

habibko
05-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Fans like Orgasmatron, Miura and Habibko are a good reason to enjoy Federer's demise. ;)

don't you dare including me and Miura with the likes of that :retard:

miura
05-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Fans like Orgasmatron, Miura and Habibko are a good reason to enjoy Federer's demise. ;)
:spit:

ORGASMATRON
05-07-2009, 01:58 AM
Fans like Orgasmatron, Miura and Habibko are a good reason to enjoy Federer's demise. ;)

As always nice to see im pissing you off.

don't you dare including me and Miura with the likes of that :retard:

As long as im im not included with you i dont care what im called :)

And now to the OP, ive really enjoyed watching you get owned on this thread. What a dumbass! :lol:

Rafa = Fed Killa
05-07-2009, 03:10 AM
If you observed the Fedy-tards' behaviour in the 2004-2007 years you would be enjoying every bit of it. I know I am.

It is beautiful to see isnt it.

FiBeR
05-07-2009, 01:11 PM
:p im happy, people just have to realize their players wont stay there forever..


time to let go people

its ok to like somebody but.. :p time for rafa to shine, and hopefully rafa's time will be done in the near future too... so watch all you can and then see what comes next :)

tennis is like life itself.. no one can live forever

prima donna
06-07-2009, 05:19 PM
You don't say.

Ozone
06-07-2009, 05:19 PM
Excuse me, I think you meant the title to be the demise of Rafa!!

Dirk
06-07-2009, 05:24 PM
You don't say.

You are going to bump up old threads all day huh? I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! :devil:

ClaudiuS
06-07-2009, 05:26 PM
It's happening too fast for my taste...

you act like as if federer's decline started today. it's already since over a year.

Yes, it started last year, but it's starting to vanish now.

:p im happy, people just have to realize their players wont stay there forever..


time to let go people

its ok to like somebody but.. :p time for rafa to shine, and hopefully rafa's time will be done in the near future too... so watch all you can and then see what comes next :)

tennis is like life itself.. no one can live forever

oh please. Shut up. :p

The "dropshot mug" owned your undimensional Del Potro once again.

marcRD
07-05-2009, 09:58 PM
I am enjoying the bashing he is recieving and the doubt that he will win another grand slam at all, mtf always lives in the present, memory is short and the idea that Federers current lack of confidence/confidence could change when grass season comes or when he is about to win a 6th straight USOPEN seems impossible for people to grasp. I would not be shocked to see him win both Wimbledon and USOPEN this year and I will enjoy reading MTF when that happens.

Now I am enjoying this thread. I mean cmon, the guy had been to 19 straight SFs and 14 out of the 15 last GS finals and people were talking about him never winning another grand slam.

Corey Feldman
07-05-2009, 09:58 PM
If you observed the Fedy-tards' behaviour in the 2004-2007 years you would be enjoying every bit of it. I know I am.then have another good cry in the basement tonight

:lol:

jasmin
07-05-2009, 10:01 PM
This is why I never go there. Karma always comes screaming back. Never enjoy the demise of anyone...not even people you just don't like. It will take care of itself.

bokehlicious
07-05-2009, 10:01 PM
Haha great bump :D

FedFan_2007
07-05-2009, 10:02 PM
marcRD - make that 21 semis and 16/17 finals.

scarecrows
07-05-2009, 10:08 PM
some gems in here, I thought of making a multiquote but cant be arsed