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When will Federer lose before the semis of a grand slam?

Xavier7
05-02-2009, 06:40 PM
When do you think Federer will lose before the semis of a grand slam again?
He doesn't have to face Murray, Djokovic, or Nadal before the semis so when will someone else put him out early?
Don't think it will happen this season.

Pfloyd
05-02-2009, 06:48 PM
Well a lot of people are claiming Federer's done, but he still has to reflect this by not getting to the final of consecutive Grand Slams, as he still has been quite impressive there, even though he has been beaten by Nadal (and Nadal only).

I seriously think Federer won't make the semis in this years French, but I think he still can do quite well in Wimbledon.

Certinfy
05-02-2009, 06:51 PM
I'll say French Open 2009, tho it's best of 5 sets, so i wouldn't be surprised to see Fed come back from 2 sets down a few times.

Xavier7
05-02-2009, 06:54 PM
I seriously think Federer won't make the semis in this years French,.

I doubt it.
Hes reached the semis in Rome and Monte Carlo comfortably enough.
Who could he lose to before the semis?

Nichele Hull
05-02-2009, 06:56 PM
The French Open.Hes going to lose to (the next Goat Dimitrov) and then retire from tennis

GuiroNl
05-02-2009, 06:57 PM
I doubt it.
Hes reached the semis in Rome and Monte Carlo comfortably enough.
Who could he lose to before the semis?

He did not make the semis of Monte Carlo. He lost to Wawrinka there.

pica_pica
05-02-2009, 06:59 PM
depends on draw...still I think he can keep making semis at least

Certinfy
05-02-2009, 06:59 PM
The French Open.Hes going to lose to (the next Goat Dimitrov) and then retire from tennis
Is Dimitrov even playing RG?

lazybear
05-02-2009, 06:59 PM
If the streak ends this year, it has to be the French Open, he has an excellent chance to reach the Wimby and US Open semifinals.

superslam77
05-02-2009, 07:00 PM
federer is not playing bad chokes/tank aside. who can take him out before SF? wawrinka,monfils? who else?

look at agassi and samprass history btw..they made disastrous GS exits but still had a few wins in them... so losing once before SF doesn't mean it's over. are you kidding me?

20 straight SF looks prettier than 19 SF, that's about it.

desigundah
05-02-2009, 07:35 PM
When do you think Federer will lose before the semis of a grand slam again?
He doesn't have to face Murray, Djokovic, or Nadal before the semis so when will someone else put him out early?
Don't think it will happen this season.

Chances are it only happens at RG.

finishingmove
05-02-2009, 07:38 PM
clash of the titans

wimbledon 4R
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oscar hernandez


it is only fitting...

Matt01
05-02-2009, 08:56 PM
He would have to lose to someone outside of the "Big Four", that's a tough task even for him :p
I also think that it's possible for him to lose before the semis at RG, but probably not at his home tournament in London.

Sunset of Age
05-02-2009, 08:58 PM
He would have to lose to someone outside of the "Big Four", that's a tough task even for him :p

Well he was clearly instructing the rest of the players how to get it done today. :smoke:

ImmzB
05-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Probaly Roland Garros...

Gasquet, Mathieu, Andreev, Berdych, Safin could beat him b4 the SF IMO

Commander Data
05-02-2009, 09:01 PM
I don't see that happening really. Who should do it? Maybe Davidenko if Fed has a bad day?

I duobt it best of 5 gives Fed lots of rrom to regroup when falling apart and he really fights in the Slams unlike today...

Actually I think he will lose against Nadal in the final again.

meihaditalab
05-02-2009, 09:10 PM
in RG...

habibko
05-02-2009, 10:21 PM
who knows, it will take something really special for that to happen that's for sure, I would love him to make it 20 at RG this year just because it's more pretty as someone else already pointed out.

also again as already pointed out, even if he somehow lost before the semis, it won't mean the end of the world nor his career, have everyone around here started watching tennis last year?

guptaji
05-02-2009, 10:35 PM
Federer is a pretty good player and he deserves his #2 ranking. Can a #2 player lose before SF? Sure, but unlikely.

The only real decline he is facing is all in his head. Over the years, he kept belittling other top players (Djoko, Murray and even Nadal to some extent) and that's why it is hard for him to come out of these defeats and still keep things in perspective. For example, when he loses to Djokovic, he probably thinks, "I am the GOAT -- how could I... lose to this low life piece of sh**? Obviously I have all the talent so there must be some extenuating circumstances." When Nadal loses to top guys, I bet his thoughts are something like, "What can I learn from this match so I can be a better player?"

marcRD
05-03-2009, 01:34 PM
Well a lot of people are claiming Federer's done, but he still has to reflect this by not getting to the final of consecutive Grand Slams, as he still has been quite impressive there, even though he has been beaten by Nadal (and Nadal only).

I seriously think Federer won't make the semis in this years French, but I think he still can do quite well in Wimbledon.

Quite well in Wimbledon? Who can beat Federer in bad form on grass except Nadal? Murray? Maybe, just maybe...

heartbroken
05-03-2009, 02:22 PM
The honest answer is that I don't know. It would be easy to look at recent results and say that the FO is a possible end point for the streak, but then, his slam results have been far better than the non-slam results for quite a while now. It's not hard for me to imagine him turning it up a notch at the FO and getting to the final four again. As long as the top 4 stays that way, all of those guys can avoid each other until the semis. So, a part of me doesn't think he's in that much more danger of losing early than he has been in previous years.

One thing that is probably disappearing fast is any aura of invincibility. Fed can still win matches if he's playing well, of course, but he is less likely to get as much real help from the intimidation factor. I think the next two months or so will tell us a great deal about how he might finish out his career. Strong showings at FO and WIM will probably convince me to largely ignore other results when predicting his success at the slams. Poor showings at both, and I would probably only expect perhaps one more slam win in his future. Like Sampras, I would expect him to continue to be dangerous for some time. Consistency might prevent him from winning as much, but there is always the chance to catch fire for two weeks, and rekindle the old magic. Write him off at your own peril...

MacTheKnife
05-03-2009, 02:31 PM
Well if it doesn't happen at RG, he'll probably finish this year with 22 straight semi's. Right now I am in the camp of those that still think he's going to be hard to take out in 5 setters. He continues to have these 15 to 30 minute lapses in concentration that can end best of 3 in a hurry. Best of 5, well I guess we'll find out soon.

andylovesaustin
05-03-2009, 02:44 PM
By his recent interviews, I think Roger is putting a lot of pressure on himself with the FO.

It might work because a lot of players are going to be going after him, I would think. And sometimes, they shoot themselves in the foot.

However, I think one of Roger's main troubles at the AO (outside of Rafa just rising to the occasion) is that he put so much pressure on himself to win there. I have this feeling the same might be true at the French. I mean, Roger might be looking at it that this is going to be his last competitive shot at the French since he's married now.. with fatherhood on the way.

I dunno. I just think it's a very precarious situation for Roger. Then again, other players might not have enough talent to beat him. Roger has gotten by on his talent, I think. For me, I think his "mental toughness" is just now being challenged because other players are stepping-up.

We shall see.

star
05-03-2009, 02:57 PM
Well if it doesn't happen at RG, he'll probably finish this year with 22 straight semi's. Right now I am in the camp of those that still think he's going to be hard to take out in 5 setters. He continues to have these 15 to 30 minute lapses in concentration that can end best of 3 in a hurry. Best of 5, well I guess we'll find out soon.


Yup. Me too. I think that Federer now will beat players outside the top four (three really since he's one of the top) fairly easily and then struggle against them -- winning and losing some but maybe losing more.

So, it will be interesting to see whether as he says that he's not getting to the finals on purpose.