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Who can stop Rafa?

Halba
04-27-2009, 11:24 AM
Are we witnessing the best tennis season ever by an individual(rafa) or will he burn out after the french open with non stop play.

Lets see. we could be witnessing the best season ever by a pro.

Who can stop him?

The contenders

1. Andy murray -if there is someone to figure out an opponent it is murray. He has figured out both federer and djokovic and how to play them. He has figured out nadal on faster courts(but when nadal isn't playing well enough). He has not figured out nadal when the surface speed slows slightly. He tried different tactics in Monte carlo(high moonballs) which worked to a degree. Blitz serving, and hammering his groundstrokes also helped. Probably the best chance to stop a tired nadal(but after the clay season). Last beat rafa in Rotterdam.

Nadal's way of countering the murray threat is to play aggressive and punish the forehand of murray.

2. Djokovic - winning 2nd set in MC gives him some confidence. But he has zero chance of doing it on clay with a 6-1 blowout deciding set suggesting his fitness hasnt improved. He has a chance at queens though, on a quicker surface. Hasn't beaten rafa since Cincinatti.

3. Federer - the least chance of the top 3 as he is very poor form. His backhand would be ruthlessly exposed by Nadal, but he can come from nowhere and be dangerous at Wimbledon especially if his serve and forehand catch some heat, and if nadal's level drops off. If he drops some ranking, could face rafa in semis of the big W depending on draw which could be dangerous for him. Hasn't beaten rafa since 2007 masters!

4. Others - Tsonga, Verdasco, Ferrer, Del Potro. We know del potro stopped an out of sorts nadal in miami.Hardcourts seem to be the place where Rafa can lose to anybody. Verdasco's form has dropped since AO level. Tsonga's gone completely. Ferrer's level has picked up but he is no match for rafa. Del potro's level has declined since Miami.

Looking objectively, Nadal looks lights ahead of the competition, and i think it could be the best season ever, he is taking the game to new heights. He is the fittest in the game and doesn't tire easily, though mentally he can go walkabout every now and then as he is human(e.g. against Del potro).

guptaji
04-27-2009, 11:31 AM
Hasn't this been posted a few times already? Moreover, the question should be posed in a rhetorical manner, as in, "Who can stop Rafa." without the question-mark.

Action Jackson
04-27-2009, 11:37 AM
This gets posted at least 3 times a week in different forms, but repackaging of the same shit with a different label.

finishingmove
04-27-2009, 11:42 AM
bud spencer

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oranges
04-27-2009, 11:50 AM
:zzz: We need the piggy roasting and other such threads back to life so that you can go and check in retrospect for answers to these threads

rafa_maniac
04-27-2009, 12:27 PM
This is a lovely jinx thread. :(

HuaTuo
04-28-2009, 05:13 AM
Fit Dave

Ackms421
04-28-2009, 05:33 AM
Personally, I do not believe anyone *will* stop him. I'm buying into the whole "he changed the grip on his forehand" talk. After watching the Barcelona final, it looks awfully flat to me (relatively of course). If he can keep it that flat, holding all other things equal, he will win The Grand Slam.

Personally, over five sets, and on fast hard courts, Murray is the only one who even has a prayer, and I believe an on-form Nadal beats an on-form Murray 10/10 times on any surface. IMO, the Murray-ettes did too successful a job of excusing away the 6-1 6-2 demolition that took place a couple months ago. And lest we forget Wimbledon 2008 as well (perhaps the best match of Nadal's 2008 season and quite a demolition).

Sure he's serving like crap now, but it's still clay season. He'll kick that up a notch come grass, and then :armed: it's on!

Jōris
04-28-2009, 05:52 AM
bud spencer

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With Terence Hill

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leng jai
04-28-2009, 05:58 AM
I can't comprehend how anyone could post this thread and think it was original and never done before.

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 06:14 AM
Good luck in beating Fed's 2006 season. 12 titles, 3GS, 1GS final, 1MC, 4MS, 2MS finals :lol:

guptaji
04-28-2009, 06:24 AM
Good luck in beating Fed's 2006 season. 12 titles, 3GS, 1GS final, 1MC, 4MS, 2MS finals :lol:

What does this have to do with what's being discussed here?

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 06:27 AM
What does this have to do with what's being discussed here?

Everything

rafa_maniac
04-28-2009, 06:33 AM
What does this have to do with what's being discussed here?

One of the poll options is "no- best season ever". I assume this is what he's getting at. Though Federer's 06 doesn't hold the title either imo, not over Laver's GS year.

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 06:36 AM
One of the poll options is "no- best season ever". I assume this is what he's getting at. Though Federer's 06 doesn't hold the title either imo, not over Laver's GS year.

You cant compare Laver's season to Feds, its too different. Tennis is 100x more competitive and professional these days.

rafa_maniac
04-28-2009, 06:39 AM
You cant compare Laver's season to Feds, its too different. Tennis is 100x more competitive and professional these days.

Then there is no "best season ever".

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 06:41 AM
Then there is no "best season ever".

There is a best season of the modern era.

rafa_maniac
04-28-2009, 06:47 AM
There is a best season of the modern era.

Possibly, if you could make an exact definition of "the modern era". But people would likely still have differing opinions on which season that was depending on what you put the most value on. :shrug:

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 06:51 AM
Possibly, if you could make an exact definition of "the modern era". But people would likely still have differing opinions on which season that was depending on what you put the most value on. :shrug:

Its not importnat when the modern era started. The point is to devide Federer and Laver into seperate eras. For me the modern era started when they hung up the wooden racquets.

vamosinator
04-28-2009, 07:13 AM
Good luck in beating Fed's 2006 season. 12 titles, 3GS, 1GS final, 1MC, 4MS, 2MS finals :lol:

4 slams beat 3, hence Federer's best year is very beatable :)

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 07:20 AM
4 slams beat 3, hence Federer's best year is very beatable :)

May i remind you Blanka stands on one, dont get ahead of yourself now ;)

kingfederer
04-28-2009, 07:31 AM
May i remind you Blanka stands on one, dont get ahead of yourself now ;)

roger this roger that, take ur pecker outta roger's bootyhole and put it to better use mate!

FedFan_2007
04-28-2009, 07:34 AM
Laver won the CYGS on 2 surfaces. Nowadays with the way the surfaces are configured it's really 4 different surfaces. So Roger won on 3 and made the final of the other won. I'd say that 2006 > 1969. But in the end 2009 > 2006.

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 07:35 AM
roger this roger that, take ur pecker outta roger's bootyhole and put it to better use mate!

No im just being a real fan who doesnt abandon my favorite player when he loses a few matches.

Now go suck up to Blanka.

kingfederer
04-28-2009, 07:38 AM
No im just being a real fan who doesnt abandon my favorite player when he loses a few matches.

Now go suck up to Blanka.

i dont suck upto anyody, i critisise nadal if he plays bad and praises him if he plays well. i dont say he will win everything unlike some rafa fans. im a realist!

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 07:43 AM
i dont suck upto anyody, i critisise nadal if he plays bad and praises him if he plays well. i dont say he will win everything unlike some rafa fans. im a retard!

Thats better.

Now go follow aussie rules :lol:

FedererSlam
04-28-2009, 08:15 AM
Personally, I do not believe anyone *will* stop him. I'm buying into the whole "he changed the grip on his forehand" talk. After watching the Barcelona final, it looks awfully flat to me (relatively of course). If he can keep it that flat, holding all other things equal, he will win The Grand Slam.

Personally, over five sets, and on fast hard courts, Murray is the only one who even has a prayer, and I believe an on-form Nadal beats an on-form Murray 10/10 times on any surface. IMO, the Murray-ettes did too successful a job of excusing away the 6-1 6-2 demolition that took place a couple months ago. And lest we forget Wimbledon 2008 as well (perhaps the best match of Nadal's 2008 season and quite a demolition).

Sure he's serving like crap now, but it's still clay season. He'll kick that up a notch come grass, and then :armed: it's on!

Nadal is on fire atm but lets not bandwagon him too much all things being normal he wins the grandslam i mean wtf....RG yes....Wimbledon it took the match of his life to winn that final and he only just did it with feds blowing chances....then the US where he has never performed well....

Ackms421
04-28-2009, 08:25 AM
Nadal is on fire atm but lets not bandwagon him too much all things being normal he wins the grandslam i mean wtf....RG yes....Wimbledon it took the match of his life to winn that final and he only just did it with feds blowing chances....then the US where he has never performed well....

Yeah, he played a great match in the final, but a gust of wind could've turned that match into a straight-set demolition; how quickly we forget the love-forty he had on Federer early in the third set. Nadal's better this year, Federer's worse, and Nadal only dropped one set before the final last year. Of course he's favored to win Wimbledon.

Yes, the USO is the test as has already been well-established. What I said is his forehand is looking to be pretty flat now. If he keeps it flat, he will have his chances. It's not as if he's not winning hard court tournaments as it is anyway though (Aussie, Indian Wells, Toronto, Olympics). :rolleyes:

Halba
04-28-2009, 08:29 AM
feddie's form's gone since AO
rafa's confidence is sky high
just put him on a tennis court and watch.

if he wins mc, barca, rome, madrid, FO,queens, wimbledon thats ridiculous tennis . lets hope he does as the first 5 tournaments he won't be contested on clay. only wimbledon he can get tested by murray or a resurgent federer

FedererSlam
04-28-2009, 08:30 AM
Yeah, he played a great match in the final, but a gust of wind could've turned that match into a straight-set demolition; how quickly we forget the love-forty he had on Federer early in the third set. Nadal's better this year, Federer's worse, and Nadal only dropped one set before the final last year. Of course he's favored to win Wimbledon.

Yes, the USO is the test as has already been well-established. What I said is his forehand is looking to be pretty flat now. If he keeps it flat, he will have his chances. It's not as if he's not winning hard court tournaments as it is anyway though (Aussie, Indian Wells, Toronto, Olympics). :rolleyes:

Favourite yes but outright...no. Federer is still his main competition on grass and Nadal has played alot recently given his success who knows what could happen given injuries etc. He is no way near favourite at the US...

I'm not denying the possibility of a Grandslam I'm just saying that its unlikely and you shouldn't assume it as a given just because he's flattened out his forehand a little in the last few clay matches.

kingfederer
04-28-2009, 08:38 AM
Thats better.

Now go follow aussie rules :lol:

actually i do follow many sports, aussies are great at many sports, its our culture that we are a very successful sporting nation and a country. we are winners, second place is not rewarded. thats why we always come top 5 in olympics even for a small population!

Ackms421
04-28-2009, 08:43 AM
Favourite yes but outright...no. Federer is still his main competition on grass and Nadal has played alot recently given his success who knows what could happen given injuries etc. He is no way near favourite at the US...

I'm not denying the possibility of a Grandslam I'm just saying that its unlikely and you shouldn't assume it as a given just because he's flattened out his forehand a little in the last few clay matches.

Maybe he is not the outright favorite to win the Grand Slam, but he would be the favorite for every tournament he enters from now until the year ends. Nadal has won so many big hard court titles lately, how would he not be the favorite for the USO?? Federer's Grand Slam chances were never as viable as Nadal's are right now because Nadal has beaten everyone on every surface. He is at least a 51/49 favorite against anyone on any surface. Federer could never say that. The Nadal/clay matzah ball was always hanging out there. Nadal, OTOH, won his last match against his closest rival on his weakest surface 6-1 6-2. Watch out is all I'm saying, because it could happen this year.

ORGASMATRON
04-28-2009, 08:49 AM
actually i do follow many sports, aussies are great at many sports, its our culture that we are a very successful sporting nation and a country. we are winners, second place is not rewarded. thats why we always come top 5 in olympics even for a small population!

Good for you kingfederer

born_on_clay
04-28-2009, 01:05 PM
Rafa is unstoppable now

miura
04-28-2009, 01:21 PM
William Renshaw will rise from the dead and sweep Nadal off the courts.

ossie
04-28-2009, 01:25 PM
chuck norris

lazybear
04-28-2009, 02:04 PM
Don't go too far just yet. I think Nadal played significantly better last year around the Garros, Wimbledon, and Olympics then he is playing now. He still gets the job done, but we're talking about the possibility of the Grand Slam, and i honestly don't think his current form will be enough. He can play much better than that. If he can turn up though... and wins the Garros, and Wimbledon... I don't think anybody can stop him at the USO. Then he'll do anything to win there (resting and practice for weeks if he needs to, skipping tournaments), and he won't crumble under the pressure, that's for sure. But right now, it's a very loooooooong shot.