Barcelona Final: Rafa Nadal def. Ferrer 6-2, 7-5 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Barcelona Final: Rafa Nadal def. Ferrer 6-2, 7-5

Pfloyd
04-26-2009, 03:58 PM
5 in a row!

Action Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Never in doubt at all, good training for Rafa.

Ferrer was brave and didn't bend over, but he was just outgunned.

Andi-M
04-26-2009, 04:00 PM
Vamos. Muy bueno Rafa

Pics gave a good account of himself too. :D

ClaudiuS
04-26-2009, 04:00 PM
:zzz: 2 setter final.

aussie_fan
04-26-2009, 04:01 PM
Ferrer put in a solid performance, that's all you can expect really.

Clay Death
04-26-2009, 04:01 PM
:zzz: 2 setter final.

could have been a little quicker. Clay Warrior decided to donate his first 2 service games in the 2nd set.

time to go conquer Rome.

SheepleBuster
04-26-2009, 04:02 PM
I am appalled by ATP for allowing the clay court season to continue. It's just not good for the rating. Let's just skip clay and give all the titles to Rafa. The way he is going he may want to enter the doubles tournament as well all by himself.

HeretiC
04-26-2009, 04:02 PM
I wish I can say it was a good effort from Ferrer in the first set but it wasn't. At least Pics made the most of it when Nadal's level dropped down in the middle of the second set. He even got only 2 points from winning a set. :shrug:

Surcouf
04-26-2009, 04:04 PM
Congrats for the 5th Barcelona Rafa. Very good victory against a very good clay courter. His science of the game has really no rival. He has not lost a set during all the tournament, unlike last year. I hope he will be at his top for Roma.

Good fight from Ferrer too. At least he tried.

kingfederer
04-26-2009, 04:05 PM
nadal's serve is an embarrassment and an insult to the sport, everytime he breaks he gets broken back easily. the french open is not in the bag by any means. he might struggle to win the french playin like this. sorry but its the reality.

kafemotor
04-26-2009, 04:05 PM
Ferrer fought very hard, but Nadal is just too strong. Just stay with Nadal is just a self destruction...

ImmzB
04-26-2009, 04:06 PM
Well done Rafa!!

Now ROME!

Merton
04-26-2009, 04:07 PM
Some excellent tennis from Rafa, at times dictating with the backhand and hitting forehand down the line winners. Nice effort from Pics, he even came close to winning the 2nd set.

CescAndyKimi
04-26-2009, 04:08 PM
Clay season is now so pointless.

fred perry
04-26-2009, 04:09 PM
there hasn't been anything of such a devastating force since the Mongols.

Surcouf
04-26-2009, 04:10 PM
nadal's serve is an embarrassment and an insult to the sport, everytime he breaks he gets broken back easily. the french open is not in the bag by any means. he might struggle to win the french playin like this. sorry but its the reality.

Nadal lost his serve 3 times during this tournaments I believe, 3 times today. This is true that his serve has not been good for some weeks now, but he is still dominating. He won Barcelona without dropping a set , beating two very good clay courters like Davydenko and Ferrer in two days.

His level will continue to improve to reach his peak for Roland Garros. At his average level, he is already winning everything. Wait to see his best tennis.

moon language
04-26-2009, 04:11 PM
I am appalled by ATP for allowing the clay court season to continue. It's just not good for the rating. Let's just skip clay and give all the titles to Rafa. The way he is going he may want to enter the doubles tournament as well all by himself.

:lol:

maki925
04-26-2009, 04:13 PM
Congrats to Rafa on his 35th title if I'm right.:)But the match was a bit lame I guess.:(

danielmom
04-26-2009, 04:14 PM
Ferrer did all he could but the result was never in doubt. I'm just glad he won as many games as he did. On to Rome for Nadal. He will not arrive in Rome in the same shape as last year so I have no doubt he will win there as well.

HarryMan
04-26-2009, 04:15 PM
This guy is going to break all records on clay. He is simply invincible and unplayable.

Ferrer fought very very hard in the second set, I guess thats all you can ask from his opponents.

rafa_maniac
04-26-2009, 04:16 PM
Really good quality and entertaining match this. :yeah: I always like seeing these two play each other clay because when in good form they give a perfect account of how tennis should be played on this surface. Ferrer fought hard, and played well enough in the 2nd to beat most anyone else today, but just not enough against Rafa who played imo his best stuff so far this clay season. His game is coming together nicely now, there really was no need to get worked up about his Monte Carlo form. Still some work to do though, too many minor mental lapses in the 2nd and his 1st serve percentage is the big achilles heel right now.
Otherwise, congrats on a 4th title already this year :worship:

HarryMan
04-26-2009, 04:17 PM
I am appalled by ATP for allowing the clay court season to continue. It's just not good for the rating. Let's just skip clay and give all the titles to Rafa. The way he is going he may want to enter the doubles tournament as well all by himself.

:lol::lol:

Johnny Groove
04-26-2009, 04:21 PM
Just unstoppable. And he's still improving. Nadal played much better in Barcelona than in any match in Monte Carlo. Bad news for the Rome field.

iSzavay.
04-26-2009, 04:27 PM
David :rolleyes:

Rafa wins EVERYTHING!!! Congrats to him though. Didn't even lose a set :help:

muchu
04-26-2009, 04:29 PM
nadal's serve is an embarrassment and an insult to the sport, everytime he breaks he gets broken back easily.

can't agree more. his serves, particularly in the second set were such disgrace. they were unbearable. Is it just me or he does choke a little bit more than usual in critical points? I guess he finally feels the pressure of being number one. I'd like to see how well he deals with this numero uno pressure. Congrats though for 5 in a row back to back. still, he could do a lot better with his poor serves.

Snoo Foo
04-26-2009, 04:42 PM
:sad: :confused:

shotgun
04-26-2009, 05:06 PM
Good stuff from the Hulk Hogan of tennis.

Foxy
04-26-2009, 05:34 PM
Just unstoppable. And he's still improving. Nadal played much better in Barcelona than in any match in Monte Carlo. Bad news for the Rome field.

Agreed. His worst match in Barca is still better than his best match in MC.:rocker2:

I am still not quite convinced Rome will be easy though. :shrug:

d3ck
04-26-2009, 05:40 PM
ok , signature updated,

Tnx Rafa

Bilbo
04-26-2009, 05:44 PM
everyone who's going to turn up in Rome is getting waxed by Rafa

easy title for him next Sunday

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 05:47 PM
nadal's serve is an embarrassment and an insult to the sport, everytime he breaks he gets broken back easily. the french open is not in the bag by any means. he might struggle to win the french playin like this. sorry but its the reality.

:secret: Nadal actually won't drop a set in the French Open :secret:

StanisKing
04-26-2009, 05:50 PM
Never in doubt.
Ferrer put up a good fight in the second set.

The problem for the Rafa's opponents is that he is winning easily all the matches, and he is not even in the form he had last year when he won RG.

When he will raise his game to that level ( I really don't have the doubts for that, he will do that just in time-if really needed) the results will be like 6:1, 6:2 ,3.
Anhilliation

BaselineSmash
04-26-2009, 06:10 PM
Cruise control from Nadal, but Ferrer should be congratulated for making it a competitive final.

The ATP field won't be harbouring any illusions about Nadal's beatability after this last fornight.

Bazooka
04-26-2009, 06:39 PM
Monster. Scary monster.

He has won every important title since january except Miami, and will win everything in sight until July.

Like commentators said yesterday, he looks as hungry as if he had never won a title.

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 06:39 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:


Bring back 64 player draws at AMS events and best of 5 finals. That way we could see Nadull losing.

aferlo
04-26-2009, 06:43 PM
Nadal played much better than in Montecarlo, and it was a very good match. But I agree with the ones concerned with his service and with some lack of concentration in certain moments. Probably he can win Rome without any problem, but things could be different in Madrid, due to the altitude (630m). But concerning with FO, I cannot see any player being able to play at the highest level for 5 sets, and that´s what you need to beat him in clay.
By the way, he has a good chance on winning the four Grand Salam tittles this year, but shouldn´t he rest a little in the clay season skipping some tournaments in order to arrive fresh to the USO?

moon language
04-26-2009, 06:53 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:


Bring back 64 player draws at AMS events and best of 5 finals. That way we could see Nadull losing.

Five set finals would make him losing even less likely.

Jillian
04-26-2009, 06:55 PM
Congratulations to Rafa on another tournament win and 5 in a row in Barcelona........

Ferrer played really well today and should be extremely proud of himself. If he had been playing any other player today he really would have won the title himself, it's just that Rafa is too strong on clay for anybody.

moon language
04-26-2009, 06:55 PM
By the way, he has a good chance on winning the four Grand Salam tittles this year, but shouldn´t he rest a little in the clay season skipping some tournaments in order to arrive fresh to the USO?

The clay season is where he earns points the easiest so I think it would be the last time to rest. Perhaps skip or strategically tank one of the NA hardcourt events before the US Open.

aferlo
04-26-2009, 07:11 PM
The clay season is where he earns points the easiest so I think it would be the last time to rest. Perhaps skip or strategically tank one of the NA hardcourt events before the US Open.
That´s true, but points in clay last longer and playing time is higher than in the rest of surfaces and because he arrives to all clay finals Nadal will be the one with more time in court. Probably he shouldn´t have played in Barcelona and he should avoid Rome or Madrid.

aferlo
04-26-2009, 07:15 PM
And the difference in points with Federer is so high that he can afford not to deffend points.

Beat
04-26-2009, 07:18 PM
it's so exciting, this clay season :woohoo: :tape:

ossie
04-26-2009, 07:41 PM
vamos rafa!

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 08:08 PM
Five set finals would make him losing even less likely.

I mean he would have had to play 6 matches in MC including a 5 set final, then 5 matches in Barcelona including a 5 set match, and then another 6 matches in Rome including a 5 set final. He would be much more tired so more chance of him not winning the 3 titles in a row.

nkhera1
04-26-2009, 08:08 PM
That´s true, but points in clay last longer and playing time is higher than in the rest of surfaces and because he arrives to all clay finals Nadal will be the one with more time in court. Probably he shouldn´t have played in Barcelona and he should avoid Rome or Madrid.

Biggest problem for him though is the pounding he takes on the body which he minimizes on clay. Besides all the players should have a much longer break after Wimbledon and before the US Open this year because there is no Olympics.

tangerine_dream
04-26-2009, 08:15 PM
Rafa :bigclap:

I never paid much attention to clay before until Nadal came along. I feel honored to be living in the Rafa Era. :p

Bilbo
04-26-2009, 08:18 PM
I never paid much attention to clay before until Nadal came along.

that's how it is when you only pay attention to american players and tournaments.

nkhera1
04-26-2009, 08:18 PM
Rafa :bigclap:

I never paid much attention to clay before until Nadal came along. I feel honored to be living in the Rafa Era. :p

Following Andy Roddick doesn't really give you much of an opportunity to. ;)

Johnny Groove
04-26-2009, 08:20 PM
I mean he would have had to play 6 matches in MC including a 5 set final, then 5 matches in Barcelona including a 5 set match, and then another 6 matches in Rome including a 5 set final. He would be much more tired so more chance of him not winning the 3 titles in a row.

Great, so Nadal would still win everything and you'd still complain like a little bitch about how long and boring the clay season is.

As if we need more of either.

tangerine_dream
04-26-2009, 08:21 PM
Following Andy Roddick doesn't really give you much of an opportunity to. ;)
I didn't really follow clay even when Chang, Agassi, and Courier won at RG. ;)

Aenea
04-26-2009, 08:27 PM
I mean he would have had to play 6 matches in MC including a 5 set final, then 5 matches in Barcelona including a 5 set match, and then another 6 matches in Rome including a 5 set final. He would be much more tired so more chance of him not winning the 3 titles in a row.

Barcelona isn't an AMS :p Players have difficulties taking 1 set from him what makes you think he'd be taken to a 5th set on clay.

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 08:29 PM
Great, so Nadal would still win everything and you'd still complain like a little bitch about how long and boring the clay season is.

As if we need more of either.


:confused:

I don't have a clue what your point is here.

AMS still lasted a week when they had 64 player draws and had best of 5 finals. They were much harder to win in those days, today they are just like MM events. Hate how they changed them to appease the whining pansies of this era.

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 08:32 PM
Barcelona isn't an AMS :p Players have difficulties taking 1 set from him what makes you think he'd be taken to a 5th set on clay.

Barcelona was one of the tournaments that had a best of 5 final before Mr. Disney decided to screw us of watching epic 5 sets matches outside of Slams.

I didn't say he would be taken to a 5th set. For example, today he would have played 3 sets instead of 2. ;)

Johnny Groove
04-26-2009, 08:34 PM
:confused:

I don't have a clue what your point is here.

AMS still lasted a week when they had 64 player draws and had best of 5 finals. They were much harder to win in those days, today they are just like MM events. Hate how they changed them to appease the whining pansies in this era.

Yeah, MM events with all the top players in them :lol:

Do you really think that just cause Nadal would have to play an extra 1h30 against some 1st round opponent and maybe another 30 mins in the final he'd be tired enough to appease your fantasy of him losing on clay?

They changed it to 56 to make sure that the top guys (that make the finals every week) got enough rest to put in a quality effort week in and week out and not have everyone pull out of Hamburg to the point where Tommy Robredo wins the title.

Aenea
04-26-2009, 08:34 PM
Barcelona was one of the tournaments that had a best of 5 final before Mr. Disney decided to screw us of watching epic 5 sets matches outside of Slams.

I didn't say he would be taken to a 5th set. For example, today he would have played 3 sets instead of 2. ;)

1 set more or less doesn't exactly matter :shrug: Playing 5 sets finals in MM events is poinless IMO.

tangerine_dream
04-26-2009, 08:39 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:


Bring back 64 player draws at AMS events and best of 5 finals. That way we could see Nadull losing.
I thought you Fedtards loved seeing the same guy win over and over again? :)

Pfloyd
04-26-2009, 08:42 PM
I mean he would have had to play 6 matches in MC including a 5 set final, then 5 matches in Barcelona including a 5 set match, and then another 6 matches in Rome including a 5 set final. He would be much more tired so more chance of him not winning the 3 titles in a row.

Por todo de lo que te quejas de Nadal, por lo menos ganas mucho v-cash. ;)

Hay un lado positivo en todo, solo hay que buscarlo.

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 08:52 PM
Yeah, MM events with all the top players in them :lol:

Do you really think that just cause Nadal would have to play an extra 1h30 against some 1st round opponent and maybe another 30 mins in the final he'd be tired enough to appease your fantasy of him losing on clay?

They changed it to 56 to make sure that the top guys (that make the finals every week) got enough rest to put in a quality effort week in and week out and not have everyone pull out of Hamburg to the point where Tommy Robredo wins the title.

Yes. I don't remember Nadull ever winning the 3 AMS on clay, Barcelona and RG the same year. Maybe I've missed it. :rolleyes:

What should have been done is separate the AMS by at least a week, not reduce the draws and take away the best of 5 finals. This year the 3 AMS on clay are separated by at least a week so they should have gone back to 64 player draws and best of 5 finals. If Nadull wants to play in a MM tournament like Barcelona it's his problem, nobody is forcing him to play there.

1 set more or less doesn't exactly matter :shrug: Playing 5 sets finals in MM events is poinless IMO.

I agree about the 5 set finals in MM tournaments, but not in AMS. But it does matter over 3 weeks. Nadull never won Barcelona, Rome and Hamburg when they were played in 3 consecutive weeks.

I thought you Fedtards loved seeing the same guy win over and over again? :)

We love seeing good tennis being played. If that kind of tennis wins titles I have no problem. ;)

cmurray
04-26-2009, 08:53 PM
I mean he would have had to play 6 matches in MC including a 5 set final, then 5 matches in Barcelona including a 5 set match, and then another 6 matches in Rome including a 5 set final. He would be much more tired so more chance of him not winning the 3 titles in a row.

They should make a rule that Rafa has to play right handed. :inlove: That would fix him. :mad:

cmurray
04-26-2009, 08:56 PM
We love seeing good tennis being played. If that kind of tennis wins titles I have no problem. ;)

You're in luck then! :bounce: Nobody plays better clay court tennis than Rafael Nadal. :worship::worship::worship:

Johnny Groove
04-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Yes. I don't remember Nadull ever winning the 3 AMS on clay, Barcelona and RG the same year. Maybe I've missed it. :rolleyes:

Not yet ;) I think it'll be this year, though.

What should have been done is separate the AMS by at least a week, not reduce the draws and take away the best of 5 finals. This year the 3 AMS on clay are separated by at least a week so they should have gone back to 64 player draws and best of 5 finals. If Nadull wants to play in a MM tournament like Barcelona it's his problem, nobody is forcing him to play there.

Yes, I too would love to see best of 5 finals and 64 draws back. More sets and matches for Nadal to win consecutively :shrug:

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 09:21 PM
Not yet ;) I think it'll be this year, though.

Your question: Do you really think that just cause Nadal would have to play an extra 1h30 against some 1st round opponent and maybe another 30 mins in the final he'd be tired enough to appease your fantasy of him losing on clay?

My answer: Yes. I don't remember Nadull ever winning the 3 AMS on clay, Barcelona and RG the same year. Maybe I've missed it. :rolleyes:


Yes, it'll be done this year. But my point is that he wasn't able to do it when he had to play one extra match and a best of 5 final in each AMS, so that proves it does change having to "play an extra 1h30 in a 1st round and another 30 mins in the final". ;)

Bazooka
04-26-2009, 09:42 PM
I mean he would have had to play 6 matches in MC including a 5 set final, then 5 matches in Barcelona including a 5 set match, and then another 6 matches in Rome including a 5 set final. He would be much more tired so more chance of him not winning the 3 titles in a row.

He can't lose. Doesn't know how to. I heard Nike is making for him a new T-shirt saying "somebody stop me!"

But indeed the key to defeat Nadal on clay would be changing some ATP rules. Maybe force him to play barefoot and right handed.

Johnny Groove
04-26-2009, 10:24 PM
Yes, it'll be done this year. But my point is that he wasn't able to do it when he had to play one extra match and a best of 5 final in each AMS, so that proves it does change having to "play an extra 1h30 in a 1st round and another 30 mins in the final". ;)

He was also 19 the last time there were 5 sets finals. My point is that THIS year, even with 64 and best of 5, he'd still dominate.

DhammaTiger
04-26-2009, 10:26 PM
FedererFanatics eat your heart out :nerner:
Rafa is the best, Rafa is number one, Rafa is the greatest :bigclap: Vamos Rafa!!!!! :woohoo: :banana:

Bazooka
04-26-2009, 10:50 PM
5 set finals and 64 players draw would be nice, with a proper schedule.

You can't expect a player to win a 4h final today and be ready for playing in another country tomorrow. Would be a disgrace and a cause of frequent injury... but I guess if you're a Nadal hater that's a low price to pay.

LinkMage
04-26-2009, 11:00 PM
5 set finals and 64 players draw would be nice, with a proper schedule.

You can't expect a player to win a 4h final today and be ready for playing in another country tomorrow. Would be a disgrace and a cause of frequent injury... but I guess if you're a Nadal hater that's a low price to pay.

We have a proper schedule this year with the 3 AMS on clay separated by a week in between.
Barcelona is not an AMS event. It's his choice to play there.

Bazooka
04-26-2009, 11:40 PM
We have a proper schedule this year with the 3 AMS on clay separated by a week in between.
Barcelona is not an AMS event. It's his choice to play there.

True, yet if you pick the 4 mandatory 500 you're very likely to end up with the same problem sooner or later.

christallh24
04-27-2009, 12:15 AM
:worship::bounce::bigclap::rocker2:

Nice going, sweetie! Wow! 2 tournaments in a row where he's won 5 consectutive times. Making history of his own. Has anyone else done that?

Clay Death
04-27-2009, 01:12 AM
He was also 19 the last time there were 5 sets finals. My point is that THIS year, even with 64 and best of 5, he'd still dominate.

i will have to agree. the lack of a best of 5 sets foremat at the masters events hurts a the clay warrior the most. it also has hurt the sport a great deal since it has taken away the very epic nature and epic potential of some of those finals.

this is not rocket science. just record in best of 5 sets matches. he is hurt the most on quicker surfaces since it takes him a little loner to find his range and rhythm.

best of 5 sets in the masters finals is simply a better test and a measure of the athlete.

federernadalfan
04-27-2009, 01:13 AM
history in the making...
such an expected win by rafa, he doesn't disappoint

leng jai
04-27-2009, 01:40 AM
I put $1000 on Pics to win. Shattered.

ORGASMATRON
04-27-2009, 01:41 AM
Utter dominance

Forehander
04-27-2009, 01:42 AM
It's very scary how his game still have much room for improvement.

rocketassist
04-27-2009, 01:43 AM
TMS are being called MM these days and that's because you can win five matches and be champion and not win a 5 set final.

5 set finals are what it's about, but De Villiers killed it. He even decided as a going away present to remove 5 set final from the TMC, yeh the finalists obviously have a tournament in Islamabad to go to on the Monday...:rolleyes:

Clay Death
04-27-2009, 02:03 AM
TMS are being called MM these days and that's because you can win five matches and be champion and not win a 5 set final.

5 set finals are what it's about, but De Villiers killed it. He even decided as a going away present to remove 5 set final from the TMC, yeh the finalists obviously have a tournament in Islamabad to go to on the Monday...:rolleyes:


De Villers the ultimate color blind, brain dead circus clown.

best of 5 sets finals at masters events also provide some excellent preparation for slams.

also as i said earlier, the true epic nature of those finals is lost forever.

current foremat robs and rapes the sport of any proper comparisons with all those great truly epic finals in the past.

FedFan_2007
04-27-2009, 02:05 AM
everyone who's going to turn up in Rome is getting waxed by Rafa

easy title for him next Sunday

3rd week in a row - def not going to be easy. In fact I see him losing this week.

Clay Death
04-27-2009, 02:18 AM
3rd week in a row - def not going to be easy. In fact I see him losing this week.


negative. if they dont get him early on, he is going to town.

check your sig old sport. he is coming to take Rome.

memo: die a 1000 deaths or just 1.

LinkMage
04-27-2009, 02:24 AM
TMS are being called MM these days and that's because you can win five matches and be champion and not win a 5 set final.

5 set finals are what it's about, but De Villiers killed it. He even decided as a going away present to remove 5 set final from the TMC, yeh the finalists obviously have a tournament in Islamabad to go to on the Monday...:rolleyes:

Great post. IMO AMS have lost some of their prestige by eliminating the best of 5 final and handing out byes to the top 8 players.

Before you had to win 6 matches in 7 days including a best of 5 final, so to me they were even more draining than GS where you have 1 day of rest in between every match. Even more considering you could get a top 20 from the 1st round. Now they are more like a MM tournament.

Clay Death
04-27-2009, 02:32 AM
Great post. IMO AMS have lost some of their prestige by eliminating the best of 5 final and handing out byes to the top 8 players.

Before you had to win 6 matches in 7 days including a best of 5 final, so to me they were even more draining than GS where you have 1 day of rest in between every match. Even more considering you could get a top 20 from the 1st round. Now they are more like a MM tournament.


There you have it. that is another knock on this current bullshit. now any clown has a shot at some momentary glory by hitting the top 10 or top 20.

vamosinator
04-27-2009, 03:10 AM
That´s true, but points in clay last longer and playing time is higher than in the rest of surfaces and because he arrives to all clay finals Nadal will be the one with more time in court. Probably he shouldn´t have played in Barcelona and he should avoid Rome or Madrid.

He makes the Finals of nearly all the hardcourt events too, he won the most points in the US Open Series last year. Plus even if he plays double the claycourt tennis compared to hardcourt it'll still be a lot easier on the body playing all them claycourt events, he gets foot blisters and eventually knee tendinitis from the hardcourt events. He's scheduled to play Toronto and Cincy after Wimbledon, so if he's struggling physically he can skip one of them, though I doubt he'll be struggling. Last year it was the Olympics that caused the biggest problem because they made them play a match everyday(plus doubles):o

rafa_maniac
04-27-2009, 04:31 AM
3rd week in a row - def not going to be easy. In fact I see him losing this week.

He spent barely six hours on court in his entire Barcelona defence (about as long as his Oz Open semifinal :lol:) so if anyone was ever in a good position to go back-to-back-to-back it's probably him. Still not going to be easy though imo.

W!MBLEDON
04-27-2009, 05:46 AM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:


Bring back 64 player draws at AMS events and best of 5 finals. That way we could see Nadull losing.

hamburg 06 was an abomination due to the five set finals and 64 player draw

i think i would really rather have my least-favourite player (nadal) win rather than robredo over stepanek in a final

azza
04-27-2009, 06:18 AM
i cant wait to FO can he really win another one

vamosinator
04-27-2009, 06:39 AM
yeah it'd be a good idea for him to win the FO i think he'll decide to win it.

Erica86
04-27-2009, 08:52 AM
i cant wait to FO can he really win another one

There is no doubt about that.

delpiero7
04-27-2009, 10:03 AM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:


Bring back 64 player draws at AMS events and best of 5 finals. That way we could see Nadull losing.

I reckon a 56 draw with best of 5 finals would be the best route to go. The only reason why I disagree with 64 draw is that there isn't really much beyond the top 4 players, so we could well end up with more Boredo vs Stepanek finals should the top players get burned out in B2B Masters events.

In a B2B situation, one days rest after potentially playing five 3-setters and an epic 5-set final (extreme situation I know) in 6 days is a bit of a joke. The top 8 should be allowed a bye into the second round in B2B weeks, especially as otherwise we'd end up with withdrawals and joke matches in the latter stages.

Although you make a point about the clay masters not being B2B this year, I still don't think they should be 64 draws, mainly because of Barcelona.

The ATP really have ballsed up the scheduling of the 500s. They say you have to play 4 of them a year compared to 2 250s even though there's way more 250s. Then, instead of spreading out the 500s so as to give players a greater choice of which ones they want to play, they schedule 2 500s in the same week 3 times in the calendar, thus effectively meaning that there is a choice of 8 500 events, and not the 11 that are on the calendar. Is it not common sense seeing as there are so few 500s, to scheduloe them in different weeks?