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What order (as in their age) will the top4 (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray) retire?

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 08:26 AM
What order (as in their age) will the top 4 (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray) retire?:angel:

So in this thread we speak of the age in which these 4 players retire, see poll options for examples if your confused:eek:

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 09:02 AM
So for example if you think Federer is going to retire at a younger age (let's say 30) than Djokovic (let's say 32) then you'd have Federer listed before Djokovic in your order:D

mashamaniac
04-26-2009, 09:56 AM
Really, What's the intention of this thread??

FlameOn
04-26-2009, 10:05 AM
Federer -> Nadal -> Djokovic -> Murray.

jenanun
04-26-2009, 10:11 AM
federer djokovic nadal murray

(Couldnt find this order in the options above...)

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 10:13 AM
federer djokovic nadal murray

(Couldnt find this order in the options above...)

If only the poll systematicalization allowed more than 10 options :sad:

guptaji
04-26-2009, 10:46 AM
Really, What's the intention of this thread??

Like every other thread in MTF, the intention is discussion. Hopefully you haven't written 6000+ posts with the assumption that you have made an actual difference to the real world of tennis.

Garson007
04-26-2009, 10:51 AM
Federer -> Nadal -> Djokovic -> Murray.
Same thoughts here, maybe just swap Federer and Nadal.

duong
04-26-2009, 10:55 AM
What order (as in their age) will the top 4 (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray) retire?:angel:

So in this thread we speak of the age in which these 4 players retire, see poll options for examples if your confused:eek:

You are really stubborn :haha:

Nadal is not yet 23, Djokovic and Murray not yet 22,

and you already want to plan their retirement ! :lol:

I guess you already have a death insurance even if I think you're very young :lol:

I think a more interesting question would rather be : who do you think will be number 1 in 2 or 3 years ? Nadal ? Murray ? Djokovic ? Del Potro ? other ?

finishingmove
04-26-2009, 10:59 AM
i don't know exactly.

but djokovic will retire first, for sure.

Garson007
04-26-2009, 11:01 AM
i don't know exactly.

but djokovic will retire first, for sure.
Right after being knocked out by Oscar in RG R1 2009.

Nathaliia
04-26-2009, 11:06 AM
This was made for trolling, but since I'm writing an article (at this moment) about falls of the big champions, maybe any of you would like to share something constructive either here or by a PM (I already got some cool stats from Voo de Mar about Borg and Nadal being the same age).

I remember the circumstances in which Sampras finished his career (IMO Fed is going exactly the same path), or Hingis, Henin, Graf or Seles but can't really say much about Borg (the weirdest career finishing I've ever seen - what happened to this guy?), Laver, Lendl or Edberg :shrug:

If it was in your opinion only physical fatigue and losing to the younger ones, or there were some stories behind it (that's why I consider for example Hingis as an interesting example).

At this moment I'm at the stage of doing the researches, any serious hint would help. Thanks in advance

:wavey:

finishingmove
04-26-2009, 11:10 AM
Right after being knocked out by Oscar in RG R1 2009.

surely you mean wimbledon..

duong
04-26-2009, 11:12 AM
This was made for trolling, but since I'm writing an article (at this moment) about falls of the big champions, maybe any of you would like to share something constructive either here or by a PM (I already got some cool stats from Voo de Mar about Borg and Nadal being the same age).

I remember the circumstances in which Sampras finished his career (IMO Fed is going exactly the same path), or Hingis, Henin, Graf or Seles but can't really say much about Borg (the weirdest career finishing I've ever seen - what happened to this guy?), Laver, Lendl or Edberg :shrug:

If it was in your opinion only physical fatigue and losing to the younger ones, or there were some stories behind it (that's why I consider for example Hingis as an interesting example).

At this moment I'm at the stage of doing the researches, any serious hint would help. Thanks in advance

:wavey:

at least you're right talking about "falling", which is very different from retiring, which probably youngsters here don't realize :rolleyes:

I think Wilander and McEnroe are very interesting examples, but I don't have any specific articles about them.

pica_pica
04-26-2009, 11:18 AM
Wrong permutation
4 persons vying for 4 spots in an order
There should be 4x3x2x1=24 choices

Nathaliia
04-26-2009, 11:22 AM
at least you're right talking about "falling", which is very different from retiring, which probably youngsters here don't realize :rolleyes:

I think Wilander and McEnroe are very interesting examples, but I don't have any specific articles about them.
I think Sampras retired in the perfect moment (although it would have been "more perfect" right after his won USO and not announced a few weeks later). He squeezed as much as he could. I doubt he'd be able to get anything more, and he left in fame like a big champion.

I'll try to dig something on Wilander and McEnroe, thanks :hatoff:

duong
04-26-2009, 11:51 AM
I think Sampras retired in the perfect moment (although it would have been "more perfect" right after his won USO and not announced a few weeks later). He squeezed as much as he could. I doubt he'd be able to get anything more, and he left in fame like a big champion.

I don't think anybody else than the person oneself can judge the "perfect moment".

There are many many different cases.

In tennis, Sampras did what was adequate with his own views (he was basically a winner more than a lover of the game), Lendl the same (also a winner), McEnroe the same (more a lover of the game) ...

Only players who have to stop because of injuries (Cash, Mecir) do not stop at the perfect moment.

As for "he left in fame like a big champion", this is only because people and especially sports'fans are unable to accept what is getting old, and also that winning is not everything. I think it's a pity and that learning what is getting old is crucially important, as we spend 3 quarters of our life getting old and declining.

asmazif
04-26-2009, 12:01 PM
Nadal - Federer - Murray - Djokovic

Certinfy
04-26-2009, 12:09 PM
Federer - Nadal - Djokovic - Murray

Jōris
04-26-2009, 12:15 PM
This was made for trolling, but since I'm writing an article (at this moment) about falls of the big champions, maybe any of you would like to share something constructive either here or by a PM (I already got some cool stats from Voo de Mar about Borg and Nadal being the same age). :wavey:

Marat Safin in fact retired a few years ago, but he continues to hang around for the easy poon even though many just feel sorry for him.

duong
04-26-2009, 12:17 PM
Marat Safin in fact retired a few years ago, but he continues to hang around for the easy poon

:yeah: :haha:

Sean
04-26-2009, 12:23 PM
Djokovic- Nadal- Federer- Murray.

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 12:26 PM
Wrong permutation
4 persons vying for 4 spots in an order
There should be 4x3x2x1=24 choices

This forum only allows 10 options in its polls.

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 12:32 PM
Wow 10 people chose the Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray.....and 4 people chose the Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, so 14 people think that Federer will retire at the youngest age. I agree Federer (and also Djokovic) will retire at a fairly young age, while Nadal and Murray will have long careers.

Yes I know players lose their ability to win tournaments before they retire, but the phrasing of this question "what order will the top4 retire" is not important, its more to do with who we think will run out of gas or suffer heavy injuries first, but the word retire is just simpler for this question. But really I don't think we'll see Federer and Nadal hang around after they stop winning, their legacy is too prestigious to hang around like a Michael Chang or a Hewitt.

Sean
04-26-2009, 12:37 PM
Wow 10 people chose the Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray.....and 4 people chose the Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, so 14 people think that Federer will retire at the youngest age. I agree Federer (and also Djokovic) will retire at a fairly young age, while Nadal and Murray will have long careers.

Djokovic will retire youngish cos I think he will want to become a celebrity in a few years.
Nadal's knees could shorten his career considerably otherwise he will play till he's 35.
Fed will retire if he dosent win a slam this year.
Murray?

Nathaliia
04-26-2009, 12:40 PM
Marat Safin in fact retired a few years ago, but he continues to hang around for the easy poon even though many just feel sorry for him.
Yeah but Safin isn't a great champion in my books :lol: just a talented lazy ballbasher.

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Safin is like a more polished version of Mark Philippoussis. Remember Mark Philippoussis beat Sampras in straight sets at the Australian Open, and he made a Wimbledon Final and a US Open Final, he probably would have won Wimbledon (maybe won it the year Hewitt won it) if he didn't have all those injuries.

Pfloyd
04-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Hah, my option would be:

Federer-Djokovic-Nadal-Murray

miura
04-26-2009, 12:48 PM
Pointless thread #31238219321

mr_burns
04-26-2009, 12:52 PM
it all depends on their health


I think Murray and NAdal are likely to quit early because of that...it's all guess

it is really unpredictable....

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 12:52 PM
Pointless thread #31238219321

I learnt something new thanks to this thread. Most people think Federer will retire the youngest. Whereas in all the other threads most people say Nadal will retire young(tho it looks like that was just to bash):drink:

Ivanatis
04-26-2009, 01:25 PM
sorry, can't find my crystal ball right now

maki925
04-26-2009, 05:54 PM
I'm with the 2nd option here

shotgun
04-26-2009, 06:09 PM
Irrelevant, as none of them will be a factor anymore in mens tennis by the time they retire.

janko05
09-04-2014, 12:46 PM
Djokovic:"Tennis is not my priority any more..."
Federer:"Tokyo Olympic doesn't seem far away at this point..."
Murray: His body is almost done.
Nadal: Same as for Murray plus 20% worse.

So the answer is not crystal clear as one would think...

Cloren
09-04-2014, 12:47 PM
Federer

Rychu
09-04-2014, 12:50 PM
Fed to retire after Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and to feast on another weak era :lol:

No, in all seriousness, Fed will retire in 2016.

Rychu
09-04-2014, 12:52 PM
I also expect Rafito to have bionic legs by 2017. Nobody will match him afterwards.

EddieNero
09-04-2014, 12:52 PM
Fed's love for the game and tremendous talent will keep him playing for a long time, until his late 30's.
The rest of them care only about money(Nadull), popularity(Djokovic) and mom's opinion(Murray).

Moulin Rouge
09-04-2014, 12:57 PM
Depends on USADA decision.

miura88
09-04-2014, 12:57 PM
Federer will retire in 2016
Rafa 2018
Djokovic and Murray 2020

Slade
09-04-2014, 01:07 PM
1. Federer
2. Dull
3. Murray
4. Djokovic

janko05
09-04-2014, 01:18 PM
What makes you guys so sure about Federer? He hasn't announced anything yet and by the way he's playing atm I can see him playing a few more years at least, if not a decade

Trollicki
09-04-2014, 01:22 PM
Depends how close to the top he is. If he stays in the top 10 or thereabouts - sure, he'll keep on playing. Still, he is a competitor and if he starts losing in early rounds he might decide tennis is not worth missing his children grow up.

JKT76
09-04-2014, 02:09 PM
Federer will retire when he is not able to compete with the young guns anymore. So i say 36-40yo. Nadal might actually be the first one to go.

underspin
09-04-2014, 02:13 PM
Federer barring injury for the others.

Fargif
09-04-2014, 03:11 PM
Murray seems to be the front runner in this poll. He hasnt won a tourney this year and probably wont.
If he doesnt reach some SF or F he will drop from top10 and make it even harder to get good draws.

Federer - seems to get another boost of energy by taking Edberg as coach and getting bigger racket. Seems fit and healthy and still has edge over most players around. Decline will come , but nobody and not even he does . So 2017 If he wins a major he will go on.

Rafa will try to get to 17 and as long as RG is a playground he will continue to play. He should skip grass in order so save he last few years. Rio 16 is a target and only a major injury would keep him away like London 12.

Nole So he won Wimby but looked terible Toronto and Cinci. has looked good so far but vs Anday he at times looked like USOPen13 Nole.
Will try and reach Sampras 14.

foxyknoxy
09-04-2014, 05:00 PM
Old man Fed. He's well past his expiration date.

jcempire
09-04-2014, 05:09 PM
Federer 2017
Nadal 2017
Andy 2017
Djoker 2018

WinterIsComing
09-04-2014, 05:17 PM
As much as some would like to see Father Time getting fooled, the answer is obvious here. Roger will be the first to retire, likely in 2016, maybe in 2017 if he's still in Top 10 at the beginning of the year. In that case Nadal might retire the same year, but it's far from a given.

masterclass
09-04-2014, 06:32 PM
I believe the poll was asking who who retire the earliest by age, not who would retire first.

If Federer retires in 2017 at 36 and Nadal in 2018 at 32 and Djokovic in 2020 at 33, the order would be Nadal, Djokovic, Federer.

As of now, I would just guess Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, but who knows? Anything can happen...

...they could all have a party and retire at the same time.

Rafa: Where's Andy?
Roger: Andy who?
No1e: :facepalm:
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/images/nadal26082013.jpg

Respectfully,
masterclass

Troll Hunter
09-04-2014, 06:50 PM
Rafa: Where's Andy?
Roger: Andy who?
No1e: :facepalm:
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/images/nadal26082013.jpg

Respectfully,
masterclass

Poor Andy Roddick :( never got the respect he deserved

heya
09-04-2014, 07:38 PM
The special dictionary for 99% of tennis fans:
Roddick's an athlete. A law abiding decent, intellectual, thoughtful humanitarian/non-misogynistic person/unannoying sycophant/a hypnotic michael jackson type of inspirational sociopath hero.
Fed says he's his man - a great person, fighter, quick athlete and fantastic server.
The trophy photo with roddick and fed together in a room with rod Laver, edberg, Connors, etc. was a wonder to behold. -vomits

Rios Drop Volley
09-04-2014, 07:52 PM
The special dictionary for 99% of tennis fans:
Roddick's an athlete. A law abiding decent, intellectual, thoughtful humanitarian/non-misogynistic person/unannoying sycophant/a hypnotic michael jackson type of inspirational sociopath hero.
Fed says he's his man - a great person, fighter, quick athlete and fantastic server.
The trophy photo with roddick and fed together in a room with rod Laver, edberg, Connors, etc. was a wonder to behold. -vomits

are you a traumatized former roddick fan?

Topspindoctor
09-04-2014, 07:53 PM
Crocodilovic will play until he's 80 years old :worship:

.....

.....

http://cdn.perfect-tennis.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/The-Magic-Egg.jpg

DDRickyDD
09-04-2014, 10:46 PM
1. Murray: 2016 (Retires after being beaten by Djokovic in the 2nd Round of Wimbledon 2016)
2. Nadal: 2016 (Retires after winning Silver in the Rio Olympics, with Djokovic winning the gold)
3. Federer: 2017 (Retires at the end of the year after poor performances, and failure to reach the World Tour Final's)
4. Djokovic: 2021 (Loses to Kyle Edmund in the 3rd Round of the US Open. Immediately retires.)

JediFed
09-04-2014, 11:10 PM
Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer.

Roamed
09-04-2014, 11:19 PM
I think Rafa and Fed make a pact and retire together in 2017. :angel:

In seriousness Fed said in an interview recently something about thinking about playing for four or five more years. Unlikely, each time he has a 2013-esque year his enthusiasm and confidence will plummet, but still… I don't think he'll think about retiring until he's well into his second consecutive bad year though.

Albatoss
09-04-2014, 11:42 PM
I assume Fed will retire first due to his age, Nadal and Murray could be next in either order due to their injury prone statuses. I see Novak being the last of the 4 to retire.

Djokerer
09-05-2014, 01:30 AM
2016 Fed
2017 Nadal
2018 Murray
2019 Novak

2020 all the tards of all profiles on this forum realise the loss tenis suffered by their retirement, and get a tattoo of big 4 on their buttocks :D

Tiebreak100
09-05-2014, 01:38 AM
I believe the poll was asking who who retire the earliest by age, not who would retire first.

If Federer retires in 2017 at 36 and Nadal in 2018 at 32 and Djokovic in 2020 at 33, the order would be Nadal, Djokovic, Federer.

As of now, I would just guess Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, but who knows? Anything can happen...

...they could all have a party and retire at the same time.

Rafa: Where's Andy?
Roger: Andy who?
No1e: :facepalm:
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/images/nadal26082013.jpg

Respectfully,
masterclass

It would appear we have a top three tard. Now that is taking gloryhunting to the next level.

Disgusting.

Disrespectfully,
A True Tennis Fan

emotion
09-05-2014, 03:14 AM
Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer

AncicCilic
09-05-2014, 10:42 AM
Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer

Exactly same thoughts.

Looner
09-05-2014, 12:12 PM
Does no one here understand English. It's about how they will be when they retire. Granted the title is not ideal but still...

Federer, of course, should walk this poll.

TheEndIsNear
09-05-2014, 03:23 PM
Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer

That sounds about right. Murray will be the youngest to retire, as he seems to be in the worst physical condition of the big 4. Nadal will want to play as long as possible but injuries will catch up to him. Djokovic will probably be fit but will eventually lose motivation to play once he starts to decline. Federer will play as long as he possibly can.

Loosie
09-05-2014, 03:31 PM
That sounds about right. Murray will be the youngest to retire, as he seems to be in the worst physical condition of the big 4. Nadal will want to play as long as possible but injuries will catch up to him. Djokovic will probably be fit but will eventually lose motivation to play once he starts to decline. Federer will play as long as he possibly can.

I think Nadal will retire younger than Murray. I voted Nadal -> Murray -> Federer -> Djokovic.

Longevity is hard to gauge though.

Jamvol
09-05-2014, 03:38 PM
Looks like Murray will probably retire first now. He's already past his physical peak and doesn't seem to have the same love of the game as the likes of Federer/Hewitt. I'm pretty sure he's said he will retire when he feels he is no longer a contender for slams which is arguably already the case. I guess he's hoping to turn things around in 2015, but if his slam results get worse I think a Wimbledon'16 retirement could be on the cards.

Apophis
09-05-2014, 03:48 PM
Murray, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer

Same here too.

As for the order in real time, I'd say:

2017 Murray (age 30)
2018 Federer & Nadal (age 37 and 32)
2019 -
2020 Djokovic (age 33)

TropicalSunset
09-05-2014, 03:56 PM
I bet Nadal will retire in two years.

underspin
09-05-2014, 04:07 PM
Does no one here understand English. It's about how they will be when they retire. Granted the title is not ideal but still...

Federer, of course, should walk this poll.

Mate it was merged with a thread titled "Fed,Rafa,Nole,Andy...who will retire first?" which is actually a different question and the one some of us had answered :shrug:

Loosie
09-05-2014, 04:08 PM
I think Nadal will retire after next year's French Open whether or not he wins his 10th.

MichaelKrep
09-05-2014, 04:17 PM
Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, Federer.

KingSlayer
09-05-2014, 04:19 PM
fraud will retire at the age of 50

FleetSeb
09-05-2014, 04:21 PM
Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, Federer

Whiznot
09-05-2014, 04:38 PM
What a poorly constructed poll. If a player is first listed does that mean he retires at the earliest age or the latest age? Also, the most likely outcome isn't even listed. I say Nadal retires youngest while Federer retires oldest. Murray retires younger than Djokovic.

Nadal - style of play and chronic injuries shorten career

Murray - dependence on defense and injuries

Djokovic - remains healthy but loses interest early

Federer - already older and tennis is his whole life

Rychu
09-05-2014, 04:43 PM
Federer - already older and tennis is his whole life

Did he leave his children in the orphanage?

TennisPhan1
09-05-2014, 11:56 PM
Obviously dull
his body is falling apart
I can see him playing for like 1 year 1,5 yrs max with injury breaks

Apophis
09-06-2014, 12:01 PM
What a poorly constructed poll. If a player is first listed does that mean he retires at the earliest age or the latest age? Also, the most likely outcome isn't even listed. I say Nadal retires youngest while Federer retires oldest. Murray retires younger than Djokovic.

Nadal - style of play and chronic injuries shorten career

Murray - dependence on defense and injuries

Djokovic - remains healthy but loses interest early

Federer - already older and tennis is his whole life

Or maybe the opposite. Missing part of the season now and then to recover from an injury gives him also extra rest and the opportunity to recover his whole body from minor ailments. Also, it keeps him fresher mentally.

TennisPhan1
09-06-2014, 01:13 PM
What a poorly constructed poll. If a player is first listed does that mean he retires at the earliest age or the latest age? Also, the most likely outcome isn't even listed. I say Nadal retires youngest while Federer retires oldest. Murray retires younger than Djokovic.

Nadal - style of play and chronic injuries shorten career

Murray - dependence on defense and injuries

Djokovic - remains healthy but loses interest early

Federer - already older and tennis is his whole life

tennis is his whole life?

#1 Federer 1 wife 4 kids
#2 Djokovic married, kid on the way
#3 Murray long-term gf
#4 dull fake relationship with a woman to hide the fact that he likes boys (which is fine, just stop hiding it)

GOATsol
09-06-2014, 03:44 PM
Dull (after losing the french open), federer (After winning the golden slam in 2016), djokovic, mugray