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What order (as in their age) will the top4 (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray) retire?

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 07:26 AM
What order (as in their age) will the top 4 (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray) retire?:angel:

So in this thread we speak of the age in which these 4 players retire, see poll options for examples if your confused:eek:

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 08:02 AM
So for example if you think Federer is going to retire at a younger age (let's say 30) than Djokovic (let's say 32) then you'd have Federer listed before Djokovic in your order:D

mashamaniac
04-26-2009, 08:56 AM
Really, What's the intention of this thread??

FlameOn
04-26-2009, 09:05 AM
Federer -> Nadal -> Djokovic -> Murray.

jenanun
04-26-2009, 09:11 AM
federer djokovic nadal murray

(Couldnt find this order in the options above...)

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 09:13 AM
federer djokovic nadal murray

(Couldnt find this order in the options above...)

If only the poll systematicalization allowed more than 10 options :sad:

guptaji
04-26-2009, 09:46 AM
Really, What's the intention of this thread??

Like every other thread in MTF, the intention is discussion. Hopefully you haven't written 6000+ posts with the assumption that you have made an actual difference to the real world of tennis.

Garson007
04-26-2009, 09:51 AM
Federer -> Nadal -> Djokovic -> Murray.
Same thoughts here, maybe just swap Federer and Nadal.

duong
04-26-2009, 09:55 AM
What order (as in their age) will the top 4 (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray) retire?:angel:

So in this thread we speak of the age in which these 4 players retire, see poll options for examples if your confused:eek:

You are really stubborn :haha:

Nadal is not yet 23, Djokovic and Murray not yet 22,

and you already want to plan their retirement ! :lol:

I guess you already have a death insurance even if I think you're very young :lol:

I think a more interesting question would rather be : who do you think will be number 1 in 2 or 3 years ? Nadal ? Murray ? Djokovic ? Del Potro ? other ?

finishingmove
04-26-2009, 09:59 AM
i don't know exactly.

but djokovic will retire first, for sure.

Garson007
04-26-2009, 10:01 AM
i don't know exactly.

but djokovic will retire first, for sure.
Right after being knocked out by Oscar in RG R1 2009.

Nathaliia
04-26-2009, 10:06 AM
This was made for trolling, but since I'm writing an article (at this moment) about falls of the big champions, maybe any of you would like to share something constructive either here or by a PM (I already got some cool stats from Voo de Mar about Borg and Nadal being the same age).

I remember the circumstances in which Sampras finished his career (IMO Fed is going exactly the same path), or Hingis, Henin, Graf or Seles but can't really say much about Borg (the weirdest career finishing I've ever seen - what happened to this guy?), Laver, Lendl or Edberg :shrug:

If it was in your opinion only physical fatigue and losing to the younger ones, or there were some stories behind it (that's why I consider for example Hingis as an interesting example).

At this moment I'm at the stage of doing the researches, any serious hint would help. Thanks in advance

:wavey:

finishingmove
04-26-2009, 10:10 AM
Right after being knocked out by Oscar in RG R1 2009.

surely you mean wimbledon..

duong
04-26-2009, 10:12 AM
This was made for trolling, but since I'm writing an article (at this moment) about falls of the big champions, maybe any of you would like to share something constructive either here or by a PM (I already got some cool stats from Voo de Mar about Borg and Nadal being the same age).

I remember the circumstances in which Sampras finished his career (IMO Fed is going exactly the same path), or Hingis, Henin, Graf or Seles but can't really say much about Borg (the weirdest career finishing I've ever seen - what happened to this guy?), Laver, Lendl or Edberg :shrug:

If it was in your opinion only physical fatigue and losing to the younger ones, or there were some stories behind it (that's why I consider for example Hingis as an interesting example).

At this moment I'm at the stage of doing the researches, any serious hint would help. Thanks in advance

:wavey:

at least you're right talking about "falling", which is very different from retiring, which probably youngsters here don't realize :rolleyes:

I think Wilander and McEnroe are very interesting examples, but I don't have any specific articles about them.

pica_pica
04-26-2009, 10:18 AM
Wrong permutation
4 persons vying for 4 spots in an order
There should be 4x3x2x1=24 choices

Nathaliia
04-26-2009, 10:22 AM
at least you're right talking about "falling", which is very different from retiring, which probably youngsters here don't realize :rolleyes:

I think Wilander and McEnroe are very interesting examples, but I don't have any specific articles about them.
I think Sampras retired in the perfect moment (although it would have been "more perfect" right after his won USO and not announced a few weeks later). He squeezed as much as he could. I doubt he'd be able to get anything more, and he left in fame like a big champion.

I'll try to dig something on Wilander and McEnroe, thanks :hatoff:

duong
04-26-2009, 10:51 AM
I think Sampras retired in the perfect moment (although it would have been "more perfect" right after his won USO and not announced a few weeks later). He squeezed as much as he could. I doubt he'd be able to get anything more, and he left in fame like a big champion.

I don't think anybody else than the person oneself can judge the "perfect moment".

There are many many different cases.

In tennis, Sampras did what was adequate with his own views (he was basically a winner more than a lover of the game), Lendl the same (also a winner), McEnroe the same (more a lover of the game) ...

Only players who have to stop because of injuries (Cash, Mecir) do not stop at the perfect moment.

As for "he left in fame like a big champion", this is only because people and especially sports'fans are unable to accept what is getting old, and also that winning is not everything. I think it's a pity and that learning what is getting old is crucially important, as we spend 3 quarters of our life getting old and declining.

asmazif
04-26-2009, 11:01 AM
Nadal - Federer - Murray - Djokovic

Certinfy
04-26-2009, 11:09 AM
Federer - Nadal - Djokovic - Murray

Jōris
04-26-2009, 11:15 AM
This was made for trolling, but since I'm writing an article (at this moment) about falls of the big champions, maybe any of you would like to share something constructive either here or by a PM (I already got some cool stats from Voo de Mar about Borg and Nadal being the same age). :wavey:

Marat Safin in fact retired a few years ago, but he continues to hang around for the easy poon even though many just feel sorry for him.

duong
04-26-2009, 11:17 AM
Marat Safin in fact retired a few years ago, but he continues to hang around for the easy poon

:yeah: :haha:

Sean
04-26-2009, 11:23 AM
Djokovic- Nadal- Federer- Murray.

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 11:26 AM
Wrong permutation
4 persons vying for 4 spots in an order
There should be 4x3x2x1=24 choices

This forum only allows 10 options in its polls.

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 11:32 AM
Wow 10 people chose the Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray.....and 4 people chose the Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, so 14 people think that Federer will retire at the youngest age. I agree Federer (and also Djokovic) will retire at a fairly young age, while Nadal and Murray will have long careers.

Yes I know players lose their ability to win tournaments before they retire, but the phrasing of this question "what order will the top4 retire" is not important, its more to do with who we think will run out of gas or suffer heavy injuries first, but the word retire is just simpler for this question. But really I don't think we'll see Federer and Nadal hang around after they stop winning, their legacy is too prestigious to hang around like a Michael Chang or a Hewitt.

Sean
04-26-2009, 11:37 AM
Wow 10 people chose the Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray.....and 4 people chose the Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, so 14 people think that Federer will retire at the youngest age. I agree Federer (and also Djokovic) will retire at a fairly young age, while Nadal and Murray will have long careers.

Djokovic will retire youngish cos I think he will want to become a celebrity in a few years.
Nadal's knees could shorten his career considerably otherwise he will play till he's 35.
Fed will retire if he dosent win a slam this year.
Murray?

Nathaliia
04-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Marat Safin in fact retired a few years ago, but he continues to hang around for the easy poon even though many just feel sorry for him.
Yeah but Safin isn't a great champion in my books :lol: just a talented lazy ballbasher.

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 11:45 AM
Safin is like a more polished version of Mark Philippoussis. Remember Mark Philippoussis beat Sampras in straight sets at the Australian Open, and he made a Wimbledon Final and a US Open Final, he probably would have won Wimbledon (maybe won it the year Hewitt won it) if he didn't have all those injuries.

Pfloyd
04-26-2009, 11:45 AM
Hah, my option would be:

Federer-Djokovic-Nadal-Murray

miura
04-26-2009, 11:48 AM
Pointless thread #31238219321

mr_burns
04-26-2009, 11:52 AM
it all depends on their health


I think Murray and NAdal are likely to quit early because of that...it's all guess

it is really unpredictable....

vamosinator
04-26-2009, 11:52 AM
Pointless thread #31238219321

I learnt something new thanks to this thread. Most people think Federer will retire the youngest. Whereas in all the other threads most people say Nadal will retire young(tho it looks like that was just to bash):drink:

Ivanatis
04-26-2009, 12:25 PM
sorry, can't find my crystal ball right now

maki925
04-26-2009, 04:54 PM
I'm with the 2nd option here

shotgun
04-26-2009, 05:09 PM
Irrelevant, as none of them will be a factor anymore in mens tennis by the time they retire.