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Pete's win that made you the happiest

RonE
08-14-2004, 10:03 PM
Which of Pete's victories made you the happiest and why?

For me it was his 6-4,6-3,4-6,7-5 victory over Andre Agassi in the USO final of 1995.

For starters, Andre had beaten Pete at the AO final that same year and at 2 other finals too (Key Biscayne and Montreal), so revenge was sweet.

Having won Wimbledon gave him a shot at regaining the #1 ranking Andre had taken away from him earlier in the year and that USO victory practically clinched it for him.

Andre was playing the best tennis of his life winning four tournaments on hard courts between Wimbledon and the U.S. Open- he was a totally undisputed giant on the cement. And so it was that Pete surpassed his enormity by taking back his US Open title. People back then were talking about how Pete was past his best and how Andre knocked him off his perch, it was just so sweet to see them choke on their words after that amazing final :devil:

One last point- does anyone remember the famous point that Pete won the first set with? An amazing 20+ stroke rally which ended with Pete hitting a backhand cross-court winner. I was on a high for several months after this final. Ok, time for me to shut up now. :tape:

Dirk
08-15-2004, 02:20 AM
Ah but you missed the best part Ron. IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR ANDRE!!! Pete banished Andre from the tour after that win. Andre and Brad couldn't live on the tour without the number one ranking. Andre lost interest in the sport and faded away for a few years as far as being a force to reckon with.

I can't believe so many people would rwrite off Pete back then. My god was he wasn't even 25 years old. How http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/ups/DeNiro/idiot.gifof them.

Fedex
08-15-2004, 05:35 AM
What a smilie, Dirk! :eek: :tape: I remember that particular point Ron, they just kept pounding and pounding stroke for stroke from the baseline, but the way the point ended was. :eek: :hearts: Great stuff. Poor Andre. :sad: Had it not been for that match, I gaurentee you he would of won more majors. But i also have firm believe his marriage with Brook Shields had ALOT to do with Andre dissapearing for a few years.

Lalitha
08-15-2004, 07:20 AM
I remember that point and then there was an Advertisement based on that as well. Both Pete and Andre keep hitting the balls again and again for days, weeks and so. Finally a ball boy would drop a ball that would roll on the court and chair umpire calls to replay the point. Nice ad it was.

Lalitha
08-15-2004, 07:23 AM
Oops, I forgot to say my happiest Pete win. Apart from his record 14th Grandslam, the 1999 Wimbly finals against Agassi is my favourite. Pete played flawless tennis all the way.

RonE
08-15-2004, 11:10 AM
That was a great match too Lalitha. As for the ad, I remember it was a hilarious ad, they kept on playing after they had grown long beards :lol:

Dirk, I think Andre's loss to Pete in that final deifnitely had some impact on his spiral down the rankings in the next couple of years, however I don't think that was the only reason- as Fedex mentioned his marriage to Brook and his other offcourt distractions meant that he was not 100% focused and devoted to tennis. But that was also the nature of the guy back then- his commitment was no where near as high as it has been in the last few years.

Dirk
08-15-2004, 07:55 PM
Yes but Ron what made Andre lose interest in the sport and displace it else where? Do you really think had Andre won that final and been number one that he would have cow toweled to Brooke and his sitcom? I think it would have been the other way around. At that point Gil was not apart of Andre's life but that match unearthed the deepest fear of Andre and it infected his life like a virus.

RonE
08-15-2004, 10:29 PM
Are you reffering to Gil Reyes? I distinctly remember seeing him in the stands along with Brad Gilbert during the Australian Open that year, so I would guess he was a part of his entourage during USO too.

RonE
08-15-2004, 10:32 PM
You are right in that had Andre won that match his decline would not have been as rapid as it was, though I think at some point he would have lost interest anyhow. Who knows, maybe if he had won that USO and kept his ranking in the top 3 consistently he might not have won the FO as part of his resurgency? Too many parameters to take into consideration.

Lalitha
08-16-2004, 06:36 AM
As RonE has said, too many parameters. Andre, at that time was known more for other things than his tennis. But on the other hand, somebody once said that since he has'nt played high level tennis for some time - which means not much of a physical burn out, happens to be the reason he is playing actively still today.

But I think Andre has a thing with marriages ;) .With Brooks, his career diminished. With Steffi, it has been good.

Lalitha
08-16-2004, 06:42 AM
That was a great match too Lalitha. As for the ad, I remember it was a hilarious ad, they kept on playing after they had grown long beards :lol:



Yes RonE, it was funny to see Pete with an artifical beard.:haha:

What was the ad for anyway? I think it was for 'NIKE', right??

Mimi
08-16-2004, 08:37 AM
for me, its the 02 us open final, winning it when everyone wrote him off, the victory was so sweet :worship: :worship:

Lee
08-16-2004, 09:23 PM
Wimbleton 2000 and then USO 2002

RonE
08-16-2004, 09:30 PM
Yes, Lalitha. I think it was Nike too but I'm not 100% sure. Makes sense, since it is the one product line that they were both sponsored by.

angiel
08-17-2004, 06:37 AM
My happiest Pete win apart from the US open 2002, was his record-breaking 2000 wimbledon, here he played through injuries when he could have give up, he almost fall behind two sets to one to Rafter, the added pressure with his parents there, and just how he handles himself during the during the whole two weeks, it was classic.

But do you know what is so great about Pete's career, he plays his whole life suffering from a form of anaemia known as thalassemia,

this condition is incurable and hampers athletic performances, indeed thalassemia is common among Mediterranean people, and both Mr and Mrs. Sampras senior are of Greek descent.

Thalassemia sufferers have a low count of haemoglobin, the substance that carries oxygen to the red blood cells.

angiel
08-17-2004, 06:55 AM
Here is a very interesting scenario about Pete and Andre, Pete was ask this question in 1999 by ACE tennis magazine.

Q. Five years ago some people wanted you to become more flamboyant like Agassi. But, instead, Agassi has become less flamboyant and more single-minded like you. Would you please comment on this interesting evolution?

A. Andre was more flamboyant in his earlier years. Now he's more into his tennis. Tennis has become more a priority. And he's definitely playing a lot better. Ever since he returned after the burn-out period [96-97] he's playing at a level that will keep him at the top of the game for many years. It's been a transformation for him. He's seen the way I do it, my focus. He's always strived to have that. But before, it wasn't alway the case.

This is what happen to Andre, during his years being like a yo-yo, anything you are going to do in life, you have to give it 100% and keep your eyes on what is more important and your priority is, else you are bound to fail.

Mimi
08-17-2004, 08:15 AM
yes angiel since he vomit against Alex C, people has queiried about he having this illness but he did not admit, i guess at that time, he feared that if he admit the same, then his opponents will think him as more weak and his confidence will decline, pete is really a great champion, he suprasses all hindrances to win :worship: :worship:

Mimi
08-17-2004, 08:17 AM
i am happy that pete had already won so many before 25, its hard for baldy to catch him even he plays till 37 :devil: :devil:

pete is so smart :worship: :worship:

angiel
08-19-2004, 05:29 AM
Thank you for that Mimi, of course Pete is very smart, we all knew that, he was voted one of the greatest athletes of the century, and I think one of the smartest as well.

Mimi here are some interesting facts about Pete:

All-time leader in grand slams (14)

World No.1: Record total of (286 weeks)

World No.1 at year ends - Record total of (6)

Voted as ATP tour player of the century

Voted the 20th century best tennis player by CNN/SI poll (1999)

Voted by current and past players and the media: Best male tennis player of the past 25 years (1997)

GQ magazine "man of the year 2000" - Individual athlete

Voted the greatest player of the 20th century by Tennis Magazine reader's poll (Dec 1999)

Voted the best tennis player and rank No.13 sportsman of the century by - Reuter's poll

The MARCA Legend Award (1998) in recognition of his spectacular achievements in tennis, by Spain largest newspaper

Has won 10 ESPY Awards - Male tennis player of the year - 1993-1999, 2001
Male tennis player of the decade 1990-2000
Record-breaking performance of the year - 2000
Best moment of the year - 2002 US open

And there are numerous other awards for his achievements in the sport.

Mimi
08-20-2004, 03:47 AM
hello angiel :D

you are most welcome :D. Wow, you really are Samprasís expert :worship: , i donít know so many things about him, I just know 3 things:

14 slams
longest week as no.1
6 consecutive year end as no.1

I am sure that his trophy cabinet is full of trophy, may be he even needs a separate room to store them! :angel: :p

angiel
08-20-2004, 05:07 AM
He has a big house, so finding lots of rooms shouldn't be a problem for him, I would love to see what his new house looks like, I will just have to relies on one of those fast reporters.

I am hardly an expert on him Mimi, but I love him a lot, so I try to get everything about him that I can put my hands on.

Mimi
08-20-2004, 07:25 AM
back from lunch, sharing a big bowl of beef noodles+sushi+tampula with my colleague :p

yes i know all the houses in western countries especially usa are very big, as i have seen in "Home Alone", wow, so big is the house, i only have 2 bed rooms and a very small living room, houses in HK are as small as an egg :(

i also would love to see his new houses, I also envy of Hingis very much coz she has a very beautiful house, also Swiss is such a beautiful country :eek: :wavey:

you are still a Pete's expert for me, thanks for all those photos and information :worship:



He has a big house, so finding lots of rooms shouldn't be a problem for him, I would love to see what his new house looks like, I will just have to relies on one of those fast reporters.

I am hardly an expert on him Mimi, but I love him a lot, so I try to get everything about him that I can put my hands on.

angiel
08-20-2004, 09:02 AM
Happy lunch Mimi, you are having lunch and I am going to bed soon, isn't life wonderful, I am glad that we are both alive and well, what a contrast it is beautiful Mimi.

The problem is Hong kong is a small place, with too much people living there, what is the population of HK? and what is the square miles? You have these small countries, with too large a population and very tiny houses.

Come live in the US.

Mimi
08-20-2004, 09:59 AM
enjoy your warm sweet bed,i love sleeping a lot :p

yes one in office slacking and posting and one at home, how wonderful and speical is this world and also is this magical computer, if not for this, how could i meet the lovely angiel from so far a place :wavey:

HK is extremely small but with almost 7 million persons :eek: :eek: , and it will grow more and more and exposed, because as i have said, even the 70 years old man want a second wife/wife from mainland china, they come to HK to live and create more people and kids :eek: , also many more immigrate to HK since hk returned to china :eek:

sorry i am very unknowledgeable, i don't know about the sq.m, but i know HK is as small as dot ;)

here in HK, all are tall buildings so as to ease the high population, many residentail buildings have 50 floors :eek: :eek:

Mimi
08-20-2004, 10:02 AM
i cannot live in us, i have no working visa ;). Its very difficult for us to get a visa, jsut for visiting usa, luckily i got a 10 years visiting visa which i got at 1996 , some of my friends do not get even a travelling visa to usa coz the usa ambassory fears that they gonna go to usa and get marry and hide there ;)

also if i would prefer, i would love to live in australia more coz my best friend Rebecca has immigrated there and also i have a counsin there, also its much to HK than usa, i always think if i have problem, then its more easy for me to fly back to hk from australia to usa ;)

angiel
08-21-2004, 08:06 AM
Maybe if you live abroad for awhile you would like it, the change would do you good, think about it. It dont have to be the US, the world is a big place.

Have you ever been outside of HK, and where to?

Mimi
08-23-2004, 04:46 AM
hello angiel :D

hey, if i have to live abroad for a while, then i need to quit my job, i cannot do so now coz i still have to pay my house mortgage and support my parents' livings ;)

may be after a few years, i save more money then i will stop working for a while and live in other countries for a while :)

i love travelling a lot, i almost went travelling once a year, coz in the past, my boss was nice to me and gave me many monies when i was on birthday/christmas so i used these monies to travel ;) now she does not give me any more now ;)

I have visited a lot of places but all just for a very brief time i.e. England/france/swiss/USA/Egypt/Greece/Japan/Thailand/Indonesia/Spain/Portugal/South Africa/Russia/Sweden/Italy/Holland/Germany/Hawaii/Australia/Turkey ......

but all just go for 2 to 3 days, i.e. for one european trip, i have visted 8 countries in one time, we hk people are very greedy so the tour companies usually organise a very hurray trip with lots of countries to visit in very short time :wavey:

I love Swiss and Austria the most :wavey:

Lalitha
08-23-2004, 10:08 AM
Girl, you had visited so many places and call yourself poor! :smash:

You are lucky mimi, you have got to see so many cultures and places.

Mimi
08-24-2004, 03:58 AM
hey Lalitha, have i told you that I have worked for 13 years, so you can see i am older than you and worked longer than you, so its normal that I save a little bit more monies than you ;)

but as i have said before, in the past, i don't need monies to travel coz the bad boss's monies which she gave me during christmas/new year/birthday are almost enough for paying the trip :wavey: , also joining tours here in HK I think is more cheap than other countries :wavey:

well, I am not very poor, but however not rich otherwise I don't need to work ;)

yes in this respect, i am lucky, i always love travelling and seeing beautiful sites :wavey:

Girl, you had visited so many places and call yourself poor! :smash:

You are lucky mimi, you have got to see so many cultures and places.

angiel
08-24-2004, 04:09 AM
Oh Mimi, you are much better off than we are, look how much countries you have visited, I would give high teeth just to do that.

You are more than lucky, what I wouldn't do to visit some of these places girl, count your blessing my dear, money doesn't make anyone rich. :rolleyes:

Mimi
08-24-2004, 04:16 AM
hey angiel, visiting many countries do not make me more special than you :wavey: , some of my friends have more monies than me but they have fear on flights and they don't like to travel. I have no fears on flight (just fear the uncomfortable seats/dry air on planes), also when i was a kid, i wished that i could travel around the world, now even though i can visit each country for a very limited time, i am still satisfied :wavey:

yes you are rich, money does not make anyone rich but without it, it also creates big problems, too much of it, it will corrupt your mind, so enough money is ok ;)

angiel
08-24-2004, 04:22 AM
Thank you Mimi, and amen to that wise advise, but having little money is okay too, trust me.

Do you know something guys, I am so glad I join this board, you have all become such good friends to me, thank you.

Mimi
08-24-2004, 04:42 AM
you are welcome :D well, having little money is also ok, but i think at least you should have enough money to have a little house so that you don't need to sleep at street and have enough food to eat :wavey:

i have joined this board at 02, just 2 months before pete won the 02 open, oh god, this board was only set up at July 02, i wish so much that it was created much earlier so that we pete fans can come and cheers for him but now he has retired :mad: but yes I am happy that I know you and all other nice pete fans :wavey: :worship:

coz you know I was very lonely unless you lovely people came, pete had very few supporters here, some of them even cheer against him, calling him oddie :mad: :mad:

Thank you Mimi, and amen to that wise advise, but having little money is okay too, trust me.

Do you know something guys, I am so glad I join this board, you have all become such good friends to me, thank you.

angiel
08-24-2004, 05:25 AM
Those wasn't is supporters in the first place, but we agree to disagree sometimes.

Do you know all the time that Pete was going through his rough times, I never doubted him, I know he could win again.

I think his marriage, couple with him breaking the slam record in the same year just snap his focus and energy for a while.

Well he prove us wrong, didn't he like he alway does. :angel: :wavey:

Mimi
08-24-2004, 05:31 AM
posters having arguments and disagreed with each other is ok,but have to be in a more gentle way ;), they should give the players respect, how come they call pete oddie, robot, arrogant which he is not and also cheers when he lost was a poor act :mad: :mad:

yes he won his first slam at us open and won his last match, also at us open, isn't it magical, the first and last slam, pete has really got some magic with him, also he always performed well in important matches unlike momo, thats make him so special and outstanding, win against all odds, the great pete :worship: :worship: :bigclap: :bigclap:

angiel
08-24-2004, 06:47 AM
Momo will win one of the time, she just need to hold her nerves together to do it, she also need a mental coach to help her.

Pete is what you call grace under pressure, he can win and they knew it. :) :cool: :angel:

Mimi
08-24-2004, 07:22 AM
thanks for your good words, but momo is already 25 but still no slam, she always become frozen under big matches, i.e. french open this year so i really don't know if she can win one slam :confused:

one silly question: can the tennis player eat one "calm down nerves" medicine before they play so that they can be more calm :confused: :confused:

angiel
08-24-2004, 08:39 AM
I dont think so, there are no cure for that sort of illness, he/she will just have to figure it out for themselves, what they need to do is stay calm and take deep breaths during stress, keep telling themselves that they can win.

There are coaches that do these sort of things, they need to get one.

Mimi
08-24-2004, 09:14 AM
thanks for your explanation, but i think these calm down medicines have some effects :secret: , i remember i was given an injection (with calm down substance) when i was about to do operation (to remove a "ball" in my body 6 years ago), at first i was so afraid coz someone was gonna to cut my body, but after that injection, i felt very calm and was not afraid anymore :)

then momo should hire a better coach, i think Paul A and Tim were very good coaches for Pete coz he is so calm :worship: :worship:

angiel
08-24-2004, 09:31 AM
If you give Momo that medicine, she will not be able to play, she would fall asleep on the court, bad idea.

The mind is a poweful thing, you know and all of to do with the mind sometimes.

A better coach could help a lot.

Mimi
08-24-2004, 09:51 AM
may be momo only needs to eat 1/4 of this medicine, hehe :devil: , then she will win and not fall asleep :woohoo:

this mind i also think is being born with you, but however with a better coach, you can improve, so may be momo can hire pete as coach, but it would cost her many $$$$$$$ :eek: :p

angiel
08-24-2004, 07:22 PM
I dont see Pete coaching anyone mimi, and if he is going to do so, he should start with somebody younger than Momo, she is too old now and set in her ways.

You can teach someone to win, but they have to figure it out for themself when playing, and tennis being a one on one sport, you alone will be on the court.

See how Justine beat her up at the olympics, that's my girl, she knows how to win and she does, she need to have a talk with Momo maybe.